NationStates Jolt Archive


Movie, sounds good but...

The Belmore Family
25-10-2003, 12:02
The main readers of Jenifer Government, I presume would be players of NationStates. Most of the players of nationstates (according to the NS2 Survey (http://www.nationstates.net/survey.html)) are children. Jenifer Government to me would seem like a great movie but would have, probally a 15 rating. Would the movie have to be "dulled down" for the younger viewer (12,13,14 ect) like myself.

Note:This is the 100th topic on the Jenifer Government board.
Tactical Grace
25-10-2003, 12:32
Judging by the book's content, JG would be given a 12A rating in the UK, so I don't see there being a problem, in Europe at least. I do not know whether the cesors are more strict in the US though, it seems more likely.
Myrth
25-10-2003, 14:13
Judging by the book's content, JG would be given a 12A rating in the UK, so I don't see there being a problem, in Europe at least. I do not know whether the cesors are more strict in the US though, it seems more likely.

With the swearing in it, it would probably be 12 or 15.
If they cut the swearing out, then I'd imagine it would get a 12A.
Tactical Grace
25-10-2003, 15:48
I very much doubt it would get a 15, even if they said sh*t and f*ck a couple of times. The BBFC are very lenient these days.
Goobergunchia
25-10-2003, 18:22
<--- American nation confused by British rating system references
Tactical Grace
25-10-2003, 21:10
OK, here's a breakdown:

U - Universal, Disney stuff.

PG - Parental Guidance, vague child-friendly category.

12A - For people aged 12+, although younger children can watch it if supervised by an adult (aged 18+).

12 - For people aged 12+ only.

15 - For people aged 15+ only.

18 - For people aged 18+ only.

Basically, there is no way the JG movie would be rated anything above 12 if it does not feature sexually explicit scenes and graphic violence featuring skull fragmentation effects and the like. I think a 12 rating is likely, maybe 12A if they really sanitised it.
Goobergunchia
25-10-2003, 22:10
Thanks, and I'd concur.
Catholic Europe
26-10-2003, 11:26
Basically, there is no way the JG movie would be rated anything above 12 if it does not feature sexually explicit scenes and graphic violence featuring skull fragmentation effects and the like. I think a 12 rating is likely, maybe 12A if they really sanitised it.

I agree. JG will probably be no more than a 12A, probably a 12.
26-10-2003, 19:28
HMMM I think in US it would get a PG-13 rating which means recommebded for 13+ but anyone can see it.
Catholic Europe
26-10-2003, 20:30
Therefore, having judged what people think would be the age category for the film, it would seems as if all NS players would be able to view JG:The Movie
Celdonia
31-10-2003, 14:44
It probably depends ion how the filmmakers choose to portray the violence, of which there could potentially be quite a lot.

For those in the UK here's what the BBFC says about violence in "12A" or "12" films:


Violence
Violence must not dwell on detail. There should be no emphasis on injuries or blood. Sexual violence may only be implied or briefly indicated and without physical detail. Imitable techniques. Dangerous techniques (examples include: combat, hanging, suicides) should contain no imitable detail. Realistic and contemporary weapons should not be glamorised.
Ravens Ait
01-11-2003, 15:07
The main readers of Jenifer Government, I presume would be players of NationStates. Most of the players of nationstates (according to the NS2 Survey (http://www.nationstates.net/survey.html)) are children.

Not quite sure this statement is true. Looking at the survey it's true 58% are 21% or younger, but over half of them are between 18-21.. hardly children. Only just over a quarter are under 18 & no further breakdown is given so its entirely possible a good proportion of them fall into the high end of the range.

I'll take my Statto hat off now 8)
Tactical Grace
01-11-2003, 16:29
Indeed, the vast majority of NationStates players are aged 15+. Therefore, virtually all the people who play this game will be in a position to legally view the movie should it be made. However, only a relatively small proportion has actually bought the book. This is a shame.
Bayorta
02-11-2003, 03:27
Indeed, the vast majority of NationStates players are aged 15+. Therefore, virtually all the people who play this game will be in a position to legally view the movie should it be made. However, only a relatively small proportion has actually bought the book. This is a shame.

Yeah. And the book is bloody excellent. Even if you dont like to read, JG is a treat!

