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The topic(s) of debate today is/are: -

How to improve the economy and illiminate the deficit?
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Should the use of landmines be allowed in battles?
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Is the Atkins Diet worth while?

Please say why and enjoy the debate.

If this becomes popular I may get to the point where I change the debate topic each day, and we can begin on a new debate, from here we can discuss and solve the worlds problems, ha ha.

All Welcome

Please feel free also to suggest the next topic.


Results of Discussion

Should drugs, in general, be legalised?
A definition of drugs as: -
A narcotic that is not medicinal and prescribed by a doctor, or legal like coffee, tobacco and alcohol, which in ingested through oral means, inhaled and/or injested into the veins with a needle.
That the legalisation of drugs may stop their use by organised crime for raising funds, however their legalisation may give businesses an economic stranglehold over the addicted.


Topics in Waiting

Not all drugs.

There has to be some limitation.

All harmless hallucigenics like LSA and tribal ritualistic drugs, should be legalised - we already have sensory deprivation tanks. This would just be an alternative to lying in one of these tanks as your mind takes a wild roller coaster ride.

I do believe that marijuana should be legalised. We've legalised tobacco and alcohol...

All Welcome

Even me? Anyway. drugs are bad not because of what they temporarily do to you but the long term effects it has on your life eg. the ability to do your job and your cash flow rapidly deterates when you go into drugs because you spend every penny on the next fix.
If governmeants allowed it ppl would think its ok to take drugs and that there not that bad after all. Which is wrong :x

I don't think any that are likely to cause a dangerous addiction or damage your health should really be legalised, including tobacco, but I really don't like smoking, however where to draw the line, should coffee be legal as it contains a drug?

I don't think any that are likely to cause a dangerous addiction or damage your health should really be legalised, including tobacco, but I really don't like smoking, however where to draw the line, should coffee be legal as it contains a drug?

There are so many difference degrees of drugs these days.

Coffee has never been really considered a drug so much as a cause for many people really high-strung (and if with sugar, make people unusually hyper).

I agree. Dangerous/harmful drugs should not be legalised. The harmless ones should be regulated.

All Welcome

Even me? Anyway. drugs are bad not because of what they temporarily do to you but the long term effects it has on your life eg. the ability to do your job and your cash flow rapidly deterates when you go into drugs because you spend every penny on the next fix.
If governmeants allowed it ppl would think its ok to take drugs and that there not that bad after all. Which is wrong :x

Even you. I agree, there is also the affect on your physical health, which can deteriorate, and that can be very serious especially if your cash flow drops at the same time. It can destroy a person and leave tehm a shell of their former self. To coin a phrase.

I wouldn't advocate legalising drugs which are harmful in the long run . . . even tho marijuana costs 5x the amt of gold per pound, dealers and cartels would still spike prices if they were legalized. And even though it may not kill the user(s), the fact that they are addicted would put them in an economic vice with dealers.

Coffee has never been really considered a drug so much as a cause for many people really high-strung (and if with sugar, make people unusually hyper

Well caffine is a naturally occuring substance, unlike marijuana and cocaine, which have to be chemically extracted from plants. Though people are becoming to dependent upon it.


Idea for the Next Debate
How to restore the economy and eliminate budget deficit

I did not know that. In which case, as it seems rarer that people become strongly addicted to caffine, it is obvious that anything to which people can become very addited to should not be legalised otherwise it could lead to them being put into an economic vice as you say. So where do video games come into that?


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Thankyou, that is now the next topic.

I did not know that. In which case, as it seems rarer that people become strongly addicted to caffine, it is obvious that anything to which people can become very addited to should not be legalised otherwise it could lead to them being put into an economic vice as you say. So where do video games come into that?


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Thankyou, that is now the next topic.

Well, the coffee beans can be treated so that some have less caffeine than others. In the case of decaffinated, this is so. Especially with the Swiss Water process. Anyway, that is off-topic, so, I'll stop hijacking the thread and get back on topic.

I think video games aren't addictive so much as they provde a mental release from life and people submerge themselves in it as a kind of drug. Ok, then, they are addictive.

Anyway, they are a new kind of drug because of the grip it has the mental desire for a release from reality.

I did not know that. In which case, as it seems rarer that people become strongly addicted to caffine, it is obvious that anything to which people can become very addited to should not be legalised otherwise it could lead to them being put into an economic vice as you say. So where do video games come into that?


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Thankyou, that is now the next topic.

