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Two reasons.

1) I just now noticed it.
2) There was a mildly interesting debate between SD and Tex.

However, both those points are invalid, and it's returned to sand-lot "debating", so, locked.

Finally! Now I can go to bed and not worry. :lol:

Thanks for thinking that our debate was mildly interesting. Now I must wait for RA to say something about the right-wing fascist authorities oppressing him because he speaks the truth. 8)

Anyways, thanks for doing it, it was about time. It was only going around in circles. But goodnight to all.

Now I must wait for RA to say something about the right-wing fascist authorities oppressing him because he speaks the truth. 8)

Yup. I'm Cap'n Fascist.

Now I must wait for RA to say something about the right-wing fascist authorities oppressing him because he speaks the truth. 8)

Yup. I'm Cap'n Fascist.

Is that your official title? :wink:

(in response to Soviet Democracy) Although I hold considerably more conservative views than you (mainly because people like red arrow drove my mind away from most left-wing political ideals), I appreciate your method and logic in the debate. I can tell from your posts that you believe in evaluating situations personally rather than just going with what a certain branch of the media says. However, I do have problems with some of Red Arrow's personal views as well as his methods, mainly his support of the idea of Jews as conspirators to 911.

Now I must wait for RA to say something about the right-wing fascist authorities oppressing him because he speaks the truth. 8)

Yup. I'm Cap'n Fascist.

Is that your official title? :wink:

Sure, why not? :P

I guess it's that or "Teh Spammiest Modz0r"

Sure, why not? :P

I guess it's that or "Teh Spammiest Modz0r"

Cap'n Fascist is easier to spell :wink:

Sure, why not? :P

I guess it's that or "Teh Spammiest Modz0r"

Cap'n Fascist is easier to spell :wink:

I fear this may come back to bite me, but... we've been being branded as "liberal" a lot lately, so maybe it's time to swing back the other way :wink:

Perhaps not on the issue but amusing anyway:

Sacadland Decides:
Burn! Burn Everything!

The Issue
A recent anti-government rally by highly disgruntled teens has brought a previously minor issue to the fore- should people be permitted to burn Sacadland's flag, or should it be a crime?

The Debate
"We should be able to burn the flag as a sign of protest. I say ignore those crazy red blooded fanatics who won't let us! After all it's because we are a tolerant nation that we should allow it!" says Clint McAlpin, civil rights activist, while trying to wave a burning flag without lighting anybody nearby on fire.
[Accept]


"Burning should be allowed for everything! Down with the pig cops and their repressive regime!" says known well known anarchist and arsonist Stephanie du Pont , from the comfy and non-flamable confines of a prison cell. "Burn! Burn burn burn! Everything! Kyahahaha!"
[Accept]


"These barbarians are suggesting burning the flag of our glorious nation as if it were a piece of scrap cloth! First it's burning the flag, and before you know it, it's rebellion and anarchy!" Elizabeth Summers scowls, "Flag burning should be punishable by jail terms and a good flogging."
[Accept]

Never knew that Stephistan was that much of an political activist :P

(in response to Soviet Democracy) Although I hold considerably more conservative views than you (mainly because people like red arrow drove my mind away from most left-wing political ideals), I appreciate your method and logic in the debate. I can tell from your posts that you believe in evaluating situations personally rather than just going with what a certain branch of the media says. However, I do have problems with some of Red Arrow's personal views as well as his methods, mainly his support of the idea of Jews as conspirators to 911.

Id like to know when I ever claimed that Jews were conspirators in 9/11-- thats certainly news to me...

Two reasons.

1) I just now noticed it.
2) There was a mildly interesting debate between SD and Tex.


does this mean that you won't deleate me anymore?

(in response to Soviet Democracy) Although I hold considerably more conservative views than you (mainly because people like red arrow drove my mind away from most left-wing political ideals), I appreciate your method and logic in the debate. I can tell from your posts that you believe in evaluating situations personally rather than just going with what a certain branch of the media says. However, I do have problems with some of Red Arrow's personal views as well as his methods, mainly his support of the idea of Jews as conspirators to 911.

That is one reason why I am very against RA. He drives people away from the left by claiming all these ludicrous things with stupid articles that prove nothing. But there are people like that on both sides, so yeah.

