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Donnie Darko

Aliedel
31-03-2004, 08:33
I urge everyone go out and buy this movie immediately the more i watch it the more i think it is the greatest movie ever. Its engaging storyline and astounding amounts of compexities draw you into a worl in which its very hard to escape until you understand and you never fully will. The story has many intrepretations but you will still be compelled to figure out the answer which may or may not exist. That is all.
Aliedel
31-03-2004, 08:43
"why are you wearing that stupid man suit?" *beats head against wall* ITS A VERY VERY MAD WORLD!
Gaspode the Wonder Dog
31-03-2004, 08:43
Hey i've never seen it. what's so great about it?
BackwoodsSquatches
31-03-2004, 08:43
Best movie ever?

Not even close.

A good movie and well acted?

Sure.
Liberal Monsters
31-03-2004, 08:44
I know you are going to think that I just crawled out from under a rock, but I have never heard of this movie....
Aliedel
31-03-2004, 08:45
Best movie ever?

Not even close.

A good movie and well acted?

Sure.

Curse you! Draw your foil! Perhaps you havent seen the deleted scenes and the pages from the philosophy of time travel......in which case you are slightly forgiven........
Aliedel
31-03-2004, 08:46
I know you are going to think that I just crawled out from under a rock, but I have never heard of this movie....


Blockbuster must still be open go rent it!
Tuesday Heights
31-03-2004, 08:48
My girlfriend is OBSESSED with that movie. It just confused the hell out of me.
Colodia
31-03-2004, 08:48
who wants to rent a movie at 11:45 pm?
Plastic Hams on Sticks
31-03-2004, 08:49
So many people hassled me to watch this movie, even though I owned it for a month before I put it on.
It was pure shite, pure, pure shite.
Mulholland Drive does it so much better.
Aliedel
31-03-2004, 08:50
My girlfriend is OBSESSED with that movie. It just confused the hell out of me.

If you realize its absolute brilliance obsession is the only option.......I had to watch it 3 times and examine all the special features and im still left with about 8 possibilites the secret is in the philosophy of time travel! I just need to get a bigger version
Detsl-stan
31-03-2004, 08:51
Yeah, critics love it. Haven't seen it yet but hopefully will.

Here's a good review for those interested (NB: some spoilers!):
http://dir.salon.com/ent/movies/review/2001/10/30/donnie_darko/index.html
Cheesey Wotsits
31-03-2004, 08:52
Donnie Darko is a great movie, ya crazy person! Its really screwed up and has so many hidden meanings... and a giant rabbit! What more could u want?!
Gaspode the Wonder Dog
31-03-2004, 08:54
well i've never seen it but Chris Moyles told me it was rubbish!
Aliedel
31-03-2004, 08:54
Yeah, critics love it. Haven't seen it yet but hopefully will.

Here's a good review for those interested (NB: some spoilers!):
http://dir.salon.com/ent/movies/review/2001/10/30/donnie_darko/index.html

I think its a slight over simplification and his suggesting that he has the answer (I only read the first part sorry) comes off as arrogant becuase i dont even think the writer is absolutely sure of whats happening
Tappee
31-03-2004, 08:55
It was a REALLY good movie but I would not say that it's the best movie ever.
Aliedel
31-03-2004, 08:58
It was a REALLY good movie but I would not say that it's the best movie ever.

as usual I would have to ask how far you went into the movie......how far did you make it in the philosophy of time travel book in the special features?
JLJoplin
31-03-2004, 08:59
28 days, 6 hours, 42 minutes, 12 seconds

Donnie Darko rocks, everybody should see it at least a dozen times before the world comes to an end. By the way, Tuesday is my girlfriend. :D
Aliedel
31-03-2004, 09:01
28 days, 6 hours, 42 minutes, 12 seconds

Donnie Darko rocks, everybody should see it at least a dozen times before the world comes to an end. By the way, Tuesday is my girlfriend. :D


He/she said they had a girlfriend so either youre lesbians (which is fine) or another complexity of the story arises
JLJoplin
31-03-2004, 09:01
http://www.donniedarko.com/

If you get stuck go to
http://www.ruinedeye.com/cd/index.htm

It is a trip.
Tappee
31-03-2004, 09:01
Donnie Darko has caused endless hours of debate between we and my friends about the philosophy of time travel.

As for the book in the special features I have a copy on my computer that I download from the movies web page. I've seen the movie about 10 times.
JLJoplin
31-03-2004, 09:02
He/she said they had a girlfriend so either youre lesbians (which is fine) or another complexity of the story arises

Your first guess was correct.
Aliedel
31-03-2004, 09:03
http://www.donniedarko.com/

If you get stuck go to
http://www.ruinedeye.com/cd/index.htm

It is a trip.


That website is great I thought it rivaled the movie in its complexities until I saw the DVD version
Aliedel
31-03-2004, 09:04
As for the book in the special features I have a copy on my computer that I download from the movies web page. I've seen the movie about 10 times.


There was a readable version on the website? I got all the way to its over now and I didnt see it perhaps i wasnt looking hard enough at the time
Tappee
31-03-2004, 09:05
As for the book in the special features I have a copy on my computer that I download from the movies web page. I've seen the movie about 10 times.


There was a readable version on the website? I got all the way to its over now and I didnt see it perhaps i wasnt looking hard enough at the time

I got it nearly a year ago, it may not be there anymore
Presgreif
31-03-2004, 09:06
I urge everyone go out and buy this movie immediately the more i watch it the more i think it is the greatest movie ever. Its engaging storyline and astounding amounts of compexities draw you into a worl in which its very hard to escape until you understand and you never fully will. The story has many intrepretations but you will still be compelled to figure out the answer which may or may not exist. That is all.

Really? I thought the movie sucked big time.
Aliedel
31-03-2004, 09:06
Well if anyone knows where i can get this it would be great because the version on the DVD is so small and its hard to make out some of the text
JLJoplin
31-03-2004, 09:10
What does everybody think really happened, or are you like me and have about a million possibilities?

At first, I thought Donnie was dreaming, but then I was like, woah, it really was supposed to happen, and then there were so many other things I thought could be true.
Aliedel
31-03-2004, 09:15
http://www.tangent-universe.org/dump/time_travel.html

Here is the link to a web version of the philosophy of time travel it is a major spoiler and still doesnt exactly tell the role of Frank as far as I see
31-03-2004, 09:20
I feel asleep while watching it.
Aliedel
31-03-2004, 09:22
:Spoiler:
















I think frank is one of the manipulated dead........he is setting a trap and is communicating through the 4th dimension
Aliedel
31-03-2004, 09:23
I feel asleep while watching it.


