jennifer gov't
has any one actually read the book jennifer gov't ?
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Mariusgrad
31-05-2003, 03:18
yes. it's extremely good.
Never read it. And from the sounds of it, it has an extreme liberal and anti-capitalism bias.
Atlantian Outcasts
31-05-2003, 03:21
no, never read it..........
Scolopendra
31-05-2003, 03:28
Nope, have not read it... but a friend is working through it.
Still... wrong forum.
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Philopolis
31-05-2003, 03:31
shouldn't you move it to the book jennifer government about the book forum?
i have a question... can you be safely liberal and capitalist?
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What and support Max barry and his family?....
Yes,I bought it the first day it came out in the USA. :wink:
Dragons Bay
31-05-2003, 05:41
It's not in Hong Kong.
It was a decent book, although a bit messy and predictable. Still, I enjoyed it - it offered a different (although still bleak) view of the future from 1984 and books just like it.
I really didn't like the character Violet, though. I mean, she could have done all right, if she were reworked. She changes so drastically after she sells her virus (don't want to give away too much plot, though), and it comes right out of left field. It's a complete personality shift.
Leninist Workers
31-05-2003, 05:44
It's not anti-capitalism biased, it's just a good fun read. Pretty original too.
i have a question... can you be safely liberal and capitalist?
The original definition of liberal implied capitalism. Traditional, or "small-L" liberals like me believe in freedom of people and the free market. Welfare liberals are a different sort; they brought on the concept of making sure everyone has an equitable opportunity to succeed in life. In the old definitions, conservatives actually wanted tight regulation on business. Kind of odd how the whole thing has flip-flopped.
I wonder what the character Barry cut out was like, doubt anyone knows, do you?
i have a question... can you be safely liberal and capitalist?
The original definition of liberal implied capitalism. Traditional, or "small-L" liberals like me believe in freedom of people and the free market. Welfare liberals are a different sort; they brought on the concept of making sure everyone has an equitable opportunity to succeed in life. In the old definitions, conservatives actually wanted tight regulation on business. Kind of odd how the whole thing has flip-flopped.
that's exactly what i've been confused about. i always thought that the liberal stance were pro-capitalism until some right-wings started putting together "lefties" and "anti-capitalism"...
Mariusgrad
31-05-2003, 06:42
the meanings of 'conservative' and 'liberal' have switched
Philopolis
31-05-2003, 06:46
someone explain the book
admins! get your asses to tellin' me about the book or I won't support max barry and your jobs!
lol j/k
tel me though, is it very political or sci/fi, what?
I'm pretty sure it's a political book.
someone explain the book
admins! get your asses to tellin' me about the book or I won't support max barry and your jobs!
lol j/k
tel me though, is it very political or sci/fi, what?
political to a point and FYI the mods don't get paid :wink:
I'm pretty sure it's a political book.
I wouldn't catagorize it under politics. It's a dystopian novel stressing the bleak future of too much consumerism and unregulated capitalism.
Scolopendra
31-05-2003, 07:26
We do have a book forum, don't we?
Gads! I never have to go there... stupid me
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It's a dystopia (anti-utopia)
Philopolis
01-06-2003, 10:46
someone explain the book
admins! get your asses to tellin' me about the book or I won't support max barry and your jobs!
lol j/k
tel me though, is it very political or sci/fi, what?
political to a point and FYI the mods don't get paid :wink:
"it's a joke, son!"
I really didn't like the character Violet, though. I mean, she could have done all right, if she were reworked. She changes so drastically after she sells her virus (don't want to give away too much plot, though), and it comes right out of left field. It's a complete personality shift.
In what way do you think she changed? I didn't see a shift at all. She never showed any sign of concern for anyone else; it's just that this trait didn't bring her into conflict with anyone early on, and did, later.
The Most Glorious Hack
26-08-2003, 06:55
In what way do you think she changed? I didn't see a shift at all. She never showed any sign of concern for anyone else; it's just that this trait didn't bring her into conflict with anyone early on, and did, later.
That's my general take on it too.
I think that at then end she changed, but only when she realised what she had lost. Of course, she turned into an evil psycho (much like a couple of my ex-g/f's :wink: )...
Tactical Grace
27-08-2003, 20:22
Great book, for the most part a light-hearted satire on consumer culture, with an element of crime thriller. It is not political in the sense that it rams a Liberal message down your throat, it is just a good read, people of any political persuasion can enjoy it.