NationStates Jolt Archive

Just in case you still believe that trickle down economics and tax cuts to the rich works here is the unemployment trends for the last few years. You will see that the economic plan of Bill Clinton worked, and we had two years of surpluses. Do not buy the republican lie.

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr MayJun Jul AugSep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1987 7.3 7.2 6.9 6.2 6.1 6.3 6.1 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.6 5.4 6.2
1988 6.3 6.2 5.9 5.3 5.4 5.5 5.5 5.4 5.2 5.0 5.2 5.0 5.5
1989 6.0 5.6 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.5 5.3 5.1 5.1 5.0 5.2 5.1 5.3
1990 6.0 5.9 5.5 5.3 5.2 5.4 5.6 5.5 5.6 5.5 5.9 6.0 5.6
1991 7.1 7.3 7.2 6.5 6.7 7.0 6.8 6.6 6.5 6.5 6.7 6.9 6.8
1992 8.1 8.2 7.8 7.2 7.3 8.0 7.7 7.4 7.3 6.9 7.1 7.1 7.5
1993 8.0 7.8 7.4 6.9 6.8 7.2 7.0 6.6 6.4 6.4 6.2 6.1 6.9
1994 7.3 7.1 6.8 6.2 5.9 6.2 6.2 5.9 5.6 5.4 5.3 5.1 6.1
1995 6.2 5.9 5.7 5.6 5.5 5.8 5.9 5.6 5.4 5.2 5.3 5.2 5.6
1996 6.3 6.0 5.8 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.6 5.1 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.4
1997 5.9 5.7 5.5 4.8 4.7 5.2 5.0 4.8 4.7 4.4 4.3 4.4 4.9
1998 5.2 5.0 5.0 4.1 4.2 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.2 4.1 4.0 4.5
1999 4.8 4.7 4.4 4.1 4.0 4.5 4.5 4.2 4.1 3.8 3.8 3.7 4.2
2000 4.5 4.4 4.3 3.7 3.8 4.1 4.2 4.1 3.8 3.6 3.7 3.7 4.0
2001 4.7 4.6 4.5 4.2 4.1 4.7 4.7 4.9 4.7 5.0 5.3 5.4 4.7
2002 6.3 6.1 6.1 5.7 5.5 6.0 5.9 5.7 5.4 5.3 5.6 5.7 5.8
2003 6.5 6.4 6.2 5.8 5.8 6.5 6.3 6.0 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.4 6.0
2004 6.3 6.0

Bush Sr.
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Well, under Bush Sr., his 4 year unemployment average was 6.3% which was a war time. Clinton's 8 year average was 5.2% which was during a non-war time but was built on an economy of corporations cooking the books to inflate income results. Bush Jr's average thru Feb 2004 is 5.76% which includes the 9-11 attacks, bringing down said cooked book corporations and war time.

But hey, if you want to stick your head in the sand and go back to the days of inflated company incomes and cooked books.....

Well, under Bush Sr., his 4 year unemployment average was 6.3% which was a war time. Clinton's 8 year average was 5.2% which was during a non-war time but was built on an economy of corporations cooking the books to inflate income results. Bush Jr's average thru Feb 2004 is 5.76% which includes the 9-11 attacks, bringing down said cooked book corporations and war time.

But hey, if you want to stick your head in the sand and go back to the days of inflated company incomes and cooked books.....

Dang, you beat me to it. Good job.

Well, under Bush Sr., his 4 year unemployment average was 6.3% which was a war time. Clinton's 8 year average was 5.2% which was during a non-war time but was built on an economy of corporations cooking the books to inflate income results. Bush Jr's average thru Feb 2004 is 5.76% which includes the 9-11 attacks, bringing down said cooked book corporations and war time.

But hey, if you want to stick your head in the sand and go back to the days of inflated company incomes and cooked books.....No, no, no. Rupublicans are in bed with business and against the common man, so obviously Bush Jr. is responsible for all those companies cooking their books in the years before he became president, if only he hadn't become president then all the scandals that came out in the early part of his presidency would never have retroactively happened. Geeze, don't you pay any attention to the news?

