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At the end of the book (which kicked ass by the way) Violet shoots Buy in the arm then runs away. Im guessing she never gets back with Hack and Him and Cliare get back together? Not really sure.

Put a spoiler warning in the topic title at least TROUSRS! It's a good thing I read the book already... why not e-mail Max Barry himself and ask? It's in his website, www.maxbarry.com/max/index.html

Too late. :wink:

I think Max intentionally left the ending open, so that way readers could decide for themselves. Or maybe he was just lazy. Or both! :)

Too late. :wink:

I think Max intentionally left the ending open, so that way readers could decide for themselves. Or maybe he was just lazy. Or both! :)

:D


Sirocco, if they haven't read the book, they will have no friken clue what i just said.

I'm guessing that they didn't get back together.

Violet's something of a tragic character in the book, largely the only one. It seems that she actually did love Hack, but was completely unable to express that emotion, and also was unable to realise that sometimes you have to put other people first. She seemed to largely just tolerate Hack, and it wasn't until she lost him that she realised how much she cared for him.

As for Hack, well, he didn't realise that he was being Captain Doormat until he hooked up with Claire, although his tendancy for being a bit obsessive gives him certain commonalities with Violet.

My personal theory is that Violet largely snapped, and could probably be found gibbering in skid row, while Hack goes off with Claire.

Of course, I could be wrong, I didn't write the book, heh.

Oh, one last thing: Violet really got a raw deal in the book. Yes, a good portion of it was her fault, but if seems that she was the primary dumping ground for "bad shit".

Well, her and Buy, heh...

, I didn't write the book, heh.

I've had suspicsion for a while that you were Max(x)..

, I didn't write the book, heh.

I've had suspicsion for a while that you were Max(x)..

Heh. Actually, I knew nothing of the book when I made this nation. Now I find that my nation praises one of the characters. Amusing, and I can see how you might think that I'm the Maxinator.

Are you SURE she's gibbering in an alleyway? I think she got invited to be an Admin for NationStates... :)

Are you SURE she's gibbering in an alleyway? I think she got invited to be an Admin for NationStates... :)

Considering all the forum crashes, and the neverending tasklist, I'd say gibbering is a likely result :P

Are you SURE she's gibbering in an alleyway? I think she got invited to be an Admin for NationStates... :)

Considering all the forum crashes, and the neverending tasklist, I'd say gibbering is a likely result :P

Gibbering on the NS server, then... :)

Are you SURE she's gibbering in an alleyway? I think she got invited to be an Admin for NationStates... :)

Considering all the forum crashes, and the neverending tasklist, I'd say gibbering is a likely result :P

Gibbering on the NS server, then... :)

Are you SURE she's gibbering in an alleyway? I think she got invited to be an Admin for NationStates... :)

Considering all the forum crashes, and the neverending tasklist, I'd say gibbering is a likely result :P

Gibbering on the NS server, then... :)

Violet's something of a tragic character in the book, largely the only one. It seems that she actually did love Hack, but was completely unable to express that emotion, and also was unable to realise that sometimes you have to put other people first. She seemed to largely just tolerate Hack, and it wasn't until she lost him that she realised how much she cared for him.

I didn't see any sign that she cared for him. I don't have the book here to quote from, but it seemed very clear to me that we was just upset at having lost something she could use. She never thought for a moment about Hack as a person. Further, while Hack had supported her financially from his own low income all through her year of virus development, but when it looked as though it would pay off, she said "This is nothing to do with him. This is mine." :?

I didn't see any sign that she cared for him. I don't have the book here to quote from, but it seemed very clear to me that we was just upset at having lost something she could use. She never thought for a moment about Hack as a person. Further, while Hack had supported her financially from his own low income all through her year of virus development, but when it looked as though it would pay off, she said "This is nothing to do with him. This is mine." :?

Perhaps I'm more charitable. I took some of her actions (especially at the beginning of the book) as caring, although in the "frustrated mother" capacity.

Again, at the end I think there was an ever so brief moment of true realisation of what she'd done. Her life was in shambles, her boyfriend was with her sister, and she had no real prospects for the future, save for the insane kidnapping gambit.

Granted, she turned her back on possible redemption, which is a good glimpse at her character, but she at least had that line to cross.

I had to to a report on my favorite book of all time. It was supposed to have a short summary and my opinion. No longer than one page typed. I ended up typing 4 1/2 pages in all, it was all basically by opinions and ideas..i got an F for not following instructions and my teacher ripped up the paper. Oh well it was worth it.

what kind of teacher punishes excessive work?

what kind of teacher punishes excessive work?
Maybe it was a case of quality over quantity? I have had that.

I'll tell you that was quality. It was a hell of a lot of quality. The quantity came out of all the quality put into it.

what kind of teacher punishes excessive work?

One that expects parameters to be followed?

what kind of teacher punishes excessive work?

One that expects parameters to be followed?

Thats the one!

Meh..

Thats no way to teach people.

On topic please.

ok, what were we talking about again?

ok, what were we talking about again?

Violet's fate, and to a lesser extent, if she ever cared for Hack at all.

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Since I'm always right, I feel I must share my overopinionated POV:

Hack: Gets hit by car while shouting about cars killing consumers

Violet: Gets screwed in every meaning of the word

Claire: Becomes a lesbian fanatic at the loss of Hack

Jennifer: In a fit of menopause, decides to become a life-size barbie doll for nostalgia's sake. Unfortunatly, surgery is permanent.

Kate: Works for Mattel.. trying to pimp the new Jennifer (now called Malibu Jen) on the side

Buy: Pistol-whipped himself to death because he couldn't figure out how to use the gun

um...
I'm sorry but I must totally disagree with your predictions and also I have to say you have quite a grim view of the way things should turn out don't you.

um...
I'm sorry but I must totally disagree with your predictions and also I have to say you have quite a grim view of the way things should turn out don't you.

Violet's something of a tragic character in the book, largely the only one. It seems that she actually did love Hack, but was completely unable to express that emotion, and also was unable to realise that sometimes you have to put other people first. She seemed to largely just tolerate Hack, and it wasn't until she lost him that she realised how much she cared for him.

I didn't see any sign that she cared for him. I don't have the book here to quote from, but it seemed very clear to me that we was just upset at having lost something she could use. She never thought for a moment about Hack as a person. Further, while Hack had supported her financially from his own low income all through her year of virus development, but when it looked as though it would pay off, she said "This is nothing to do with him. This is mine." :?

I kind of picked up on a theme of strong women using weak men. Violet uses Hack to support herself for a year while she's unemployed and pushes him around, taking advantage of his low self-image. Jennifer saves Buy from killing himself and immedeately put him to work as a babysitter. Really, who gets involved with someone that's about to shoot himself unless they want a weak and needy boyfriend they can push around?

Maybe I'm just cynical, but that's how I saw it. Maybe Max had some bad girlfriends once that pushed him around. Or maybe I'm just projecting my own past. :)

Before I finished the book I was expecting Hack to do something stupid like chase after Violet again and end up losing her and Claire both. Maybe the last scene where Hack tells Violet she's lost it means he finally became a strong enough person to not let himself be pushed around by her anymore. I also thought Claire might leave Hack ironically because she didn't like the person he became when he found the strength to leave Violet. I suppose those questions could have been answered if the book were longer, but I'm not sure I would have liked it any better.