NationStates Jolt Archive

To the delegate from the Altan Steppes: the Jamahiriyastani people joined the WA in order to be part of a league of friendship with other nations, not to regulate the affairs of other nations except to promote diplomacy and trade. It is the responsibility, and, ultimately, the decision of the people of one nation on how to treat its people fairly, not the entire world.

We, the people of Jamahiriyastan, do strongly object to these imperialist undercurrents which have begun to overtake this esteemed assembly. We can only pray towards Mecca and ask our Creator to make the other delegates see light.

To the delegate from the Altan Steppes: the Jamahiriyastani people joined the WA in order to be part of a league of friendship with other nations, not to regulate the affairs of other nations except to promote diplomacy and trade. It is the responsibility, and, ultimately, the decision of the people of one nation on how to treat its people fairly, not the entire world.

We, the people of Jamahiriyastan, do strongly object to these imperialist undercurrents which have begun to overtake this esteemed assembly. We can only pray towards Mecca and ask our Creator to make the other delegates see light.


Imperialism honoured Ambassador ? How absurd, be rest assured the government of the Emperor of Urgench has no designs whatsoever on the freedom of your state, and you may rest easy in your bed that the Confederated Sublime Khanate does not eye Jamahiriyastan with envy of any kind.


Yours,

Imperialism honoured Ambassador ? How absurd, be rest assured the government of the Emperor of Urgench has no designs whatsoever on the freedom of your state, and you may rest easy in your bed that the Confederated Sublime Khanate does not eye Jamahiriyastani with envy of any kind.


Yours,
Says the representative of a government which has conquered and continues to subjugate most of Eurasia...

Says the representative of a government which has conquered and continues to subjugate most of Eurasia...

The empire has existed for thousands of years, its citizens are joyfull at the peace and prosperity it has created and loyal to his Divine Majesty, which is more than can be said for the prison house of arctic states Aundotutunagir violently snatched from freedom and continues to press into slavery to this day.


Yours sincerely,

The empire has existed for thousands of years, its citizens are joyfull at the peace and prosperity it has created and loyal to his Divine Majesty, which is more than can be said for the prison house of arctic states Aundotutunagir violently snatched from freedom and continues to press into slavery to this day.


Yours sincerely,

And this ambassador of the self-professed Urgenchi Empire insists that the Urgenchi are not using the WA to advance their imperialist aims.

We here in Tai Lao have yet to see how the promotion of individuals rights is actually imperialism. Quite the contrary, we see the suppression of those rights as imperialism, which is why we support this.

-Ariovist Lynxkind, Ambassador

And this ambassador of the self-professed Urgenchi Empire insists that the Urgenchi are not using the WA to advance their imperialist aims.

The empire has not expanded beyond the limits its founder, the incomparable Tengri Khaghan, and his sons set for it many many hundreds of years ago, indeed it would be abhorent to our people to do so since it would insult these revered person's memories.

Since then the empire has been divided into numerous constituent Autonomous States and regions all with their own democratic institutions. It is called the Confederated Sublime Khanate of Urgench for a reason. You may familiarise yourself with Urgench and make more educated guesses at its motives by reading about it here http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=Urgench .


Any further insult to our honor with slanderous accusations will only serve to incriminate those who make them and prove the moral bankruptcy of much of the opposition to this statute.


Yours,

Any further insult to our honor with slanderous accusations will only serve to incriminate those who make them and prove the moral bankruptcy of much of the opposition to this statute.
Your Emperor wears women's undergarments.

Your Emperor wears women's undergarments.


That may or may not be true noble General, the details of his Divine Majesty's intimate apparel are not a matter of public record, and it would be deeply disrespectful of us to entertain any further speculation on the matter.

Yours,

At the risk of missing the point entirely, Subistratica votes against this resolution (as if there's any point in voting against it now...).

At the risk of missing the point entirely, Subistratica votes against this resolution (as if there's any point in voting against it now...).


As you see fit honoured Ambassador, we respect your nation's decision.


Yours sincerely

:mad:Nations should exercise whatever rights they want. WE DON'T NEED SOME RUBBISH RESOLUTION TO TELL US WHAT OUR RIGHTS ARE!:eek: I am aghast at the number of votes this has gotten!WE MUST NOT LET THIS BECOME LAW! :hail:

This will pass with a very easy margin as most anyone could have told you it would. But we did oppose it never the less. Congratulations on passage.

Your Emperor wears women's undergarments.

Zarquon overheard this through Joebot's transmitter and thought the Amabassador was talking about him.

