NationStates Jolt Archive

Delegates, please consider this proposal (now voting).

I. REALIZING that recreational drugs often cause adverse effects to those who use them

II. DEFINES a recreational drug as a substance that is eaten, chewed, injected, smoked, taken as a pill or ingested through the nose that causes a change in sensory perception that is not prescribed by a licensed physician, such as cocaine, heroin, marijuana, or methamphetamine.

III. DEFINES a licensed physician as a medical professional who has undergone training to prove a sound knowledge of the working of the human body

IV. PROHIBITS the sale, importation, exportation, creation, or modification of any recreational drug by any civilian, corporation, or government agency

V. MANDATES
(a) that any civilian found to be in violation of this be prosecuted in accordance of the laws of the nation
(b) that any recreational drugs illegally found in the possession of a civilian be confiscated
(c) that any government agent found to be in violation of this resolution be removed from his position

VI. CREATES a World Assembly Recreational Drug Arbitration Committee in charge of resolving any disputes regarding what is to be considered a recreational drug under Article II of this resolution.

VI. CREATES a World Assembly Recreational Drug Arbitration Committee in charge of resolving any disputes regarding what is to be considered a recreational drug under Article II of this resolution.

Not bad, until I read article 4.. Another organism created under the auspice of WA that will tell me how to run my internal affair.

Respected Ambassador, why should the people of the Empire of Urgench submit to your nation's silly and unreasonable prohibitionism?

Indeed why should any other nation submit itself to what is a totally incompetent and shody statute full of specious and obnoxious presumptions?


It is considered good manners to post a draft resolution before it is submitted for approval by regional delegates, in order that better informed and more experienced member states can offer advice and recommendations for the improvement of that statute.

yours e.t.c. ,

I agree that this resolution need MAJOR improvements. Article 2 need to be much more clear as 'recreational drug not prescribe can also mean alcohol, caffeine, or tobacco. and article 4 about mandate needs major addition. But I salute efforts to prohibit such dangerous drug.

The citizens of Urgench are at liberty to do with their bodies as they wish without the dead hand of government interferance, actual levels of drug use are quite high but since all drugs are regulated in quality and quantity by the government there are nearly no adverse effects associated with drug use under prohibitionist regimes.

Many, many honest Urgenchis would be made redundant if our nation's regulated recreational drugs industry was suddenly banned, is the respected Ambassador for Very Large Exsplosions' government promising to compensate hundreds of thousands of Urgenchis and for that matter millions of other citizens of w.a. member states with similar policies to ours for their loss of livelyhood?

yours e.t.c.,

The citizens of Urgench are at liberty to do with their bodies as they wish without the dead hand of government interferance

Not if this resolution passes

II. DEFINES a recreational drug as a substance that is eaten, chewed, injected, smoked, taken as a pill or ingested through the nose that causes a change in sensory perception that is not prescribed by a licensed physician, such as cocaine, heroin, marijuana, or methamphetamine.

Rutianas studies the field of psionics. We often use substances that have proven to increase certain sensory perceptions to make it easier to access our abilities to teach us how to better use it while not under the influence.

We have studied this substance and found it completely safe to use in people as young as five years of age, not that we do allow our five year olds to take it. Most psionic studies begin at twelve. In three generations, there have been no ill effects. This is not something new that's being used, but something that we have used for centuries.

Because of this definition, our substances would be deemed a 'recreational drug' and thus illegal.

Opposed.

MapleLeafss;14053488']Not if this resolution passes

Just as water is wet and the great sand desert is dry Ambassador this resolution will not pass under any circumstances. We will bet you 100,000 Darangs that this resolution will never even reach vote.

yours e.t.c ,

I. REALIZING that recreational drugs often cause adverse effects to those who use them

II. DEFINES a recreational drug as a substance that is eaten, chewed, injected, smoked, taken as a pill or ingested through the nose that causes a change in sensory perception that is not prescribed by a licensed physician, such as cocaine, heroin, marijuana, or methamphetamine.

We would like to point out that, technically, this happens to include oxygen. Oxygen is particularly noted for changing sensory perception, depending on how much of it the subject is exposed to, and too much oxygen has been known to cause detrimental effects upon those who are exposed to too much of it.

We also would like to note that, within our nation, marijuana is a prescription drug. It is prescribed in cases of medical conditions with extreme pain associated with them that are permanent and which normal medication cannot always address. Typical cases are certain cancers, certain migraines, and a few others. All legal marijuana fields are under the control of the House of Sheep.

Thirdly, we would like to note that this also includes certain of our hotsprings, which have natural gases seeping from them that have been shown to alter sensory perception. We currently are unsure how to deal with that, since the hotsprings are a natural phenomenon and any attempt to deal with the gases in particular would require alterations to the natural environment that might prove highly detrimental to that environment.

