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Man of the century

29-03-2004, 19:53
Many people marked the 20th century, only a few really achieved iportant goals, evil or good ones.
Kryozerkia
29-03-2004, 19:55
What about Lester B Pearson? Pierre Trudeau?
Aliedel
29-03-2004, 20:02
you want to know who we think is the most important person over a hundred year period and you give us two choices!!!!!!!!!
Aliedel
29-03-2004, 20:07
How about O.J. Simpson he got away with murder and everyone thought he was guilty thats quite an acheivement
Cuneo Island
29-03-2004, 20:08
William Jefferson Clinton.
Elvandair
29-03-2004, 20:08
hitler definitely deserves it
The Great Leveller
29-03-2004, 20:11
How about O.J. Simpson he got away with murder and everyone thought he was guilty thats quite an acheivement

And Stalin didn't?
Aliedel
29-03-2004, 20:12
How about O.J. Simpson he got away with murder and everyone thought he was guilty thats quite an acheivement

And Stalin didn't?

Well it's a different circumstance and when did Lenin ever play football?
Min Min
29-03-2004, 20:13
Elvis Presley was one of the most culturally significant people of the 20th Century.
The Great Leveller
29-03-2004, 20:14
How about O.J. Simpson he got away with murder and everyone thought he was guilty thats quite an acheivement

And Stalin didn't?

Well it's a different circumstance and when did Lenin ever play football?
I'm talking about Stalin dogdamit :twisted: . Anyway I'm sure he had to do something whilst he was in exile.
Incertonia
29-03-2004, 20:14
How about Oppenheimer or Lesley Grove? They certainly had a hand in shaping world politics for the last 60 years or so. They didn't do it alone, of course, but they basically ran the Manhattan Project. That's been more significant in my eyes that anything that Lenin or Hitler did in the long term.
29-03-2004, 20:16
Hitler. From the choices offered.
I'd also would put in Osama.
Cuneo Island
29-03-2004, 20:17
William Jefferson Clinton.
Brittanic States
29-03-2004, 20:19
Hmm if I was picking the man who I think had the single biggest influence on the 20th century it would have to be Gavrilo Princip- hell without him I doubt any of us would have heard of Lenin or Hitler.
Spoffin
29-03-2004, 20:24
Hitler. From the choices offered.
I'd also would put in Osama.In the 20th century?
Sumamba Buwhan
29-03-2004, 20:24
Oprah Winfrey
Lardbuckets
29-03-2004, 20:26
Elvis Presley was one of the most culturally significant people of the 20th Century.

I go with you Min Min, Elvis was right on :!: :!: :!: Love Live The King :!: :!: :!:
Enerica
29-03-2004, 20:27
Thatcher, Churchill Not Hitler or Lenin.
29-03-2004, 20:28
Hitler. From the choices offered.
I'd also would put in Osama.In the 20th century?
Well. The things he did in the 20th, like that little thing in Kenia where preludes to 9/11.
Cuneo Island
29-03-2004, 20:28
Billy Clinton.
Bigga Boobies
29-03-2004, 20:59
Elvis Presley was one of the most culturally significant people of the 20th Century.

I go with you Min Min, Elvis was right on :!: :!: :!: Love Live The King :!: :!: :!:

Elvis was a massive influence in the 20thC, cutting across the cultural divide. As a humanitarian, Elvis was hugely underrated. Elvis we love you :wink:
Catholic Europe
30-03-2004, 17:24
Hmm, I would have to say Lenin. He was certainely the better person, IMO.
Sumamba Buwhan
30-03-2004, 17:31
Robert Anton Wilson
The Great Leveller
30-03-2004, 17:38
Robert Anton Wilson

What's wrong with Haggard (sp?) Celine?
Bodies Without Organs
30-03-2004, 17:41
Haggard (sp?) Celine?

Assuming that you mean neither Rider H Haggard nor Louis Ferdinand Celine, ITYM Hagbard Celine.
30-03-2004, 17:43
Hitler was a bumbling buffoon. He build and lost an empire in only a few short years. That's some accomplishment. :roll:
The Great Leveller
30-03-2004, 17:45
Haggard (sp?) Celine?

Assuming that you mean neither Rider H Haggard nor Louis Ferdinand Celine, ITYM Hagbard Celine.

:oops: It's been awhile since I read the book
Faerie Realms
30-03-2004, 17:48
Hitler was a bumbling buffoon. He build and lost an empire in only a few short years. That's some accomplishment. :roll:
Hmm, yes. "Hey, you know that invading Russia thing that worked out so well for Napoleon? That was fun, let's do it again!" And let's not even talk about rejecting Einstein's physics (and thus losing a chance at the atomic bomb) just because he has Jewish blood in there somewhere.

