NationStates Jolt Archive


Firearm Possession Act of 2008

1010102
13-06-2008, 20:48
(I do not have enough endorsements to propose this myself, but if someone could do it for me that would a big help thanks)

Category: Gun Control
A resolution to tighten or relax gun control laws.
Relax
Resolution Name: Firearm Possession Act of 2008

The right to own and use firearms is equally important the right to freedom of speech and freedom of religion.

Defines firearms as a device that can be used as a weapon that fires either single or multiple projectiles propelled at high velocity by the gases produced through rapid, confined burning of a propellant.

1. Declares that any citizen, regaurdless of status can hereby use, own and transport firearms and ammunitions of all kinds, free from government interference.

2. No Government may interfer with a citizen's right to own and use Firearms.

3. No Government restriction maybe placed on type and use of firearms in their respective nations.

4. Hereby issues the the right to carry and conceal firearms in all areas, save for government buildings, and places were national and international security maybe threatened by carrying a firearm.

Concluding that the right to bear arms is critical to the security to the security of the free state, and therefore must be granted to all citizens regaurdless of all conditions and crimes.
The Altan Steppes
13-06-2008, 21:34
We were willing to grant this consideration until reading the following:

Concluding that the right to bear arms is critical to the security to the security of the free state, and therefore must be granted to all citizens regaurdless of all conditions and crimes.

That clause is entirely too broad for us to even consider supporting. If it were removed, we might consider changing our stance. It's a deal-breaker for us though.

Jaris Krytellin, Ambassador
Urgench
13-06-2008, 21:53
the government of the emperor of urgench believes this proposed resolution to be disgusting and immoral we will fight it at all costs.

yours e.t.c. Mongkha, khan of kashgar, delegate to the world assembly for urgench
Serahk
13-06-2008, 22:17
The Republic of Serahk will not support this proposition. Allowing past criminals to own firearms is not only stupid, but bad for buisness; we carefully regulate the flow of all small arms in our nation through the use of our secret police units.
Imota
14-06-2008, 03:40
While the Grand Holy Empire of Imota encourages civilian firearm ownership, we prefer to retain the right to determine our gun control policies as we see fit. In particular, our government has seen fit to deny the right of firearm ownership to convicted felons, convicted sex offenders, and the mentally ill. We also regulate the use of high powered anti-vehicle weapons among the populace (seeing them as unecessary for personal defense) and gun use among children by making parents and guardians responsible for their childrens' actions. While other restrictions are in place (weapons must be carried on 'safe', and crimes committed with weapons usually merit an automatic death sentence), we consider our country to be fairly free with regards to gun ownership.

Burgen Alsonis, Ambassador to the WA for the GHEoI
1010102
14-06-2008, 21:19
(Asking to propose this was not done in character. Learn the difference.


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Salzland
14-06-2008, 21:50
While Salzland believes in the right of its citizenry to keep and arm bears... er, keep and bear arms, we hesitate to authorize the WA to permit duly convicted criminals to have unfettered access to military-grade weaponry.
Flibbleites
15-06-2008, 01:08
I have to agree with everyone else on the point of allowing convicted felons access to firearms. Say you've got a guy who was convicted of shooting 20 children, do you honestly think it's a smart idea to allow him to have a gun again?

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

(Asking to propose this was not done in character. Learn the difference.

OOC: That's odd, I don't see an "OOC:" tag on it. Furthermore, people reply IC all the time in this forum, quit whining.
1010102
15-06-2008, 01:58
I have to agree with everyone else on the point of allowing convicted felons access to firearms. Say you've got a guy who was convicted of shooting 20 children, do you honestly think it's a smart idea to allow him to have a gun again?

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

Yes it is.
Tatec
15-06-2008, 02:20
TATEC refuses to back this resolution as it is clear that giving the general population the right to bear arms increases the amount of crime in a country, maybe someone can create a resolution asking for the crackdown on illegal arms deals through the black market?
Flibbleites
16-06-2008, 00:34
I have to agree with everyone else on the point of allowing convicted felons access to firearms. Say you've got a guy who was convicted of shooting 20 children, do you honestly think it's a smart idea to allow him to have a gun again?

Bob Flibble
WA RepresentativeYes it is.

But what's to stop our hypothetical criminal from going and repeating his crime? If you ban him from owning a gun again it'll make it harder for him to obtain a gun and shoot more children. Won't you please think of the children!?

Bob Flibble
WA Representative
1010102
16-06-2008, 01:35
But what's to stop our hypothetical criminal from going and repeating his crime? If you ban him from owning a gun again it'll make it harder for him to obtain a gun and shoot more children. Won't you please think of the children!?

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

Simple. How many people that are convicted of shooting 20 children are going to get out of prision? Barring of course prision escape, but they would be a wanted criminal, and unlikely to walk into a store and buy a gun. Most are given life in prision. (By life I mean death sentence or the rest of their lifes with out parole.)
Quintessence of Dust
16-06-2008, 06:26
Just as a note to everyone: there's really no point having a protracted 'gun control' debate here if no proposal's going to be submitted. That's not what this forum is for.
St Edmund
16-06-2008, 18:32
Simple. How many people that are convicted of shooting 20 children are going to get out of prision? Barring of course prision escape, but they would be a wanted criminal, and unlikely to walk into a store and buy a gun. Most are given life in prision. (By life I mean death sentence or the rest of their lifes with out parole.)
As the proposal is currently worded, even convicts in prison would be entitled to "use, own and transport" guns...
Tatec
16-06-2008, 18:46
If I could the nation of TATEC would go to war with your nation for saying such stupid things about gun control, giving ex criminals access to guns leads to more crime, the WA needs stricter controls on the sales of guns