NationStates Jolt Archive


Iraqi oil,alleged corruption,kick-backs,nepotism.Shocking!

Deeloleo
18-03-2004, 10:41
I know, many of you have think that these things have been going on for some time. Here's the shocking part, none of the people involved are named Bush or Cheney, they are not employed by Halliburton or Bectel. They are UN officials, at least one Brittish MP, European and Middle Eastern companies. It is alleged that companies buying oil from Saddam under the UN Oil for Food Progamme were instructed to artificially inflate prices and kick-back the difference to Saddam. In return for the kick-backs, those responsible are said to have recived vouchers for large amounts of Iraqi oil which they were free to sell to the highest bidder. A swiss company(Cotecna) was contracted to oversee the Oil for Food Programme. Cotecna employed Kojo Annan, son of UN Secretary General Koffi Annan, directly, then later as a consultant. A Iraqi newspaper released a list of those allegedly involved. Benon Sevan a high-ranking UN official, hand picked by Koffi Annan to run the Oil for Food Programme, is named. Charles Pasqua, head of a large French company and also reportedly a friend of Jaques Chirac, was also named. George Galloway, Brittish MP and vocal opponent of the war in Iraq, named as well.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtmlxml=/news/2004/03/14/wiraq14.xml

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=4575032&pageNumber=0

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/rosett200403101819.asp

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1068890/posts

http://66.34.106.174/web/htm/news/nws/news040211b.html

Much has been made by opponents of the war in Iraq about the seeming lack of WMD, about pre-emption, about the legality of the war itsself, about some plan by Bush and co. to dominate the world. They may have a point, these are good reasons to oppose the war. But, it appears that many who opposed the war may have billions of additional reasons.
Deeloleo
18-03-2004, 19:53
Bump.
Stephistan
18-03-2004, 20:38
Your first two sources I agree are good sources. Your last three are not credible and quite questionable at best.

However, how do you explain the mass objections to the Iraqi war by the population? I'm not talking government. Surely you don't believe the majority of the world's population is protecting our non-existing kick backs?

*Edit* Sorry, your last source was just an article copied from the Wall Street Journal. That's credible. *Edit*
Deeloleo
18-03-2004, 23:12
Your first two sources I agree are good sources. Your last three are not credible and quite questionable at best.

However, how do you explain the mass objections to the Iraqi war by the population? I'm not talking government. Surely you don't believe the majority of the world's population is protecting our non-existing kick backs?

*Edit* Sorry, your last source was just an article copied from the Wall Street Journal. That's credible. *Edit*

I believe, like many Europeans do about the US, that they were influenced by those in power. And, I'd also like to point out that the US is not the only country on Earth with corrupt and greedy individuals leading them. The fact that you immediately discount this as non-existant,in my opinoin, means that you have already made your mind up anbd no evidence would convince you that the opposition to the war was, at leaste, as corrupt as the support for it.
Deeloleo
18-03-2004, 23:13
Your first two sources I agree are good sources. Your last three are not credible and quite questionable at best.

However, how do you explain the mass objections to the Iraqi war by the population? I'm not talking government. Surely you don't believe the majority of the world's population is protecting our non-existing kick backs?

*Edit* Sorry, your last source was just an article copied from the Wall Street Journal. That's credible. *Edit*

I believe, like many Europeans do about the US, that they were influenced by those in power. And, I'd also like to point out that the US is not the only country on Earth with corrupt and greedy individuals leading them. The fact that you immediately discount this as non-existant,in my opinoin, means that you have already made your mind up anbd no evidence would convince you that the opposition to the war was, at leaste, as corrupt as the support for it.
Deeloleo
18-03-2004, 23:13
Your first two sources I agree are good sources. Your last three are not credible and quite questionable at best.

However, how do you explain the mass objections to the Iraqi war by the population? I'm not talking government. Surely you don't believe the majority of the world's population is protecting our non-existing kick backs?

*Edit* Sorry, your last source was just an article copied from the Wall Street Journal. That's credible. *Edit*

I believe, like many Europeans do about the US, that they were influenced by those in power. And, I'd also like to point out that the US is not the only country on Earth with corrupt and greedy individuals leading them. The fact that you immediately discount this as non-existant,in my opinoin, means that you have already made your mind up anbd no evidence would convince you that the opposition to the war was, at leaste, as corrupt as the support for it.
28-03-2004, 07:17
Why the outcry Stephy? From Liberals in the U.S., duh, they want to see us turn into modern Europe, and we can't do that if we keep on doing things in our own interest instead of plotting against what little Capitalism remains on Earth. ... Or can we? Hm, France, Russia, and Germany can make multi-billion dollar oil deals with Saddam, bypassing the "oil for food" program so that Saddam can let people die and build palaces, and it's ok, but if we cut them out of the deal, and take the Oil for ourselves, while providing Iraqis with order while they form a new Democratic government, it's not?

The foreign outcry... they're mad that we beat them, again.
NewXmen
28-03-2004, 08:09
You mean the Oil for Palaces program was corrupt?
Chesterjay
31-03-2004, 20:37
Liberals don't have much to say do they? :D
Chesterjay
31-03-2004, 20:37
Liberals don't have much to say do they? :D
Jamesbondmcm
31-03-2004, 22:30
At least they speak regarding the subject, and don't talk out their ass like you.
Gods Bowels
31-03-2004, 22:42
What? are you actually suggesting Halliburton has nothing to do with Halliburtons overcharging?

And Dick Cheney has nothign to do with Halliburton?
Collaboration
01-04-2004, 03:14
Oil corrupts.