That's why it takes someone like Sen. herry to stick up for the little guy and shaft big business by his tax prosposals. Sen. Kerry is forthright in increasing taxes on the indivdual tax payers so he can lower the taxes on corporations, thus helping the little guy at the expense of those corporate interests who are part of the GOP.

dp, darn server.

LMAO!

Squi is correct---Kerry wants to stop the republicans corporate warfare against america

Squi is correct---Kerry wants to stop the republicans corporate warfare against america

I agree...Squi is 100% right. Too bad Red Arrow didn't spend more time reading what Squi posted. :lol:

Squi is correct---Kerry wants to stop the republicans corporate warfare against america

Oh mercy...are you not even going to address the issues the other's brought up?...lol..

tomorow liberals will be on the radio for the first time ever in America--tune in to the O'Franken Factor and spread the power

Squi is correct---Kerry wants to stop the republicans corporate warfare against america

I agree...Squi is 100% right. Too bad Red Arrow didn't spend more time reading what Squi posted. :lol:

Squi attacked the corporations that oppress every american today

A Republican has been in office for the majority of my years.
My family is by no means rich, yet lives rather comfortably in a nice suburb, I am currently getting an education and about to enter law school, and no one in my family (immediate, aunts, uncles, cousins) is unemployed or fearing for his/her job. Sounds like with Republicans i have won.

Squi is correct---Kerry wants to stop the republicans corporate warfare against america

Oh mercy...are you not even going to address the issues the other's brought up?...lol..

do you have some kinda death wish?

A Republican has been in office for the majority of my years.
My family is by no means rich, yet lives rather comfortably in a nice suburb, I am currently getting an education and about to enter law school, and no one in my family (immediate, aunts, uncles, cousins) is unemployed or fearing for his/her job. Sounds like with Republicans i have won.

or the 'burbs have sheilded you from reality--thats what they were created for u know

A Republican has been in office for the majority of my years.
My family is by no means rich, yet lives rather comfortably in a nice suburb, I am currently getting an education and about to enter law school, and no one in my family (immediate, aunts, uncles, cousins) is unemployed or fearing for his/her job. Sounds like with Republicans i have won.

or the 'burbs have sheilded you from reality--thats what they were created for u know

You know everyone blames Clinton, yet there is one little catch. Every since his affair acusations, 1993 or something, being Whitewater, the Republicans controlled the congress.

Clinton may have proposed the disasterous economic policy, but the Republicans gave the okay.


However, that has nothing to do with unemployment. Back on unemployment, you can look at in different ways. One being average, but better is the median, beacause its cahnged less by the extreames. Ill look to see what the median of the 3 presidents are.

Bill Clinton rocks.

Squi is correct---Kerry wants to stop the republicans corporate warfare against america

I agree...Squi is 100% right. Too bad Red Arrow didn't spend more time reading what Squi posted. :lol:

Squi attacked the corporations that oppress every american today

bullshit, I'm not being oppressed right now.

It is just par for the course when a liberal side-steps. Generally I have found that when a liberal has facts shown to them that shoots holes in their theories, they get wound up like little taz devils, scream and shout. Logic is a non-factor.

As for liberal radio, heck, I thought the media was liberal as a whole anyway. :lol:

Squi is correct---Kerry wants to stop the republicans corporate warfare against america

I agree...Squi is 100% right. Too bad Red Arrow didn't spend more time reading what Squi posted. :lol:

Squi attacked the corporations that oppress every american today

bullshit, I'm not being oppressed right now.

you are you just dont know it

I should point out that the stock market had historical highs during the Clinton administration.

It is just par for the course when a liberal side-steps. Generally I have found that when a liberal has facts shown to them that shoots holes in their theories, they get wound up like little taz devils, scream and shout. Logic is a non-factor.

As for liberal radio, heck, I thought the media was liberal as a whole anyway. :lol:

its not--its controlled by the corporate enemies of humanity

I should point out that the stock market had historical highs during the Clinton administration.

will america ever have the peace and prosperity of the Clinton years ever again?

I should point out that the stock market had historical highs during the Clinton administration.

will america ever have the peace and prosperity of the Clinton years ever again?

