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This isnt spam or anything. I just want to see who would be interested and get any feed back people may have regarding this.

I am Kaimoni Sutton (as some of you may know). I run an online Virtual Space agency. But before you go and say its childish, let me explain what we do and who we work with. My space agency called the Virtual United States Space Program (http://www.vussp.com) has been in operation for about 2.5-3 years REALISTICLY simulating space operations using a number of freeware programs which in my opinion should totally be payware. We have a few close ties to NASA as we work with a couple of its employees, and future employees, including people who are studying in the fields of aviation, nuclear physics and things of that nature. We also work with an aircraft design company that is currently doing business with the Boeing company (they are buying one of their designs i believe, but dont quote me on that just yet). They have designed us spacecraft that if build in real life, would fly, but for our purposes, they will be made for simulations using 'Orbiter' (http://www.orbitersim.com), the space simulator program we use.

Over the past couple years we have simulated OVER 30 unmanned space missions. A vast majority of the missions were earth based, however, we have sent probes to study the sun, and the moon. We have sent our astronauts to the moon, and are working dilligently to send a manned crew to mars by 2005. We have set up a space station which assembly started on back in April of 03', and we are beginning our program to send men BACK to the moon in preparation for the mars missions (we need to test out our theories and ideas as well as test long duration mission, something like nasa is going to do in the imminent futute, except we beat them to the concept lol- we have been planning this for at least a year).

The VUSSP is a non profit organization and we do teach everyone what they need to know to do thier jobs, whether they be a mission controller, an astronuat, or an director running a division. As i said we do train with nasa mission controllers so what we do is legit and real, to a point obviously. If anyone is interested in finding out more you can visit our website at http://www.vussp.com or leave a post here.

Here is a pictureof one of the moon spacecraft currently on our pad. Its goign to be launched unmanned on Saturday February 7, 2003 at 12 pm EST:
http://www.vussp.com/saturn1b.jpg

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Come on guys :(

Why do you want it to be payware?

I dont, im just saying its good enough to be payware. its REALLY good. Graphics are near realistic, and the actual physics and things that go into this are just amazing. The guy who created orbiter (Martin S.) is one big genius lol. Is really a great program, but it takes a long while to learn if your not taught. I taught myself in a month, but thtas after having close to 7 years of previous knowledge of orbital mechanics and things of the sort (im only 17).

I dont, im just saying its good enough to be payware. its REALLY good. Graphics are near realistic, and the actual physics and things that go into this are just amazing. The guy who created orbiter (Martin S.) is one big genius lol. Is really a great program, but it takes a long while to learn if your not taught. I taught myself in a month, but thtas after having close to 7 years of previous knowledge of orbital mechanics and things of the sort (im only 17).

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And what kind of space exploration does it simulate? Just within the confines of our own solar system?

HAHA im afraid so. This program runs in real time. Just like it would take 4-6 days to reach the moon in real life, it takes equally the same time in Orbiter, same for mars any anywhere else. When i said realisitic, i meant it, right down to the time it takes to reach the planets, and the smallest atmospheric presure of each. Were making baby steps just like nasa is.

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Sooo. Whats the point of this?
you want us to dl your software?

Uhh, I can't get the vussp link to work.

link doesnt work!

hmm, weve been having problems with our webhost for the past couple weeks. Please bear with us.

Sooo. Whats the point of this?
you want us to dl your software?

No, the point of it is to get people interested and join. We dont create the software, we only use it.

what? build a real rocket

No, everything that we do happens IN THE SIMULATOR. What i was getting at was that the simulator is so realistic that it simulates even the smallest details of other planets. Take venus for instance. Its an unforgiving place, although we cant simulate heat in it, you can definityl simulate the pressure, and it is simulated accuratly in Orbiter. It would require the same amount of thrust to get out of the atmophere on orbiter as it would in real life, and that is a tremendous amount of thrust considering the atmospheric pressure levels are so high due to the runaway greenhouse effect.

once ou get you site working tell me, sounds great, and GJ.

Thanks. It may be a while though since the webhost is in the UK and i live here in the states and i cant give them a call and cuss em out (i guess its a good thing for them). Our site has been on and offline twice over the period of a month and a half, but mainly offline for abotu 90% of that time due to i guess the server host getting bought out. Now what the problem seems to be is that my entire account was deleted, and the only thing working is the webmail which i cant even log into since the control panel for the account is gone. (IF I LIVED IN THE UK ID CALL EM AND GIVE EM A PIECE OF MY MIND. ITS GETTIN REDICULOUS).


BTW, if anyone is considering 101.webhosting.com (which is now 101-network.com), i recommend you dont. They have a crappy service and dont keep the customers updated on what the hec their doing

That is very cool indeed.

Well, it looks like its going to be a little longer than i thought. The hosting company just deleted my entire account and cut me from the company without any explanation as to why. (there goes 3 yrs worth of website work down the drain)

o.0 yeesh.

Anyway, does it need 3d accell?