DEFINES a licensed physician as a medical professional who has undergone training to prove a sound knowledge of the working of the human body

So a licensed professional may prescribe drugs for sapient nonhumans as long as they are familiar with human anatomy, even if they have no knowledge of the species for which they are prescribing drugs? Methinks your nation should be the one to pay for any damages that result from such a practice. We expect lawsuits to be in the trillions of dollars of damage within the first ten years.

VI. PROHIBITS the sale, importation, exportation, creation, or modification of any recreational drug by any civilian, corporation, or government agency

V. MANDATES
(a) that any civilian found to be in violation of this be prosecuted in accordance of the laws of the nation
(b) that any recreational drugs illegally found in the possession of a civilian be confiscated
(c) that any government agent found to be in violation of this resolution be removed from his position

And what of drugs used in religious ceremonies? Are you telling me that no one may use a mind-expanding drug to celebrate their deity simply because that drug could possibly be used by people in ways that lie outside the religious experience? I'm sure people of a religious background won't mind being persecuted by the international community just because their belief system involves lighting a plant on fire and said plant just happens to have an interesting side-effect.

VI. CREATES a World Assembly Recreational Drug Arbitration Committee in charge of resolving any disputes regarding what is to be considered a recreational drug under Article II of this resolution.

In other words, a committee gets to tell our nation what is and what isn't legal, in spite of any social reasons for the decisions we make and any potentially disasterous ramifications of their decision. That is why we're not a democracy or a republic in the first place.

Diplomat Xen Felgras

I hope and pray this resolution never sees the light of day, but as it will, hmmmmm...well more on that later....

Marijuana is perfectly legal in Scotchpinestan and we see no reason for that to change. We oppose this proposal.

All of the Peoples of Sasquatchewain's reservations towards this proposal have been raised by other members of the Assembly.

Opposed.

The people of Arachville do not believe that it is the place of the World Assembly to legislate what they can and cannot put into their bodies. Fighting illegal drug trading would be much more in line with what this organisation could be put to use for, yet they will not submit their bodies to this proposal.

Delegates, please consider this proposal (now voting).

Frankly we can't think of a faster way of spreading the use of recreational drugs. That said, there are a few cock-ups that would let us effectively ignore this, so I'm not too upset.

V. MANDATES
(a) that any civilian found to be in violation of this be prosecuted in accordance of the laws of the nation
Fortunately the laws of the nation can quite happily make the penalty "paying the tax owed on the drugs if you haven't done so already." OK, so that's a stretch, but hey, with something this fundamentally wrong I'm inclined to stretch.

(b) that any recreational drugs illegally found in the possession of a civilian be confiscated
Of course, the officers concerned will have to be disciplined for illegally finding the drugs. We'll be leaving legally found drugs alone for the most part.

*Snip*

I note you have not seen fit to address very valid concerns raised over the legality of caffine, nicotine and alchohol under this proposal as well as all non-prescription painkillers I might add

Due to several concerns raised by other members of the World Assembly, and my own failure to properly submit a draft before submitting this proposal, I hereby withdraw my own support for this proposal, and wish, in the future, to continue to improve this proposal.

The Kingdom of Atanatai and its people are completly opposed to this measure for reasons stated by other fine members of this assembly.

this proposal could get some more support if you just got rid of the Committe thing. The idea of a committee also struck me hard. Get that part out. and maybe you'll have more support.

this proposal could get some more support if you just got rid of the Committe thing. The idea of a committee also struck me hard. Get that part out. and maybe you'll have more support.


In all honesty the respected Ambassador for Wachichi is naive indeed if they think that the creation of a committee is the primary cause or even a large part of the oppostion to this resolution.

yours e.t.c. ,

If you can concentrate on large scale of cultivation, production, and manufacture of illicit drug by organized crime instead of personal possession and personal consumption, you might get more support..

MapleLeafss;14056744']If you can concentrate on large scale of cultivation, production, and manufacture of illicit drug by organized crime instead of personal possession and personal consumption, you might get more support..

we of axmanland resent the implication that the large scale production and trade in narcotics is somehow immoral
we produce perfectly legally hundreds of thousands of tons of high grade potent psychogenics every month and we sell and ship these substances to any and all regions where they are legal.

we engage in a legitimate international trade and in BECAUSE it is a legal trade we do not suffer from the violence associated with illegality in general.

in short all this bill would do is bring back the horrors of secrecy organised crime and general misery that always accompany all forms of prohibition

all sane peoples who genuinely understand that 99% of the harm caused by drugs is caused by prohibition will stand against this ill informed knee jerk reactionary drivel

This would include COFFEE!!!!!

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! OVER MY DEAD FREAKIN' BODY AND OUT MY COLD DEAD HANDS, SISTER!!!

AAAAARRRREEEEHHHHH!!! OOOOUUUURREEEEGGGH... HACK. HACK. sorry.

Recreational drug use is legal in the Federation, and is managed in our nation through legislation, enforcement, regulation and taxation just like any other business. We find that such a policy works just fine and see no reason to change it. Not to mention, it would put a moralist-sized hole in our export market. Opposed.

-Arjel Khazaran, Deputy Ambassador