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I am hoping to gain enough support from this forum to repost as an official WA proposal again. It's so hard to get through the less quality proposals there that I understand why proposals aren't coming through. However, I promise to repost this once at least 50 people here have shown some support. Please help to get this to the general vote even if you aren't sure your nations would vote for it. Otherwise, the WA has become defunct once again.

Thanks!
Revolutionary times

Description: The Free Education for All bill will require the government to provide all children legally in a country free education through university.

RECOGNIZING that education is an important factor in strengthening the world and individual nations' economies;

NOTING that education increases active citizenship and reduces the need for welfare;

BELIEVING that all people have the right to an education no matter their parents' socioeconomic status;

The World Assembly hereby requires the provision of free public education for all persons legally residing within their borders in the following circumstances:

Article 1§ Primary education for all

All persons legally residing in the country must be offered free private education during the ages of 5-18.

a) All persons legally residing consist of approved immigrants as well as citizens;

b) Each nation is allowed for themselves to determine whether or not to provide free education for persons living illegally within its borders

Article 2§ Protections for Refugees
Those individuals fleeing persecution or war are considered to be legally residing in the nation's borders while the persecution or fighting continues. Thus, they are to be provided free primary education.

a) Primary education is defined as ages 5-18.

b) Nations can request assistance, both financial and structural, from the World Assembly in setting up schooling for refugees.

c) Nations are encouraged to provide further education for free if the refugee situation does not appear to be improving, but they are not required to do so.

Article 3§ International Standards
An international body will be created that sets minimum standards and curriculum requirements for an international diploma that students can use to demonstrate their skills in other settings than the country of their citizenship.

a) Nations are not required to accept the international standards and may continue using their own curricula.

b) Depending on the educational system, some nations may find that some school systems choose the international standards rather than the national standards and should not be penalized unless it acts against national laws.

Article 4§ World Assembly Assistance
A fund will be set up in the WA from voluntary donations so that nations that believe they are unable to provide free education for all due to poor infrastructure, lack of trained educators, or other resources may apply to the WA for a grant.

a) All grants will require nations create a plan to become self-sustaining so that the WA does not remain responsible for providing financial support indefinitely

b) Grants will be based on merit including, but not restricted to: resume of person(s) in charge of distributing the money, evaluation plan in place to ensure regular updates as to progress are given to the WA, donors' requests for supporting specific nations be included where required, and level of need.

Article 5§ Private Education

Private education is in no way affected by this resolution. Nations may continue to allow private and/or for-profit education where the demand requires.

Don't take my vote too much to heart; I support the general concept, but the proposal itself raises some big problems. As is, I would definitely not support it if it was submitted, even if I was a delegate.

Please help to get this to the general vote even if you aren't sure your nations would vote for it. Otherwise, the WA has become defunct once again.
...and this bit of emotional blackmail ensures my lack of support.

Description: The Free Education for All bill will require the government to provide all children legally in a country free education through university.
Presumably with the obvious category and subcategory? So far so very expensive, but OK.

[snip]The World Assembly hereby requires the provision of free public education for all persons legally residing within their borders in the following circumstances:

Article 1§ Primary education for all

All persons legally residing in the country must be offered free private education during the ages of 5-18.
NO. Absolutely not. Free public education is one thing; free private education is quite another, and there's no way a government should be paying for it.

a) All persons legally residing consist of approved immigrants as well as citizens;
This is slightly awkwardly phrased, and opens you up to criticism from the annoying people who have citizenship and nationality as separate concepts. Try "Approved (?) immigrants are considered to be "legally residing" for the purposes of this resolution."

b) Each nation is allowed for themselves to determine whether or not to provide free education for persons living illegally within its borders
"...to determine for themselves..." would be more normal wording.

Article 2§ Protections for Refugees
Those individuals fleeing persecution or war are considered to be legally residing in the nation's borders while the persecution or fighting continues. Thus, they are to be provided free primary education.
This is a dangerous statement that takes you straight out of the Education category since you didn't qualify it. The way you've phrased it, anyone who manages to sneak into a country because of war or persecution must be considered a legal resident for all purposes, not just education. This isn't what you meant, I hope, and it will get your proposal shot down in flames.

a) Primary education is defined as ages 5-18.
I'd call that primary and secondary, but you're allowed to defined whatever terms you like.

b) Nations can request assistance, both financial and structural, from the World Assembly in setting up schooling for refugees.
That's nice. They won't get much assistance, since the WA runs mostly on the profits from the bar.

c) Nations are encouraged to provide further education for free if the refugee situation does not appear to be improving, but they are not required to do so.
What do you mean by "further education" here? You've already required that refugees be treated exactly as natural residents, what more are you expecting?

Article 3§ International Standards
An international body will be created that sets minimum standards and curriculum requirements for an international diploma that students can use to demonstrate their skills in other settings than the country of their citizenship.

a) Nations are not required to accept the international standards and may continue using their own curricula.

b) Depending on the educational system, some nations may find that some school systems choose the international standards rather than the national standards and should not be penalized unless it acts against national laws.
This is a whole different resolution.

Article 4§ World Assembly Assistance
A fund will be set up in the WA from voluntary donations so that nations that believe they are unable to provide free education for all due to poor infrastructure, lack of trained educators, or other resources may apply to the WA for a grant.

a) All grants will require nations create a plan to become self-sustaining so that the WA does not remain responsible for providing financial support indefinitely

b) Grants will be based on merit including, but not restricted to: resume of person(s) in charge of distributing the money, evaluation plan in place to ensure regular updates as to progress are given to the WA, donors' requests for supporting specific nations be included where required, and level of need.
I think that you're somewhat overestimating the WA finances again. Also clause (b) is pretty horrific; of all your criteria, the last-mentioned is clearly the one of overriding importance, and at least one of the others shouldn't be there at all.

I think Cerys Coch, Head of the Gobbannaen World Assembly Mission is a very wise and nice person. I will follow the advice.

In short to much expensive. To much managing where nations do by themselves a good job because they need educated people.

But I do think education is important enough to improve. But because the nations are so different it will be to difficult to set all things right from the WA level. But you can change my mind, because I love education.

Regards

Thanks for the advice. I didn't notice the "private" instead of "public" in the first article. That was a complete typo. I was probably thinking about wanting to address it later, and I just wrote it in.

A lot of your other comments reflected things I was reacting to in a different proposal. I would like to rework it so that it doesn't seem like refugees are legal residents in all situations, but I do think their education shouldn't stop if they are fleeing from an internationally recognized crisis situation.

I have to say "emotional blackmail" was a bit harsh, though. I was trying to point out that nothing is getting through whereas things were much more regularly before. Perhaps it should have been left out because it was a bit of a rant/commentary.

I have to say "emotional blackmail" was a bit harsh, though. I was trying to point out that nothing is getting through whereas things were much more regularly before. Perhaps it should have been left out because it was a bit of a rant/commentary.

Don't be complaining about nothing getting through lately, 99% of the proposal list has been crap lately.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

All persons legally residing in the country must be offered free private education during the ages of 5-18.


5-18 what? years/days/seconds? It could probably be better worded as children and young adults, to skip round the issue of nations who age at different rates.

Kari Kagrosi
WA Pirate

Don't be complaining about nothing getting through lately, 99% of the proposal list has been crap lately.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

You're being generous, old boy. I'd figure the precentage to be a little higher.:tongue:
Excelsior,
Sen. Horatio Sulla

You're being generous, old boy. I'd figure the precentage to be a little higher.:tongue:
Excelsior,
Sen. Horatio Sulla

I'd have listed it as higher, but there are actually a couple of proposals in the list that I've approved.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative