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World Assembly Economic Union

A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.


Category: Free Trade


Strength: Strong


Proposed by: Yeldan WA Guinea Pig

Description: The nations of the World Assembly, resolved to:

STRENGTHEN the special bonds of friendship and cooperation among our nations;

CONTRIBUTE to the harmonious development and expansion of world trade and provide a catalyst to broader international cooperation;

CREATE an expanded and secure market for the goods and services produced in our nations;

REDUCE distortions to trade;

ENSURE a predictable commercial framework for business planning and investment;

HEREBY

1. ENCOURAGES the sale and/or transfer between WA nations of all goods, services, raw materials and commodities;

2. ESTABLISHES the World Assembly Free Trade Commission (WAFTC) to arbitrate any and all trade disputes which may arise concerning the implementation of this legislation. Such arbitration may include, but is not limited to, cases involving alleged price dumping by WA members upon WA members, alleged violations of Articles 3, 4 and 5 of this legislation, and disputes over the interpretation of the terms and conditions of this legislation;

3. REQUIRES the elimination of protectionist devices restricting the trade of all goods, services, raw materials and commodities, including but not limited to tariffs, duties, subsidies, subventions and quotas, within eleven years;

4. DECLARES that nations may apply reasonable restrictions on trade in the following cases:

- to ensure the stability of industries supplying essential products (such as military equipment or other items vital to national security);
- in times of severe economic crisis, where such measures are required to ensure a stable supply of essential products;
- to collect revenue for the sole purposes of economic recovery following severe collapse;
- in other special circumstances, as determined by the WAFTC.

5. DECLARES it the right of nations to impose cultural, safety, environmental, ethical or other regulations on goods and services and their manufacture, provided any such regulations are administered in a non-protectionist manner;

6. EMPHASIZES that WA member nations reserve the right to employ retaliatory tariffs towards non-WA nations to prevent price dumping;

7. STRONGLY ENCOURAGES nations to:
a. Create new employment opportunities and improve working conditions and living standards in their respective territories;
b. Promote sustainable development;
c. Undertake each of the preceding in a manner consistent with environmental protection and conservation.
d. Strengthen the development and enforcement of environmental laws and regulations;
e. Protect, enhance and enforce basic workers' rights.

Aüþgæþ Spøtyiú
Ambassador

Does the ethical exemption in 5 allow us to create strong, preferential Fair Trade agreements despite the whining of the Free Trade block that these are protectionist?

Edit suggestion:

2. ESTABLISHES the World Assembly Free Trade Commission (WAFTC) to arbitrate any and all trade disputes which may arise concerning the implementation of this legislation. Such arbitration may include, but is not limited to, cases involving alleged price dumping by WA members upon WA members, alleged violations of Articles 3, 4 and 5 of this legislation, and disputes over the interpretation of the terms and conditions of this legislation;becomes:

2. ESTABLISHES the World Assembly Free Trade Commission (WAFTC) to arbitrate any and all trade disputes which may arise concerning the implementation of this legislation. Such arbitration may include, but is not limited to, cases involving alleged price dumping by WA members upon WA members, disputes over the interpretation of the terms and conditions of this resolution, and any alleged violations by member states;Might I ask the purpose for Clause 7? Because parts of it would smack of category violation, were it not merely a "strongly encourages."

Does the ethical exemption in 5 allow us to create strong, preferential Fair Trade agreements despite the whining of the Free Trade block that these are protectionist?
Probably not but, meh, maybe so. Keep in mind that this is nowhere near a finished product. As stated here (http://z11.invisionfree.com/Antarctic_Oasis/index.php?showtopic=891&view=findpost&p=7395547) I'm leaning towards having WAFTC implement a series of reductions of protectionist devices with the goal of eliminating them entirely at some unspecified later time, sort of like how it's done in real life.

I understand how sweeping this Resolution would be and the impact it would have, so I'll take "fair trade" arguments into consideration.

Might I ask the purpose for Clause 7? Because parts of it would smack of category violation, were it not merely a "strongly encourages."
Thanks for the edit suggestion for Clause 2. I'll use that in future versions.

Clause 7 is to appease the hippies.

We believe the representative from Yelda means well here; however Scotcphinestan will be forced to strongly oppose this resolution. We believe it infringes too strongly on the rights of nations to make trade agreements for themselves (or, more importantly, the right to NOT make trade agreements).

Clause 1 is a little superfluous as it's currently written, might I suggest

1.ENCOURAGES the free and open trade/transfer of all goods, services, raw materials and commodities between member states without prejudice;

I think this would achieve the aim you're looking for, i.e. facilitating fair and free trade in all markets with all goods.

Also, as you've stated you're open to Fair Trade suggestions, perhaps adding a subsection to Clause 5 regarding human rights would appease those Fair Trade supporters? Tariffs applied in such cases could be subject to the WAFTC's approval. Failing all else, maybe a guarantee of a nation's right to use embargoes and purchase bans would be good? I don't want to see nations looking to pressure cruel regimes or end human rights abuses hampered by a legalistic reading of an anti-tariff bill.

Wens Foroun
Symposium Subjugant

Clause 1 is a little superfluous as it's currently written, might I suggest

1.ENCOURAGES the free and open trade/transfer of all goods, services, raw materials and commodities between member states without prejudice;

I think this would achieve the aim you're looking for, i.e. facilitating fair and free trade in all markets with all goods.

Also, as you've stated you're open to Fair Trade suggestions, perhaps adding a subsection to Clause 5 regarding human rights would appease those Fair Trade supporters? Tariffs applied in such cases could be subject to the WAFTC's approval. Failing all else, maybe a guarantee of a nation's right to use embargoes and purchase bans would be good? I don't want to see nations looking to pressure cruel regimes or end human rights abuses hampered by a legalistic reading of an anti-tariff bill.

Wens Foroun
Symposium Subjugant
All very worthy suggestions. I will add your suggested rewording of Clause 1 to the next draft. I also think we'll be doing something along the lines of what you're suggesting by expanding upon the rights guaranteed in Clause 5.

Aüþgæþ Spøtyiú
Ambassador

We consider this a most important legislative priority for the WA, and pledge to die in its name. Or at least, send a few TGs. We don't, however, look forward to the tide of racism it is likely to precipitate and first world protectionists and third world nationalist zealots scuttle out from under their rocks to whine about losing 'their' jobs. Therefore, we propose the addition of language instructing all regressive anti-traders to go stimulate themselves with a large stone object of their choice.

However, we do have one criticism. We feel either this proposal, or another one, should contain some provisions for 'transition': retraining and small business start-ups, for example. The effects of this proposal that will be seized upon by its xenophobic opponents as an excuse to peddle their particularly hateful brand of myopia would be somewhat mitigated by governments providing people the means to adapt to the changing economic climate more readily.

We have an additional question: will this proposal concern the free flow of people as well as goods?

-- Samantha Benson
etc etc
Quintessence of Dust

IC: By the many limbs of Dennis! We have for years been trying to throw away the shackles of the imperialist oppressors, and after 20 years of struggle and as soon as our destiny as a self ruling people is assured, you attempt to replace the manacles and enslave us once again: how are the Cobdenistani's, a poor people much oppressed, going to get funding from Khrushchev if we have to trade equally with the capatalists? We won't! It would shatter the illusion of us being socialist, and damage mine and other senior Cobdenistani's, include our Presidents, plans to siphon cash into our secret bank accounts. How will we be able to afford our Mercedes-Benz's? They do not grow on trees! At least, I think they don't. Remind me to send a memo to the Cobdenistani department of Agriculture to investigate the possibility of Mercedes Orchards...