(in response to Soviet Democracy) Although I hold considerably more conservative views than you (mainly because people like red arrow drove my mind away from most left-wing political ideals), I appreciate your method and logic in the debate. I can tell from your posts that you believe in evaluating situations personally rather than just going with what a certain branch of the media says. However, I do have problems with some of Red Arrow's personal views as well as his methods, mainly his support of the idea of Jews as conspirators to 911.

That is one reason why I am very against RA. He drives people away from the left by claiming all these ludicrous things with stupid articles that prove nothing. But there are people like that on both sides, so yeah.

I never made any such claim--Rethelanium is a foxnews lier

I never made any such claim--Rethelanium is a foxnews lier

Did I ever say that you made that specific claim? No. I said you made ludicrious claims!

And that was one of the worst insults I have ever heard. You are quick to generalize anyone who is critical of you.

I never made any such claim--Rethelanium is a foxnews lier

Did I ever say that you made that specific claim? No. I said you made ludicrious claims!

And that was one of the worst insults I have ever heard. You are quick to generalize anyone who is critical of you.

why dont you get back in your cage I never gave you permission to address me and from now on when I decide to grant you that permission you will address me as SIR

whats really not fair is the way SD makes posts like these to curry favor from the administrators by grovelling like an earthworm and using womanly flattery while at the same time throwing digs at me to provoke infammitory responses all in an attemptt to make me look like the unreasonable one when hes the one who always draws first blood--I dont think anyone should have to be expose to this type of character assassination--hes acten like the Karl Rove of the left

why dont you get back in your cage I never gave you permission to address me and from now on when I decide to grant you that permission you will address me as SIR

A bit arrogant, eh?

whats really not fair is the way SD makes posts like these to curry favor from the administrators by grovelling like an earthworm and using womanly flattery while at the same time throwing digs at me to provoke infammitory responses all in an attemptt to make me look like the unreasonable one when hes the one who always draws first blood--I dont think anyone should have to be expose to this type of character assassination--hes acten like the Karl Rove of the left

I say let the people who read it be the judge of that. I think I am done for a while on this topic. You posting only further proves my own point.

PS
About that grovelling thing. I try to have fun with things, throw some humor into things as some sort of comic relief. Loosen up a bit.

we have irreconciliable differences and the only solution is that I want an order of protection from being exposed to your toxic posts--Maybe the administrators can enforce a ban on any kind of further communication between us in any way and prevent us from posting on each others threads as well. Or if theres some kinda block option where we become invisible to each other that could work too--but clearly there can be a no contact policy since there is a state a war between us--this order of protection can also include a ban on us both from even referring to each other to third partys as well--we need a policy of mutual non-existence

I fear this may come back to bite me, but... we've been being branded as "liberal" a lot lately, so maybe it's time to swing back the other way :wink:Maybe it's just me, but I don't think the Mod's should be using a pendulum as a model of balance. :wink:

we have irreconciliable differences and the only solution is that I want an order of protection from being exposed to your toxic posts--Maybe the administrators can enforce a ban on any kind of further communication between us in any way and prevent us from posting on each others threads as well. Or if theres some kinda block option where we become invisible to each other that could work too--but clearly there can be a no contact policy since there is a state a war between us--this order of protection can also include a ban on us both from even referring to each other to third partys as well--we need a policy of mutual non-existence

Why?

we have irreconciliable differences and the only solution is that I want an order of protection from being exposed to your toxic posts--Maybe the administrators can enforce a ban on any kind of further communication between us in any way and prevent us from posting on each others threads as well. Or if theres some kinda block option where we become invisible to each other that could work too--but clearly there can be a no contact policy since there is a state a war between us--this order of protection can also include a ban on us both from even referring to each other to third partys as well--we need a policy of mutual non-existence

Why?

Because we're in a state of war and theres a severe level of distrust that exists between us that renders all communication obsolete except on the level of terroristic assaults upon each other so the only thing that will ensure our mutual survival is to build a wall that separates us from an ever escalating conflict.I see the strategy that you and your click are persuing against me (and I think you did it to others before me, like this aryan tribes guy im hearing about) and a policy of constructive non-engagement is the best one for me to follow to prevent your assassanation attempts against me. I have a list of others that I know are your allies/puppets that I think should be included in this policy in order to prevent a fullscale war in which would involve casualty rates that are too high to fathom

I have a list of others that I know are your allies/puppets that I think should be included in this policy in order to prevent a fullscale war in which would involve casualty rates that are too high to fathom

wow, aside from being more delusional than Patton, I have to admire you Red Arrow... (ponders: is the name a sort of political spin on the leftest comic book hero, the Green Arrow?)
You bring up refreshing topics and always cite the sources of your information and have catch-phrases that I could never use, but love reading... my favorites being "why dont you get back in your cage" and "foxnews liar!"