Well, the coffee beans can be treated so that some have less caffeine than others. In the case of decaffinated, this is so. Especially with the Swiss Water process. Anyway, that is off-topic, so, I'll stop hijacking the thread and get back on topic.

I think video games aren't addictive so much as they provde a mental release from life and people submerge themselves in it as a kind of drug. Ok, then, they are addictive.

Anyway, they are a new kind of drug because of the grip it has the mental desire for a release from reality.

I did not know that. In which case, as it seems rarer that people become strongly addicted to caffine, it is obvious that anything to which people can become very addited to should not be legalised otherwise it could lead to them being put into an economic vice as you say. So where do video games come into that?


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Thankyou, that is now the next topic.

Well, the coffee beans can be treated so that some have less caffeine than others. In the case of decaffinated, this is so. Especially with the Swiss Water process. Anyway, that is off-topic, so, I'll stop hijacking the thread and get back on topic.

I think video games aren't addictive so much as they provde a mental release from life and people submerge themselves in it as a kind of drug. Ok, then, they are addictive.

Anyway, they are a new kind of drug because of the grip it has the mental desire for a release from reality.

I did not know that. In which case, as it seems rarer that people become strongly addicted to caffine, it is obvious that anything to which people can become very addited to should not be legalised otherwise it could lead to them being put into an economic vice as you say. So where do video games come into that?


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Thankyou, that is now the next topic.

Well, the coffee beans can be treated so that some have less caffeine than others. In the case of decaffinated, this is so. Especially with the Swiss Water process. Anyway, that is off-topic, so, I'll stop hijacking the thread and get back on topic.

I think video games aren't addictive so much as they provde a mental release from life and people submerge themselves in it as a kind of drug. Ok, then, they are addictive.

Anyway, they are a new kind of drug because of the grip it has the mental desire for a release from reality.

Sorry for the multiple posts, but the server was being evil.

I did not know that. In which case, as it seems rarer that people become strongly addicted to caffine, it is obvious that anything to which people can become very addited to should not be legalised otherwise it could lead to them being put into an economic vice as you say. So where do video games come into that?


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Thankyou, that is now the next topic.

Well, the coffee beans can be treated so that some have less caffeine than others. In the case of decaffinated, this is so. Especially with the Swiss Water process. Anyway, that is off-topic, so, I'll stop hijacking the thread and get back on topic.

I think video games aren't addictive so much as they provde a mental release from life and people submerge themselves in it as a kind of drug. Ok, then, they are addictive.

Anyway, they are a new kind of drug because of the grip it has the mental desire for a release from reality.

Hmm, In which case lots of things can be described as a drug if we are talking about it a something that causes an addiction. Maybe we should come up witha standard definition of a drug.

Hmm, In which case lots of things can be described as a drug if we are talking about it a something that causes an addiction. Maybe we should come up witha standard definition of a drug.

Perhaps...

A narcotic that is not medicinal and prescribed by a doctor, or legal like coffee, tobacco and alcohol, which in ingested through oral means, inhaled and/or injested into the veins with a needle.

Hmm, In which case lots of things can be described as a drug if we are talking about it a something that causes an addiction. Maybe we should come up witha standard definition of a drug.

Perhaps...

A narcotic that is not medicinal and prescribed by a doctor, or legal like coffee, tobacco and alcohol, which in ingested through oral means, inhaled and/or injested into the veins with a needle.

Weed and hash should be legal.
Wait a sec...they are. :D

Hmm, In which case lots of things can be described as a drug if we are talking about it a something that causes an addiction. Maybe we should come up witha standard definition of a drug.

Perhaps...

A narcotic that is not medicinal and prescribed by a doctor, or legal like coffee, tobacco and alcohol, which in ingested through oral means, inhaled and/or injested into the veins with a needle.

Brilliant, I intend to put that up at the top as our results for this discussion.

I fail to see a reason why all drugs should not be legalised as a matter of principle.

I fail to see a reason why all drugs should not be legalised as a matter of principle.Ditto. Also economic reasons, freeing up police officers and prisions for real crimes, etc etc

But at the moment it is a real crime, you could also stop murder being a real crime. Surely if it is something that can destroy peoples lives, and be a danger to children there should be some restrictions on it.

Well caffine is a naturally occuring substance, unlike marijuana and cocaine, which have to be chemically extracted from plants. Though people are becoming to dependent upon it.

You've never seen weed have you? You grow it, you dry it and you cut the buds off, it's as natural as tobacco, and far less dangerous.

Studies have shown marijuana leaves contain more tar then tobacco, but umm... who smokes leaves? Buds contain most of the THC and almost no tar.

