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I am publically endorsing the noble Delegate from Kochia, the King of Byzandor and his proposal for the Internal Precautionary Act.
This act offers a security plan unmatched by any prior pieces of legislation and keeps the rights of the people in mind. I urge delegates from all parties to endorse this proposal to move forward to a safer world.

If ye be wanting to endorse it, at least have the courtesy to post it.

Intenal Precautionary Act
A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Byzandor

Description: In order for international security to thrive, internal security must meet a status quo. This proposal will establish one. With a strong internal security any terrorism or global threats can be stopped before they truly become threats

-Will increase security in many urban areas.
-Establishes a curfew with a system of penalties for breaking curfew.

-Curfew Penalty System:
1st offense- Written warning
2nd offense- Written warning with fine equal or greater to the value of 50 notes
3rd offense- Full arrest to be held in jail until bail is met if available in country plus the equivalent or greater value of a 100 note fine
4th offense- Arrest, Fine and trial by jury in concordance to national laws

-Sets a minimum national budget for Urban and rural police spending to be established by individual countries.
-If a criminal escapes a country he committed a crime in, foreign authorities are required to practice extradition to send the criminal back to the authorities of the state of which he committed the crime.
-Internal terrorism is punishable to the fullest extent of the law at the will of the authorities
-Any persons under suspicion of terrorism or extreme crimes(i.e. murder, treason, etc.) are subject to government surveillance.

AIRPORTS AND INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL
-All baggage and luggage is subject to search for illegal and dangerous paraphernalia
-Any traveler is subject at any point in time to strip searches and/or cavity searches if the proper suspicion is present.
-All travelers are required to check in with the governments of each country they travel to in order to allow maximum protection for and/or from said traveler
-Any obstruction of these policies is punishable by grounding to the country from which they came

GOVERNMENT POWERS
-Grants each individual government the power to do the following at their discretion:
-Use of individual trackers for each citizen
-Surveillance
-Unwarranted searches
-Groundings due to behavior and suspicion
-The right to question any citizen at any point in time
-The right to eminent domain
-May withhold information from the public for national security


This proposal will alleviate many problems faced within internal security. It will allow a government to offer maximum protection to its citizens and will also prevent any problems with international security.


I be certain that this be illegal because of this:

GOVERNMENT POWERS
-Grants each individual government the power to do the following at their discretion:
-Use of individual trackers for each citizen
-Surveillance
-Unwarranted searches
-Groundings due to behavior and suspicion
-The right to question any citizen at any point in time
-The right to eminent domain
-May withhold information from the public for national security

They be interfering with game mechanics. Plus, the proposal creates no means to enforce it.

Individual trackers: not illegal similar to the use of barcoding citizens a practice known to be in use by certain WA members today. A more civilized form of barcoding in my opinion
Unwarranted Searches: If it is for the common good of the people then so be it
Eminent Domain: It allows the government to use land for government use. This is something that is not outlawed currently and if it is, it should be overturned as this limits developements a government can make.
Lastly blasted pirates, your country would benefit off of a proposal like this as the crime rate would drop. Also there is a means set in by increase police and military spending to enforce the conditions set forth in the act.

Trackers and searches be infringements on individual rights which be protected under the Charter of Civil Rights.

And, we be keen to crime in Blasted Pirates. Anything else would be un-civilized.

We regret we must disagree with the honoured ambassador as regards his opinion of the legality of this proposal -- our opinion of the content of this vile piece of authoritarianism can be taken as read. The proposal quite clearly states that it sets minima for national budgetary spending on policing. It does not say what those minima are, but if the clause is to be deemed have any meaning at all it is clearly overreaching the established powers of the WA. If the clause is meaningless, then so is a majority of the remainder of the proposal which is equally loosely worded, and it should be rejected as such.

(OOC: I am not a mod, but I'd be prepared to put actual money on this being a Games Mechanics violation.)

In addition, the categorisation of this proposal as "International Security" is at best wishful thinking. Almost none of the proposal's requirements are international in any respect, with most focusing on the oppression of the nation's own citizenry.

Further, the level of detail put into the penalties for curfew-breaking is micromanagement of the highest ineptitude, and for someone who has accused the recently passed Fairness in Criminal Trials of dictating how their courts are run to support this is more than a little hypocritical. Fortunately for the WA, we suspect we would not be the only nation perfectly prepared to issue "the note", a currency we would declare to be officially worthless.

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{OOC}Thanks for saying something, I didn't want to have to explain that IC.{/OOC}

Indeed we would concur with the honoured Ambassador for Blasted Pirates, that this law is discriminatory in nature, or is at least liable to be so, and is therefore illegal. Naturally it has other more strikingly obvious illegalities of which the honoured and esteemed Ambassador for Gobbannium has mad us aware.


Quite apart from these concerns it is incumbent upon us to point out that this law is a disgusting and offensive attempt to outrage basic human dignity and freedom. Naturally we would oppose it on this basis alone, and will do so.

The authors of this tissue of tyranny should be ashamed of themselves.


Yours,

We can figure out how to manage our internal security just fine, and we'd rather not impose some piece of authoritarian drivel in place of our own laws. As others have already noted, this probably isn't even legal to boot. Opposed.

-Arjel Khazaran, Deputy Ambassador

Indeed both illegal (in my view, certainly I am far from a moderator) However even if it were legal , I would never give it my approval. Fully Opposed to this travesty of a resolution.

Fortunately for the WA, we suspect we would not be the only nation perfectly prepared to issue "the note", a currency we would declare to be officially worthless.This refers to paper money, yes? That's not something that we use, because us Bears prefer more tangible forms of wealth... Hr'rmm, if this proposal were to pass then we'd probably say that 'note' = 'leaf from a tree'...
But anyway, under this proposal's terms, we could set the curfew-period as being much too short a period of time for observation of it being broken to be possible: say, in terms of the system that some Human-run nations use, one particular 'micro-second' each night...

I am publically endorsing the noble Delegate from Kochia, the King of Byzandor and his proposal for the Internal Precautionary Act.
This act offers a security plan unmatched by any prior pieces of legislation and keeps the rights of the people in mind. I urge delegates from all parties to endorse this proposal to move forward to a safer world.

Even if this proposal was legal, the answer would be not just "no," but "Hell, no."

Even if this proposal was legal, the answer would be not just "no," but "Hell, no."

You forgot to add an "ARRRRRR!!" in there.:tongue:

If such a proposal was put to voting, we would resign from the WA immediately following the proposals approval in the WA.

"The Empire is thoroughly against this proposal. We feel that it should be up to the individual nations on what security measures that they are to put in place for travel within their nations, as well as international travel coming to their nation from foreign locations. The plead to the membership of the World Assembly to not support this piece of misguided legislation."

-Greg Anderson, Deputy Director of Transportation

OOC: wow... and I thought the Patriot Act was a heap of overreactive bull...

IC: I do not believe I will even bother requesting Madam Delegate's opinion on this one. I'll be damned if I'll some high-and-mighty council treat me as a four year old. Not only will you fail to receive the approval of the Delegacy, I will personally campaign against this should the impossible happen, and it manages to reach quorum. Granted, I doubt I'll need to, but I'll do it anyway. On principle.