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Draft: World Assembly Space Program

Denecaep
09-04-2009, 03:10
Resolution: World Assembly Space Program

RECOGNIZING that at least one half of WA nations has a space program, and that most of these nations use these space advancements for peaceful purposes.

NOTING that space programs can, have, and will promote peace between the nations of the world.

DEFINES a "space race" as a rivaling competition between two or more nations to get higher achievements in space technology.

SECTION 1 – The World Assembly Space Program

- The World Assembly shall form the World Assembly Space Program (WASP) to unite countries for the purpose of furthering space
advancements and possibly discovering new frontiers of space.

SECTION 2 – WASP council

- The WASP council shall be established with one representative from each member nation, to decide on the purposes and funding of WASP, explained below.

- Nations may choose their own strategies for choosing their representative, by appointment, election, or other.

SECTION 3 – The Starting Actions and Pledges of WASP

- WASP can never favor one country or another, or promote "space races."
- WASP will promote research discussed and agreed on by WA member nations, represented by the WASP council.
- WASP will provide aid to WA nations without a space program, and attempt to set up a space program.
- WASP will only use an amount of funding from the WA to, but not exceeding, where member nations are comfortable, which shall be defined by the WASP council. WASP, to prevent bias, will not accept funding from other sources.
- WASP will establish research facilities in all member nations, with the nation choosing the location and size of the facility; Despite this, WASP will be always open for new locations for bases and research facilities.
- WASP will not interfere with national space programs, as nations have the right to their own private research and investments in space technology.

OOC: I have taken section 4 out, but if you want to see it, it is a few posts down. I know this resolution is very unusual and new, but please give it a chance.
Also, yes I know I do not have enough endorsements, but that is because of my temporary change of regions to a small region. If people like this resolution, I will make sure I get those endorsements.
Serbian_Soviet_Union
09-04-2009, 03:16
so long as the research is not for military uses.

This is the only problem my nation has, apart from that we will support this resolution so as long as this resolution does not place any restrictions.
Denecaep
09-04-2009, 03:20
I am willing to sacrifice that part.

Also, I assure you this resolution only adds, not restricts.
Hiriaurtung Arororugul
09-04-2009, 03:22
SECTION 4 – World Assembly Space Station

- WASP will begin construction, starting in at least two years, of the World Assembly Space Station.
- The WASP council will decide on the blueprints and design of the station, which can be proposed by any individual or group.
- While basic building will begin from the source of WASP, individual member nations CAN donate parts for the station.
- The purpose of this station is akin to the purpose of WASP, to research and explore space, with purposes as decided by the WASP council.
An FT nation will be along shortly to sell you a used space station.

( OOC: In other words, yeah, I'd take that section out.)
Denecaep
09-04-2009, 03:26
This is the removed fourth section:

SECTION 4 – World Assembly Space Station

- WASP will begin construction, starting in at least two years, of the World Assembly Space Station.
- The WASP council will decide on the blueprints and design of the station, which can be proposed by any individual or group.
- While basic building will begin from the source of WASP, individual member nations CAN donate parts for the station.
- The purpose of this station is akin to the purpose of WASP, to research and explore space, with purposes as decided by the WASP council.

I understand removing it, but do you think the resolution is still long enough?
Cookesland
09-04-2009, 03:52
I understand removing it, but do you think the resolution is still long enough?

It should be long enough to clearly state, lay out the creation of, and operation of your proposal's idea. Anyways, I think this proposal's still longer than "Freedom of Assembly".
Hiriaurtung Arororugul
09-04-2009, 04:00
OOC: The World Assembly includes everything from nations of cavemen to gigantic space-faring empires. It runs the gamut from nations with no space program at all right up to Star Wars/Star Trek type tech. You have to decide how a WA space agency would function in that context. What would it do?

Personally, I would try to keep the proposal "tech neutral". If you try to accommodate all those different tech levels it will just be a mess.

Things to consider:

-A research facility (Hell, maybe even a space station. I may have been too quick advising you to take that out)

-Some sort of regulatory role. Note that FT nations will not be pleased with this, or will scoff at it.

-Aid and technological assistance to developing nations in starting their own space programs.

Probably several other possible uses too, that's just all I'm coming up with now. I'd say before you go any further trying to write it though, decide what it's supposed to do and try not to shoehorn too many things into one proposal. Do one thing and do it well. You can always write a second (or third) resolution to cover other things later.
Nistraph
09-04-2009, 04:42
Nistraph has no choice but to accept based on the badassness of the acronym.
Denecaep
09-04-2009, 12:33
Go ahead and give it more critique, as I cannot propose it just yet.
Bears Armed
09-04-2009, 12:39
OOC: "WASP"? But isn't that acronym already taken by the 'World Aquanaut Security Patrol' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_%28TV_series%29)?
^_^
Eluneyasa
09-04-2009, 13:58
SECTION 3 – The Starting Actions and Pledges of WASP

- WASP can never favor one country or another, or promote "space races."
- WASP will promote research discussed and agreed on by WA member nations, represented by the WASP council.
- WASP will provide aid to WA nations without a space station, and attempt, at the nation's permission, to set up a space program.
- WASP will only use an amount of funding from the WA to, but not exceeding, where member nations are comfortable, which shall be defined by the WASP council. WASP, to prevent bias, will not accept funding from other sources.
- WASP will establish research facilities in all member nations, with the nation choosing the location and size of the facility; Despite this, WASP will be always open for new locations for bases and research facilities.