I think all drugs should be legalised, regulated and sold in stores. If you can grow marijuana or coca or opium on your farm like anyother crop, and if you could buy your marijuana, cocaine, morphine or heroin at Wal Mart or a head shop or whatever, how would organized crime be able to profit off of it anymore then they could from alcohol and tobacco products?

*Applauds him or her.*

A debate not involving gays, Iraq, or the election!

Organised crime will probably always find a way to get funds. However at least if drugs are illegal we are stopping a potentially very harmful market opening up.

Organised crime will probably always find a way to get funds. However at least if drugs are illegal we are stopping a potentially very harmful market opening up.

Organised crime will probably always find a way to get funds. However at least if drugs are illegal we are stopping a potentially very harmful market opening up.

Like how they profit off of legal alcohol sales today? If recreational drugs and prostitution were legalised they would face a massive loss in potential funds.

And protection rackets don't work so well when there is stable law enforcement.

All this adds up to crumbling criminal organizations.

*Applauds him or her.*

A debate not involving gays, Iraq, or the election!

Him, thank-you. It all depends on what people choose to debate here. hinking about that, time to switch, we are now switching to the budget debate.

SWITCH NOW

I do believe that there are several distinctions that should be made. mature adults (18 or 21 if one must choose) should be able to obtain any drug, naturally occuring or pharmacutical with out prescription or any restriction beyond one. That restriction is that they must be given information/warning as to dosage and possible effects of the drug in plain language and sign a waiver releasing the pharmacist, drug manufacturer, drug source from all legal responsibility. If that same adult goes home and downs an entire bottle of barbituates or whatever... he or she is an adult and responsible for his or her own actions and the consequences that follow.

There are drugs and there are drugs. Items such as pot, hash (pot resins and a binder), and other naturally occurring substances (yes this includes 'shrooms and peyote) should not be regulated... period. Those drugs that are the products of manufacturing or processing (yep even cocaine which is extracted from the plant and purified as heroin is from opium) should only be available through licensed distributers (see above) and subject to the same regulations.

In the main, naturally occuring drugs in their natural state are rarely highly addictive. It is those drugs 'improved' by man that require the most caution and offer the most danger.

Abusive people will be abusive people, if it is not drugs it will show up with alcohol, overeating, etc. Agreed that some narcotics are addictive by their very nature but here again, an adult should be responsible enough to make the choice, monitor and control the use or live with the consequences. I also do not believe that the government owes these people anything. If there is to be a government 'assistance' program (for you lace drawered liberals out there) it should not be one of feeding, clothing, housing and then providing supplimental drugs to help wean people from the addiction. It should be one that addresses the problem directly (stop it!), support (learn to live without it), and maintenance (get on with your life).

Thank-you

and Thankyou to everyone who took part in the drugs discussion.

That discussion is now finished.

The new discussion is about the budget.

Thank-you

and Thankyou to everyone who took part in the drugs discussion.

That discussion is now finished.

The new discussion is about the budget.

*notices the room clear out*

Thank-you

and Thankyou to everyone who took part in the drugs discussion.

That discussion is now finished.

The new discussion is about the budget.

*notices the room clear out*

Scary isn't it. Well I will begin.

The deficit at the moment is only $500,000,000 that is only 5% of GDP, there has been deficits of 6%. Therefore this is not that bad.

I may regret this but, the drugs debate can continue too

Let's see if it works having too debates running.

How about this.

The USA should legalise all drugs to help balance the budget?

I would like to bring up a next new topic entitled:

" Should Nationstates adopt the policies of the Grassroots Fighters for Nationstates Future?"

Thanks.
GERNY:
President of Grassroots fighters for Nationstates future

I would like to bring up a next new topic entitled:

" Should Nationstates adopt the policies of the Grassroots Fighters for Nationstates Future?"

Thanks.
GERNY:
President of Grassroots fighters for Nationstates future

I'll have to think about that as an idea for the next topic. I can't help but think you are going far too far on this though.

I like the idea of legalising drugs to balance the budget. lol.
There are probably better ways to do it though. Like cutting spending. But what should go?

How many people are there in this "Grassroots Fighters for Nationstates Future?" "

I would like to bring up a next new topic entitled:

" Should Nationstates adopt the policies of the Grassroots Fighters for Nationstates Future?"

Thanks.
GERNY:
President of Grassroots fighters for Nationstates future

I'll have to think about that as an idea for the next topic. I can't help but think you are going far too far on this though.

I like the idea of legalising drugs to balance the budget. lol.
There are probably better ways to do it though. Like cutting spending. But what should go?
All I want is an educated and thoughtful discussion about this not a discussion where people post porn and say i had the dirty it with my cat.

I would like to bring up a next new topic entitled:

" Should Nationstates adopt the policies of the Grassroots Fighters for Nationstates Future?"

Thanks.
GERNY:
President of Grassroots fighters for Nationstates future

This has been debated to death. The answer being an overwhelming NO!.

Vox populi est vox dei (?)



Any way to justify my position on the buget/drugs. The US government could make a killing off the tax revenue of legalising drugs, or at least those with little side effects and chance of addiction (eg Cannabis, LSD, extasy, mushrooms etc.)

How many people are there in this "Grassroots Fighters for Nationstates Future?" "
About 5 at the moment. We are really grassroots

How many people are there in this "Grassroots Fighters for Nationstates Future?" "
About 5 at the moment. We are really grassroots

Who?

You
the boy who cried wolf
the cat
the pillow
and the metaphysical HQ

I would like to bring up a next new topic entitled:

" Should Nationstates adopt the policies of the Grassroots Fighters for Nationstates Future?"

Thanks.
GERNY:
President of Grassroots fighters for Nationstates future

This has been debated to death. The answer being an overwhelming NO!.

Vox populi est vox dei (?)



Any way to justify my position on the buget/drugs. The US government could make a killing off the tax revenue of legalising drugs, or at least those with little side effects and chance of addiction (eg Cannabis, LSD, extasy, mushrooms etc.)
Thats your position but others are afraid to come out and voice in a civilized manner because they see how I get called a child molester and animal rapist.I just want a clean debate.

How many people are there in this "Grassroots Fighters for Nationstates Future?" "
About 5 at the moment. We are really grassroots

Who?

You
the boy who cried wolf
the cat
the pillow
and the metaphysical HQ
Thats what I'm talking about you say no yet you can never back it up without saying stuff completly off topic. No we have 5 nations of different people.

How many people are there in this "Grassroots Fighters for Nationstates Future?" "
About 5 at the moment. We are really grassroots

Who?

You
the boy who cried wolf
the cat
the pillow
and the metaphysical HQ
Thats what I'm talking about you say no yet you can never back it up without saying stuff completly off topic. No we have 5 nations of different people.

Hmm, this thread is going off topic, but seen as it is: -

What are your policies so they can be debated here?

Any way to justify my position on the buget/drugs. The US government could make a killing off the tax revenue of legalising drugs, or at least those with little side effects and chance of addiction (eg Cannabis, LSD, extasy, mushrooms etc.)
Thats your position but others are afraid to come out and voice in a civilized manner because they see how I get called a child molester and animal rapist.I just want a clean debate.[/quote]

To be fair to Enrica, debate his question concerning the budget/drugs.

Hmm, this thread is going off topic, but seen as it is: -

What are your policies so they can be debated here?
1. Deletion of all dead topics
2. Deletion of nations that spam, flame, etc. without warning.
3. Post limit 10 posts per day in each forum (10 for technical, 10 for general, etc)
4. More mods to enforce role playing etiquette

Any way to justify my position on the buget/drugs. The US government could make a killing off the tax revenue of legalising drugs, or at least those with little side effects and chance of addiction (eg Cannabis, LSD, extasy, mushrooms etc.)
Thats your position but others are afraid to come out and voice in a civilized manner because they see how I get called a child molester and animal rapist.I just want a clean debate.

To be fair to Enrica, debate his question concerning the budget/drugs.[/quote]
I just posed a possible future question.

Thats what I'm talking about you say no yet you can never back it up without saying stuff completly off topic. No we have 5 nations of different people.

i) I have no idea what you are saying so I make assumptions.

ii)We have to say things like that as you have produced no evidence to the contrary. No we cannot back it up, we make assumptions based on previous posts

iii)You are a hypocrite so you should we listen to you?

3. Post limit 10 posts per day in each forum (10 for technical, 10 for general, etc)

Hypocrite, see here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=677243)

Ok we can debate both topics, that is what this thread is here for: -

In regards to your policies, when NS upgrades to the new server it is less likely to matter that people can post a lot each day, more Mods hmm I somehow don't know if that will happen, in any case you would need a large amount of Mods to control everything.

Thats what I'm talking about you say no yet you can never back it up without saying stuff completly off topic. No we have 5 nations of different people.

i) I have no idea what you are saying so I make assumptions.

ii)We have to say things like that as you have produced no evidence to the contrary. No we cannot back it up, we make assumptions based on previous posts

iii)You are a hypocrite so you should we listen to you?