[static]Well not all kinds you know. Only the little frilly ones the la.... Oh dear. You were talking to him. Oh my. Well, they aren't really women's undergarments per say. More or less general undergarments that tend to lead towards the feminine species. This is Sintar maxem by the way.[static]

[static]Oh and Zarquon Froods abstains. Enough with these HR's already.[static]

At the risk of sounding triumphant we would like to take this opportunity to thank all the other delegations whose invaluable assistance made it possible for this statute to be passed.

Indeed so long was this resolution in development that it bears the true hallmark of a collaboration of a general kind. We feel this proves that despite the disparate and varied character of this organisation's membership it remains possible, with patience and a spirit of understanding, for this organisation to work collectively for the betterment and increase of civilisation.

We thank all those who have voted for this resolution and commend them for the historic contribution to the cause of freedom and decency.

Certain delegations, more numerous than it could be possible to enumerate without our insulting some by forgetting to name them specifically, we owe a very great debt indeed for their contribution to the success of this statute, they know who they are and we thank them from the very bottom of our hearts.

His Divine Majesty the Emperor of Urgench himself has asked us to convey his felicitations and and thanks to the membership of this organisation and to those delegations who have made themselves so indispensable to this effort, and his commendation that their hordes ride swift across the plain and ever to their banners for all time.


Yours with satisfaction, Mongkha, Khan of Kashgar, Yarkand, and Khotan, Cupbearer of the Emperor, Ilkhan of Kucha, Ambassador to the World Assembly for the Confederated Sublime Khanate of Urgench.

The resolution The Charter of Civil Rights was passed 3,076 votes to 1,513, and implemented in all WA member nations.

We congratulate the representative from Urgench, and all of those who helped formulate, on the passage of this resolution.

-Ariovist Lynxkind, Ambassador

This is excellent... the WA and Urgench's delegations at its best.

This is excellent... the WA and Urgench's delegations at its best.


Thank you honoured Ambassador.


Yours,

This is excellent... the WA and Urgench's delegations at its best.

Yes, soon we will have the Urgenchi running Jamahiriyastan. Once again, the People's Republic would like its strong opposition to this resolution's passage to be noted. Should the Urgenchi, under the banner of the WA, attempt to force this resolution upon us through sheer strength, the esteemed Khanate should prepare for consequences.

Yes, soon we will have the Urgenchi running Jamahiriyastan. Once again, the People's Republic would like its strong opposition to this resolution's passage to be noted. Should the Urgenchi, under the banner of the WA, attempt to force this resolution upon us through sheer strength, the esteemed Khanate should prepare for consequences.


Really honoured Ambassador you are embarrassing yourself. We have no intentions towards or interest in your nation whatsoever, frankly we could not care less what happens to it.

But your membership of this organisation means that your state is automatically in absolute compliance with this law. Such are the rules by which this organisation functions. No armies need be sent to your nation honoured Ambassador, to enforce this statute, it is already in full effect in Jamahiriyastan without the need for such absurd measures.

Threatening us will only serve to make your nation look ridiculous honoured Ambassador and we suggest you apologise for doing so or face the derision and contempt of this entire organisation.


Yours,

Really honoured Ambassador you are embarrassing yourself. We have no intentions towards or interest in your nation whatsoever, frankly we could not care less what happens to it.

But your membership of this organisation means that your state is automatically in absolute compliance with this law. Such are the rules by which this organisation functions. No armies need be sent to your nation honoured Ambassador, to enforce this statute, it is already in full effect in Jamahiriyastan without the need for such absurd measures.

Threatening us will only serve to make your nation look ridiculous honoured Ambassador and we suggest you apologise for doing so or face the derision and contempt of this entire organisation.


Yours,

Need I remind the honoured ambassador that the WA is not run by the Urgenchi. Your excellency has no right whatsoever to speak for this entire august body. As all nations are guaranteed equal treatment under the WA Charter so long as they comply with its rules, we are entitled and completely within our boundaries to call into question the measure of influence the Urgenchi hold, or seek to impose, on the WA.

:)I thought this was one of the best issues ever put to vote in the WA

Need I remind the honoured ambassador that the WA is not run by the Urgenchi. Your excellency has no right whatsoever to speak for this entire august body. As all nations are guaranteed equal treatment under the WA Charter so long as they comply with its rules, we are entitled and completely within our boundaries to call into question the measure of influence the Urgenchi hold, or seek to impose, on the WA.