I know I am new at this. Please forgive me if my words are inaccurate.

I believe that the part I have bolded will present a problem. If I have read the rules correctly, this cannot be an optional program. The part I bolded makes it optional. All a nation has to do is deny permission and they then don't participate at all.

RECOGNIZING that universal access to space-based platforms and systems would allow for accelerated technological and economic advances for all WA member nations.
REALIZING that a space race of privately and/or nationally owned satellites would result in extreme overcrowding of orbital and near orbital space traffic.
REALIZING FURTHER that overcrowding of our planet’s orbits would make space travel and utilization far more costly and dangerous due to a greatly increased chance of space collisions between satellites, probes, shuttles and launch vehicles.

Wouldn't space-based platforms and systems only further increase the risk of the part I bolded?

SECTION 2-The Aims and Activities of the WASA

a) The WASA shall first provide a world-wide GPS satellite system universally accessible to all WA member nations. If necessary due to orbital overcrowding, WASA shall be authorized to buy up private and state owned satellites at market price to make room for the GPS satellite network. It shall also attempt to purchase and dismantle any satellites that are deemed to present a danger for space travel or those living on our planet.

b) The WASA shall further maintain and update this GPS network with the latest technologies using its own funds, although it may choose to contract out to private or state enterprises to effect these results.

Does this include all of the communications, spy, and scientific satellites? I would think the removal of those would cause a far greater problem than it would solve.
Denecaep
09-04-2009, 14:18
OOC: Aerealus, If you do not mind, I would prefer it if you deleted that message and made a seperate thread, for now it just seems as if you are trying to copy me and upstage this resolution, as I am sure you are not actually trying to do this. That is just the way it is coming across.
Serbian_Soviet_Union
09-04-2009, 15:02
This is the removed fourth section:

SECTION 4 – World Assembly Space Station

- WASP will begin construction, starting in at least two years, of the World Assembly Space Station.
- The WASP council will decide on the blueprints and design of the station, which can be proposed by any individual or group.
- While basic building will begin from the source of WASP, individual member nations CAN donate parts for the station.
- The purpose of this station is akin to the purpose of WASP, to research and explore space, with purposes as decided by the WASP council.

I understand removing it, but do you think the resolution is still long enough?

Section 4 is written up pretty good and it shouldn't be removed as part of your resolution that your attempting to pass through the WA, i personally would not mind contributing some of the FSSU budget in funding this new space program and funding the WA Space Station and the headquarters of the space program, contributing 2% of the GDP is pretty reasonable. If this resolution is put to vote, i will strongly vote in favor and lobby for the resolution to pass and take effect on all WA member states.
Bears Armed
09-04-2009, 15:08
contributing 2% of the GDP is pretty reasonable.That depends on both your actual GDP (as some nations are already operating at 'subsistence' levels) and the extent of your existing taxation system...
Aeraleus
09-04-2009, 19:05
I know I am new at this. Please forgive me if my words are inaccurate.

I believe that the part I have bolded will present a problem. If I have read the rules correctly, this cannot be an optional program. The part I bolded makes it optional. All a nation has to do is deny permission and they then don't participate at all.



Wouldn't space-based platforms and systems only further increase the risk of the part I bolded?



Does this include all of the communications, spy, and scientific satellites? I would think the removal of those would cause a far greater problem than it would solve.

Although I will be moving this proposal to a separate thread, I'll answer here.

To your first concern, unrestricted orbital overcrowding are already happening as these systems are being deployed by state and private entities. The STC is designed to regulate the deployment of such satellites and platforms so as to maintain safe avenues for space traffic and minimize space collisions. WASA's authorization to buy up and/or dismantle existing satellites and platforms allows alleviation of existing overcrowding issues. STC approval will be required for the deployment of future systems. But space is vast, and there will always be room for new platforms.

As for the second issue, there is no provision stating that owners of such satellites should be forced to sell these assets. However, WASA and STC reserve the right to refuse services to those who do not comply with safety standards. If the owner is insistent on maintaining their existing satellites regardless of any sale price offered, WASA and STC shall work with them to come to an acceptable compromise to maintain space safety.
Nistraph
09-04-2009, 22:20
Go ahead and give it more critique, as I cannot propose it just yet.

There is nothing else to say, simply submit it as WASPand it will get precisely infinity votes based on current polling data.

In all seriousness, if you MUST improve what you have written, then clarify "It shall also attempt to purchase and dismantle any satellites that are deemed to present a danger for space travel or those living on our planet." do lazars in space count? What if their sole purpose is to defend against nuclear attack?

WHat THEN?!?!?!?!
Denecaep
09-04-2009, 22:31
Nistraph, I think you have my proposal confused with Aeraleus...
Gobbannium
15-04-2009, 00:47
SECTION 2 – WASP council

- The WASP council shall be established with one representative from each member nation, to decide on the purposes and funding of WASP, explained below.

- Nations may choose their own strategies for choosing their representative, by appointment, election, or other.

We suspect that this is teetering on the edge of violating the rules of committee formation. (OOC: in other words, we don't get to say much about who sits on committees to avoid RP chaos. You might want to get a moderator to cast their eyes over this and give a more official opinion than mine.)

We are also somewhat concerned about the unwieldy size of this committee, which is much too big to thrash out the details it seems to be intended to deal with, and the fact that it gets to determine its own remit within extraordinary generous parameters. We would join with others in suggesting that this proposal might perhaps be better if it were more tightly focused.