In repsonse to i): i am talking about my organization and its ideas.
In response to ii): I have produced a study thought how posts limits will make the forums more efficient, etc..
Respoe to iii): I defend my reputation.

Yes, you all must endorse Gerny's group! Allow Gestapo raids of deletion on anyone who doesn't talk about "kid-friendly" subjects! Remember, he's limiting your posts so you can say more! Go Gerny! Taking away your ability to say things for free speech! How can you not endorse a "72 year old" man who conducts "respectable" studies on everyone except you!
*Cough*
Gerny, you said you were going to kill yourself last night because other people on the forums depressed you. Aren't you done yet?

Ok we can debate both topics, that is what this thread is here for: -

In regards to your policies, when NS upgrades to the new server it is less likely to matter that people can post a lot each day, more Mods hmm I somehow don't know if that will happen, in any case you would need a large amount of Mods to control everything.
We need people mods not big shots,

Yes, you all must endorse Gerny's group! Allow Gestapo raids of deletion on anyone who doesn't talk about "kid-friendly" subjects! Remember, he's limiting your posts so you can say more! Go Gerny! Taking away your ability to say things for free speech! How can you not endorse a "72 year old" man who conducts "respectable" studies on everyone except you!
*Cough*
Gerny, you said you were going to kill yourself last night because other people on the forums depressed you. Aren't you done yet?
No but you put me through deep depprseion hope your happy. And yes limiting posts would help this place be better and "family friendly" as we all say.

*Please don't feed the trolls*

~Public Service Announcement

Yes, you all must endorse Gerny's group! Allow Gestapo raids of deletion on anyone who doesn't talk about "kid-friendly" subjects! Remember, he's limiting your posts so you can say more! Go Gerny! Taking away your ability to say things for free speech! How can you not endorse a "72 year old" man who conducts "respectable" studies on everyone except you!
*Cough*
Gerny, you said you were going to kill yourself last night because other people on the forums depressed you. Aren't you done yet?
Yes heres how the studies were conducted, poll 100 nations, take that times by number of nations and we get ourpercent, simple math! Most likely you weren't polled.

*Please don't feed the trolls*

~Public Service Announcement
Please debate freely and in a a good manner, thanks.
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

And yes limiting posts would help this place be better and "family friendly" as we all say.

More hypocracy...

"Gerny's national animal is the diarrhea, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the poop."

Ok we can debate both topics, that is what this thread is here for: -

In regards to your policies, when NS upgrades to the new server it is less likely to matter that people can post a lot each day, more Mods hmm I somehow don't know if that will happen, in any case you would need a large amount of Mods to control everything.
We need people mods not big shots,

"Big Shots" - Be careful what you say.

What do you mean people mods?

And yes limiting posts would help this place be better and "family friendly" as we all say.

More hypocracy...

"Gerny's national animal is the diarrhea, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the poop."
kind sir our organization ficuses on the forums.

What if my 10 posts were all about drugs, violence, politics, rape, religious cults, and pedophilia?

Your logic is... Nonexistent.
I don't want to be family friendly. The site is for non-children as well. It's based on a book involving murder, death, suicide, and some sexuality.

Ok we can debate both topics, that is what this thread is here for: -

In regards to your policies, when NS upgrades to the new server it is less likely to matter that people can post a lot each day, more Mods hmm I somehow don't know if that will happen, in any case you would need a large amount of Mods to control everything.
We need people mods not big shots,

"Big Shots" - Be careful what you say.

What do you mean people mods?
I'm not afraid to say it, after all we are about free speech. Normal mods not mods selected by big shots but mods chosen by thepeople for the people. Example: Mod posted porn, nothing done about it, if one of us posted porn we would be deleted fatser than you could say "reform in the forums".

Yes, you all must endorse Gerny's group! Allow Gestapo raids of deletion on anyone who doesn't talk about "kid-friendly" subjects! Remember, he's limiting your posts so you can say more! Go Gerny! Taking away your ability to say things for free speech! How can you not endorse a "72 year old" man who conducts "respectable" studies on everyone except you!
*Cough*
Gerny, you said you were going to kill yourself last night because other people on the forums depressed you. Aren't you done yet?
Yes heres how the studies were conducted, poll 100 nations, take that times by number of nations and we get ourpercent, simple math! Most likely you weren't polled.
That's not accurate at all. There are 600,000 nations on NS.