I think the two points the opposition is trying to make are as follows:
1) You post several topics in a very limited amount of time
2) You rarely offer your own analysis

I disagree with the first part being a problem... it's a big world and there's a lot to talk about...
They may have a point in suggesting that the first problem leading to the second problem, but I offer a different possibility: You normally offer your own analysis of something you post only after people have responded to it; I think this is because you do not wish to give up your debate early on and prefer to debate on the offensive rather than the defensive...

oh well, can't we all just get along?

(in response to Soviet Democracy) Although I hold considerably more conservative views than you (mainly because people like red arrow drove my mind away from most left-wing political ideals), I appreciate your method and logic in the debate. I can tell from your posts that you believe in evaluating situations personally rather than just going with what a certain branch of the media says. However, I do have problems with some of Red Arrow's personal views as well as his methods, mainly his support of the idea of Jews as conspirators to 911.

Id like to know when I ever claimed that Jews were conspirators in 9/11-- thats certainly news to me...
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115265&highlight=

Need I say more?

However, I do have problems with some of Red Arrow's personal views as well as his methods, mainly his support of the idea of Jews as conspirators to 911.

Id like to know when I ever claimed that Jews were conspirators in 9/11-- thats certainly news to me...


http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115265&highlight=
Need I say more?

How about the truth you "FOXNEWS LIAR," or do you expect me to believe that you didn't see this on the same page:

Im not sayin everything I post is necessarily true--it could be a load of crap--but I think it makes an interestin debate to at least consider every single angle of a story as much as possible cause the truth would lie somewhere in the middle

Yes, but if "it's a load of crap", especially a load of demeaning crap, then why mention it? Good debates are sparked by intelligent questions based on strong factual evidence, but articles that biased and based almost completely on hearsay and guessing spark discrimination, not to mention one of the later delegates pointed out that someone had taken the article way out of context.

Yes, but if "it's a load of crap", especially a load of demeaning crap, then why mention it? Good debates are sparked by intelligent questions based on strong factual evidence, but articles that biased and based almost completely on hearsay and guessing spark discrimination.

irrelevent, the point is that you claimed that he said something that he didn't... you should apologize for your lies...

I'd have to agree, the posting of an article questioning how 9/11 footage from an Israeli source wound up on an Al-queda website hardly constitutes blaming Jews for the event.

Sure, why not? :P

I guess it's that or "Teh Spammiest Modz0r"

Cap'n Fascist is easier to spell :wink:

I fear this may come back to bite me, but... we've been being branded as "liberal" a lot lately, so maybe it's time to swing back the other way :wink:

Swinger, eh?

I have a list of others that I know are your allies/puppets that I think should be included in this policy in order to prevent a fullscale war in which would involve casualty rates that are too high to fathom

wow, aside from being more delusional than Patton, I have to admire you Red Arrow... (ponders: is the name a sort of political spin on the leftest comic book hero, the Green Arrow?)
You bring up refreshing topics and always cite the sources of your information and have catch-phrases that I could never use, but love reading... my favorites being "why dont you get back in your cage" and "foxnews liar!"

I think the two points the opposition is trying to make are as follows:
1) You post several topics in a very limited amount of time
2) You rarely offer your own analysis

I disagree with the first part being a problem... it's a big world and there's a lot to talk about...
They may have a point in suggesting that the first problem leading to the second problem, but I offer a different possibility: You normally offer your own analysis of something you post only after people have responded to it; I think this is because you do not wish to give up your debate early on and prefer to debate on the offensive rather than the defensive...

oh well, can't we all just get along?

you have penetrating insights and thats exactly what I do cause I believe the best defense is a good offense--*its also an interesting omen that you bring up the name of Patton-- you do know he was assassanated?

(in response to Soviet Democracy) Although I hold considerably more conservative views than you (mainly because people like red arrow drove my mind away from most left-wing political ideals), I appreciate your method and logic in the debate. I can tell from your posts that you believe in evaluating situations personally rather than just going with what a certain branch of the media says. However, I do have problems with some of Red Arrow's personal views as well as his methods, mainly his support of the idea of Jews as conspirators to 911.

Id like to know when I ever claimed that Jews were conspirators in 9/11-- thats certainly news to me...
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115265&highlight=

Need I say more?

for starters Justin Raimondo wrote that article and he was talking about the Mossad not "all Jewish people"---does the CIA represent Americans?

Because we're in a state of war and theres a severe level of distrust that exists between us that renders all communication obsolete except on the level of terroristic assaults upon each other so the only thing that will ensure our mutual survival is to build a wall that separates us from an ever escalating conflict.I see the strategy that you and your click are persuing against me (and I think you did it to others before me, like this aryan tribes guy im hearing about) and a policy of constructive non-engagement is the best one for me to follow to prevent your assassanation attempts against me. I have a list of others that I know are your allies/puppets that I think should be included in this policy in order to prevent a fullscale war in which would involve casualty rates that are too high to fathom

A couple of things. This is nothing to get all silly about. A "state of war", if you say so. But there will be no casualties. I do not see why this needs to be done? Do you just want me off your back? Do you want me to shut up? Do you want to censor me so you are free to say what you want? Anyways, Aryan Tribes was someone that I have compared you to. I said nothing to him though. Because he was not making leftists look like fools, he was making Nazis look like fools!

And there is no alliance against you. If there is, I am not in it. I am an individual who is disgusted by your propaganda spreading tactics.

However, I do have problems with some of Red Arrow's personal views as well as his methods, mainly his support of the idea of Jews as conspirators to 911.

Id like to know when I ever claimed that Jews were conspirators in 9/11-- thats certainly news to me...


http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115265&highlight=
Need I say more?

How about the truth you "FOXNEWS LIAR," or do you expect me to believe that you didn't see this on the same page:

Im not sayin everything I post is necessarily true--it could be a load of crap--but I think it makes an interestin debate to at least consider every single angle of a story as much as possible cause the truth would lie somewhere in the middle

wow Im impressed--I didnt even see me say that , lol. Youd make an excellent lawyer Texastambul (that was meant as a compliment)

Yes, but if "it's a load of crap", especially a load of demeaning crap, then why mention it? Good debates are sparked by intelligent questions based on strong factual evidence, but articles that biased and based almost completely on hearsay and guessing spark discrimination, not to mention one of the later delegates pointed out that someone had taken the article way out of context.

it was a factual story buried in the corporate media that the FBI did catch Israelis on a rooftop (no doubt mossad agents) acting suspiciously and immediately deported them--I remember reading it at the time. Now that doesnt necessarily mean they had a hand in the attack but its undeniable they knew it was gonna happen and warned Bush and that the attack did benefit Sharons interest as it benefitted Bushs

Because we're in a state of war and theres a severe level of distrust that exists between us that renders all communication obsolete except on the level of terroristic assaults upon each other so the only thing that will ensure our mutual survival is to build a wall that separates us from an ever escalating conflict.I see the strategy that you and your click are persuing against me (and I think you did it to others before me, like this aryan tribes guy im hearing about) and a policy of constructive non-engagement is the best one for me to follow to prevent your assassanation attempts against me. I have a list of others that I know are your allies/puppets that I think should be included in this policy in order to prevent a fullscale war in which would involve casualty rates that are too high to fathom

A couple of things. This is nothing to get all silly about. A "state of war", if you say so. But there will be no casualties. I do not see why this needs to be done? Do you just want me off your back? Do you want me to shut up? Do you want to censor me so you are free to say what you want? Anyways, Aryan Tribes was someone that I have compared you to. I said nothing to him though. Because he was not making leftists look like fools, he was making Nazis look like fools!

And there is no alliance against you. If there is, I am not in it. I am an individual who is disgusted by your propaganda spreading tactics.

If theres no alliance against me then how do you explain the posts of that puppet state Vitania who blatantly claimed that there is even on that same post we were fighting on? And youd clearly be in it since your their "leftwing" operative whose mission it is to try to demonize me from the left (since if a rightwinger tried this tactic it would be much more transparent) in an attempt to discredit progressive messages that you label as "propaganda" even tho your supposedly a leftwinger yourself--I dont know Aryan Tribes but Id sure like to speak with him and see if the same cabal that assassanted him is now attacking me and what the motives are behind it.

Because we're in a state of war and theres a severe level of distrust that exists between us that renders all communication obsolete except on the level of terroristic assaults upon each other so the only thing that will ensure our mutual survival is to build a wall that separates us from an ever escalating conflict.I see the strategy that you and your click are persuing against me (and I think you did it to others before me, like this aryan tribes guy im hearing about) and a policy of constructive non-engagement is the best one for me to follow to prevent your assassanation attempts against me. I have a list of others that I know are your allies/puppets that I think should be included in this policy in order to prevent a fullscale war in which would involve casualty rates that are too high to fathom

A couple of things. This is nothing to get all silly about. A "state of war", if you say so. But there will be no casualties. I do not see why this needs to be done? Do you just want me off your back? Do you want me to shut up? Do you want to censor me so you are free to say what you want? Anyways, Aryan Tribes was someone that I have compared you to. I said nothing to him though. Because he was not making leftists look like fools, he was making Nazis look like fools!

And there is no alliance against you. If there is, I am not in it. I am an individual who is disgusted by your propaganda spreading tactics.

If theres no alliance against me then how do you explain the posts of that puppet state Vitania who blatantly claimed that there is even on that same post we were fighting on? And youd clearly be in it since your their "leftwing" operative whose mission it is to try to demonize me from the left (since if a rightwinger tried this tactic it would be much more transparent) in an attempt to discredit progressive messages that you label as "propaganda" even tho your supposedly a leftwinger yourself--I dont know Aryan Tribes but Id sure like to speak with him and see if the same cabal that assassanted him is now attacking me and what the motives are behind it.



the red arrow is a speaker of the truth, that of which is a fact.

so- learn 8) from him.

Because we're in a state of war and theres a severe level of distrust that exists between us that renders all communication obsolete except on the level of terroristic assaults upon each other so the only thing that will ensure our mutual survival is to build a wall that separates us from an ever escalating conflict.I see the strategy that you and your click are persuing against me (and I think you did it to others before me, like this aryan tribes guy im hearing about) and a policy of constructive non-engagement is the best one for me to follow to prevent your assassanation attempts against me. I have a list of others that I know are your allies/puppets that I think should be included in this policy in order to prevent a fullscale war in which would involve casualty rates that are too high to fathom

A couple of things. This is nothing to get all silly about. A "state of war", if you say so. But there will be no casualties. I do not see why this needs to be done? Do you just want me off your back? Do you want me to shut up? Do you want to censor me so you are free to say what you want? Anyways, Aryan Tribes was someone that I have compared you to. I said nothing to him though. Because he was not making leftists look like fools, he was making Nazis look like fools!

And there is no alliance against you. If there is, I am not in it. I am an individual who is disgusted by your propaganda spreading tactics.

If theres no alliance against me then how do you explain the posts of that puppet state Vitania who blatantly claimed that there is even on that same post we were fighting on? And youd clearly be in it since your their "leftwing" operative whose mission it is to try to demonize me from the left (since if a rightwinger tried this tactic it would be much more transparent) in an attempt to discredit progressive messages that you label as "propaganda" even tho your supposedly a leftwinger yourself--I dont know Aryan Tribes but Id sure like to speak with him and see if the same cabal that assassanted him is now attacking me and what the motives are behind it.



the red arrow is a speaker of the truth, that of which is a fact.

so- learn 8) from him.

Ave Brother--if theres any information you have about this embedded cabal (its history, current members, prior victims etc) please let me know. I think this could be a real life hidden conspiracy on NS with carefully selected targets against any outspokenly dissedent messages whether from the left or the right--it would help to know more about what their agenda is to more accurately assess their psych-ops manouvers

Paranoia will destroy ya.


(And I thought RA was wacky before....)

we have irreconciliable differences and the only solution is that I want an order of protection from being exposed to your toxic posts--Maybe the administrators can enforce a ban on any kind of further communication between us in any way and prevent us from posting on each others threads as well. Or if theres some kinda block option where we become invisible to each other that could work too--but clearly there can be a no contact policy since there is a state a war between us--this order of protection can also include a ban on us both from even referring to each other to third partys as well--we need a policy of mutual non-existence

Not gonna happen.

If you don't want to interact with him, don't.

we have irreconciliable differences and the only solution is that I want an order of protection from being exposed to your toxic posts--Maybe the administrators can enforce a ban on any kind of further communication between us in any way and prevent us from posting on each others threads as well. Or if theres some kinda block option where we become invisible to each other that could work too--but clearly there can be a no contact policy since there is a state a war between us--this order of protection can also include a ban on us both from even referring to each other to third partys as well--we need a policy of mutual non-existence

Not gonna happen.

If you don't want to interact with him, don't.

I just want him off my back

we have irreconciliable differences and the only solution is that I want an order of protection from being exposed to your toxic posts--Maybe the administrators can enforce a ban on any kind of further communication between us in any way and prevent us from posting on each others threads as well. Or if theres some kinda block option where we become invisible to each other that could work too--but clearly there can be a no contact policy since there is a state a war between us--this order of protection can also include a ban on us both from even referring to each other to third partys as well--we need a policy of mutual non-existence

Not gonna happen.

If you don't want to interact with him, don't.

I just want him off my back

(in response to Soviet Democracy) Although I hold considerably more conservative views than you (mainly because people like red arrow drove my mind away from most left-wing political ideals), I appreciate your method and logic in the debate. I can tell from your posts that you believe in evaluating situations personally rather than just going with what a certain branch of the media says. However, I do have problems with some of Red Arrow's personal views as well as his methods, mainly his support of the idea of Jews as conspirators to 911.

Id like to know when I ever claimed that Jews were conspirators in 9/11-- thats certainly news to me...
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115265&highlight=

Need I say more?

for starters Justin Raimondo wrote that article and he was talking about the Mossad not "all Jewish people"---does the CIA represent Americans?
No, not really, but if the CIA or the government messes something up ((as we all clearly saw with the war in Iraq)), who does the world hate, the CIA or America?

(in response to Soviet Democracy) Although I hold considerably more conservative views than you (mainly because people like red arrow drove my mind away from most left-wing political ideals), I appreciate your method and logic in the debate. I can tell from your posts that you believe in evaluating situations personally rather than just going with what a certain branch of the media says. However, I do have problems with some of Red Arrow's personal views as well as his methods, mainly his support of the idea of Jews as conspirators to 911.

Id like to know when I ever claimed that Jews were conspirators in 9/11-- thats certainly news to me...
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115265&highlight=

Need I say more?

for starters Justin Raimondo wrote that article and he was talking about the Mossad not "all Jewish people"---does the CIA represent Americans?
No, not really, but if the CIA or the government messes something up ((as we all clearly saw with the war in Iraq)), who does the world hate, the CIA or America?
Id like to know when I ever claimed that Jews were conspirators in 9/11-- thats certainly news to me... If Jews knew about 9-11 ahead of time and did not inform the government, that makes them conspirators. Sorry for the exagerration, but most people don't post things that they do not see a possibilty of having truth in them, and that alone caused my not-very-nice reaction to someone who could even consider such a thing.

(in response to Soviet Democracy) Although I hold considerably more conservative views than you (mainly because people like red arrow drove my mind away from most left-wing political ideals), I appreciate your method and logic in the debate. I can tell from your posts that you believe in evaluating situations personally rather than just going with what a certain branch of the media says. However, I do have problems with some of Red Arrow's personal views as well as his methods, mainly his support of the idea of Jews as conspirators to 911.

Id like to know when I ever claimed that Jews were conspirators in 9/11-- thats certainly news to me...
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115265&highlight=

Need I say more?

for starters Justin Raimondo wrote that article and he was talking about the Mossad not "all Jewish people"---does the CIA represent Americans?
No, not really, but if the CIA or the government messes something up ((as we all clearly saw with the war in Iraq)), who does the world hate, the CIA or America?

the world should hate the Leaders responsible. I dont have any doubt the mossad knew of this attack beforehand and warned Bush.

(in response to Soviet Democracy) Although I hold considerably more conservative views than you (mainly because people like red arrow drove my mind away from most left-wing political ideals), I appreciate your method and logic in the debate. I can tell from your posts that you believe in evaluating situations personally rather than just going with what a certain branch of the media says. However, I do have problems with some of Red Arrow's personal views as well as his methods, mainly his support of the idea of Jews as conspirators to 911.

