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before, i had tried pressing a repeal of this clearly flawed resolution and failed. the co-author of this proposal, the Respected Ambassador from The Altan Steppes, also failed though he got farther than I. since then i was referred to him and his efforts at our similar cause. we have combined both our repeals to create this one which will hopefully be sufficient to pass:

Repeal “Prevention of Terrorism”

ACKNOWLEDGING the resolution’s valiant effort to fight and eliminate both international and internal terrorism,

NOTING that the Prevention of Terrorism resolution fails to ever define or interpret what constitutes a terrorist, terrorist organization, or terrorism,

REGRETTING that the proposal allows too broad an interpretation of the controversial words mentioned above,

REALIZING that such undefined terms could lead to false accusations between member states toward possibly innocent and neutral states, which could lead to declarations of war, and endangering international peace,

NOTING that the resolution in question does not outline any specific steps or take any concrete action that would actually protect WA member states from terrorism;

FURTHER NOTING that the resolution does not bar member states from providing financial or material support for terrorist individuals or organizations;

FURTHER REGRETTING that the resolution in question prevents more effective legislation on terrorism from being introduced;

SEEKING an opportunity to establish a better, more accurate resolution to help more effectively fight global terrorism with well established definitions of those mentioned in this and former Resolutions,

The World Assembly hereby repeals the “Prevention of Terrorism” resolution.


note: we are currently working on a replacement to the resolution repealed.

Co-author: Altan Steppes

feel free to criticize.

It seems to me to be a good reason to repeal the "Prevention of Terrorism" resolution, but I wouldn't vote for it without first seeing what you plan to put in its place. Leaving a vacuum would be worse than having the initial law.

i apologize, but i believe that my co-author is finishing up the replacement and will post it himself on the forums when done.

Oh, I knew it was coming. I was just letting you know that the only serious weakness to your repeal was the lack of something to replace it. Otherwise, I see no issues with it.

well thank you.

This works for us. You should probably just list us as the co-author, and yourself as the author. Other than that, we have no quibbles.

Respected Ambassador of the Altan Steppes,

at the end of the resolution, i have already listed us both as co-authors. thank you for your input.

It seems to me to be a good reason to repeal the "Prevention of Terrorism" resolution, but I wouldn't vote for it without first seeing what you plan to put in its place. Leaving a vacuum would be worse than having the initial law.


Why is this the case honoured Ambassador? The national laws of the Empire of Urgench are infinitely superior to the current statutory implements on terrorism and we would rather the have the clumsy and inadequate international provisions on this matter removed and we have no opinion on a possible replacement.

yours e.t.c. ,

Respected Ambassador of the Altan Steppes,

at the end of the resolution, i have already listed us both as co-authors. thank you for your input.

BZZT!! Red flag! The Branding rules allow for one co-author. Besides, if you're the one submitting it you'll be listed as the author so there's no need for you to be listed as co-author too.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

i apologize. i'll fix it up immediately.

this repeal is going to make way for a repleacment which is titled "WA Counterterrrism ACT" in the forums above

is this all done? should i introduce it to the delegates?

You need to post your edited version in the first post, replacing what's there. Until people have had a chance to actually view the final version, it's impossible to say "it's ready".

this is the final version, starting from "Repeal 'Prevention of Terrorism" to "Resolution" right before the note.

ACKNOWLEDGING the resolution’s valiant effort to fight, and eliminate both international and internal terrorism,
That first comma is incorrect.

NOTING that the Prevention of Terrorism resolution fails to ever define, or interpret what constitutes a terrorist, terrorist organization, or terrorism.
The first comma is incorrect again, and the final full stop should be a comma for consistency.

WHILE REALIZING that such undefined terms could lead to false accusations between member states toward possibly innocent and neutral states,

Which could inevitably lead to declarations of war, and endangering International Peace,
The "WHILE" is a bit out of place given the structure of the surrounding clauses. I recommend you lose it. I also strongly recommend that you lose the paragraph break between these two clauses, since they aren't really separate things at all. Capitalising "International Peace" also goes against the style you've established, and looks awfully portentious.