Ok we can debate both topics, that is what this thread is here for: -

In regards to your policies, when NS upgrades to the new server it is less likely to matter that people can post a lot each day, more Mods hmm I somehow don't know if that will happen, in any case you would need a large amount of Mods to control everything.
We need people mods not big shots,

"Big Shots" - Be careful what you say.

What do you mean people mods?
I'm not afraid to say it, after all we are about free speech. Normal mods not mods selected by big shots but mods chosen by thepeople for the people.
No, you're about "good speech." Free speech includes non family friendly topics.

In repsonse to i): i am talking about my organization and its ideas.
In response to ii): I have produced a study thought how posts limits will make the forums more efficient, etc..

You haven't produced anything, to defend your opinions, just made up numbers and 'people'
Respoe to iii): I defend my reputation.

Ahh, so you are allowed to defend yourself, but others aren't allowed to critisize you?

Welcome: -

How to improve the economy and illiminate the deficit?


Dunno the last thing about economy, but here's how you illuminate the deficit:
1. Set up some floodlights,
or
2. Tell your citizens to pull out their lighters, lift 'em up and wave 'em like it's a rock concert. - Surely they'll spot the deficit somewhere,
or
3. Irradiate the deficit until it glows in the dark,
or
4. Napalm. Both illiminates and eliminates.

Yes, you all must endorse Gerny's group! Allow Gestapo raids of deletion on anyone who doesn't talk about "kid-friendly" subjects! Remember, he's limiting your posts so you can say more! Go Gerny! Taking away your ability to say things for free speech! How can you not endorse a "72 year old" man who conducts "respectable" studies on everyone except you!
*Cough*
Gerny, you said you were going to kill yourself last night because other people on the forums depressed you. Aren't you done yet?
Yes heres how the studies were conducted, poll 100 nations, take that times by number of nations and we get ourpercent, simple math! Most likely you weren't polled.
That's not accurate at all. There are 600,000 nations on NS.
times our results by 60000 and put that in percentage 50% kids 50% adults

I think we can probably all agree, there are certain things common sense dictates that you do not post on. It just some people don't think.

What do you mean by people Mods?

In repsonse to i): i am talking about my organization and its ideas.
In response to ii): I have produced a study thought how posts limits will make the forums more efficient, etc..

You haven't produced anything, to defend your opinions, just made up numbers and 'people'
Respoe to iii): I defend my reputation.

Ahh, so you are allowed to defend yourself, but others aren't allowed to critisize you?
Yeah critize me in a good manner not saying I marry cats

I think we can probably all agree, there are certain things common sense dictates that you do not post on. It just some people don't think.

What do you mean by people Mods?
Correct!!! People mods normal mods elected by people. as i said before.

Ok we can debate both topics, that is what this thread is here for: -

In regards to your policies, when NS upgrades to the new server it is less likely to matter that people can post a lot each day, more Mods hmm I somehow don't know if that will happen, in any case you would need a large amount of Mods to control everything.
We need people mods not big shots,

"Big Shots" - Be careful what you say.

What do you mean people mods?
I'm not afraid to say it, after all we are about free speech. Normal mods not mods selected by big shots but mods chosen by thepeople for the people.
No, you're about "good speech." Free speech includes non family friendly topics.
The family unit is falling lets start where it hurts most: the internet.

Yes, you all must endorse Gerny's group! Allow Gestapo raids of deletion on anyone who doesn't talk about "kid-friendly" subjects! Remember, he's limiting your posts so you can say more! Go Gerny! Taking away your ability to say things for free speech! How can you not endorse a "72 year old" man who conducts "respectable" studies on everyone except you!
*Cough*
Gerny, you said you were going to kill yourself last night because other people on the forums depressed you. Aren't you done yet?
Yes heres how the studies were conducted, poll 100 nations, take that times by number of nations and we get ourpercent, simple math! Most likely you weren't polled.
That's not accurate at all. There are 600,000 nations on NS.
times our results by 60000 and put that in percentage 50% kids 50% adults
Newsflash! That's not accurate! The world does not work in perfect ratios, and statistics don't apply everywhere. As "vietnam veteran", one would think you'd know that.

Dude, Gerny, we have enough mods, but you need to tell THEM instead of posting a million "This guy did this" posts in the general forum. There is such thing as the moderation forum, and i know you know how to use it. Instead of complaining to the people "making" the problem, maybe you should complain to the people who can actually do something.

In summary, stop clogging this forum with useless posts! Tell the people who care, on the Moderation forum!