...Not, of course, that we're not grateful for his idoiocy.
Sumamba Buwhan
30-03-2004, 17:55
Haggard (sp?) Celine?

Assuming that you mean neither Rider H Haggard nor Louis Ferdinand Celine, ITYM Hagbard Celine.

:oops: It's been awhile since I read the book

I don't know who you are talking about. Is this writer related to R.A. Wilson somehow?
30-03-2004, 18:03
Big Jim P

8)
Cuneo Island
30-03-2004, 18:05
Billy Clinton.
30-03-2004, 18:07
Billy Clinton.

Slick willie? :lol: :lol: :lol:

*think Iwouldn't do it if I were prez?* :D 8)

Jim
Summer Casket Party
30-03-2004, 18:17
The Finnish Marshall Mannerheim, thanks to him we withstanded the might of the Soviet's
APChem
30-03-2004, 18:19
Albert Einstein :!:
Collaboration
30-03-2004, 21:55
In addition to Einstein and Gandhi:

Nikolai Tesla
W.E.B. DuBois
Thomas J. Watson
Norman Borlaug
Steve Jobs
CanuckHeaven
31-03-2004, 02:56
What about Lester B Pearson? Pierre Trudeau?
Certainly those 2 would be high on my list.

How about John F. Kennedy, Winston Churchill, Nelson Mandela?
Johnistan
31-03-2004, 03:03
Bobby Watson
Purly Euclid
31-03-2004, 03:08
How about Oppenheimer or Lesley Grove? They certainly had a hand in shaping world politics for the last 60 years or so. They didn't do it alone, of course, but they basically ran the Manhattan Project. That's been more significant in my eyes that anything that Lenin or Hitler did in the long term.
However, Groves only had the assignment to oversee it, and Openheimer really only directed the scientific angle of it. By using that rationale, FDR would have to be the most influential. However, it was developed with the urging of Albert Einstein. He's already the Man of the Century according to Time magazine.
Purly Euclid
31-03-2004, 03:09
Men like Ben Franklin and Leonardo Da Vinci get my pick as most influential because they did everything, and were good at it. Not many people like them existed in the 20th century. However, IMHO, the most influential entity of this century, or any century, is God.
CanuckHeaven
31-03-2004, 03:19
However, IMHO, the most influential entity of this century, or any century, is God.
AMEN
Presleyites
31-03-2004, 07:57
Elvis Presley was one of the most culturally significant people of the 20th Century.

I go with you Min Min, Elvis was right on :!: :!: :!: Long Live The King :!: :!: :!:

Elvis was a massive influence in the 20thC, cutting across the cultural divide. As a humanitarian, Elvis was hugely underrated. Elvis we love you :wink:


It was estimated that Elvis gave away over half of his vast earnings to charity during his lifetime. He didn't do for recognition because he insisted it be done in relative secrecy. He didn't do for tax consessions. He did it because he was a great humanitarian. One of the finest entertainers the world has ever known and his loss is the World's loss.
Smeagol-Gollum
31-03-2004, 10:47
However, IMHO, the most influential entity of this century, or any century, is God.
AMEN

Oh yeah?
What's he (or quite possibly she) done lately then?
And don't go quoting "acts of God" to me, that's just a feeble excuse used by insurance companies.
Vitania
31-03-2004, 11:08
In addition to Einstein and Gandhi:

Nikolai Tesla
W.E.B. DuBois
Thomas J. Watson
Norman Borlaug
Steve Jobs

Oh good, someone mentioned Tesla.
Marineris Colonies
31-03-2004, 11:15
I vote for these guys

http://en.wikipedia.org/upload/2/2a/NormandyLST.jpeg

( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Normandy )
31-03-2004, 11:18
I'd have to say... Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
31-03-2004, 11:27
I personaly think i deserve the vote. 100% influential and nobody knows i exist :P
Nazi Deutschland Axis
31-03-2004, 12:15
No prizes if you can guess who I voted for :D
Genaia
31-03-2004, 12:18
This is one of the problems with a two party system.
Liberal Monsters
31-03-2004, 12:18
No prizes if you can guess who I voted for :D

Batman ???
Bigga Boobies
31-03-2004, 15:41
No prizes if you can guess who I voted for :D

Batman ???

No silly, he's voted for Elvis :!:
Cuneo Island
31-03-2004, 15:42
Bill Clinton.
Bigga Boobies
31-03-2004, 15:44
No, it's definitely Elvis :!:
Filamai
31-03-2004, 15:57
Man of the century...My vote goes to Margaret Thatcher.