OoC: Support

why this proposal is so appealing to the Yeldian member? not only does this create far more bureaucracy, it impedes the ability of NS to form their own trade blocs between regions. more still, in order to fend for their own economies, many of the trade offence/defence mechanisms are robbed from them.

why not back a real trade resolution that encourages NS to create, enter, and leave blocs as they see fit? rather than imposing a one world government resolution, such a move fosters the true spirit of the WA by allowing NS to cooperate as they like.

as much as some, say the honoured QoD delegate, would liken the regions to be like piano keys existing in perfect harmony,

/ever so slight sneer

the reality is, the regions have the right to self-determination and REAL free trade without misplaced altruism.

why this proposal is so appealing to the Yeldian member? not only does this create far more bureaucracy, it impedes the ability of NS to form their own trade blocs between regions. more still, in order to fend for their own economies, many of the trade offence/defence mechanisms are robbed from them.

This is actually horrible economic practice. Tariffs and protectionism for the sake of protectionism ultimately hurts the industries you are protecting. Further, the creation of a pan-WA free/fair trade zone is of inconsiderable benefit, as it standardizes prices and removes barriers to free and fair access to goods and services.

why not back a real trade resolution that encourages NS to create, enter, and leave blocs as they see fit? rather than imposing a one world government resolution, such a move fosters the true spirit of the WA by allowing NS to cooperate as they like.

There's a name for this thing you describe, it's called "not being in the World Assembly." The true spirit of the World Assembly isn't looking out for number 1, it's forming a harmonious community of nations working together for the common and personal benefit. Otherwise, why belong? Standardization of trade, when it is applied equally and fairly, is only beneficial.

as much as some, say the honoured QoD delegate, would liken the regions to be like piano keys existing in perfect harmony,

/ever so slight sneer
Piano keys need to be tuned. This resolution is a tuning fork.

/big, quite obvious sneer/

the reality is, the regions have the right to self-determination and REAL free trade without misplaced altruism.

Your "right to self-determination" is curtailed the moment you agreed to join the World Assembly and submit to the legislative fiat of this body. Free/fair trade has real benefits and real application. There is not reason not to believe so.

Wens Foroun
Symposium Subjugant

why this proposal is so appealing to the Yeldian member?

Apparently you've never experienced the wonder that is Fine Yeldan Cheese.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

Apparently you've never experienced the wonder that is Fine Yeldan Cheese.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

...probably because his cheese tariffs are too high.

Wens Foroun
etc.

We consider this a most important legislative priority for the WA, and pledge to die in its name.
Well I certainly hope it won't be necessary for Quodite, or any other, lives to be sacrificed in order to guarantee this resolution's passage. We have, however, been feeding Mister Jones an extra ration of live baby seals in anticipation of a spirited floor debate.

Or at least, send a few TGs.
All assistance will be greatly appreciated when it comes time to submit this for real. Thank you!

We don't, however, look forward to the tide of racism it is likely to precipitate and first world protectionists and third world nationalist zealots scuttle out from under their rocks to whine about losing 'their' jobs. Therefore, we propose the addition of language instructing all regressive anti-traders to go stimulate themselves with a large stone object of their choice.
I'll see if we can come up with suitable language to achieve that worthy goal.

However, we do have one criticism. We feel either this proposal, or another one, should contain some provisions for 'transition': retraining and small business start-ups, for example. The effects of this proposal that will be seized upon by its xenophobic opponents as an excuse to peddle their particularly hateful brand of myopia would be somewhat mitigated by governments providing people the means to adapt to the changing economic climate more readily.
Yes you're right about that and such a provision will be included in future drafts.

The current submitted version is just to test the waters. It was cobbled together from an old UN draft and will be greatly modified by the time the final submission occurs.

We have an additional question: will this proposal concern the free flow of people as well as goods?
I personally would like for it to cover the free flow of labour. My staff is working on it and if possible that will be included.


IC: By the many limbs of Dennis! We have for years been trying to throw away the shackles of the imperialist oppressors, and after 20 years of struggle and as soon as our destiny as a self ruling people is assured, you attempt to replace the manacles and enslave us once again: how are the Cobdenistani's, a poor people much oppressed, going to get funding from Khrushchev if we have to trade equally with the capatalists? We won't! It would shatter the illusion of us being socialist, and damage mine and other senior Cobdenistani's, include our Presidents, plans to siphon cash into our secret bank accounts. How will we be able to afford our Mercedes-Benz's? They do not grow on trees! At least, I think they don't. Remind me to send a memo to the Cobdenistani department of Agriculture to investigate the possibility of Mercedes Orchards...
Perhaps one of the results of this resolution would be the opening of a Mercedes-Benz assembly plant in Cobdenistan. Have you considered that?


OoC: Support
OoC: Thanks!

why this proposal is so appealing to the Yeldian member?
Because we value true economic liberty? The free flow of goods and services unimpeded by nationalist agendas?


not only does this create far more bureaucracy, it impedes the ability of NS to form their own trade blocs between regions. more still, in order to fend for their own economies, many of the trade offence/defence mechanisms are robbed from them.

why not back a real trade resolution that encourages NS to create, enter, and leave blocs as they see fit? rather than imposing a one world government resolution, such a move fosters the true spirit of the WA by allowing NS to cooperate as they like.

as much as some, say the honoured QoD delegate, would liken the regions to be like piano keys existing in perfect harmony,

/ever so slight sneer

the reality is, the regions have the right to self-determination and REAL free trade without misplaced altruism.
Then resign from the WA. It's easy, just click the "resign" button and the WA will trouble you no more.

Aüþgæþ Spøtyiú
Ambassador

At the Palentine delegation, the dolphins are busy making obscene, unchaste, and immoral propositins to the good looking female interns in neighboring delegations, and the occaisional Kawaiian Catgirl that wanders alongside. One takes a brief break and swims over to the waterprooof mike,

"<Bleeping> A! This is a good<censored><bleep><foul word> starting place for a <bleeping> free<gross explitive> trade ageement. We<naughty word><bad word> will <yowzah! thats rude> support. Hey Cheese boy! How about some <dirty word><filthy word>fine Yeldan haddock flavored <vile word> Cheese(TM)?"

Hey Cheese boy! How about some <dirty word><filthy word>fine Yeldan haddock flavored <vile word> Cheese(TM)?"
Aüþgæþ Spøtyiú turns and whispers to an aide. Moments later a crate of Fine Yeldan Haddock Cheese (Chock full o'Real Fish Heads)™ is delivered to the Palentine delegation, along with a bottle of Wild Turkey™ for Sen. Sulla.

as much as some, say the honoured QoD delegate, would liken the regions to be like piano keys existing in perfect harmony,

/ever so slight sneer

Sneering aside, I wonder if the esteemed representative of Coffeeholics understands why nations choose to enter the WA in the first place. I am sure there are many reasons, but in the case of the Altan Steppes, we chose years ago to join this body's predecessor, and then to join the WA, for one reason: the belief that nations, working together, can mutually decide on international legislation to everyone's mutual benefit. We would hope that the esteemed representative and his nation would consider that fact....after all, simply joining to throw a monkey wrench into that idea is little more than childish rebellion of the sort that an adolescent might employ when he's unhappy that his parents have given him a curfew or an allowance not to his liking.

the reality is, the regions have the right to self-determination and REAL free trade without misplaced altruism.

As many others have said, leave the WA and you and your regions can do whatever you like, alone or together. It really wouldn't concern us at all. We wouldn't bother you one bit. The only reason you're bothered is because your government chose to be here.

That being said, the Trilateral Federation would be pleased to support this proposal.

-Jaris Krytellin, Ambassador

Perhaps one of the results of this resolution would be the opening of a Mercedes-Benz assembly plant in Cobdenistan. Have you considered that?