SEEKING an opportunity at establishing a better, more accurate resolution to help more effectively fight global terrorism with well established definitions of those mentioned in this and former Resolutions,
Perhaps "to establish" rather than "at establishing"?

note: we are currently working on a replacement to the resolution repealed.
NO! Horrid, horrid, horrid! Footnotes do not belong in law. Either say this outright in the main text (which the "SEEKING" clause very nearly does anyway) or omit it entirely.

no no, i think you misuderstood the note. it won't be in the law. it's just a note to the reader in the forums.

Oh. So does that mean that you aren't crediting The Altan Steppes as a co-author? I ask because it also matters if you're intending to including the "Author:" line, which would be illegal.

OOC: It might make things a bit clearer to us readers if you stick INDENT tags around the literal text of the resolution. I suggest INDENT rather than QUOTE because Jolt's cruddy interface doesn't quote text in QUOTE tags for you.

BZZT!! Red flag! The Branding rules allow for one co-author. Besides, if you're the one submitting it you'll be listed as the author so there's no need for you to be listed as co-author too.
i apologize. i'll fix it up immediately.

This is exactly why I suggested you wait before submitting. You didn't fix it.

Removed for Branding violation.

I've taken the liberty of revising our joint effort slightly for clarity and to make sure any legality issues are addressed before we re-submit. Does this pass muster with everyone?

Repeal “Prevention of Terrorism”

ACKNOWLEDGING the resolution’s valiant effort to fight and eliminate both international and internal terrorism,

NOTING that the Prevention of Terrorism resolution fails to ever define or interpret what constitutes a terrorist, terrorist organization, or terrorism,

REGRETTING that the proposal allows too broad an interpretation of the controversial words mentioned above,

REALIZING that such undefined terms could lead to false accusations between member states toward possibly innocent and neutral states, which could lead to declarations of war, and endangering international peace,

NOTING that the resolution in question does not outline any specific steps or take any concrete action that would actually protect WA member states from terrorism;

FURTHER NOTING that the resolution does not bar member states from providing financial or material support for terrorist individuals or organizations;

FURTHER REGRETTING that the resolution in question prevents more effective legislation on terrorism from being introduced;

SEEKING an opportunity to establish a better, more accurate resolution to help more effectively fight global terrorism with well established definitions of those mentioned in this and former Resolutions,

The World Assembly hereby repeals the “Prevention of Terrorism” resolution.

Co-author: The Altan Steppes

I would've added this to the OP, but I didn't start the OP.

thank for clearing it all up Altan Steppes.

One last thing:

REALIZING that such undefined terms could lead to false accusations between member states toward possibly innocent and neutral states, which could inevitably lead to declarations of war, and endangering international peace,

"Could inevitably"? That's like saying "definitely maybe", only without making as much sense.

Noted and removed the word "inevitably". Does this work for everyone?

respected ambassador, you can do the honor of introducing this repeal if you like as i am dealing with some regional drama right now that needs me attention.

plz don't forget to list me as Author or Co-Author which ever.

If we submit it, it will automatically list us as the author. We can list you as co-author if you like. Or, we can wait until your regional issues die down and then you can submit it. Let us know which approach you would prefer.

right now it seems like my regional issue may last a bit. i wouldn't mind introducing it, and naming you as co-author as we planned before. however, if you feel the need to immediately introduce it then feel free to. just keep me posted when you do introduce it. we just have to get this repeal done to get it's replace out there.

regional conflicts almost resolved. once they're done, i'll be able to introduce it..

That works. Please TG me when you plan to introduce the repeal, that way we can get other interested nations to help with TG'ing to get it to quorum. I still have the list of delegates who approved the first repeal I submitted.

well thank you for your help my friend. regional efforts are done with and i'll TG you once i plan to propose it. thank you.

As someone else said. You don't need to list yourself at the bottom as "Author", as that would already be posted in the proposal header. You should take that out.

You don't need to list yourself at the bottom as "Author

And indeed, it's illegal to.

i apologize and have made the changes.

Wachichi, are we going with the version that I had edited? If so, you might want to re-post this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14102986&postcount=20) in the opening post for clarity.

oh i apologize if totally forgot and will do so.