Thats ashame all the loose ends tie up in the end to form a confusing situation tat still has order
Twy-Sunrats
31-03-2004, 09:24
the bunny seens are the most disturbing scenes I've seen (except maybe the strange stop motion scenes in the likes of the ring(japanese version) and house on haunted hill (which was ruined by the last 20 minutes of cgi)).
Interesting in general with a very interesting ending depending on how you think about it... but open to many interpretations...

but I supppose not for everyone
31-03-2004, 09:27
I feel asleep while watching it.


Thats ashame all the loose ends tie up in the end to form a confusing situation tat still has order
I was awake again by then, sort of, watched the end with half an eye.
Wasn't it something like a prophetic dream? That engine falling through some kind of temporal rift from the future into the past or something?
Aliedel
31-03-2004, 09:31
I feel asleep while watching it.


Thats ashame all the loose ends tie up in the end to form a confusing situation tat still has order
I was awake again by then, sort of, watched the end with half an eye.
Wasn't it something like a prophetic dream? That engine falling through some kind of temporal rift from the future into the past or something?


The way i see it is the engine is the artifact and donnie not being home stopped it from returning to the primary universe so frank had to set the trap for donnie at the end so he would return the artifact and repair the rift in the 4th dimension.......its all in the philosophy of time travel link I provided the most confusing part is how donnies death lets the artifact be returned to the primary universe
31-03-2004, 09:33
I feel asleep while watching it.


Thats ashame all the loose ends tie up in the end to form a confusing situation tat still has order
I was awake again by then, sort of, watched the end with half an eye.
Wasn't it something like a prophetic dream? That engine falling through some kind of temporal rift from the future into the past or something?


The way i see it is the engine is the artifact and donnie not being home stopped it from returning to the primary universe so frank had to set the trap for donnie at the end so he would return the artifact and repair the rift in the 4th dimension.......its all in the philosophy of time travel link I provided the most confusing part is how donnies death lets the artifact be returned to the primary universe
:shock: Ooookayyy...this is getting to scientific for me. It starts reminding me of that one movie Pi. Also to scientific to be fully enjoyebal.
Plastic Hams on Sticks
31-03-2004, 09:37
What was scientific about π?
31-03-2004, 09:38
What was scientific about π?
What wasn't?
Aliedel
31-03-2004, 09:38
This said that the people around the living receiver (donnie) are irrational and will do anything to destroy donnie to save themelves from oblivion......this makes me a sad panda becasue I kind of liked his family and gretchen and according to this they were trying to ruin him....or maybe it only affected those two guys that ambushed them in the cellar....not sure
Plastic Hams on Sticks
31-03-2004, 09:40
What was scientific about π?
What wasn't?

The hat he didn't wear.
It's much easier to say what was, rather than what wasn't.
I'm not trying to be a smartarse here.
Raem
31-03-2004, 09:42
I wasn't impressed. It was an OK movie, but hardly the best. You could fly an engineless passenger plane through the plot holes of that movie.
Aliedel
31-03-2004, 09:43
I wasn't impressed. It was an OK movie, but hardly the best. You could fly an engineless passenger plane through the plot holes of that movie.


The thing is there arent holes if you use the proper logic.....which I believe is in the philosophy of time travel
Raem
31-03-2004, 09:46
The thing is there arent holes if you use the proper logic.....which I believe is in the philosophy of time travel

Uhm, no, they were still plot holes. I'm not just referring to the fubbed-up timeline.
Aliedel
31-03-2004, 09:47
The thing is there arent holes if you use the proper logic.....which I believe is in the philosophy of time travel

Uhm, no, they were still plot holes. I'm not just referring to the fubbed-up timeline.

And i ask you where? I dont see any you just have to look at the story the way it was intended.....though it is more entertaining to look at it in alternate ways
Utopio
31-03-2004, 10:03
:Spoiler:

I think that's what the official website implies. The manipulated dead hingy I mean
Nyborg
31-03-2004, 10:44
I'd rate it in the top 5 movies of all time. I friggin loved it. I need to buy that dvd.
Utopio
31-03-2004, 10:48
I wasn't impressed. It was an OK movie, but hardly the best. You could fly an engineless passenger plane through the plot holes of that movie.

Care to name some?
Raem
31-03-2004, 10:50
Pardon me while I go get the movie from a friend and take notes this time. I'll return later. :D
Utopio
31-03-2004, 10:51
Pardon me while I go get the movie from a friend and take notes this time. I'll return later. :D

If the plot-holes are so huge you'd remember them.
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 00:38
I'm gonna revive this thread....I feel it is my duty and i want to see if raem has found those holes yet.....and if you get the dvd make sure to check out the deleted extended scences there are about 20 and some help the story
Amerigo
01-04-2004, 01:34
Okay personally I liked Donnie Darko, but its definately not the best movie created...

First of all its not even that original as far as the plot goes... 12 Monkeys had already used the same basic idea of the whole time travel... prophetic dream/hallucination.

Although 12 Monkeys was more science fiction while Donnie Darko was less sci-fi...

It's still a good movie, but its not the best.

But thats just my opinion...
New Granada
01-04-2004, 01:39
Donnie Darko was alright, I think that Mulholland Drive was a masterpiece, especially in comparison.

You might or might not like donnie darko, but everyone really ought to see Mulholland Drive, its mind boggling tends to elicit interesting responses from people when they finish watching it.
Sumamba Buwhan
01-04-2004, 01:43
good movie but Ghost In The Shell is actually the best movie ever.

I watched Donnie Darko about three or four times, went thru all teh features and the Philosophy pages and the crazy ass website!

I never saw mulholland drive nor do I know a thing about it but now I gotta check it out
The Tortured Minds
01-04-2004, 02:33
I must say that this movie does kick some serious ass. Everyone should go see if you haven't already. And still, go see it again if you haven't already
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 05:03
Well I guess we just do not share the same views Mulholland Drive bored me to tears and I loved this......oh well live long and prosper.
01-04-2004, 05:05
it's ok. Grossly overrated, it's like the new official teenage angst/emo movie or something. Still, entertaining, pretty decent soundtrack, and some snappy dialogue.
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 05:20
it's ok. Grossly overrated, it's like the new official teenage angst/emo movie or something. Still, entertaining, pretty decent soundtrack, and some snappy dialogue.