Personally I hope that the film will portray the book exactly. I wont be happy if its 'dimmed'.
The Belmore Family
02-11-2003, 08:55
Indeed, the vast majority of NationStates players are aged 15+. Therefore, virtually all the people who play this game will be in a position to legally view the movie should it be made. However, only a relatively small proportion has actually bought the book. This is a shame.
I have. That makes me special.
I'm special!!! :D (Or at least that's what my doctors say.)
Goobergunchia
02-11-2003, 18:48
Indeed, the vast majority of NationStates players are aged 15+. Therefore, virtually all the people who play this game will be in a position to legally view the movie should it be made. However, only a relatively small proportion has actually bought the book. This is a shame.
I have. That makes me special.
I'm special!!! :D (Or at least that's what my doctors say.)

Same here. And if it weren't for NS, I probably wouldn't have bought it....so MB's marketing strategy at least worked on me!

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02-11-2003, 23:39
OK, here's a breakdown:

U - Universal, Disney stuff.

PG - Parental Guidance, vague child-friendly category.

12A - For people aged 12+, although younger children can watch it if supervised by an adult (aged 18+).

12 - For people aged 12+ only.

15 - For people aged 15+ only.

18 - For people aged 18+ only.

Basically, there is no way the JG movie would be rated anything above 12 if it does not feature sexually explicit scenes and graphic violence featuring skull fragmentation effects and the like. I think a 12 rating is likely, maybe 12A if they really sanitised it.

Probably a PG 13 movie here...

G - General Audience. American equivalent of U I guess...

PG - already explained.

PG13 - Paretal guidence for those under 13.

R - Restricted. People under 18 are not allowed unless acompanied by an adult.
The Most Glorious Hack
03-11-2003, 06:29
Probably a PG 13 movie here...

G - General Audience. American equivalent of U I guess...

PG - already explained.

PG13 - Paretal guidence for those under 13.

R - Restricted. People under 18 are not allowed unless acompanied by an adult.

Let's not forget NC-17 (which replaced the much remembered 'X', as 'X' wasn't copyrighted, and thus usable by anybody, whereas NC-17 has a copyright) which translates to 'No Children under 17 admitted'. The difference between NC-17 and R is that even with a parent someone under the age of 17 cannot get in.

Plus there's all the noise about advertising limitations (most newspapers, magazines, networks, radio stations, etc.) won't accept advertisements for NC-17 movies, and most theaters won't show them. In other words, NC-17 was pretty much doomed before it was ever used, and it's only been used a handful of times, Showgirls, L.I.E. (I think) and Requiem For A Dream being the only ones that leap to mind.

Hrm. That's a whole lot of pointless info, isn't it?

Anyway, I'd say that in America, it's likely to be rated PG-13. Then again, somewhere around 60% of all American movies are PG-13, because of the huge market sector made up of teenagers. Teens tend (no offence) to eschew G and PG movies, and are turned away (in theory) from R movies, and -- as mentioned -- NC-17, effectively, doesn't exist.

Studios are known for cutting down to avoid an R rating, and add in to bump above a straight PG rating. However, judging by the book, I'd say it'd fall nicely into PG-13 without any mangling beyond what always happens to but a book to film (sigh)
TJHairball
04-11-2003, 11:39
HMMM I think in US it would get a PG-13 rating which means recommebded for 13+ but anyone can see it.

Actually, a sincere JG film capturing the mood of the book very well might well net an R rating... the ratings system is very subjective and based on the rather key opinions of a small handful, who may find it quite disturbing.
Celdonia
05-11-2003, 00:25
A US "R" is probably a UK "15".

If I was making the film (which obviously I'm not :lol: ) I could see that it would be pretty easy to make it an R/15. I can also see that by diluting a few bits it would make PG-13/12A as well, so I suppose we won't know until it's made.
05-11-2003, 03:52
A US "R" is probably a UK "15".

If I was making the film (which obviously I'm not :lol: ) I could see that it would be pretty easy to make it an R/15. I can also see that by diluting a few bits it would make PG-13/12A as well, so I suppose we won't know until it's made.

but diluting it wouldn't make it hot and fit to sell at rediculously high prices. You also couldn't kill the movie patrons and pretend that these people were killed for tickets to see the movie by some gheto kids.

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