I hope so. But not as long as President Bush is in office.

I should point out that the stock market had historical highs during the Clinton administration.

will america ever have the peace and prosperity of the Clinton years ever again?

I hope so. But not as long as President Bush is in office.

Can you imagine all the crap Kerry will have to clean up that Bush will leave behind? Itll prly all get blamed on him too even tho Bush left it

So you still refuse to acknowledge that during the Clinton years the economy and stock market was built upon corporate cooked books and inflated profits. Typical spin.

Medians

Bush Sr=6.5
Clinton=5.1
Bush Jr.=5.6
close to the avarages.

All I am going to say that if you can drop the average 1.4% over 8 years (1.1% by average) thats very good. If Bush did that we would have 4.4% (4.65%) by end of 2004. Still has time.
:wink:

So you still refuse to acknowledge that during the Clinton years the economy and stock market was built upon corporate cooked books and inflated profits. Typical spin.

still had jobs

Yeah Kerry better also get elected two terms.

One, maybe one and a half to clean up Bush's bullshit. And the next to leave his own mark.

So you still refuse to acknowledge that during the Clinton years the economy and stock market was built upon corporate cooked books and inflated profits. Typical spin.

still had jobs

That makes sense... We had jobs, but were based on phoney numbers that had to burst at some point. Again, I point to Bush Jr's current 5.6%. Not bad at all considering all the US has gone through. Spin it all you like.

Reptilicans ate my spellcheck!
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Reptilicans ate my spellcheck!
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LOL

So you still refuse to acknowledge that during the Clinton years the economy and stock market was built upon corporate cooked books and inflated profits. Typical spin.

still had jobs

That makes sense... We had jobs, but were based on phoney numbers that had to burst at some point. Again, I point to Bush Jr's current 5.6%. Not bad at all considering all the US has gone through. Spin it all you like.

Okay they were phoney.

Now Bush Sr left unemployment at around 7%. Now the unemployment is around 6%.

Something must have happened.

It is just par for the course when a liberal side-steps. Generally I have found that when a liberal has facts shown to them that shoots holes in their theories, they get wound up like little taz devils, scream and shout. Logic is a non-factor.

As for liberal radio, heck, I thought the media was liberal as a whole anyway.
You really don't understand. Liberals do not get wound up, stomp lace hankies, and have a snit because someone shoots holes in their theories. They are upset because you don't understand that they know what is best for you and, well, just everyone! Don't you know, in spite of your ignorance and facts, that is the truth. Really!

For my ownself I sure do hope the Democrats get into office. I look forward to them raising taxes to fund all of the lovely little socialist welfare programs they want to put into place not to mention all of the ones they have already shoved down....er...ah.. most thoughtfully provided to our citizens. I am tired of working and feel that I am entitled to laze around and live off of the more productive members who bear the brunt of the costs. I keep a picture of Ted Kennedy on my nightstand and gaze at it nightly fervently hoping he and other government liberals can stop this flow of common sense from pervading into the very fabric of our society. I searched for a picture of Sen Kerry to place beside it but could only find one of Gomer Pyle. That is ok since they are so similar in looks and mental prowess that it should hardly matter.

A Republican has been in office for the majority of my years.
My family is by no means rich, yet lives rather comfortably in a nice suburb, I am currently getting an education and about to enter law school, and no one in my family (immediate, aunts, uncles, cousins) is unemployed or fearing for his/her job. Sounds like with Republicans i have won.

or the 'burbs have sheilded you from reality--thats what they were created for u know

Actually, i go to one of the most liberal universities in America, and have even taken a course that focused on suburban America. For four years, i have heard that "everyone is free to express their own opinions," but have learned that in reality that means that consevatives are free to do so, and then be lectured on why what was said was so wrong... while when a liberal speaks, the lecture is on repsecting opinions. This whole bleeding-heart bias has only fortified my conservative beliefs.

I know what a Republican in the White House has done for my family so far... and frankly, why would i ever want it to stop? So some democrat can come in and take all my money to support some slacker, and guarantee that my children will have less of a chance than i had all in the name of "equality"? I think not.