Your average teenager/emo kid has not the time nor the brain power to begin to undferstand this movie.....I'm not saying that its rocket science i pretty much understand it and ive only been thinking hard about it for a day or so but most teenagers wouldn't take as much time as I have to understand it.....I think they just like frank anything hardass or weird they'll like (i.e. death metal rotten.com forcefully inserting rockets into animals anuses)
Amerigo
01-04-2004, 05:26
I think they just like frank anything hardass or weird they'll like (i.e. death metal rotten-com forcefully inserting rockets into animals anuses)

Wow... okay... I seriously doubt that the avergae teenager likes any of the above...

Metal is not a mainstream music genre anymore... modern death metal included...

An avergae teenager likes the neo-punk that exists today... (not punk at all just pretend punk) and emo (the name says it all... what kind of a genre could be labeled emo? I mean emotional? Music is supposed to be emotional)

Thirdly where the hell do you get that idea... animal anuses and rockets and avergae teenager do not go together....

Furthermore the average teenager can easily understand it... You don't really need to think about it too much... It's pretty straight forward when the end finally comes...
Anbar
01-04-2004, 05:28
Great movie - being well written, well acted, and having an engaging story, while this may not be the best movie ever, it ranks right up there.
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 05:30
I think they just like frank anything hardass or weird they'll like (i.e. death metal rotten-com forcefully inserting rockets into animals anuses)

Wow... okay... I seriously doubt that the avergae teenager likes any of the above...

Metal is not a mainstream music genre anymore... modern death metal included...

An avergae teenager likes the neo-punk that exists today... (not punk at all just pretend punk) and emo (the name says it all... what kind of a genre could be labeled emo? I mean emotional? Music is supposed to be emotional)

Thirdly where the hell do you get that idea... animal anuses and rockets and avergae teenager do not go together....

Furthermore the average teenager can easily understand it... You don't really need to think about it too much... It's pretty straight forward when the end finally comes...


Are you kidding me? First of all the entire movie is broken threads which finally tie together at the end maybe it makes sense until the end but there isnt anything really there its all setting you up for something and second of all I dont know about your town but in my hick town teenagers rockets and anuses go together far too often
01-04-2004, 05:32
It's really not that complex/original. THere's much more 'mind bending' movies out there, if that's what you're into.
Anbar
01-04-2004, 05:34
This said that the people around the living receiver (donnie) are irrational and will do anything to destroy donnie to save themelves from oblivion......this makes me a sad panda becasue I kind of liked his family and gretchen and according to this they were trying to ruin him....or maybe it only affected those two guys that ambushed them in the cellar....not sure

The drive to destroy Donnie may well have been unconscious. Have you ever seen cows start running, or a dog watching the horizon with his nose in the air, before a violent storm hits but while it's still perfectly clear? It's uncanny and unsettling sometimes...
Anbar
01-04-2004, 05:36
It's really not that complex/original. THere's much more 'mind bending' movies out there, if that's what you're into.

There is far more to it than just the time travel bit. The social commentary, both what is relevant only to the 80s and what remains true today, is also quite interesting.
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 05:36
It's really not that complex/original. THere's much more 'mind bending' movies out there, if that's what you're into.

It was more/compex original than any other movie i've ever seen and it doesnt even matter the thing is the way the story is its not super brainy yet its complex and hard to figure out its accessible but can also keep those who are interested in its concept coming back over and over again I hope they release a second one like the writer/director hinted at
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 05:40
in reply to Anbar:


Oh i assume it wasnt intentional it was the role they had to play and they most likely were not if full control of themselves the thing that confuses me is i never really see anyone try to destroy donnie besides those thugs and they're well....thugs and frank but frank is far more important than just some guy trying to destroy him
Anbar
01-04-2004, 06:01
in reply to Anbar:


Oh i assume it wasnt intentional it was the role they had to play and they most likely were not if full control of themselves the thing that confuses me is i never really see anyone try to destroy donnie besides those thugs and they're well....thugs and frank but frank is far more important than just some guy trying to destroy him

You don't?

Donnie's psychiatrist has prescribing placebos (see: deleted scene), despite the fact that he's having serious hallucinations and delusions. These symptoms are enough to diagnose him with schizophrenia, especially when combined with his social/academic dysfunctionality. This makes a prescription of a placebo seem utterly ludicrous. Meanwhile, his parents sit by all the while, doing nothing, allowing the psychiatrist to do all this, though their son is clearly getting worse.

All this is hard to separate from the social commentary woven throughout the film. It's hard to say what points to what, in that respect. What we do see is an increasingly "mad world," with everything spiraling out of control by the end of the movie. Is this the result of the time glitch causing time and space to come unravelled? I, for one, don't know because I haven't looked that far into the time travel plot point.

But I do know from the deleted scenes with Frank that Judeo-Christian beliefs throw a wrench into it along the way, as well...
Madesonia
01-04-2004, 06:04
I urge everyone go out and buy this movie immediately the more i watch it the more i think it is the greatest movie ever. Its engaging storyline and astounding amounts of compexities draw you into a worl in which its very hard to escape until you understand and you never fully will. The story has many intrepretations but you will still be compelled to figure out the answer which may or may not exist. That is all. It was poorly done.. and acting was sub-par.... you must be a teenage girl (or boy) who regards themself as Gothic/punk/emo because no one other than that in their right mind would like this movie
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 06:06
The reason that his psychatrist has been giving him placebos id because she knows nothing will work and at the end she starts to bleive him like the writer said in his commentary and the parents never knewabout thew placebos I dont think donnie was ever insane what he was seeing was real and he was chosen to return the artifact to the primary universe.....perhaps the psychatrist could also be like frank except she knows more than she tells donnie
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 06:08
I urge everyone go out and buy this movie immediately the more i watch it the more i think it is the greatest movie ever. Its engaging storyline and astounding amounts of compexities draw you into a worl in which its very hard to escape until you understand and you never fully will. The story has many intrepretations but you will still be compelled to figure out the answer which may or may not exist. That is all. It was poorly done.. and acting was sub-par.... you must be a teenage girl (or boy) who regards themself as Gothic/punk/emo because no one other than that in their right mind would like this movie

No I am not a teenager and no I am not emo/punk/goth I think it is you who is closed minded and let your blatant biases get in the way of enjoying this movie....if you went in with the attitude you have now of course you wouldnt enjoy it and I doubt you gave it any thought after it ended which truely enriches the experience
Rosarita
01-04-2004, 06:10
No I am not a teenager and no I am not emo/punk/goth I think it is you who is closed minded and let your blatant biases get in the way of enjoying this movie....if you went in with the attitude you have now of course you wouldnt enjoy it and I doubt you gave it any thought after it ended which truely enriches the experience
Indeed. Every time I watch it I have to sit and contemplate/discuss afterwards.

