NationStates Jolt Archive


Draft - Leagalize Gambling

The Soundgardens
10-03-2009, 05:00
Section - Gambling
Strength - Significant

Section 1

REQUIRES the allowance to create a gambling institution for those who have a permit.

REQUIRES the allowance for those over the age of 18 to gamble at permitted gambling institutions.

DOES NOT ALLOW the ability for gambling in unlicensed institutions or areas.

Section 2 - What is gambling

GAMBLING is the use of material items or currency to try to earn a larger sum of worth items.

GAMBLING is not playing games for no personal gain on any party's side.

Section 3 - How to obtain a permit

DO NOT ALLOW those who have defrauded on taxes to open gambling institutions.

DO NOT ALLOW those who have a criminal record that is against WA laws to open gambling institutions.


OOC: Thoughts? This is my first one, so it is probably bad :(:$ Please tell me if I should edit anything?
Shazbotdom
10-03-2009, 07:05
"The Shazbotdom Empire doesn't see why the WA should worry itself with Gabling Legislation. Shouldn't we worry more about stopping genocide within WA Member States or legislating something that will actually help the member states?"

Unnamed Intern
Urgench
10-03-2009, 11:05
"The Shazbotdom Empire doesn't see why the WA should worry itself with Gabling Legislation. Shouldn't we worry more about stopping genocide within WA Member States or legislating something that will actually help the member states?"

Unnamed Intern


Genocide has already been dealt with comprehensively by this organisation honoured Ambassador.

However we do agree that unless an international dimension to the subject of gambling can be addressed we see little enough reason to have this organisation address what is undoubtedly a purely internal matter for member nations.


Yours,
Balawaristan
10-03-2009, 14:44
Balawaristan condemns this proposal in the strongest possible terms. Our economy is famed among nations for achieving a measured balance between the concerns of production and efficiency, on the one hand, and social justice, social equality, and the environment on the other. Our economists are unanimous in finding that a legalization of gambling will contribute nothing to either.

For one, gambling is not production. It is merely the transfer of wealth from the hands of the poor to the hands of wealthy casino-owners. No real wealth is created, and there cannot be said to be any productive capacity in the mechanics of gambling. It is not work, and the evidence is that nothing is created. The jobs it does create cannot be said to be real; they are mere hirelings of corporate thieves.

Additionally, gambling fosters anti-social sentiment and is disruptive to societal progress. We do not have any moral concerns extending from some imaginary code of law given by a god, but we are concerned about the careful formation of the consciousness of society. Gambling is a sort of pornography (which is a government-owned industry here), only the desire it elicits is that of capital fetishism. Money itself, not any real good, is made the subject of erotic desire. One seeks to acquire it, it has an allure about it. It is a short step from this to evaluating all value in terms of movable currency. This is the path to dehumanization.
North Gregoria
10-03-2009, 17:39
North Gregoria objects, this proposal, if passed as a resolution would require nations to go against their moral/religious beliefs against gambling, therefore we will vote "no" if it comes to a vote. We do have legalized gambling, but wish that it not be forced on any nation.
Bears Armed
10-03-2009, 19:08
North Gregoria objects, this proposal, if passed as a resolution would require nations to go against their moral/religious beliefs against gambling, therefore we will vote "no" if it comes to a vote. We do have legalized gambling, but wish that it not be forced on any nation.Don't worry: although it requires that anybody with a permit must be allowed to build a [legal] gambling institution, it fails to require that national governments actually issue any such permits... ;)
Blasted Pirates
11-03-2009, 02:04
For one, gambling is not production. It is merely the transfer of wealth from the hands of the poor to the hands of wealthy casino-owners.



And what be wrong with that?
Cookesland
11-03-2009, 02:14
As the most Honored Ambassador from Bears Armed has said, you need to specify who is the authority going to issue these gambling permits.
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Section 2 - What is gambling

GAMBLING is the use of material items or currency to try to earn a larger sum of worth items.

I would get rid of the "What is gambling" after Section 2

You may want to edit the first clause to

DEFINES "Gambling" as the use of...et al.


It would probably be in your best interest to make your definition a little more "meat".

GAMBLING is not playing games for no personal gain on any party's side.

I see what you're trying to say, but it sounds really awkward. I'd get rid of this altogether.
Gobbannium
11-03-2009, 04:23
We have two observations.

First, the Gambling category is unusual in not having a strength, merely a "Legalize" or "Outlaw" indication.

Second, we are quite taken with section 3, though we are of the opinion that far more areas of commerce and life than mere gambling could benefit from such restrictions.

May we suggest to the honoured ambassador a different approach? Many here have taken a stance against the proposal, citing their belief that the matter is better suited to national governments. While we do not in general give much credence to some arguments, we must confess that we have never seen any compelling arguments leading us to believe that gambling should be either legal or illegal, and would therefore have issues with supporting a resolution that forced either on member nations.

We could, however, happily supported a resolution that declared that nations may choose to outlaw or legalize gambling as they desired, but that legal gambling can only be done under the licences you suggest, and that certain categories of person or organisation should be ineligible for gambling licences. Would you be prepared to recast your proposal in such a fashion?