NationStates Jolt Archive

One of the many problems with trying to create the equivalent of the Olympics in Nation States is the fact that the NS world is far larger in many ways than the real world. In addition you need to take how the WA works into consideration. Basically speaking you need to approach the problem from a different direction entirely. If I had the time (and another endorsement from my NY region mates, I’m back to one at the moment) I might take the time to come up with a proper resolution. In the mean time here is what I would consider a framework for such a proposal.

Establishes a committee WAGC (World Assembly Games Committee) that will do the following:

Determine the list of games supported based on athletic criteria and popularity among member nations.
Determine rules, regulations and guidelines for international competition based on rules, regulations and guidelines of member nations.
Determine dates and venues for regional and global competitions.

Establishes a sub-committee WAGDC (World Assembly Games Drug Committee) to create and enforce drug and doping regulations.

In this way we maintain a nice small vague resolution. We should word it so that we spread the wealth (literally) among nations (through regional events) and over time (as each event could be held on its own time table) so that the problems of scale meeting in two places ever four years can be avoided. (Problems cause proposals not to be resolutions.)

Establishes a committee WAGC (World Assembly Games Committee) that will do the following:

Determine the list of games supported based on athletic criteria and popularity among member nations.
Okay so far.

Determine rules, regulations and guidelines for international competition based on rules, regulations and guidelines of member nations.
Provisionally okay: These rules would only have to apply in those contests that were organised by WAGC, and not in any contests that the nations organised amongst themselves (and in which they might prefer to use different rules) as well, yes?

Determine dates and venues for regional and global competitions.
As currently written, this could be read as giving WAGC sole control over such matters, and prevent the organisation of additional international games by interested nations: Not okay.

Establishes a sub-committee WAGDC (World Assembly Games Drug Committee) to create and enforce drug and doping regulations.
Even if giving this sub-committee enforcement powers is ruled as 'legal', rather than as a breach of the "No WA police" rule, I would suggest having the WAGDC create those regulations but then requiring that the member nations enforce them. That would probably be acceptable to a higher proportion of the member nations' governments, and would mean that this proposal did more than just "create a committee" too...

The really BIG problem with any such idea, however, is the fact that -- as WA resolutions are not binding on non-member nations -- this could only be used to handle international sporting contests that only involved WA member-nations... but contests that involve both member and non-member nations -- such as the current NSOC '3rd Summer Olympics', for example -- are probably FAR more common.

Well as I said this was just a vague idea. I agree that the committee has to be written so that participating nations can have a say as well. And the resolution would be designed so that other games between nations would still be allowed.

Generally speaking I would assume that it would be clear in the resolution that the only “enforcement” would be banning such people from the games. As such this hardly counts as a WA police.

The question as to what to do with non binding non WA member nations is a tricky one. In once sense this isn’t supposed to be a replacement for existing games. One could give the argument that the “cost” of the proposal is more in the hosting than in the participation and limiting hosting to WA member nations only while allowing all nations to participate might alleviate the stat wanking paradoxes with having nations not in the WA participate.

An opposite problem exists in that all WA nations suffer the effects of the stat wank whether they wanted to have a sports program or not. Making participation voluntary might be a cause of problem. But if we assume that all WA members will be participating in some way (but not all with the same sports) then this could also be hand waved away.