*Another factor that leads to an enjoyable movie experience: Jake Gyllenhall is delicious! (call me shallow, but he's very visually pleasing)
BackwoodsSquatches
01-04-2004, 06:11
Donnie Darko was a great movie..but if you actually believe it was the "greatest Movie Ever"......

You need to watch more movies.
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 06:13
Donnie Darko was a great movie..but if you actually believe it was the "greatest Movie Ever"......

You need to watch more movies.

I admit I dont get out much but it was really fantastic and personally the best movie I've ever seen.....what was better in your opinion?
Madesonia
01-04-2004, 06:13
No I am not a teenager and no I am not emo/punk/goth I think it is you who is closed minded and let your blatant biases get in the way of enjoying this movie....if you went in with the attitude you have now of course you wouldnt enjoy it and I doubt you gave it any thought after it ended which truely enriches the experience I gave plently of thought to it... and then... I had a thought... There really is nothing to think about.
Anbar
01-04-2004, 06:14
The reason that his psychatrist has been giving him placebos id because she knows nothing will work and at the end she starts to bleive him like the writer said in his commentary and the parents never knewabout thew placebos I dont think donnie was ever insane what he was seeing was real and he was chosen to return the artifact to the primary universe.....perhaps the psychatrist could also be like frank except she knows more than she tells donnie

Why would nothing work? Schizophrenics have been treated for decades. She may not have narrowed down the diagnosis, but it goes well beyond simply hallucinations from a depressive episode. We know this is nothing new to their therapeutic relationship, either.

"I made a new friend today." -Donnie
"Real or imaginary?" -Therapist

She may have started to believe him, but that does not explain the placebo administration in the first place. The parents would not have known, no, but they would have seen that there was no improvement. As for whether or not Donnie was ever really crazy, see quote above. Also, you'll need to define "crazy." Finally, perhaps the message the directors were trying to get across (slipping dangerously close to the social commentary again) was to question the notion of just who is crazy, and whether such people may be more attuned to certain things than we give them credit for. Perhaps Donnie was just the right person to both escape his fate and be able to put it right again, or to allow other forces to use him to do so, by virtue of his dysfunction.
Anbar
01-04-2004, 06:17
No I am not a teenager and no I am not emo/punk/goth I think it is you who is closed minded and let your blatant biases get in the way of enjoying this movie....if you went in with the attitude you have now of course you wouldnt enjoy it and I doubt you gave it any thought after it ended which truely enriches the experience I gave plently of thought to it... and then... I had a thought... There really is nothing to think about.

I may not be viewing this movie from the same angle that Aliedel seems to be, but I can quite easily say that if you came to this conclusion, you are sorely mistaken.
BackwoodsSquatches
01-04-2004, 06:19
Donnie Darko was a great movie..but if you actually believe it was the "greatest Movie Ever"......

You need to watch more movies.

I admit I dont get out much but it was really fantastic and personally the best movie I've ever seen.....what was better in your opinion?

Heres just one.

"Apocalypse Now"

One of the best..if not THE best movies ever.
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 06:20
No I am not a teenager and no I am not emo/punk/goth I think it is you who is closed minded and let your blatant biases get in the way of enjoying this movie....if you went in with the attitude you have now of course you wouldnt enjoy it and I doubt you gave it any thought after it ended which truely enriches the experience I gave plently of thought to it... and then... I had a thought... There really is nothing to think about.


ok then what is the significance of frank and why did donnie need to die and why did the jet engine land on his room and what was the significance of mrs.sparrow

and to anbar: like I said the only explanations are is either she was trying to destroy him or she knew all along and didnt want to harm him with drugs he didnt need.....and yes maybe donnie is crazy but it also appears his insanity saved countless lives....unless it was all in his head
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 06:21
Donnie Darko was a great movie..but if you actually believe it was the "greatest Movie Ever"......

You need to watch more movies.

I admit I dont get out much but it was really fantastic and personally the best movie I've ever seen.....what was better in your opinion?

Heres just one.

"Apocalypse Now"

One of the best..if not THE best movies ever.



Hmm I didnt think it was that great.......guess you have to see it from beginning to end....perhaps I should rent it
Madesonia
01-04-2004, 06:24
[quote="Aliedelok then what is the significance of frank and why did donnie need to die and why did the jet engine land on his room and what was the significance of mrs.sparrow

and to anbar: like I said the only explanations are is either she was trying to destroy him or she knew all along and didnt want to harm him with drugs he didnt need.....and yes maybe donnie is crazy but it also appears his insanity saved countless lives....unless it was all in his head[/quote]

JEEEE-SUS! I was just razzin' you. I thought it was an okay movie.. Don't get worked up or anything...
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 06:27
[quote="Aliedelok then what is the significance of frank and why did donnie need to die and why did the jet engine land on his room and what was the significance of mrs.sparrow

and to anbar: like I said the only explanations are is either she was trying to destroy him or she knew all along and didnt want to harm him with drugs he didnt need.....and yes maybe donnie is crazy but it also appears his insanity saved countless lives....unless it was all in his head

JEEEE-SUS! I was just razzin' you. I thought it was an okay movie.. Don't get worked up or anything...[/quote]


I wasnt trying to although I admit the goth/emo thing did ruffle my feathers a bit I'm just trying to come to terms with how someone could not enjoy this movie......
01-04-2004, 06:30
Best Soundtrack Ever
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 06:32
Best Soundtrack Ever


I really liked Mad Mad World but I prefer the video at the end rather than the music video very calming song though
Rosarita
01-04-2004, 06:35
Best Soundtrack Ever Word to that. I love 80s music, and I especially love Mad World. It fits perfectly..but the Tears For Fears orignal version is much better than the Gary Jules one.
Sdaeriji
01-04-2004, 06:36
It was alright. Certainly not the best movie ever. The plot's been done before, the acting was subpar (besides Jake Gyllenhaal), and the dialogue was unimpressive. For a B movie, it was pretty good, but to call it the best movie ever is just ridiculous.
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 06:40
It was alright. Certainly not the best movie ever. The plot's been done before, the acting was subpar (besides Jake Gyllenhaal), and the dialogue was unimpressive. For a B movie, it was pretty good, but to call it the best movie ever is just ridiculous.