The only elected man ever to shaft all of Britain while wearing a dress.
Presleyism
31-03-2004, 16:00
No, it's definitely Elvis :!:

I concur. Elvis Presley was the man of the century!!!!
Xx-Rainbow-xx
31-03-2004, 16:02
Man of the century...My vote goes to Margaret Thatcher.

The only elected man ever to shaft all of Britain while wearing a dress.

well she certainly had more balls than most of our other Prime Ministers
Cax
31-03-2004, 16:03
OK, let's compare and contrast:

Lenin: Helped defeat a corrupt, oppressing government, led his people to slightly more freedom and benefits, arranged an Industrial Revolution, something which normally takes hundreds of years, inside a couple of decades. The work he started in Russia meant Russia later SLAUGHTERED Hitler's forces on the Eastern front. BUT his ruthlessness did kill thousands of people through overwork.

Hitler: Dragged Europe into war, causing massive damage to all sides, killed millions of innocent people, generally evil and (mostly) responsible for what I think is the most reprehensible single thing ever, the Holocaust. BUT....umm...gave Germany the role of pariah for decades?...No, that's bad too...um....

Come on Americans (who I believe most people here are), take an objective look. The Cold War is OVER.
Stoned Bunnies
31-03-2004, 16:17
Yo, Elvis never killed anyone. At least I don't think he did!
Clappi
31-03-2004, 16:20
Man of the century...My vote goes to Margaret Thatcher.

The only elected man ever to shaft all of Britain while wearing a dress.

well she certainly had more balls than most of our other Prime Ministers

I think the phrase is, "she was more nuts than...". Seriously, a fixed belief in one's own total rectitude, coupled with an often severely altered mental state, are hardly positive attributes in a leader. Still, it's all whisky under the bridge; she's just one more alcoholic old ratbag on the slippery slopes of senility now. Sic transit gloria Maggy, and good riddance too I say.

Back to the person of the century: Einstein, probably. Or maybe Fleming: who knows how many millions are alive today thanks to his casual approach to lab cleanliness?
Tumaniaa
31-03-2004, 16:27
CanuckHeaven
01-04-2004, 05:54
However, IMHO, the most influential entity of this century, or any century, is God.
AMEN

Oh yeah?
What's he (or quite possibly she) done lately then?
And don't go quoting "acts of God" to me, that's just a feeble excuse used by insurance companies.
Everyone has a bit of God sense in them. In some it is very deeply hidden. For everyone that has fallen deeply in love (not lust), or shed tears of joy (birth of their baby), are expressing their God sense. For God is love!!
Tuesday Heights
01-04-2004, 06:37
Hitler.
Min Min
02-04-2004, 11:57
ELVIS
02-04-2004, 13:20
Lenin had a greater effect.

Hitler was was a reaction to the same things happening. But Lenin changed everything.
Tumaniaa
02-04-2004, 20:06
Alexander Fleming
Collaboration
02-04-2004, 22:57
However, IMHO, the most influential entity of this century, or any century, is God.
AMEN

Oh yeah?
What's he (or quite possibly she) done lately then?
And don't go quoting "acts of God" to me, that's just a feeble excuse used by insurance companies.
Everyone has a bit of God sense in them. In some it is very deeply hidden. For everyone that has fallen deeply in love (not lust), or shed tears of joy (birth of their baby), are expressing their God sense. For God is love!!

Nicely put; sounds eastern.

Hindu?
Presleyism
02-04-2004, 23:02
ELVIS

Elvis gets my vote too
Purly Euclid
03-04-2004, 03:12
However, IMHO, the most influential entity of this century, or any century, is God.
AMEN

Oh yeah?
What's he (or quite possibly she) done lately then?
And don't go quoting "acts of God" to me, that's just a feeble excuse used by insurance companies.
Everyone has a bit of God sense in them. In some it is very deeply hidden. For everyone that has fallen deeply in love (not lust), or shed tears of joy (birth of their baby), are expressing their God sense. For God is love!!

Nicely put; sounds eastern.

Hindu?
No, you can find it written all over the Bible. It's just been a distorted message.
03-04-2004, 03:13
Tasman Blackvain
Salishe
03-04-2004, 17:50
I'd have to go with Elvis..changed a whole new outlook on music, and the man had the uncanny knack for driving women insane with lust..now what man can't in all honesty say he wouldn't want that kind of power..lol
imported_Joe Stalin
03-04-2004, 18:13
Ghandi or Nelson Mandela. They showed us the best we could be.
Eagleland
03-04-2004, 18:13
Baron von Holstein.
Chesterjay
03-04-2004, 20:46
Bill O'Reilly beats all! At first I voted for Bush & Blair but now realize it should be Bush, Blair, & Bill. :D