Yes, you all must endorse Gerny's group! Allow Gestapo raids of deletion on anyone who doesn't talk about "kid-friendly" subjects! Remember, he's limiting your posts so you can say more! Go Gerny! Taking away your ability to say things for free speech! How can you not endorse a "72 year old" man who conducts "respectable" studies on everyone except you!
*Cough*
Gerny, you said you were going to kill yourself last night because other people on the forums depressed you. Aren't you done yet?
Yes heres how the studies were conducted, poll 100 nations, take that times by number of nations and we get ourpercent, simple math! Most likely you weren't polled.
That's not accurate at all. There are 600,000 nations on NS.
times our results by 60000 and put that in percentage 50% kids 50% adults
Newsflash! That's not accurate! The world does not work in perfect ratios, and statistics don't apply everywhere. As "vietnam veteran", one would think you'd know that.
i know sonny but thats what our studies found, that we believe.

I think we can probably all agree, there are certain things common sense dictates that you do not post on. It just some people don't think.

What do you mean by people Mods?
Correct!!! People mods normal mods elected by people. as i said before.

That brings many risks: -

The best people wouldn't get the job.
People would use puppets to vote.
It illiminates the right of the server owner (MB) to choose.

Those are just some problems

I think we can probably all agree, there are certain things common sense dictates that you do not post on. It just some people don't think.

What do you mean by people Mods?
Correct!!! People mods normal mods elected by people. as i said before.

That brings many risks: -

The best people wouldn't get the job.
People would use puppets to vote.
It illiminates the right of the server owner (MB) to choose.

Those are just some problems

Feel free to suggest other topics as well.

Yes, you all must endorse Gerny's group! Allow Gestapo raids of deletion on anyone who doesn't talk about "kid-friendly" subjects! Remember, he's limiting your posts so you can say more! Go Gerny! Taking away your ability to say things for free speech! How can you not endorse a "72 year old" man who conducts "respectable" studies on everyone except you!
*Cough*
Gerny, you said you were going to kill yourself last night because other people on the forums depressed you. Aren't you done yet?
Yes heres how the studies were conducted, poll 100 nations, take that times by number of nations and we get ourpercent, simple math! Most likely you weren't polled.
That's not accurate at all. There are 600,000 nations on NS.
times our results by 60000 and put that in percentage 50% kids 50% adults
Newsflash! That's not accurate! The world does not work in perfect ratios, and statistics don't apply everywhere. As "vietnam veteran", one would think you'd know that.
i know sonny but thats what our studies found, that we believe.
Don't you ever call me sonny. I am not your child.

Guess what, if you don't survey every nation, you're wrong!

Now stop making every elderly person, vietnam vet, and normal human being look like an idiot and go back to playing with your cat.

I don't care about the "Family unit". NS is based on a book with "Family unfriendly" values. Therefore, I will discuss them.

What if my 10 posts were all about drugs, violence, politics, rape, religious cults, and pedophilia?

Your logic is... Nonexistent.
I don't want to be family friendly. The site is for non-children as well. It's based on a book involving murder, death, suicide, and some sexuality.
I am doing this tohelp you dont you realize that? I love you all, and I dotn want you taking Zoloft like me for a little incident that happened on a forum that should be family friendly.

Yes, you all must endorse Gerny's group! Allow Gestapo raids of deletion on anyone who doesn't talk about "kid-friendly" subjects! Remember, he's limiting your posts so you can say more! Go Gerny! Taking away your ability to say things for free speech! How can you not endorse a "72 year old" man who conducts "respectable" studies on everyone except you!
*Cough*
Gerny, you said you were going to kill yourself last night because other people on the forums depressed you. Aren't you done yet?
Yes heres how the studies were conducted, poll 100 nations, take that times by number of nations and we get ourpercent, simple math! Most likely you weren't polled.
That's not accurate at all. There are 600,000 nations on NS.
times our results by 60000 and put that in percentage 50% kids 50% adults
Newsflash! That's not accurate! The world does not work in perfect ratios, and statistics don't apply everywhere. As "vietnam veteran", one would think you'd know that.
i know sonny but thats what our studies found, that we believe.
Don't you ever call me sonny. I am not your child.

Guess what, if you don't survey every nation, you're wrong!

Now stop making every elderly person, vietnam vet, and normal human being look like an idiot and go back to playing with your cat.

I don't care about the "Family unit". NS is based on a book with "Family unfriendly" values. Therefore, I will discuss them.
Sir for 25 years I have been an advicate for children, and for 5 I have been a senior activists for seniors issues. Sir NS is made of children, lets make this place a happy little place not a deep internet dungeon.