The plots been done before? Please point me to the movie where a "crazy" protagonist is lead through clues and ultimately back to his own death via the way of a wormhole via a six foot tall rabbit........but at least you said it was alright and I have to admit some of the acting wasnt fantastic but I dont think it was much of a problem
Sdaeriji
01-04-2004, 06:43
It was alright. Certainly not the best movie ever. The plot's been done before, the acting was subpar (besides Jake Gyllenhaal), and the dialogue was unimpressive. For a B movie, it was pretty good, but to call it the best movie ever is just ridiculous.


The plots been done before? Please point me to the movie where a "crazy" protagonist is lead through clues and ultimately back to his own death via the way of a wormhole via a six foot tall rabbit........but at least you said it was alright and I have to admit some of the acting wasnt fantastic but I dont think it was much of a problem

You're an idiot. I didn't mean that the specific plot has been done exactly as it was done in this movie. I meant that the general concepts of the plot have been dealt with in previous movies.

You seriously need to lay off this "best movie ever, no questions about it" attitude. Have you ever seen Citizen Kane?
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 06:47
It was alright. Certainly not the best movie ever. The plot's been done before, the acting was subpar (besides Jake Gyllenhaal), and the dialogue was unimpressive. For a B movie, it was pretty good, but to call it the best movie ever is just ridiculous.


The plots been done before? Please point me to the movie where a "crazy" protagonist is lead through clues and ultimately back to his own death via the way of a wormhole via a six foot tall rabbit........but at least you said it was alright and I have to admit some of the acting wasnt fantastic but I dont think it was much of a problem

You're an idiot. I didn't mean that the specific plot has been done exactly as it was done in this movie. I meant that the general concepts of the plot have been dealt with in previous movies.

You seriously need to lay off this "best movie ever, no questions about it" attitude. Have you ever seen Citizen Kane?


Sorry if i seemed arrogant I think I kind of was I'm just asking where this concept has been used before and I got a little crazy.....I have only seen a bit of citizen kane I like color in my movies and if memory serves me correctly that was in black and white
Sdaeriji
01-04-2004, 06:49
Sorry if i seemed arrogant I think I kind of was I'm just asking where this concept has been used before and I got a little crazy.....I have only seen a bit of citizen kane I like color in my movies and if memory serves me correctly that was in black and white

Wow. To dislike a movie simply because it is in black and white shows a profound lack of cinematic taste. Did you dislike Schindler's List just because it was in black and white? Or was the red enough for you?
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 06:52
Sorry if i seemed arrogant I think I kind of was I'm just asking where this concept has been used before and I got a little crazy.....I have only seen a bit of citizen kane I like color in my movies and if memory serves me correctly that was in black and white

Wow. To dislike a movie simply because it is in black and white shows a profound lack of cinematic taste. Did you dislike Schindler's List just because it was in black and white? Or was the red enough for you?

I'm not saying a movie is bad because it is in black and white though I do enjoy seeing all the colors I would see a really good black and white movie if it interested me......I'll be sure to check out citizen kane...
Kernlandia
01-04-2004, 06:54
so you're all talking about something else, but i'm going to talk about donnie darko anyway. god DAMN i love sparkle motion! LOVE! pulsating heart emoticon it!
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 06:58
so you're all talking about something else, but i'm going to talk about donnie darko anyway. god DAMN i love sparkle motion! LOVE! pulsating heart emoticon it!


I have to admit those girls have some moves considering theyre like 5.....I also am ashamed to admit I loved that song........notorious notorious
Rosarita
01-04-2004, 06:58
I have to admit those girls have some moves considering theyre like 5.....I also am ashamed to admit I loved that song........notorious notorious Don't be ashamed...embrace it in all of its lovely 80s glory!
Sdaeriji
01-04-2004, 06:59
Sorry if i seemed arrogant I think I kind of was I'm just asking where this concept has been used before and I got a little crazy.....I have only seen a bit of citizen kane I like color in my movies and if memory serves me correctly that was in black and white

Wow. To dislike a movie simply because it is in black and white shows a profound lack of cinematic taste. Did you dislike Schindler's List just because it was in black and white? Or was the red enough for you?

I'm not saying a movie is bad because it is in black and white though I do enjoy seeing all the colors I would see a really good black and white movie if it interested me......I'll be sure to check out citizen kane...

It's a great movie.

And I'm not saying I didn't like Donnie Darko. I understood the plot just fine, and I love movies that deal with the intricacies of time travel. I just couldn't get past the poor acting and dialogue in the movie to enjoy it. As great as a plot is, the movie can fail if it isn't delivered properly, and I don't think it was in this case.
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 07:04
Well i suppose I prefer story over acting I can honestly say with only a handful of exceptions a movies acting has never gotten in the way of my enjoyment of it perhaps I am unsophisticated in the cinema.......and could you help some of us with the plot? not to put you on the spot but how did donnies death return the "artifact" to the primary universe and why would a rift in the 4th dimensional construct cause people to not act like themselves? dont answer these if you dont want to its just a question....
Kernlandia
01-04-2004, 07:05
tough movie to explain. my whole theory is that he (SPOILER) saw into god's chosen path and never actually left his bed-and that's how he time traveled. and by letting himself stay in bed instead of following in the path, he defeated the master plan.
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 07:08
tough movie to explain. my whole theory is that he (SPOILER) saw into god's chosen path and never actually left his bed-and that's how he time traveled. and by letting himself stay in bed instead of following in the path, he defeated the master plan.


I saw it in a totally different light at least until I read the philosophy of time travel which explains it totally different.....I think he defied gods plan at the beginning thus causing a rift in this 4th dimensional construct so frank had to lead him back to his destined path so the universe wouldnt collapse unto itself and kill everyone
Kernlandia
01-04-2004, 07:12
i think there are a lot of different interpretations, and i don't know that there's one right one..
Democratic Nationality
01-04-2004, 07:14
The movie was a load of complete s***. Poorly acted, sophomoric theories about time travel and saving the world from big, bad Republicans (Democrats/Liberals are always the good guys in Hollywood etc.). Even the special effects looked like they were done on a Commodore Amiga, c. 1992. It took less than $600,000 at the box office because, well, it was garbage.
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 07:14
i think there are a lot of different interpretations, and i don't know that there's one right one..


Yep and thats the thing that makes the movie great and thats what I intended for this thread to be about though I was very broad and I think it turned out fine but im interested in hearing other peoples interpretations of what happened
Sdaeriji
01-04-2004, 07:16
The movie was a load of complete s***. Poorly acted, sophomoric theories about time travel and saving the world from big, bad Republicans (Democrats/Liberals are always the good guys in Hollywood etc.). Even the special effects looked like they were done on a Commodore Amiga, c. 1992. It took less than $600,000 at the box office because, well, it was garbage.