When have we implied, or explicitly indicated that we "run" the w.a. ? We have written one resolution which has been voted by a substantial majority of this organisation's members into law that is all.

You do not like this law, honoured Ambassador, that much is clear, your nation can either find some clever way of legally evading the provisions of this resolution which we fear is deeply unlikely considering that it was written specifically to prevent such an outcome, or it can write a cogent repeal for which you will have to canvass enough support to bring to vote or you can leave the w.a.

Continuing to insult and threaten us is pointless, childish and imbecilic.

Yours,

When have we implied, or explicitly indicated that we "run" the w.a. ?

By seeking to bully and alienate a tiny nation, new to the WA, simply for opposing the resolution and believing that the honored Urgenchi Khanate might have ulterior motives in seeking this resolution's passage.

Perhaps we are wrong, yes, but there is certainly no way to prove it, as your Excellency would never admit openly that your nation has ulterior motives. That does not change the fact that the humble people of Jamahuriyastan are completely within their rights to wholeheartedly oppose this resolution and seek its repeal, as well as question the motives of its originator.

By seeking to bully and alienate a tiny nation, new to the WA, simply for opposing the resolution and believing that the honored Urgenchi Khanate might have ulterior motives in seeking this resolution's passage.

Perhaps we are wrong, yes, but there is certainly no way to prove it, as your Excellency would never admit openly that your nation has ulterior motives. That does not change the fact that the humble people of Jamahuriyastan are completely within their rights to wholeheartedly oppose this resolution and seek its repeal, as well as question the motives of its originator.



We have bullied no one, it is the honoured Ambassador for Jamahiriyastan who has made violent threats and imprecations.

Continuing to imply that we have ulterior motives in bringing an anti-discrimination statute before this organisation is without doubt one of the most preposterous things we have ever witnessed in an organisation famed for its love of elaborate absurdity.


Yours,

We have bullied no one, it is the honoured Ambassador for Jamahiriyastan who has made violent threats and imprecations.

Continuing to imply that we have ulterior motives in bringing an anti-discrimination statute before this organisation is without doubt one of the most preposterous things we have ever witnessed in an organisation famed for its love of elaborate absurdity.


Yours,

At what point did we in any way threaten the honoured Urgenchi Khanate? We have simply invoked our right to self-defense, in case any other nation, including the Khanate, would seek to tighten their influence on us.

At what point did we in any way threaten the honoured Urgenchi Khanate? We have simply invoked our right to self-defense, in case any other nation, including the Khanate, would seek to tighten their influence on us.

Um, right here:

Should the Urgenchi, under the banner of the WA, attempt to force this resolution upon us through sheer strength, the esteemed Khanate should prepare for consequences.

You assume he is "running" the WA and that he's going to use force to bring you in compliance with this resolution. He can't, nobody runs the WA and no one ever will, period. And the fact of the matter is your nation is in compliance with this resolution at this very moment whetherou like it or not. Got an issue with it, draft a repeal and try to get it passed. Otherwise quit bitching, or leave the WA. That's the only way you'll get out of complying with it.

As all nations are guaranteed equal treatment under the WA Charter so long as they comply with its rules,

Charter? What charter? Did we pass a charter and I somehow missed it or is the ambassador from Jamahiriyastan suffering from diarrhea of the mouth? I suspect it's the latter as the Urgenchi people won't be imposing anything on the Jamahirhyastani people after all, everyone knows that the enforcement of WA resolutions is handled by the WA Gnomes (http://www.nationstates.net/the_wa_gnomes).

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

OOC: Relax, just playing the part of belligerent dictator/rogue nation.

Jamahiriyastan merely asks that our internal affairs be left alone and intact, just as we leave yours.

We suggest the honoured Ambassador for Jamahiriyastan familiarise themself with the full canon of this organisation's laws. National prerogative has been fundamentally undermined in much more far reaching ways already on numerous occasions. By comparison this statute is minute in its effect on national government.

Unless of course the national governments in question thrive on rampant discrimination, in which case we are very glad that they will no longer be able to do so.


Yours,

You do not like this law, honoured Ambassador, that much is clear, your nation can either find some clever way of legally evading the provisions of this resolution which we fear is deeply unlikely considering that it was written specifically to prevent such an outcome,
And if a national goverment simply declares that maintaining its country's well-established cultural traditions constitutes "compelling practical purposes" for continuing to allow some form[s] of discrimination beyond those that the government of Urgench considers appropriate, what then? Given the looseness of the clause concerned and the term "compelling practical purposes", that looks like a legal enough interpretation to me...
(OOC: :p)