Id like to know when I ever claimed that Jews were conspirators in 9/11-- thats certainly news to me...
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115265&highlight=

Need I say more?

for starters Justin Raimondo wrote that article and he was talking about the Mossad not "all Jewish people"---does the CIA represent Americans?
No, not really, but if the CIA or the government messes something up ((as we all clearly saw with the war in Iraq)), who does the world hate, the CIA or America?

the world should hate the Leaders responsible. I dont have any doubt the mossad knew of this attack beforehand and warned Bush.
I asked who the world does blame, not who the world [I] should [I] blame. And by saying that you have no doubt that mossad knew of the attack, you completely undermine your previous claims that you do not support that idea.

(in response to Soviet Democracy) Although I hold considerably more conservative views than you (mainly because people like red arrow drove my mind away from most left-wing political ideals), I appreciate your method and logic in the debate. I can tell from your posts that you believe in evaluating situations personally rather than just going with what a certain branch of the media says. However, I do have problems with some of Red Arrow's personal views as well as his methods, mainly his support of the idea of Jews as conspirators to 911.

Id like to know when I ever claimed that Jews were conspirators in 9/11-- thats certainly news to me...
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115265&highlight=

Need I say more?

for starters Justin Raimondo wrote that article and he was talking about the Mossad not "all Jewish people"---does the CIA represent Americans?
No, not really, but if the CIA or the government messes something up ((as we all clearly saw with the war in Iraq)), who does the world hate, the CIA or America?

the world should hate the Leaders responsible. I dont have any doubt the mossad knew of this attack beforehand and warned Bush.
I asked who the world does blame, not who the world [I] should [I] blame. And by saying that you have no doubt that mossad knew of the attack, you completely undermine your previous claims that you do not support that idea.

maybe so but history will prove that Bush was warned and allowed this attack to occur as his Pearl Harbor to persue his special interest globalist agenda

(in response to Soviet Democracy) Although I hold considerably more conservative views than you (mainly because people like red arrow drove my mind away from most left-wing political ideals), I appreciate your method and logic in the debate. I can tell from your posts that you believe in evaluating situations personally rather than just going with what a certain branch of the media says. However, I do have problems with some of Red Arrow's personal views as well as his methods, mainly his support of the idea of Jews as conspirators to 911.

Id like to know when I ever claimed that Jews were conspirators in 9/11-- thats certainly news to me...
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115265&highlight=

Need I say more?

for starters Justin Raimondo wrote that article and he was talking about the Mossad not "all Jewish people"---does the CIA represent Americans?
No, not really, but if the CIA or the government messes something up ((as we all clearly saw with the war in Iraq)), who does the world hate, the CIA or America?

the world should hate the Leaders responsible. I dont have any doubt the mossad knew of this attack beforehand and warned Bush.
I asked who the world does blame, not who the world [I] should [I] blame. And by saying that you have no doubt that mossad knew of the attack, you completely undermine your previous claims that you do not support that idea.

maybe so but history will prove that Bush was warned and allowed this attack to occur as his Pearl Harbor to persue his special interest globalist agenda

(in response to Soviet Democracy) Although I hold considerably more conservative views than you (mainly because people like red arrow drove my mind away from most left-wing political ideals), I appreciate your method and logic in the debate. I can tell from your posts that you believe in evaluating situations personally rather than just going with what a certain branch of the media says. However, I do have problems with some of Red Arrow's personal views as well as his methods, mainly his support of the idea of Jews as conspirators to 911.

Id like to know when I ever claimed that Jews were conspirators in 9/11-- thats certainly news to me...
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115265&highlight=

Need I say more?

for starters Justin Raimondo wrote that article and he was talking about the Mossad not "all Jewish people"---does the CIA represent Americans?
No, not really, but if the CIA or the government messes something up ((as we all clearly saw with the war in Iraq)), who does the world hate, the CIA or America?

the world should hate the Leaders responsible. I dont have any doubt the mossad knew of this attack beforehand and warned Bush.
I asked who the world does blame, not who the world [I] should [I] blame. And by saying that you have no doubt that mossad knew of the attack, you completely undermine your previous claims that you do not support that idea.

maybe so but history will prove that Bush was warned and allowed this attack to occur as his Pearl Harbor to persue his special interest globalist agenda