NationStates Jolt Archive

Outlawing Gambling

Tucker Island
23-05-2008, 22:50
What do you all think about my proposal entitled Outlawing Gambling.
24-05-2008, 01:02
I don't know, why don't you post it here so we can see it?

Bob Flibble
WA Representative
Tucker Island
24-05-2008, 01:20
24-05-2008, 01:35
copy/paste works wonders.
Tucker Island
24-05-2008, 02:54
Outlawing Gambling
A resolution to legalize or outlaw gambling.

Category: Gambling
Legalize/Outlaw: Outlaw
Proposed by: Tucker Island

Description: There are three main reasons why gambling should be outlawed.
1. Gambling will increase poverty very high, because it is very addicting (which is reason number two).
2. Gambling can be very addicting. People need to pay more attention to more important things like family not gambling.
3. Gambling can become very violent. One man got very violent when he ran out of money. he began yelling and arguing. When two guards threatened to throw him out he shot them both.
Outlaw gambling if you want poverty to end along with violence.

Approvals: 2 (WZ Forums, United Union Kingdom)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 108 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Sun May 25 2008
Tucker Island
24-05-2008, 02:55
That work?
The Eternal Kawaii
24-05-2008, 04:39
Gambling is our nation's chief industry. Why do you want to drive us into poverty?
24-05-2008, 04:50

Though with your third reason, I have to ask, how about the 9,999,999 gamblers who don't shoot people in your own nation? They can't because of one person's lack of control?

I. E. I am asking, if you can't control crime in your country, why does thee WA's need to legislate it away in all nations?
Tucker Island
24-05-2008, 05:02
All I am saying is that some nation's have crime problems and this could help.
Tucker Island
24-05-2008, 05:05
Kawaii I'm sorry that you picked such a horrible thing as your chief industry but some countries care for their people not just themselves.
24-05-2008, 05:39
you could just ... you know...

declare gambling illegal in your country, and leave the rest of alone.
Tucker Island
24-05-2008, 05:52
I'm trying to keep every country safe and think of a better world. And abolishing gambling is a very good option.
24-05-2008, 05:56
That will never pass for reasons as stated below:

1. Its not a convincing argument when you put in a hypothetical situation.

2. Its an attack on several nation's economies.

3. Crime and poverty are not related to gambling, at least not the biggest reason. Most crime and poverty is due to high taxes, little rights, and redundant economic policies. Gambling is probably (EDIT) responisble for just half a % when it comes to crime and poverty.
Tucker Island
24-05-2008, 06:03
Where'd you get these numbers. I mean other than your head.
Tucker Island
24-05-2008, 06:06
Lariza, You contradicted yourself when you said it would hurt many nation's economies, then saying it won't have much effect on poverty which in my opinion is a big part of economy.
24-05-2008, 18:53
Lariza, You contradicted yourself when you said it would hurt many nation's economies, then saying it won't have much effect on poverty which in my opinion is a big part of economy.

Never said it would be MANY, just SEVERAL economies of some countries,very few I might add, have a large part of their economy centered around Gambling.

If you read reason 3, you would know that I was stating that Gambling may cause some crime and poverty, but comparing to other things it is not even something worth outlawing since it will cause more damage than fixing.

And as I countinued in my explanation of reason 3, high taxes, stupid policies, and little rights cause most crime and poverty.

When people have little to no rights, or nothing protecting their rights they will probably resort to crime. When taxes are high, people that are poor are unable to move out of poverty. Plus, when the government makes stupid policies it screws the economy.

"half a %"

Meaning 1/2, or 0.5%, nothing really, so I hope I didn't cause you any confusion in that regard. Most people commit crimes for other things, and poverty is usually caused by diffrent things. Yes, some people have commtited crimes and gone into poverty as a result of gambling, but hardly a lot so it doesn't matter if you get rid of gambling, it won't put a huge dent on crime and poverty rates.

In regards to your earlier statement about where I got those numbers, :upyours:
there was no reason for you to be a jerk about something that wasn't even insulting.
Tucker Island
24-05-2008, 19:51
Well, who's being the jerk now. I'm just trying to make a sensible arguement about why this proposal needs to be passed.
Tucker Island
24-05-2008, 19:54
I'm sorry if I sounded like a jerk it's just I think it will help nations.
Tucker Island
25-05-2008, 00:57
Does anybody else have any opinions?
25-05-2008, 19:18
Yup. We don't have a problem with gambling at the moment, beyond the usual collection of addictive personalities who just happened to pick gambling as their addiction, and who would have needed counselling for something anyway. Ban gambling, and you'd give it a mystique that would make it a very big problem indeed.

So, no, I'm not in favour, and frankly your arguments aren't very convincing.

Cerys Coch, Permanent Undersecretary
26-05-2008, 17:20
i dont really have a problem with gambling and crime is not an issue in my nation but i dont think it is good to outlaw gambling.people would still do it anyway i think.i dont think its a good idea though.maybe a reduction of gambling in a certain area might be more bearable for a high gambling nation.


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