This is not acceptable to us! It would mean the scum...I mean recently freed of our nation would be able to buy Mercedes's too! And without paying the 300% foreign car import taxes or the 200% bribe! What is the point of having half an acre of German built luxury if everyone has it? What signal would that send? It would say "We are failures"!

That said, so far all the help we've received from our comrades is a record "Molotov's Greatest Hits: Volume Three, including his number one hit Korobushka"...

The government of the emperor of Urgench is predisposed to be highly in favour of this resolution. It is well written, accurately aimed and doubtless very timely. We would hope that it might be revised to allow for some degree of latitude in economic model in a general sense but we would very likely vote in the affirmative for it. We congatulate it's authors.

yours e.t.c.,

World Assembly Economic Union
Category: Free Trade
Strength: Strong


The nations of the World Assembly, resolved to:

STRENGTHEN the special bonds of friendship and cooperation among our nations;

CONTRIBUTE to the harmonious development and expansion of world trade and provide a catalyst to broader international cooperation;

CREATE an expanded and secure market for the goods and services produced in our nations;

REDUCE distortions to trade;

ENSURE a predictable commercial framework for business planning and investment;

HEREBY

1.ENCOURAGES the free and open trade/transfer of all goods, services, raw materials and commodities and labor between member states without prejudice;

2. ESTABLISHES the World Assembly Free Trade Commission (WAFTC) to arbitrate any and all trade disputes which may arise concerning the implementation of this legislation. Such arbitration may include, but is not limited to, cases involving alleged price dumping by WA members upon WA members, disputes over the interpretation of the terms and conditions of this resolution, and any alleged violations by member states;

3. REQUIRES the elimination of protectionist devices restricting the trade of all goods, services, raw materials and commodities, including but not limited to tariffs, duties, subsidies, subventions and quotas, within eleven years;

4. DECLARES that nations may apply reasonable restrictions on trade in the following cases:

- to ensure the stability of industries supplying essential products (such as military equipment or other items vital to national security);
- in times of severe economic crisis, where such measures are required to ensure a stable supply of essential products;
- to collect revenue for the sole purposes of economic recovery following severe collapse;
- in other special circumstances, as determined by the WAFTC.

5. DECLARES it the right of nations to impose cultural, safety, environmental, human rights, ethical or other regulations on goods and services and their manufacture, provided any such regulations are administered in a non-protectionist manner. Further allows the imposition of embargoes for any of the aforementioned reasons, subject to WAFTC approval;

6. EMPHASIZES that WA member nations reserve the right to employ retaliatory tariffs towards non-WA nations to prevent price dumping;

7. STRONGLY ENCOURAGES nations to:
a. Create new employment opportunities and improve working conditions and living standards in their respective territories;
b. Promote sustainable development;
c. Undertake each of the preceding in a manner consistent with environmental protection and conservation.
d. Strengthen the development and enforcement of environmental laws and regulations;
e. Protect, enhance and enforce basic workers' rights.
f. Adopt policies conducive to the free flow of labor across national borders.

8. REQUIRES member governments to establish programs to alleviate the possible impact of this resolution on workers and their families. Examples of the services provided by such programs are job retraining, help with relocation of displaced workers and training or assistance in small business start-ups.
I think this incorporates all of the suggested changes, at least the ones I agreed to. Look it over carefully.

I'm still considering changing the "within eleven years" part to a series of staged eliminations of protectionist mechanisms. Any suggestions on how to handle that?

I think it's unrealistic to set an exact target, be it '100% in 11 years' or '20% in 5 years, 50% in 7 years...'. Maybe instead the WAFTC could be empowered to hold regular rounds, at which it will set new targets for further lowering trade barriers. Then 3 could be changed to 'in accordance with schedules determined by the WAFTC in consultation with member nations' o.w.t.t.e.

Also, your proposal, despite 2 and 6, does not actually ban dumping. Is that deliberate?

Finally, would it be unduly complex to work out some definition of 'subsidy' that excluded, for example, government stipends (or even small business loans)?

-- Sam Benson
etc. etc.

I think it's unrealistic to set an exact target, be it '100% in 11 years' or '20% in 5 years, 50% in 7 years...'. Maybe instead the WAFTC could be empowered to hold regular rounds, at which it will set new targets for further lowering trade barriers. Then 3 could be changed to 'in accordance with schedules determined by the WAFTC in consultation with member nations' o.w.t.t.e.
That sounds like a reasonable approach. I'll get started on it tomorrow.

Also, your proposal, despite 2 and 6, does not actually ban dumping. Is that deliberate?
No, it isn't deliberate. We'll need to define dumping though. One man's dumping is another man's aggressive pricing.

Finally, would it be unduly complex to work out some definition of 'subsidy' that excluded, for example, government stipends (or even small business loans)?
We can do something like that. Might have to do some re-wording elsewhere though. We're probably pushing the character limit as it is.

Aüþgæþ Spøtyiú
Ambassador

The Wierd Anarchists are still discussing if this proposal is something we can endorse. When we read that one clause was something to please the hippies, we were wondering if we were mentioned. We are weird and idealistic so we are close to hippies, but we are also realistic. So if such a clause does not mean much, please let it out. But if such things are meaningful than we have some suggestions.

Why not make it also free, fair and open trade.

So in clause it becomes: "ENCOURAGES the free, fair and open trade/transfer of all goods, services, raw materials and commodities and labor between member states without prejudice;"

This for making friendship between nations stronger. And fair is also not dumping goods. We like to see something about that too.

In clause 4 it goes over reasonable restrictions on trade.
We like to see that clause 5 can be used for restrictions too. Or maybe that is already, but we are worried about the meaning of "subject to WAFTC approval". We think that the WAFTC only can ban such restrictions when these restrictions are of self protectionist manner.

I think we need protection on ethical or environmental things. Like we Wierd Anarchists are banning cars which pollute the air. Are banning products who cannot be recycled. But our nation does not have import tariffs on any fair goods from outside our nation.

If this proposal does not restrict us on banning goods which are bad for our health, human rights or ecology we are in favor. We are strongly against protectionism for the glory of our industry.

Wish you success in getting a free and fair proposal.

Regards

Nice work. It'll most likely get Krioval's approval when it hits the proposals list.

I'll ask again; does clause 5 allow us to implement Fair Trade policies, or are the usual free trade arguments that they are protectionist going to win?

So in clause it becomes: "ENCOURAGES the free, fair and open trade/transfer of all goods, services, raw materials and commodities and labor between member states without prejudice;"
I see no harm in inserting the word "fair" in that clause. We'll do that.

In clause 4 it goes over reasonable restrictions on trade.
We like to see that clause 5 can be used for restrictions too. Or maybe that is already, but we are worried about the meaning of "subject to WAFTC approval". We think that the WAFTC only can ban such restrictions when these restrictions are of self protectionist manner.
That language is a holdover from earlier free trade legislation in the old UN. We might overhaul that section (see below).

Nice work. It'll most likely get Krioval's approval when it hits the proposals list.
Thank you. I would also like to say it's nice to see Krioval represented in this organization once again. Welcome back!

I'll ask again; does clause 5 allow us to implement Fair Trade policies, or are the usual free trade arguments that they are protectionist going to win?
What if we rewrite 5 thus:

5. AFFIRMS the right of nations to impose regulations, including embargoes, for cultural, safety, environmental, human rights, ethical or other reasons, on goods and services and their manufacture, subject to WAFTC approval;

Would that be acceptable? That's way too many commas and it could probably be worded a bit better than that, but is the general idea agreeable?

I'm currently working on Ambassador Benson's suggestions and will have a rough rewrite of the affected clauses later today (hopefully).

Aüþgæþ Spøtyiú
Ambassador

Would that be acceptable?
You know, Ambassador Spøtyiú, you may just have succeeded in writing a Free Trade resolution I can actually support!

3. AUTHORIZES the WAFTC to implement a process for the gradual elimination of protectionist devices restricting the trade of all goods, services, raw materials and commodities, including but not limited to tariffs, duties, subsidies, subventions and quotas employed by WA member nations.

a. The process will be conducted through a series of meetings convened by the WAFTC on a quadrennial basis with the goal of eventual elimination of all protectionist devices employed by WA member nations;

b. The WAFTC may authorize the use of protectionist devices by member nations at its own discretion. This can include, but is not limited to, policies such as government stipends and small business loans;

c. Decisions arrived at by the WAFTC in the scheduled meetings are binding;
Is quadrennial an appropriate timeframe or should it be longer, like every decade?

6. EMPHASIZES that WA member nations reserve the right to employ retaliatory tariffs towards non-WA nations to prevent price dumping.

a. Bans the practice of price dumping by WA nations on fellow WA nations;
I'm not sure I have room for a definition of price dumping. Is it possible that the average member will know what it means?

Look all of this over before I include it in the next draft.

Aüþgæþ Spøtyiú
Ambassador

Is quadrennial an appropriate timeframe or should it be longer, like every decade?

I think every five is more appropriate- the market can be subjected to incredible changes very quickly, and having to wait for the "scheduled meetings" in ten years is stringent.
I'm not sure I have room for a definition of price dumping. Is it possible that the average member will know what it means?

Price dumping is price dumping, and agressive pricing is agressive pricing. Relying on WAFTC hearings is the best way. Hashing it out takes up space and confuses the text.

Wens Foroun
Symposium Subjugant

I don't see the need to set a fixed schedule. You could perhaps say 'at least quadrennial', but if a new round is urgently needed, it makes sense for the WAFTC to have authority to call one.

I also suggest omitting 'Free' from the Commission's name.

On two fronts, I didn't really spell out my initial comments enough, so I think I should elaborate a little.

I'm not definitely saying that price dumping should be banned. Certainly, I think review of dumping should be given to the Commission, or else nations will too easily exclude imports as being dumped. And maybe, though I'm not sure on this, 'dumping' needs to exclude nations willingly buying goods at less than production value. If they don't mind being dumped on, that's their choice. Perhaps.

And regarding 'government stipends and small business loans', I suppose what I was arguing is that they are in fact not protectionist in the first place. For example, we pay a small fuel subsidy to pensioners so they can afford to heat their houses in the winter. This is called a 'fuel subsidy' even though it is really more like an entitlement or benefit. What compounds the problem is that it is not always paid directly to the elderly, in which case it could probably be classed a benefit, but sometimes is paid to nursing homes or hospitals, including private ones, on their behalf. Paying a nursing home so they can buy fuel more cheaply does seem to me to be a subsidy. We would grudgingly submit to such policies being reviewed by the Commission, but we don't accept their being labelled 'protectionist' in the first place.

-- Samantha Benson
etc etc.

The Most Serene Republic of Willagee, wishes to applaud the delegate from Yelda. The Most Serene Republic of Willagee as the WA delegate for the region The Nations of Ruskiannagrad, will most strongly recomend this proposal to the other members of The Nations of Ruskiannagrad.

If there is anything the honourable delegate from Yelda should require, do not hesitate to ask.

You know, Ambassador Spøtyiú, you may just have succeeded in writing a Fair Trade resolution I can actually support!

And we agree on the price dumpings idea of Ambassador Sam Benson.

And we thank Ambassador Cerys Coch for the inspiration for my first sentence.

We are eager to see the proposal later this day and wish Ambassador Spøtyiú a fruitful day.

Regards

I think every five is more appropriate- the market can be subjected to incredible changes very quickly, and having to wait for the "scheduled meetings" in ten years is stringent.
I think I'll allow the commission to set the timetable, as suggested by Ambassador Benson. I might stipulate "at least every _____ years" or something.


Price dumping is price dumping, and agressive pricing is agressive pricing. Relying on WAFTC hearings is the best way. Hashing it out takes up space and confuses the text.
Yes, this should be left up to the commission. We don't have room for a definition anyway.


I don't see the need to set a fixed schedule. You could perhaps say 'at least quadrennial', but if a new round is urgently needed, it makes sense for the WAFTC to have authority to call one.
Agreed.

I also suggest omitting 'Free' from the Commission's name.
Agreed. The Resolution will still be "Free Trade", "Strong", but the commission will be doing more than just dealing with free trade policies so it's best to just call it World Assembly Trade Commission.

On two fronts, I didn't really spell out my initial comments enough, so I think I should elaborate a little.

I'm not definitely saying that price dumping should be banned. Certainly, I think review of dumping should be given to the Commission, or else nations will too easily exclude imports as being dumped. And maybe, though I'm not sure on this, 'dumping' needs to exclude nations willingly buying goods at less than production value. If they don't mind being dumped on, that's their choice. Perhaps.

And regarding 'government stipends and small business loans', I suppose what I was arguing is that they are in fact not protectionist in the first place. For example, we pay a small fuel subsidy to pensioners so they can afford to heat their houses in the winter. This is called a 'fuel subsidy' even though it is really more like an entitlement or benefit. What compounds the problem is that it is not always paid directly to the elderly, in which case it could probably be classed a benefit, but sometimes is paid to nursing homes or hospitals, including private ones, on their behalf. Paying a nursing home so they can buy fuel more cheaply does seem to me to be a subsidy. We would grudgingly submit to such policies being reviewed by the Commission, but we don't accept their being labelled 'protectionist' in the first place.
I'll take all of that into consideration in the next draft, which my staff is working on as we speak.


The Most Serene Republic of Willagee, wishes to applaud the delegate from Yelda. The Most Serene Republic of Willagee as the WA delegate for the region The Nations of Ruskiannagrad, will most strongly recomend this proposal to the other members of The Nations of Ruskiannagrad.

If there is anything the honourable delegate from Yelda should require, do not hesitate to ask.

You know, Ambassador Spøtyiú, you may just have succeeded in writing a Fair Trade resolution I can actually support!

And we agree on the price dumpings idea of Ambassador Sam Benson.

And we thank Ambassador Cerys Coch for the inspiration for my first sentence.

We are eager to see the proposal later this day and wish Ambassador Spøtyiú a fruitful day.

Regards
I'd like to thank the Willagee and Wierd Anarchists delegations for their support and words of encouragement. This will be a close and highly contested campaign, as free trade votes always are. All support is greatly appreciated.

Aüþgæþ Spøtyiú
Ambassador

World Assembly Economic Union
Category: Free Trade
Strength: Strong


The nations of the World Assembly, resolved to:

STRENGTHEN the special bonds of friendship and cooperation among our nations;

CONTRIBUTE to the harmonious development and expansion of world trade and provide a catalyst to broader international cooperation;

CREATE an expanded and secure market for the goods and services produced in our nations;

REDUCE distortions to trade;

ENSURE a predictable commercial framework for business planning and investment;

HEREBY

1.ENCOURAGES the free, fair and open trade/transfer of all goods, services, raw materials, commodities and labor between member states without prejudice;

2. ESTABLISHES the World Assembly Trade Commission (WATC) to arbitrate any and all trade disputes which may arise concerning the implementation of this legislation. Such arbitration may include, but is not limited to, cases involving alleged price dumping by WA members upon WA members, disputes over the interpretation of the terms and conditions of this resolution, and any alleged violations by member states;

3. AUTHORIZES the WATC to implement a process for the gradual elimination of protectionist devices restricting the trade of all goods, services, raw materials, commodities and labor, including but not limited to tariffs, duties, subsidies, subventions and quotas employed by WA member nations.

a. The process will be conducted through a series of meetings convened by the WATC at its own discretion, but at least one per decade, with the goal of eventual elimination of all protectionist devices employed by WA member nations;

b. Decisions arrived at by the WATC in the scheduled meetings are binding;

4. RECOGNIZES that certain domestic programs such as fuel subsidies, government stipends and small business loans are not protectionist in nature. Authorizes the WATC to review these programs and declare any that are not in fact protectionist in nature to be outside the scope of this resolution;

5. DECLARES that nations may apply reasonable restrictions on trade in the following cases:

- to ensure the stability of industries supplying essential products (such as military equipment or other items vital to national security);
- in times of severe economic crisis, where such measures are required to ensure a stable supply of essential products;
- to collect revenue for the sole purposes of economic recovery following severe collapse;
- in other special circumstances, as determined by the WATC.

6. AFFIRMS the right of nations to impose regulations, including embargoes, for cultural, safety, environmental, human rights, ethical or other reasons, on goods and services and their manufacture, subject to WATC approval;

7. EMPHASIZES that WA member nations reserve the right to employ retaliatory tariffs towards non-WA nations to prevent price dumping.

a. Authorizes the WATC to review and rule upon alleged cases of price dumping by WA members upon fellow WA members;

8. STRONGLY ENCOURAGES nations to:
a. Create new employment opportunities and improve working conditions and living standards in their respective territories;
b. Promote sustainable development;
c. Undertake each of the preceding in a manner consistent with environmental protection and conservation.
d. Strengthen the development and enforcement of environmental laws and regulations;
e. Protect, enhance and enforce basic workers' rights.
f. Adopt policies conducive to the free flow of labor across national borders.

9. REQUIRES member governments to establish programs to alleviate the possible impact of this resolution on workers and their families. Examples of the services provided by such programs are job retraining, help with relocation of displaced workers and training or assistance in small business start-ups.

New draft. I think I've bolded all of the revisions.

I'm getting a character count of 3753 in openoffice.

I will support this proposal. You can leave the "a" out of clause 7 because there is no "b".
To save some characters you can shorten clause 8 a bit. It is only about encouragement on labour and environmental issues and rights. It is important but it could be combined shorter in about 4 lines. As a non native speaker I cannot see how it could be done in English. In Dutch it will not help you I think.

Wish you success.
Regards

In section 8, can b, c, and d be condensed if the character limit is a concern? I think you could possibly do away with 8d altogether and have yourself covered by 8b and c. Or is there something crucial I'm missing?

I will support this proposal. You can leave the "a" out of clause 7 because there is no "b".
To save some characters you can shorten clause 8 a bit. It is only about encouragement on labour and environmental issues and rights. It is important but it could be combined shorter in about 4 lines.
I'll look at it tomorrow and start rearranging things. I don't want to remove any of the actual content but there's probably a lot of it that can be written more efficiently.

As a non native speaker I cannot see how it could be done in English. In Dutch it will not help you I think.
My Dutch is far worse than your English I can assure you.

If anything has to go, it should be Clause 8. It's weakest of all the clauses in terms of language employed, and accomplishes the least.

Word counts the characters differently, but without Clause 8 it's right around 3000...

here's a rewrite of #8 that shaves off some extra bits:
8. STRONGLY ENCOURAGES nations to:
a. Create new employment opportunities and improve working conditions and living standards in their respective territories
b, Strengthen the development and enforcement of environmental laws and regulations;
c. Protect, enhance and enforce basic workers' rights, and adopt policies conducive to the free flow of labor across national borders.

I tried to save the most important bits about worker's rights and the environment. Hope it helps.

In section 8, can b, c, and d be condensed if the character limit is a concern? I think you could possibly do away with 8d altogether and have yourself covered by 8b and c. Or is there something crucial I'm missing?
3, 5, 7 and 8 can all probably be condensed/reworded to slash a bunch of characters. I'll work on it tomorrow. Tired.

World Assembly Economic Union
Category: Free Trade
Strength: Strong


The nations of the World Assembly, resolved to:

STRENGTHEN the special bonds of friendship and cooperation among our nations;

CONTRIBUTE to the harmonious development and expansion of world trade and provide a catalyst to broader international cooperation;

CREATE an expanded and secure market for the goods and services produced in our nations;

REDUCE distortions to trade;

ENSURE a predictable commercial framework for business planning and investment;

HEREBY

1.ENCOURAGES the free, fair and open trade/transfer of all goods, services, raw materials, commodities and labor between member states without prejudice;

2. ESTABLISHES the World Assembly Trade Commission (WATC) to arbitrate any and all trade disputes which may arise concerning the implementation of this legislation. Such arbitration may include, but is not limited to, cases involving alleged price dumping by WA members upon WA members, disputes over the interpretation of the terms and conditions of this resolution, and any alleged violations by member states;

3. AUTHORIZES the WATC to implement a process for the gradual elimination of protectionist devices restricting the trade of all goods, services, raw materials, commodities and labor, including but not limited to tariffs, duties, subsidies, subventions and quotas employed by WA member nations.

- The process will be conducted through a series of meetings convened by the WATC at its own discretion, but at least one per decade, with the goal of eventual elimination of all protectionist devices employed by WA member nations;

- Decisions arrived at by the WATC in the scheduled meetings are binding;

4. RECOGNIZES that certain domestic programs such as fuel subsidies, government stipends and small business loans are not protectionist in nature. Authorizes the WATC to review these programs and declare any that are not in fact protectionist in nature to be outside the scope of this resolution;

5. DECLARES that nations may apply reasonable restrictions on trade in the following cases:

- to ensure the stability of industries supplying essential products (such as military equipment or other items vital to national security);
- in times of severe economic crisis, where such measures are required to ensure a stable supply of essential products;
- to collect revenue for the sole purposes of economic recovery following severe collapse;
- in other special circumstances, as determined by the WATC.

6. AFFIRMS the right of nations to impose regulations, including embargoes, for cultural, safety, environmental, human rights, ethical or other reasons, on goods and services and their manufacture, subject to WATC approval;

7. EMPHASIZES that WA member nations reserve the right to employ retaliatory tariffs towards non-WA nations to prevent price dumping and authorizes the WATC to review and rule upon alleged cases of price dumping by WA members upon WA members;

8. REQUIRES member governments to establish programs to alleviate the possible impact of this resolution on workers and their families. Examples of the services provided by such programs are job retraining, help with relocation of displaced workers and training or assistance in small business start-ups.

I have removed Article 8 (the "strongly encourages) one. Character count is now 3290. What's the limit again? I never can remember.

It would have been nice to have left those in there, and I may yet find a way to do that. For now though, this is the official draft.

What about the ALL CAPS verbs at the start of the clauses, good or bad?

Aüþgæþ Spøtyiú
Ambassador

I have removed Article 8 (the "strongly encourages) one. Character count is now 3290. What's the limit again? I never can remember.

3500 characters exactly. It's unfortunate you had to remove it, but it presents an opportunity to deal with those issues in another resolution.

It would have been nice to have left those in there, and I may yet find a way to do that. For now though, this is the official draft.

What about the ALL CAPS verbs at the start of the clauses, good or bad?

What would you replace them with? Regularly capitalized words? I think they grab your attention and fit the format of previous resolutions. They don't detract from it at all.

Wens Foroun
Symposium Subjugant

What would you replace them with? Regularly capitalized words?
Yes. The preamble looks...odd, at first glance.

STRENGTHEN

CONTRIBUTE

CREATE

REDUCE

ENSURE

HEREBY

*shrugs*

Aüþgæþ Spøtyiú
Ambassador

You may be able to reinsert Clause 8, or parts of it, if you contract the overblown size of the preamble into a single paragraph. It doesn't say anything legally binding, and most will just skip over it anyway. Like this-

Strengthen the special bonds of friendship and cooperation among our nations; contribute to the harmonious development and expansion of world trade and provide a catalyst to broader international cooperation; create an expanded and secure market for the goods and services produced in our nations; reduce distortions to tradel and ensure a predictable commercial framework for business planning and investment;

Maybe run it through a processor and see? It's a chunky block of text, but takes up less space than the original format, which would have been skipped over anyway.

Wens Foroun
etc.

You may be able to reinsert Clause 8, or parts of it, if you contract the overblown size of the preamble into a single paragraph. It doesn't say anything legally binding, and most will just skip over it anyway. Like this-



Maybe run it through a processor and see? It's a chunky block of text, but takes up less space than the original format, which would have been skipped over anyway.

Wens Foroun
etc.

That's 3720 characters.

The nations of the World Assembly, resolved to strengthen the special bonds of friendship and cooperation among our nations; contribute to the harmonious development and expansion of world trade and provide a catalyst to broader international cooperation; create an expanded and secure market for the goods and services produced in our nations; reduce distortions to trade and ensure a predictable commercial framework for business planning and investment;


1.ENCOURAGES the free, fair and open trade/transfer of all goods, services, raw materials, commodities and labor between member states without prejudice;

2. ESTABLISHES the World Assembly Trade Commission (WATC) to arbitrate any and all trade disputes which may arise concerning the implementation of this legislation. Such arbitration may include, but is not limited to, cases involving alleged price dumping by WA members upon WA members, disputes over the interpretation of the terms and conditions of this resolution, and any alleged violations by member states;

3. AUTHORIZES the WATC to implement a process for the gradual elimination of protectionist devices restricting the trade of all goods, services, raw materials, commodities and labor, including but not limited to tariffs, duties, subsidies, subventions and quotas employed by WA member nations.

- The process will be conducted through a series of meetings convened by the WATC at its own discretion, but at least one per decade, with the goal of eventual elimination of all protectionist devices employed by WA member nations;

- Decisions arrived at by the WATC in the scheduled meetings are binding;

4. RECOGNIZES that certain domestic programs such as fuel subsidies, government stipends and small business loans are not protectionist in nature. Authorizes the WATC to review these programs and declare any that are not in fact protectionist in nature to be outside the scope of this resolution;

5. DECLARES that nations may apply reasonable restrictions on trade in the following cases:

- to ensure the stability of industries supplying essential products (such as military equipment or other items vital to national security);
- in times of severe economic crisis, where such measures are required to ensure a stable supply of essential products;
- to collect revenue for the sole purposes of economic recovery following severe collapse;
- in other special circumstances, as determined by the WATC.

6. AFFIRMS the right of nations to impose regulations, including embargoes, for cultural, safety, environmental, human rights, ethical or other reasons, on goods and services and their manufacture, subject to WATC approval;

7. EMPHASIZES that WA member nations reserve the right to employ retaliatory tariffs towards non-WA nations to prevent price dumping and authorizes the WATC to review and rule upon alleged cases of price dumping by WA members upon WA members;

8. STRONGLY ENCOURAGES nations to:
-Create new employment opportunities and improve working conditions and living standards in their respective territories;
- Promote sustainable development;
- Undertake each of the preceding in a manner consistent with environmental protection and conservation.
- Strengthen the development and enforcement of environmental laws and regulations;
- Protect, enhance and enforce basic workers' rights.
- Adopt policies conducive to the free flow of labor across national borders.

9. REQUIRES member governments to establish programs to alleviate the possible impact of this resolution on workers and their families. Examples of the services provided by such programs are job retraining, help with relocation of displaced workers and training or assistance in small business start-ups.

I like how the paragraph style preamble looks though. I might keep that regardless.

I like it! Especially the capitalization of the first words. But of course also the concept and impact of this proposal.

Regards

"The nations of the World Assembly [...] HEREBY ENCOURAGES..."

Tsk, tsk. There's a few more characters to shave off, anyway.

"The nations of the World Assembly [...] HEREBY ENCOURAGES..."

Tsk, tsk. There's a few more characters to shave off, anyway.
*whacks Cerys Coch with an empty beer bottle*

"Grammar nazi!"

OOC: Yeah, it'll be fixed in the next draft. Thanks.

As per the obscure and possibly malevolent machinations of the Yeldan Foreign Ministry, it seems that Yeldan interests in the WA have once again been turned over to CSS Chairman Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky.

God help you all.

I'm going on holiday.

Aüþgæþ Spøtyiú
Ambassador

The character count is actually 3460. I noticed the actual limit when posting the resolution 'Neutrality of Nations'

I think the character count changes depending what mood NS is in at the time of submission

As per the obscure and possibly malevolent machinations of the Yeldan Foreign Ministry, it seems that Yeldan interests in the WA have once again been turned over to CSS Chairman Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky.

God help you all.

I'm going on holiday.

Aüþgæþ Spøtyiú
Ambassador

Possibly malevolent? Hmm...that implies that there is a possibility that it is not. How delightfully interesting.

Ambassador DArvek Tyvok-kan
Great Chiefdom of Krioval

The World Assembly, resolved to strengthen the special bonds of friendship and cooperation among our nations; contribute to the harmonious development and expansion of world trade; provide a catalyst to broader international cooperation; create an expanded and secure market for the goods and services produced in our nations; reduce distortions to trade and ensure a predictable commercial framework for business planning and investment;


1.ENCOURAGES the free, fair and open trade/transfer of all goods, services, raw materials, commodities and labor between member states without prejudice;

2. ESTABLISHES the World Assembly Trade Commission (WATC) to arbitrate any and all trade disputes which may arise concerning the implementation of this legislation. Such arbitration may include, but is not limited to, cases involving alleged price dumping by WA members upon WA members, disputes over the interpretation of the terms and conditions of this resolution, and any alleged violations by member states;

3. AUTHORIZES the WATC to implement a process for the gradual elimination of protectionist devices restricting the trade of all goods, services, raw materials, commodities and labor, including but not limited to tariffs, duties, subsidies, subventions and quotas employed by WA member nations.

- The process will be conducted through a series of meetings convened by the WATC at its own discretion, but at least one per decade, with the goal of eventual elimination of all protectionist devices employed by WA member nations;

- Decisions arrived at by the WATC in the scheduled meetings are binding;

4. RECOGNIZES that certain domestic programs such as fuel subsidies, government stipends and small business loans are not protectionist in nature. Authorizes the WATC to review these programs and declare any that are not in fact protectionist in nature to be outside the scope of this resolution;

5. DECLARES that nations may apply reasonable restrictions on trade in the following cases:

- to ensure the stability of industries supplying essential products (such as military equipment or other items vital to national security);
- in times of severe economic crisis, where such measures are required to ensure a stable supply of essential products;
- to collect revenue for the sole purposes of economic recovery following severe collapse;
- in other special circumstances, as determined by the WATC.

6. AFFIRMS the right of nations to impose regulations, including embargoes, for cultural, safety, environmental, human rights, ethical or other reasons, on goods and services and their manufacture, subject to WATC approval;

7. EMPHASIZES that WA member nations reserve the right to employ retaliatory tariffs towards non-WA nations to prevent price dumping and authorizes the WATC to review and rule upon alleged cases of price dumping by WA members upon WA members;

8. REQUIRES member governments to establish programs to alleviate the possible impact of this resolution on workers and their families. Examples of the services provided by such programs are job retraining, help with relocation of displaced workers and training or assistance in small business start-ups.

This draft has 3192 characters. I have removed the former Article 8 which my predecessor had inserted to gain the votes of hippies and other criminal elements.

Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky
Chairman, Yeldan Committee For State Security
Proud Dog Owner

This ambassador of Puppetingness applauds this worthy resolution and will vote for it if it ever reaches the general assembly. However, the government of Puppetingness does not favor any mechanism for arbitration of "price dumping", as it sees "price dumping" as beneficial to consumers. In addition, the government does not favor the terms set out in Clauses 5B and 5C. It feels that these allow overly broad exemptions that will be abused nations' for purposes that the World Assembly Trade Commission would not condone. That said, the government of Puppetingness realizes that these measures may be necessary to satisfy the concerns of fair trade proponents within the World Assembly. If these exceptions are necessary for the passage of this resolution, the government of Puppetingness will acquiesce.

This ambassador has received word from non-World Assembly members that they would be interested in joining such a Trade Agreement. These nations would consent to limiting national sovereignty in the name of expanding trade with other nations, though they are unwilling to risk national sovereignty in other cases. Perhaps such an agreement could be expanded to allow non-World Assembly members or a similar treaty that is not affiliated with the World Assembly could be adopted by any willing nations.

((i.e. form a Trade Commission on the forums with anyone that wants in))

Lastly, this ambassador would like to reflect that the failure of this proposal was largely the result of an inactivity among World Assembly delegates as far as proposals. This ambassador would like to encourage future attempts at this resolution at a time when the delegates are more active.

- The Ambassador of the nation of Puppetingness

This ambassador of Puppetingness applauds this worthy resolution and will vote for it if it ever reaches the general assembly. However, the government of Puppetingness does not favor any mechanism for arbitration of "price dumping", as it sees "price dumping" as beneficial to consumers. In addition, the government does not favor the terms set out in Clauses 5B and 5C. It feels that these allow overly broad exemptions that will be abused nations' for purposes that the World Assembly Trade Commission would not condone. That said, the government of Puppetingness realizes that these measures may be necessary to satisfy the concerns of fair trade proponents within the World Assembly. If these exceptions are necessary for the passage of this resolution, the government of Puppetingness will acquiesce.
I will take your suggestions under consideration, however I do not foresee any major changes to the sections you've mentioned.

This ambassador has received word from non-World Assembly members that they would be interested in joining such a Trade Agreement. These nations would consent to limiting national sovereignty in the name of expanding trade with other nations, though they are unwilling to risk national sovereignty in other cases. Perhaps such an agreement could be expanded to allow non-World Assembly members or a similar treaty that is not affiliated with the World Assembly could be adopted by any willing nations.

((i.e. form a Trade Commission on the forums with anyone that wants in))
I would be very interested in allowing non-members to take part in this agreement. I'm not sure how such a thing could come about though considering that WA resolutions cannot affect non-members. They can also not be optional or voluntary.

(OOC: in other words we couldn't allow non-members to opt in or out of the terms of the resolution. The idea of forming a "Trade Commission on the forums with anyone that wants in" is very interesting and would make for some fun RP. We might have to look into doing something like that.)

Lastly, this ambassador would like to reflect that the failure of this proposal was largely the result of an inactivity among World Assembly delegates as far as proposals. This ambassador would like to encourage future attempts at this resolution at a time when the delegates are more active.

- The Ambassador of the nation of Puppetingness
It did not reach quorum because I did not telegram in support of it. This is still a work in progress. When it is submitted "for real", with telegram support, it will reach quorum.

Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky
Chairman, Yeldan Committee For State Security

I would be very interested in allowing non-members to take part in this agreement. I'm not sure how such a thing could come about though considering that WA resolutions cannot affect non-members. They can also not be optional or voluntary.
OOC: They can not be optional or voluntary for member nations, no, but that's because of the automatic effect on those nations' stats which -- obviously -- wouldn't be a factor in the case of non-member nations...
And it's already been established that non-members can choose to comply voluntarily with the limitations in resolutions, even if they don't receive any corresponding benefits...
And it was considered acceptable for NSUN Resolution #148 'Meteorological Cooperation' to let non-member nations buy services from the IMO...
So I don't see why allowing non-members to opt in to the Agreement (even though that wouldn't give them the same economic improvement in Gameplay terms that the member nations would receive when this passes) shouldn't legally be possible.

So how about something along the lines of the following clause?

AUTHORISES the WACT to sign treaties with any nations that are not members of the WA, whereby those nations shall both be bound and benefit by this resolution's terms on the same basis as are the member nations.

Could we possibly have a Mod's ruling about this question?

It did not reach quorum because I did not telegram in support of it. This is still a work in progress. When it is submitted "for real", with telegram support, it will reach quorum.
This ambassador had assumed that telegram support had been solicited for this proposal - the government of Puppetingness was once a recipient of these telegrams. Unfortunately, the government of Puppetingness had seen it's delegateship wither away and it assumed that it was merely no longer included in the telegram list. The government of Puppetingness is working to regain delegateship of the aging region and hopes to be able to vote in support of the legitimate proposal.

- The Ambassador of the nation of Puppetingness

AUTHORISES the WACT to sign treaties with any nations that are not members of the WA, whereby those nations shall both be bound and benefit by this resolution's terms on the same basis as are the member nations.
((OOC: Sounds good to me, though I don't see such a Clause helping out this already contested treaty. I didn't expect non-WA members to be allowed in, that whole sentiment served to segway into my real goal.))

(OOC: in other words we couldn't allow non-members to opt in or out of the terms of the resolution. The idea of forming a "Trade Commission on the forums with anyone that wants in" is very interesting and would make for some fun RP. We might have to look into doing something like that.)
((My thoughts exactly. I'd love to participate in such an RP. Now I just have to figure out the character of my puppet's master...))

Bump.
AUTHORISES the WACT to sign treaties with any nations that are not members of the WA, whereby those nations shall both be bound and benefit by this resolution's terms on the same basis as are the member nations.
Could we possibly have a Mod's ruling about this question?
I also request a Mod ruling on this suggestion.

I will post a new text later this week, possibly containing some of the suggestions from the Bears Armed and Puppetingness delegations.

Barring any unforeseen circumstances I would like to submit this with telegram support next weekend. If you see any problems with the current text (or the forthcoming revision), speak now or forever hold your peace.

Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky
Chairman, Yeldan Committee For State Security

AUTHORISES the WACT to sign treaties with any nations that are not members of the WA, whereby those nations shall both be bound and benefit by this resolution's terms on the same basis as are the member nations.

Hmmm. A voluntary contract or treaty might seem to bypass the requirement that WA proposals cannot be binding on non WA members. From a game rules perspective, though, such treaties cannot impart any game benefits unless the nation is a WA member, nor can the WA gnomes enforce the provisions on a non-WA member.

I'm going to have to say that as written, this won't be legal. I might go with a statement that non-members could participate in the union, but I don't see any way to make it binding.

I'm going to have to say that as written, this won't be legal. I might go with a statement that non-members could participate in the union, but I don't see any way to make it binding.
Thanks. I kinda figured that. I'll try to come up with a simple statement that non-members can participate. Probably the less detail I go into with it, the better.

Might be best just to drop it though...

Hmmm. A voluntary contract or treaty might seem to bypass the requirement that WA proposals cannot be binding on non WA members. From a game rules perspective, though, such treaties cannot impart any game benefits unless the nation is a WA member, nor can the WA gnomes enforce the provisions on a non-WA member.

I'm going to have to say that as written, this won't be legal. I might go with a statement that non-members could participate in the union, but I don't see any way to make it binding.
Well, I only meant the "be bound and benefit by" line to apply in RP terms -- rather than in gameplay terms, as well -- anyway...
Treaties are generally considered to have the force of law within the signatory nations, aren't they? Any non-WA nations that signed such treaties with WACT would therefore be "bound" to follow this resolution's terms by their own laws, rather than by the WA Gnomes.
I thought that this would be 'legal' because any non-member nation that stopped following the restrictions that such a treaty would place on its own behaviour could be deemed no longer in compliance with that treaty, by WACT, and thus forfeit the (RP) benefits involved too...

Any non-WA nations that signed such treaties with WACT would therefore be "bound" to follow this resolution's terms by their own laws, rather than by the WA Gnomes.

Had it been phrased as a treaty with individual nations or existing non-WA treaty organizations, I wouldn't have turned a hair. However, since the treaty was specifically with a sub-unit of the WA itself, and benefits were explicitly stated, gameplay effects were most surely implied.

I'm sure a way can be found to include non-WA nations. It just can't be as stringent as the quoted passage.

I'm running behind on this but I haven't forgotten about it.

How about something like this:

Non-WA members and non-WA treaty organizations are invited to enter into trade agreements with WA member nations and to use the terms of this resolution as a framework for such agreements.

Would something like that work?

I'm running behind on this but I haven't forgotten about it.

How about something like this:

Non-WA members and non-WA treaty organizations are invited to enter into trade agreements with WA member nations and to use the terms of this resolution as a framework for such agreements.

Would something like that work?

OOC: That would still leave things on a rather piecemeal basis, effectively requiring any non-member nation that wanted free trade arrangements with all of the WA's members to negotiate these separately with each of them.
I'd definitely prefer some wording that would give for any non-member that's willing to grant 'free trade' rights to all member nations the benefit of 'free trade rights' from all member-nations, automatically, without that need to negotiate separately with each of them.

Perhaps something could be done with the "Most Favoured Nation" concept, by saying that the removal of all tariff barriers between member-nations is on this basis and then requiring all member nations to extend this status (at least for the purpose of Free Trade) to any non-member nation that proves to WACT that it is prepared to grant reciprocal rights in this respect to all of the members?

In the Name of the Eternal Kawaii, may the Cute One be praised

We would like to voice our concern about this resolution's Clause 6:

6. AFFIRMS the right of nations to impose regulations, including embargoes, for cultural, safety, environmental, human rights, ethical or other reasons, on goods and services and their manufacture, subject to WATC approval;

While we are glad that the right to restrict trade for clutural and ethical reasons is upheld here, we are concerned that subjecting such practices to WATC approval will give non-Kawaiians the right to interfere with Kawaiian religious practices.

For example, our Jihi Code forbids Kawaiians to trade in commercially taken wildlife, dairy and egg products, and the flesh of certain animals. How can we be assured that this WATC will respect our Code during its deliberations on trade between Kawaiians and non-Kawaiians?

BUMP

This has been re-submitted with permission from the Yeldan delegation.

World Assembly Economic Union

A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.


Category: Free Trade


Strength: Strong


Proposed by: New Leicestershire

Description: The World Assembly, resolved to strengthen the special bonds of friendship and cooperation among our nations; contribute to the harmonious development and expansion of world trade; provide a catalyst to broader international cooperation; create an expanded and secure market for the goods and services produced in our nations; reduce distortions to trade and ensure a predictable commercial framework for business planning and investment;


1.ENCOURAGES the free, fair and open trade/transfer of all goods, services, raw materials, commodities and labor between member states without prejudice;

2. ESTABLISHES the World Assembly Trade Commission (WATC) to arbitrate any and all trade disputes which may arise concerning the implementation of this legislation. Such arbitration may include, but is not limited to, cases involving alleged price dumping by WA members upon WA members, disputes over the interpretation of the terms and conditions of this resolution, and any alleged violations by member states;

3. AUTHORIZES the WATC to implement a process for the gradual elimination of protectionist devices restricting the trade of all goods, services, raw materials, commodities and labor, including but not limited to tariffs, duties, subsidies, subventions and quotas employed by WA member nations.

- The process will be conducted through a series of meetings convened by the WATC at its own discretion, but at least one per decade, with the goal of eventual elimination of all protectionist devices employed by WA member nations;

- Decisions arrived at by the WATC in the scheduled meetings are binding;

4. RECOGNIZES that certain domestic programs such as fuel subsidies, government stipends and small business loans are not protectionist in nature. Authorizes the WATC to review these programs and declare any that are not in fact protectionist in nature to be outside the scope of this resolution;

5. DECLARES that nations may apply reasonable restrictions on trade in the following cases:

- to ensure the stability of industries supplying essential products (such as military equipment or other items vital to national security);
- in times of severe economic crisis, where such measures are required to ensure a stable supply of essential products;
- to collect revenue for the sole purposes of economic recovery following severe collapse;
- in other special circumstances, as determined by the WATC.

6. AFFIRMS the right of nations to impose regulations, including embargoes, for cultural, safety, environmental, human rights, ethical or other reasons, on goods and services and their manufacture, subject to WATC approval;

7. EMPHASIZES that WA member nations reserve the right to employ retaliatory tariffs towards non-WA nations to prevent price dumping and authorizes the WATC to review and rule upon alleged cases of price dumping by WA members upon WA members;

8. REQUIRES member governments to establish programs to alleviate the possible impact of this resolution on workers and their families. Examples of the services provided by such programs are job retraining, help with relocation of displaced workers and training or assistance in small business start-ups.

David Watts
Ambassador
The Dominion of New Leicestershire

OOC: That would still leave things on a rather piecemeal basis, effectively requiring any non-member nation that wanted free trade arrangements with all of the WA's members to negotiate these separately with each of them.
I'd definitely prefer some wording that would give for any non-member that's willing to grant 'free trade' rights to all member nations the benefit of 'free trade rights' from all member-nations, automatically, without that need to negotiate separately with each of them.

Perhaps something could be done with the "Most Favoured Nation" concept, by saying that the removal of all tariff barriers between member-nations is on this basis and then requiring all member nations to extend this status (at least for the purpose of Free Trade) to any non-member nation that proves to WACT that it is prepared to grant reciprocal rights in this respect to all of the members?

I think I'm going to drop this. The only practical way to approach it would be on a nation-by-nation basis and that just seems rather pointless. There is nothing in this legislation preventing non-WA members from entering into trade agreements with WA nations. I believe we'll just leave it at that. Nations would, of course, be able to use this legislation as a framework for their bi-lateral agreements and that would be the case whether we gave them permission or not.

In the Name of the Eternal Kawaii, may the Cute One be praised

We would like to voice our concern about this resolution's Clause 6:



While we are glad that the right to restrict trade for clutural and ethical reasons is upheld here, we are concerned that subjecting such practices to WATC approval will give non-Kawaiians the right to interfere with Kawaiian religious practices.

For example, our Jihi Code forbids Kawaiians to trade in commercially taken wildlife, dairy and egg products, and the flesh of certain animals. How can we be assured that this WATC will respect our Code during its deliberations on trade between Kawaiians and non-Kawaiians?
I understand your concerns but why would the WATC force Kawaiians to trade in goods that they consider abhorrent or forbidden for religious reasons? You can't force people to buy goods that they do not want.

David Watts
Ambassador
The Dominion of New Leicestershire

Once again old boy, you can count on the support of the Palentine when this gets to vote.
Excelsior,
Sen. Horatio Sulla

The Trilateral Federation will be supporting this also.

-Jaris Krytellin, Ambassador

The Mind of Charlotte Ryberg is pleased to see a nation that is willing to bid for a seat for the history book, and this one is a good choice.

The government of the Emperor of Urgench will also support this statute.

Status: Quorum Reached: In Queue!

I'd like to thank all who have supported our efforts. I will be starting a new At Vote discussion with a poll later today.

David Watts
Ambassador
The Dominion of New Leicestershire