You do realize it was a B movie, right?
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 07:16
The movie was a load of complete s***. Poorly acted, sophomoric theories about time travel and saving the world from big, bad Republicans (Democrats/Liberals are always the good guys in Hollywood etc.). Even the special effects looked like they were done on a Commodore Amiga, c. 1992. It took less than $600,000 at the box office because, well, it was garbage.



They're trying to save the world from republicans??? I hate to say it but I shall borrow a line from Reno 911 "Youre in space Weigel"
Kernlandia
01-04-2004, 07:20
The movie was a load of complete s***. Poorly acted, sophomoric theories about time travel and saving the world from big, bad Republicans (Democrats/Liberals are always the good guys in Hollywood etc.). Even the special effects looked like they were done on a Commodore Amiga, c. 1992. It took less than $600,000 at the box office because, well, it was garbage.

he wasn't saving the world from republicans..god knows his dad was a republican, and he was shown in a positive light.

oh, and i'm voting for dukakis.
Rosarita
01-04-2004, 07:21
oh, and i'm voting for dukakis. would that be before or after you stop working at the yarn barn?
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 07:22
Both the sister and the dad didnt play that big of roles and both were portrayed as fairly decent people not to mention that the bush dukakis thing was very insignificant in relation to the story
Kernlandia
01-04-2004, 07:22
oh, and i'm voting for dukakis. would that be before or after you stop working at the yarn barn?

well, feces are baby mice, and you can't squeeze one out until eighth grade.
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 07:23
oh, and i'm voting for dukakis. would that be before or after you stop working at the yarn barn?

"When can I push one out?"

"Not until 8th grade"

so many good quotesa
Kernlandia
01-04-2004, 07:25
so many quotable quotes. i titled a whole bunch of essays for my english class with some of them.
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 07:27
oh, and i'm voting for dukakis. would that be before or after you stop working at the yarn barn?

well, feces are baby mice, and you can't squeeze one out until eighth grade.


Chut up! You stole both of my potential quotes i was going to use.....uhhhh

"smurfs are asexual theres nothing in those little white pants"

or something like that I have a bad memory
Democratic Nationality
01-04-2004, 07:27
It amazes me that this film has a cult status now. Forget the inevitable political bias. The writer/director, who was 26 at the time, interjects some gibberish about Stephen Hawking's book without touching on one percent of what that book was about. He must have read a summary of the book on Amazon. And yes, it was a B-Movie. However, production costs were $6 million. It grossed 10% of its costs at the box office. Sometimes a real classic is underappreciated, such as "Series 7", but "Darko" was just trash.
Rosarita
01-04-2004, 07:27
And there shall be more excellent titles to come.
(not that they're in any way relevant)
Kernlandia
01-04-2004, 07:28
Chut up!

cherita chen is the embodiment of sadness. i feel so bad for her. oh, that autumn angel.
Rosarita
01-04-2004, 07:29
Chut up!

cherita chen is the embodiment of sadness. i feel so bad for her. oh, that autumn angel. She is so horrible, sad and left out. She makes my heart hurt.
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 07:30
It amazes me that this film has a cult status now. Forget the inevitable political bias. The writer/director, who was 26 at the time, interjects some gibberish about Stephen Hawking's book without touching on one percent of what that book was about. He must have read a summary of the book on Amazon. And yes, it was a B-Movie. However, production costs were $6 million. It grossed 10% of its costs at the box office. Sometimes a real classic is underappreciated, such as "Series 7", but "Darko" was just trash.

He had a brief talk with his teacher about what was in Hawkings book and I think it was good summary considering it was condenses a complicated book into 2 or 3 sentences and that wasnt even really the theory the movie used and I still dont see this political bias and......did you even see this movie?
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 07:32
Chut up!

cherita chen is the embodiment of sadness. i feel so bad for her. oh, that autumn angel.

It was sad in a deleted scene when the bus was coming and they were about to leave because thats some obscure law to keep the kids from being molested and one of the kids said he hopes cherita gets molested
Kernlandia
01-04-2004, 07:34
Chut up!

cherita chen is the embodiment of sadness. i feel so bad for her. oh, that autumn angel.

It was sad in a deleted scene when the bus was coming and they were about to leave because thats some obscure law to keep the kids from being molested and one of the kids said he hopes cherita gets molested

i know...i saw the deleted scenes..that sure was tear-inducing.

but i think you're the fucking antichrist!

fear....love....
Rosarita
01-04-2004, 07:34
Chut up!

cherita chen is the embodiment of sadness. i feel so bad for her. oh, that autumn angel.

It was sad in a deleted scene when the bus was coming and they were about to leave because thats some obscure law to keep the kids from being molested and one of the kids said he hopes cherita gets molested I have seen that scene and it was horrid. poor girl.
fear...love..fear...love
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 07:35
deleted scene: I once had an extended sexual fantasy about Mr.Rogers
Kernlandia
01-04-2004, 07:38
deleted scene: I once had an extended sexual fantasy about Mr.Rogers

that made me laugh so freaking hard.

also the one where his dad wants to buy him a moped for insulting kitty farmer.

"Sometimes I doubt your commitment to SparkleMotion!"

"He told me to forcibly insert this book up my anus!"
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 07:40
Mom: I just dont think Its right to tell any woam to forcibly insert a book into their anus

Dad: I think we should buy him a moped
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 07:46
Donnie tries to kiss gretchen

Gretchen: Stop I just
Donnie: You want it to be a time where it reminds you how wonderful the world can be?
Grechine: Yeah and right now theres some fat guy staring at us
Rosarita
01-04-2004, 07:47
I love that movie! It's very quotable.
Sugaryfun
01-04-2004, 07:53
Best movie ever?

Not even close.

A good movie and well acted?

Sure.

I'd go with that.
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 07:54
Best movie ever?

Not even close.

A good movie and well acted?

Sure.

I'd go with that.

We WILL make you one of us........*gets out the mind programmer machine*
Sugaryfun
01-04-2004, 07:59
Best movie ever?

Not even close.

A good movie and well acted?

Sure.

I'd go with that.

We WILL make you one of us........*gets out the mind programmer machine*

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it. It was well acted and interesting, and left things kinda open at the end, which makes a nice change from forumlaic Hollywood endings. I just don't think it was 'the best movie ever'.
Sugaryfun
01-04-2004, 08:03
Best movie ever?

Not even close.

A good movie and well acted?

Sure.