I think we can probably all agree, there are certain things common sense dictates that you do not post on. It just some people don't think.

What do you mean by people Mods?
Correct!!! People mods normal mods elected by people. as i said before.

That brings many risks: -

The best people wouldn't get the job.
People would use puppets to vote.
It illiminates the right of the server owner (MB) to choose.

Those are just some problems
People in charge, no more puppets IP scand to delete puppets.

I think we can probably all agree, there are certain things common sense dictates that you do not post on. It just some people don't think.

What do you mean by people Mods?
Correct!!! People mods normal mods elected by people. as i said before.

That brings many risks: -

The best people wouldn't get the job.
People would use puppets to vote.
It illiminates the right of the server owner (MB) to choose.

Those are just some problems
People in charge, no more puppets IP scan to delete puppets.

Dude, Gerny, we have enough mods, but you need to tell THEM instead of posting a million "This guy did this" posts in the general forum. There is such thing as the moderation forum, and i know you know how to use it. Instead of complaining to the people "making" the problem, maybe you should complain to the people who can actually do something.

In summary, stop clogging this forum with useless posts! Tell the people who care, on the Moderation forum!
Listen mods do stuff and dont get in trouble:EXAMPLE: Resi goes posts porn and no action is taken, I saw a person post a picture of a lady in a bikini in which you could see the pointy part and he got deleted! Mods do bad stuff and dont get action taken against them. Corruption

Dude, Gerny, we have enough mods, but you need to tell THEM instead of posting a million "This guy did this" posts in the general forum. There is such thing as the moderation forum, and i know you know how to use it. Instead of complaining to the people "making" the problem, maybe you should complain to the people who can actually do something.

In summary, stop clogging this forum with useless posts! Tell the people who care, on the Moderation forum!
Listen mods do stuff and dont get in trouble:EXAMPLE: Resi goes posts porn and no action is taken, I saw a person post a picture of a lady in a bikini in which you could see the pointy part and he got deleted! Mods do bad stuff and dont get action taken against them. Corruption

Um, Resi isn't a moderator.

Gerny, could you please look at http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134758

hesDude, Gerny, we have enough mods, but you need to tell THEM instead of posting a million "This guy did this" posts in the general forum. There is such thing as the moderation forum, and i know you know how to use it. Instead of complaining to the people "making" the problem, maybe you should complain to the people who can actually do something.

In summary, stop clogging this forum with useless posts! Tell the people who care, on the Moderation forum!
Listen mods do stuff and dont get in trouble:EXAMPLE: Resi goes posts porn and no action is taken, I saw a person post a picture of a lady in a bikini in which you could see the pointy part and he got deleted! Mods do bad stuff and dont get action taken against them. Corruption

Um, Resi isn't a moderator.
In the words of many hes a powerful player

Gerny, could you please look at http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134758

answered already

In the words of many hes a powerful player

But not a mod, so your example is fallacious.

PS, he cannot be powerful, as he has no power.

It would seem, Gerny, that you want to revolutionize the system on NS. You want to make the whole thing democratic, whatever. Guess what, this isn't a publicly owned site, this is owned by a guy named Max Barry, so we follow his rules. Yeah, this site has children on it, but there's nothing that children haven't already seen or heard on here. And, if you don't want children to visit this site, don't let your kids come here...that's all you can do.

The mods are doing the best they can. Taking care of 600,000 something nations is no small task. Shut-up and let them do their job.

As Gerny no longer exists this topic is finished

The new topic is either the budget or the use of landmines, feel free to discuss either.

OMG! TEH'S IS A NATIONSTATES DEBATES ON?! I NEVA NEW!!!

:? drugs should be banned

:? drugs should be banned

:? drugs should be banned

And your rationale for this is what (other than a smily)?

The new topic is either the budget or the use of landmines, feel free to discuss either.

the budget it is then:

The US should give tax incentives to small businesses and the lower and middle class, and raise taxes in the long-run for Corporations and the upper class. It would also be a good idea to focus upon becoming a self-sufficient nation, as well as acheiving a favorable balance of trade

It wouldn't do a lot of good for other nations if America became self sufficient what with transatlantic trade being worth billions. I'm not in favour of high taxes for the rich though just as a Conservative ideal. ut I do support your idea on low taxes for small businesses.

It wouldn't do a lot of good for other nations if America became self sufficient what with transatlantic trade being worth billions. I'm not in favour of high taxes for the rich though just as a Conservative ideal. ut I do support your idea on low taxes for small businesses.

When does a small business become a medium or large business?

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