NationStates Jolt Archive


Public Schools

Serras-Dia
14-03-2009, 17:51
This is my proposal i need advice and help on finishing tell me your ideas.

Description: International School Network
Goals
1. All public schools in member nations are funded by a global network supported by the WA.
2. All of the schools have the same standard and are all have equal funding so all students have equal opportunities.
Reasons
1. This will help create a standardized network of schools so it makes moving from country to country.
2. All students get a equal education and all have and equal opportunity to do well in the world.
3. This will improve quality of living through out the world by helping poorer people get better jobs and better them selves.
Bears Armed
14-03-2009, 19:29
This is my proposal i need advice and help on finishing tell me your ideas.

Description: International School Network
Goals
1. All public schools in member nations are funded by a global network supported by the WA.
2. All of the schools have the same standard and are all have equal funding so all students have equal opportunities.
Reasons
1. This will help create a standardized network of schools so it makes moving from country to country.
2. All students get a equal education and all have and equal opportunity to do well in the world.
3. This will improve quality of living through out the world by helping poorer people get better jobs and better them selves.
I've already posted my thoughts about the version of thsi that you submitted here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14602349&postcount=1051)...
Basically, the WA's member nations differ so much that standardising education across them -- even if that could be justified as a suitable topic for WA legislation, which I would dispute -- and getting the result right would be impossible...

Incidentally, there's a very important point that I forgot to mention in my previous post about this proposal: Just who would be setting that shared standard, and the level of funding?
Serras-Dia
18-03-2009, 14:29
This is version 2
please comment

Public School Restructuring
Objective: Create a uniform public schooling system; expand the public schooling network and give all students equal funding per student.

Reasons:
1. A standardized public school system will allow students to move from country to country without affecting their education drastically.
2. An expansion of the public school will decrease crowding and increase quality of education.
3. By giving all schools within a nation equal funding children living in poor areas will get the same education as children in better off neighborhoods.

Plan
1. Standardize all text books used in all public schools.
2. Expand schools so there are enough schools to have a maximum of 20 students in each class.
3. Balance the funding of public schools within the nation so all schools within each nation get equal funding in relation to the other public schools in the nation.
Bears Armed
18-03-2009, 14:46
This is version 2
please comment

Public School Restructuring
Objective: Create a uniform public schooling system; expand the public schooling network and give all students equal funding per student.

Reasons:
1. A standardized public school system will allow students to move from country to country without affecting their education drastically.'Yes' to the first half of this, 'Utter nonsense!' to the second... Do you realise how widely the current educational systems in the WA's member nations, which you would sweep away and replace with this standardised one, actually differ?
2. An expansion of the public school will decrease crowding and increase quality of education.
Maybe so... if here are enough competent teachers available to fill all of the extra jobs that this expansion programme would create.
3. By giving all schools within a nation equal funding children living in poor areas will get the same education as children in better off neighborhoods.Not if a nation supplies more schools to the better-off neighbourhoods (relative to the numbers of students locally) than it does to the poor areas...

Plan
1. Standardize all text books used in all public schools.
Firstly: How? When? As this proposal doesn't establish any such standards itself (and couldn't do so, considering the maximum length to which proposals are limited...), you'd need to explicitly establish a WA committee or agency with this function... if you go ahead with the idea, which I think would be a serious mistake to make. Well, unless you're only talking about standardising the books at the national scale rather than internationally, in which case you would need to actually order the nations to do so.
Secondly: Do you mean for this standardisation to happen nationally, or internationally?
If the latter's meant to be the case then I rather believe that I've already commented on the stupidity of that idea: Apart from anything else, different nations have different langauges so that those standardised textbooks (in one language) would be absolutely useless in a lot of countries. And then there's the facts that most nations will probably want to have History and Geography textbooks that largely concentrate on their own histories & geographies; that different cultures often have differing religions (OOC: and that they don't all have the RL USA's ban on teaching religion in state-funded schools) so that any Religious Instruction classes they have will probably need non-standardised texts; and that books on Law will have to differ in different jurisdictions; and the different levels of technology at which various nations exist, and the various 'arcane' abilities that can be learnt in some lands but not in others; and so on.
And some of those factors -- primarily language, religion, and law -- could still be a problem even if you only wanted to standardise the books within each nation separately...

2. Expand schools so there are enough schools to have a maximum of 20 students in each class.Some nations simply can't afford this; or they might have to have that limit on students per class but with classes having so share teachers (and thus still getting less tuition than would be the case in larger classes that didn't have to share...).

3. Balance the funding of public schools within the nation so all schools within each nation get equal funding in relation to the other public schools in the nation.So a school with 100 pupils (which might be the maximum possible for geographical reasons, for example on islands, or might be a matter of policy for some reason or other) and a school with 1'000 pupils would receive the same funding as each other?!? A school teaching elementary matters to young children the same funding as a school of the same size that was teaching complex matters to near-adults (if the standardisation of textbooks would actually allow division of schools by age=groups)?!? A school teaching ordinary pupils the same as a school of the same size teaching pupils with 'special needs' (such as schools for the visually impaired...)?!?


Oh, and the term 'Public Schools' has (at least) two [i]different meanings possible...
JenningsandRall
18-03-2009, 20:42
I find this draft to be highly ineffective in governing the funding of school systems in countries in its current text, not to mention that it is the government of a country that should determine the funding and materials given to its school systems, not an international organization. Our nations spends has provided our public school system with nearly one hundred billion dollars, fourteen percent of our budget. Our educational facilities are top notch, our students are alotted a laptop computer and have access to online information sources, eliminating our need for textbooks. Now, we realize that this may differ in other countries, but it proves that education systems vary from meber state to member state, and it is not the job of the World Assembly to tell a country how to teach its children.

- World Assembly Ambassador Matthew Blake
Rutianas
18-03-2009, 22:42
Another education proposal.

Okay, Rutianas is strongly opposed to any education proposal that attempts to bring our education system into line with other nations. We do not want to be told what we have to teach or how to teach it. Our educational system works quite well for us. Granted, some systems may be broken. It'd be great to fix those, but in order to fix those that are broken, some nations who have working systems will only get broken by the fix.

This idea isn't a new one. It's been tossed around before. However, regulating education across the WA is not something the WA needs to be doing. The matter is a national one. Unless a proposal can be written to allow schools to work in a manner that is acceptable to them, while allowing the basic reading, writing, and arithmetic, it should have no business in the WA. The WA has no business micromanaging the education of the children of WA nations.

Paula Jenner
Skizzy Lizzy
18-03-2009, 22:56
Sorry, Serras-Dia, but we don't want your police-state loving, landscape-raping, organ-stealing elites telling us how to educate our children ... especially when your state isn't exactly doing a bang-up job educating its own children, if today's census data are to be believed.

Have a nice day.
Serras-Dia
19-03-2009, 03:44
I am scrapping this proposal so i wont work on this anymore.