Curse you! Draw your foil! Perhaps you havent seen the deleted scenes and the pages from the philosophy of time travel......in which case you are slightly forgiven........

I haven't seen any of that stuff, it wasn't on the DVD I rented. Maybe they released a different version here.
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 08:05
does anyone have any news on donald darko numero dos? The writer/director hinted there would be one but may have abandoned it due to poor box office sales......thats why i wish to post a petition in support of Donnie Darko 2........I havent gotten closure and the writer wants to make another one.......is there any place I can post a petition for free?
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 08:06
Best movie ever?

Not even close.

A good movie and well acted?

Sure.

Curse you! Draw your foil! Perhaps you havent seen the deleted scenes and the pages from the philosophy of time travel......in which case you are slightly forgiven........

I haven't seen any of that stuff, it wasn't on the DVD I rented. Maybe they released a different version here.

It was under special features......its unfortunate a lot of really great and insightful scenes had to be cut and the philiosophy of time travel showed a unique view of what transpired
At Lantis
01-04-2004, 08:13
(haven't read the rest of the thread, but oh well)

Donnie Darko was undoubtedly an excellent movie. It was a little creepy, and the evil bunny kinda freaked me out, but when you got to the end and it all tied together, I found it to be an good movie.

Not the best, perhaps, but certainly right up there.
At Lantis
01-04-2004, 08:18
Sometimes a real classic is underappreciated, such as "Series 7"...

I found this movie to be total crap. If you could call it a movie. I couldn't even sit through all of it. It was extremely violent, and seemed to make fun of people killing other people. :evil:
Aliedel
01-04-2004, 08:22
Sometimes a real classic is underappreciated, such as "Series 7"...

I found this movie to be total crap. If you could call it a movie. I couldn't even sit through all of it. It was extremely violent, and seemed to make fun of people killing other people. :evil:


I have rarely ever seen an "original" horror movie
01-04-2004, 09:12
I loved this movie. In fact, it's about time I saw it again as my memory is getting a little rusty. However, I would seriously advise you NOT to create a petition in support of a sequel. You have obviously not thought this through. Honestly, with the exception of maybe the Godfather, have you ever seen a movie sequel which adequately equalled the original? I certainly can't name one. For my part, if there is a Donnie Darko sequel I will never see it. It's a great movie, don't ruin it by trying to recreate something so well-enjoyed.
Utopio
01-04-2004, 09:22
I found this movie [Series 7 - The Contenders] to be total crap. If you could call it a movie. I couldn't even sit through all of it. It was extremely violent, and seemed to make fun of people killing other people. :evil:

Series 7 was a brilliant satirical look at reality TV.
Sugaryfun
01-04-2004, 10:43
It was alright. Certainly not the best movie ever. The plot's been done before, the acting was subpar (besides Jake Gyllenhaal), and the dialogue was unimpressive. For a B movie, it was pretty good, but to call it the best movie ever is just ridiculous.


The plots been done before? Please point me to the movie where a "crazy" protagonist is lead through clues and ultimately back to his own death via the way of a wormhole via a six foot tall rabbit........but at least you said it was alright and I have to admit some of the acting wasnt fantastic but I dont think it was much of a problem

You're an idiot. I didn't mean that the specific plot has been done exactly as it was done in this movie. I meant that the general concepts of the plot have been dealt with in previous movies.

You seriously need to lay off this "best movie ever, no questions about it" attitude. Have you ever seen Citizen Kane?

I wouldn't call 'Citizen Kane' the best movie ever either. Dull as watching paint dry, it was just a vehicle for Orson Welles to show off.
Plastic Hams on Sticks
01-04-2004, 10:45
*points to Mulholland Drive*

or

'you can go suck a fuck'
Sugaryfun
01-04-2004, 10:45
Best movie ever?

Not even close.

A good movie and well acted?

Sure.

Curse you! Draw your foil! Perhaps you havent seen the deleted scenes and the pages from the philosophy of time travel......in which case you are slightly forgiven........

I haven't seen any of that stuff, it wasn't on the DVD I rented. Maybe they released a different version here.

It was under special features......its unfortunate a lot of really great and insightful scenes had to be cut and the philiosophy of time travel showed a unique view of what transpired

The DVD I rented had no 'special features' on it, just the movie itself.
Sugaryfun
01-04-2004, 10:46
I loved this movie. In fact, it's about time I saw it again as my memory is getting a little rusty. However, I would seriously advise you NOT to create a petition in support of a sequel. You have obviously not thought this through. Honestly, with the exception of maybe the Godfather, have you ever seen a movie sequel which adequately equalled the original? I certainly can't name one. For my part, if there is a Donnie Darko sequel I will never see it. It's a great movie, don't ruin it by trying to recreate something so well-enjoyed.

Return of the Jedi (example of a movie sequal that equalled the original).
Sdaeriji
01-04-2004, 10:47
I loved this movie. In fact, it's about time I saw it again as my memory is getting a little rusty. However, I would seriously advise you NOT to create a petition in support of a sequel. You have obviously not thought this through. Honestly, with the exception of maybe the Godfather, have you ever seen a movie sequel which adequately equalled the original? I certainly can't name one. For my part, if there is a Donnie Darko sequel I will never see it. It's a great movie, don't ruin it by trying to recreate something so well-enjoyed.

Return of the Jedi (example of a movie sequal that equalled the original).

All three Indiana Jones movies were excellent.
Sugaryfun
01-04-2004, 10:48
Sometimes a real classic is underappreciated, such as "Series 7"...

I found this movie to be total crap. If you could call it a movie. I couldn't even sit through all of it. It was extremely violent, and seemed to make fun of people killing other people. :evil:


I have rarely ever seen an "original" horror movie

What's original anymore anyway? With a couple of thousand years of history behind us it's hard to come up with a story that hasn't already been told.
Sugaryfun
01-04-2004, 10:50
Sometimes a real classic is underappreciated, such as "Series 7"...

I found this movie to be total crap. If you could call it a movie. I couldn't even sit through all of it. It was extremely violent, and seemed to make fun of people killing other people. :evil:

It's black comedy. The movie is supposed to show the sort of society we could be heading towards with this culture we have of enjoying watching other people's misery (the Germans call it 'schadenfreude' why don't we have an English word for it?)
Aliedel
02-04-2004, 00:55
I loved this movie. In fact, it's about time I saw it again as my memory is getting a little rusty. However, I would seriously advise you NOT to create a petition in support of a sequel. You have obviously not thought this through. Honestly, with the exception of maybe the Godfather, have you ever seen a movie sequel which adequately equalled the original? I certainly can't name one. For my part, if there is a Donnie Darko sequel I will never see it. It's a great movie, don't ruin it by trying to recreate something so well-enjoyed.