No it doesnt need a 3d accelerator however it would be a big help if you had one. Im not saying you NEED to have it because i dont have one and im the VUSSP's most experienced astronaut (i have over 2,500 hours in space).

The VUSSP website is back up after a couple weeks thank god. We are once again taking applications. The NEW and permanent url is http://www.vussp.com

The VUSSP website is back up after a couple weeks thank god. We are once again taking applications. The NEW and permanent url is http://www.vussp.com

The VUSSP website is back up after a couple weeks thank god. We are once again taking applications. The NEW and permanent url is http://www.vussp.com

The VUSSP website is back up after a couple weeks thank god. We are once again taking applications. The NEW and permanent url is http://www.vussp.com

The VUSSP website is back up after a couple weeks thank god. We are once again taking applications. The NEW and permanent url is http://www.vussp.com

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I think this would be interesting.

I am just about to start a university course in space science and astrophysics.

Cool. We teach the fundamentals of Orbital mechancs and advanced orbital mechanics. Some of our nasa guys teach us way more advanced stuff, but yea it is interesting. Were preparing for missions to mars sometime next year once we get our lunar orbiting laboratory and lunar surface based laboratory built. (We literally beat nasa to the idea by less than a year lol).

Perhaps including an observatory on the Lunar surface?

We could build one with no hassle. We havent really gotten any thoughts about the base just yat as we are just really focusing on our upcoming manned moon mission. Our launch schedule is VERY aggressive. We have 1 launch per week starting Febuary 7 which kicks off our SPECTRE-Apollo program. And that manned scheule lasts like that for about 2 months, then we have to squeeze in unmanned launches to put and assemble the observatory in lunar orbit. That means so much paper work for me as i have to create the long flight plans and manuals for everything and then have to ensure the crews are trained lol. Last year when we tried to pursue such an aggressive launch scheule, we couldnt maintain it, and that was for only one month.

It appears as though you are using the Saturn 1B for a lunar launch vehicle. Shouldn't that be a Saturn 5 or 5C? The 1b is a much less powerful vehicle and was originally designed for a rendez vous in low earth orbit with a second 1B before their combined payloads launched for the moon. Unless you have managed to cut the weight of the lander, command vehicle and supplies in half you may have a problem.

I know that there is a great deal of talk at the cape about starting the Sat5 assembly line again as it is a safer, more reliable vehicle than the shuttle and can deliver much more payload to orbit. As well, it turns out to be less expensive to launch too.

Thoughts?

wat is it?????????? :?

Well yes it is a Saturn IB. The VUSSP doesnt plan on sending men back to the moon until the end of February. For those missions we WILL use the Saturn V which is the only vehicle capable of getting to the moon aside from russian tech which we dont use. The Saturn V has 7.5 million pounds of thrust in the first stage alone, while the Saturn IB has a consider amount less. We are testing the Saturn IB so that we can use it to transit our guys into space to our space station until our COnvoy shuttle is done being designed and developed.

Comunist eutopia: Its a virtual space agency

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( stepping out of character for just a second) I have seen the 1b and the Sat5 as well as all of the shuttles launch from the Cape while standing in the shadow of the V.A.B. I have written about these experiences for a number of publications but have never been able to convey the life changing nature of actually being there. I understand from friends at the Cape that a re-design of the Sat5 could yeild a 20 - 30% increase in thrust and a 15% decrease in weight. There is quite a bit of support for such a redevelopment programme.

And now back to our regularly scheduled programme!

( stepping out of character for just a second) I have seen the 1b and the Sat5 as well as all of the shuttles launch from the Cape while standing in the shadow of the V.A.B. I have written about these experiences for a number of publications but have never been able to convey the life changing nature of actually being there. I understand from friends at the Cape that a re-design of the Sat5 could yeild a 20 - 30% increase in thrust and a 15% decrease in weight. There is quite a bit of support for such a redevelopment programme.

And now back to our regularly scheduled programme!

Yea thats true, but remember its true because the Saturn V and Saturn IB are 1960's (maybe even 1950's) technology, so MUCH improvement could be made in terms of materials used, modification of the engine systems, im willing to bet the entire vehicle could be modified reducing TONS of weight and providing more payload capability, better life support, improving upon security, and things of that nature.

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Bump enough times already :P

lol im trying to get as many people as possible to read it and join

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Wow, looks...complicated :shock:. It looks pretty interesting too, but I'm afraid I'm not exactly a math-type person (*knows he should have paid more attention in Mr. Allright's class*).

Very interested...

Kinda on a tangent, but have you ever heard of Spaceset? I believe it's a NASA Sponsored International Competition. I'm in the school club for it...

On another note, I get to go to the JPL in Padadena (Can't spell) this March :P

sweet, and no ive never head of space set. Whats the competition about?

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It seems to be a very cool idea. If only I had the time....

its not very time consuming (except on days where we have launches and those are mainly on the weekend unless a mission HAS to be launched during the week or if the mission runs through a whole week or so (but even if a mission lasts more than a week or so, its not time consuming)

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