True sequels are rareky ever great but the director says we wants to make another which means he has more to say which means I want to listen
02-04-2004, 06:58
A sequel to this really, totally, completely crap movie? I doubt it. It was such an excuse for a movie, I couldn't believe how sad it was. Didn't someone say that the movie lost loads and loads of money? They don't make sequels to movies that are both crap AND lose lots of money. There are plenty of pathetic movies they make sequels to - the ones the morons fill the box offices for - but this one is not in that category. Sorry, no sequel. :twisted:
Kernlandia
02-04-2004, 07:00
this thread is still going? my my, donnie darko brings a lot of comments out.
Aliedel
02-04-2004, 07:02
A sequel to this really, totally, completely crap movie? I doubt it. It was such an excuse for a movie, I couldn't believe how sad it was. Didn't someone say that the movie lost loads and loads of money? They don't make sequels to movies that are both crap AND lose lots of money. There are plenty of pathetic movies they make sequels to - the ones the morons fill the box offices for - but this one is not in that category. Sorry, no sequel. :twisted:


Ive never seen a more appropriate title than OMG Noobie for someone like you no it didnt gross a lot of money it was mostly and independent film that doesnt say anything about its quality actually its usually the blockbusters that are the worst and you provide no reasons for saying this movie is crap and its just a totally ridiculous claim. I could see if you didn't like it or didn't think it was "the best movie ever" but saying it is total crap is just ludicrous.
Aliedel
02-04-2004, 07:03
this thread is still going? my my, donnie darko brings a lot of comments out.


Are you suprised? Even those who claim not to enjoy it are compelled by it
Kernlandia
02-04-2004, 07:04
apparently. and i still like it. a lot.
Aliedel
02-04-2004, 07:13
http://www.ruinedeye.com/cd/

Donnie fans go here its very helpful
New Granada
02-04-2004, 08:19
To be honest, it really wasnt a very good movie.

Alot of drivel packed together in the hope that people will think it has relevence and complex meaning.

Not altogether different from "The Emperor's New Clothes."
Aliedel
02-04-2004, 08:21
To be honest, it really wasnt a very good movie.

Alot of drivel packed together in the hope that people will think it has relevence and complex meaning.

Not altogether different from "The Emperor's New Clothes."

Well if you look into it it really does make a lot of sense you can look at my two previous links and the special features on the DVD and you will start to seee how much sense it actually makes.....of course I'm still a bit confused but its far from drivel.
Madesonia
02-04-2004, 08:22
To be honest, it really wasnt a very good movie.

Alot of drivel packed together in the hope that people will think it has relevence and complex meaning.

Not altogether different from "The Emperor's New Clothes."THANK YOU!!! I LOVE YOU!!! Now Quickly without finding out what your gender is... I'm going to say, "Take me now!!!"
New Granada
02-04-2004, 08:25
To be honest, it really wasnt a very good movie.

Alot of drivel packed together in the hope that people will think it has relevence and complex meaning.

Not altogether different from "The Emperor's New Clothes."

Well if you look into it it really does make a lot of sense you can look at my two previous links and the special features on the DVD and you will start to seee how much sense it actually makes.....of course I'm still a bit confused but its far from drivel.


Huh!?
I dont remember saying that the movie didnt make sense...
Aliedel
02-04-2004, 08:25
To be honest, it really wasnt a very good movie.

Alot of drivel packed together in the hope that people will think it has relevence and complex meaning.

Not altogether different from "The Emperor's New Clothes."THANK YOU!!! I LOVE YOU!!! Now Quickly without finding out what your gender is... I'm going to say, "Take me now!!!"

See my previous post......just repectfully disagreeing
Aliedel
02-04-2004, 08:27
To be honest, it really wasnt a very good movie.

Alot of drivel packed together in the hope that people will think it has relevence and complex meaning.

Not altogether different from "The Emperor's New Clothes."

Well if you look into it it really does make a lot of sense you can look at my two previous links and the special features on the DVD and you will start to seee how much sense it actually makes.....of course I'm still a bit confused but its far from drivel.


Huh!?
I dont remember saying that the movie didnt make sense...

You say it was a lot of drivel put together and saying it wasnt relevant.....All of the things that happened were actually quite relevant to the story and to the end
New Granada
02-04-2004, 08:28
Nevertheless, it's rather sleazy to load whatever it is you were saying with the assertion that as a critic of the movie, I did not understand it.

Furthermore, it is self-congratulatory, since it implies that while I did not understand the film, you did.

There is a world of difference between failing to understand something and failing to be impressed by it.
Aliedel
02-04-2004, 08:31
Nevertheless, it's rather sleazy to load whatever it is you were saying with the assertion that as a critic of the movie, I did not understand it.

Furthermore, it is self-congratulatory, since it implies that while I did not understand the film, you did.

There is a world of difference between failing to understand something and failing to be impressed by it.

I meant that the things you saw as drivel were actually quite relative I'll be the first to admit I dont get it and I dont think there is one definitive answer. I just really think that there are obscure and not so obscure refereneces that were lost on most including myself until I viewed what these websites had to say.
New Granada
02-04-2004, 08:32
Elements of the story have relevence within the narrow confines of the story itself, but the story isnt profound in the sense of say, Siddhartha.
Aliedel
02-04-2004, 08:36
Elements of the story have relevence within the narrow confines of the story itself, but the story isnt profound in the sense of say, Siddhartha.


I dont know what Siddhartha is but you also have to look at the relevance that its a rabbit costume and not something else an animal which has symbolic meaning in many cultures. And you also have to remember its a movie.....not a thesis....not a religion .....a movie just like any other movie.
02-04-2004, 09:02
Aliedel MUST be in love with Jake Gyllenhaal. There's no reason to spend so much time on this movie otherwise. I don't think I ever saw anyone so obsessed with a movie as this person is. :o
Aliedel
02-04-2004, 09:05
Aliedel MUST be in love with Jake Gyllenhaal. There's no reason to spend so much time on this movie otherwise. I don't think I ever saw anyone so obsessed with a movie as this person is. :o


Obsessed I am but no I am not in love with Jake Gylenhall but Maggie Gyllenhall and the girl who played Gretchen were both pretty hot (and she was like 17 at the time close enough) but thats not the point this is just a fantastic movie.
Aliedel
02-04-2004, 09:10
And if the passion of the christ deserves and episode of southpark this movie at least deserves a thread