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Working Hours Bill proposal

Liberela
30-04-2008, 08:54
I've thought of a new proposal for the WA:

Working Hours Bill
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.


Category: Social Justice
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Liberela
Description:
Accepting that many people work too long and this affects their health negatively.
1:Any employee living in the WA MUST not work more than 3120 hours a year.

2:Any employee MUST not work more than 18 hours a day and 126 hours a week.

3:For every 3 hours of work a 15 minute break must be granted.
Legal minimum breaks are :
3 hours shift: 1 ¼ hour break
6 hours shift: 1 ½ hour break or
2 ¼ hour breaks.
9 hour shift: 3 ¼ breaks or
1 ¼ break and 1 ½ hour break
12 hour shift: 4 ¼ breaks or
2 ½ breaks or
2 ¼ breaks and 1 ½ break.
15 hour shift: 2 ½ hour breaks and 1 ¼ hour break or
5 ¼ breaks or
3 ¼ breaks and 1 ½ hour break
18 hour shift: 3 ½ hour breaks or
2 ¼ breaks and 2 ½ hour breaks or
4 ¼ hour breaks and 1 ½ hour break.
Employers may have employees breaks arranged any time of the day.

Any irregular shift patterns must have minimum equivalent of a 5 minute break every 1 hour but can be arranged into any combination required or desired.

4: This MUST include citizens of the WA holding more than one job paid.
Volunteer work WIL NOT be counted as job.

5: There MUST be a maximum of 12 hour shifts for factory work, Social care work, mining and logging work, agricultural, Education work, and any other dangerous environments as decided by the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’.

ONLY Armed Forces Personnel, jobs decided by the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ for 18 hour shifts ,actors and, arts industry representatives and staff CAN work 18 hour shifts.

Police, emergency service’s and Medical personnel and NGO emergency supply agencies call MUST NOT be included in extreme services.

Police and emergency service’s and Medical personnel can work extra shifts over this total in NATIONAL EMERGENCIES such a Biological attacks, bomb explosions, plane hijackings , Nuclear Explosions and meltdowns, town bombings, in wars and in any other situations decided by the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ .


6: Any employer or Boss asking or forcing employees to break these laws WILL have been considered to have committed an offence of 'Breach of Working Hours Bill' and will be punished seriously by a penalty decided by the individual country. Unlimited fines can be imposed on corporations and companies and fines of 50% of income to managers. This crime however WILL not be punishable by DEATH.

7:Employees breaking these laws WILL also be considered to have committed an offence of 'Breach of Working Hours Bill' but will be punished with minor punishments or small fines of less than 5% of their income. Individual countries WILL decide what punishments are appropriate. These WILL exclude DEATH.

8:A new ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ will be set up to deal with employment law.

9: An Impartial ‘WA Employment Court’ with branches in every country will be set up to deal with breaches of these laws as individual nations may be corrupted by Corporations.

10:The ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ will be funded wholly by the WA.

11: The ‘WA Employment Commission’ will control the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’

12:People may do job s for both the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ as all employees of these organisations WILL be on the PAYROLL of the ‘WA Employment Commission’, this will save money for the WA.

13: All proceeds from fines will go into the funds of the ‘WA Employment Commission’ which controls the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ and their funds respectively..

14: 45% of the WA Employment Commission’s leftover funds will be donated to charity and 15% for savings accounts to fund the creation of new branches of ‘WA employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ in new member states.

15:Any state leaving will have its ‘WA employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ branches dismantled and all employees transferred to a new or existing branch or laid off.

I hope this resolution will solve the problems of too long workers hours.
Charlotte Ryberg
30-04-2008, 10:31
There are quite a lot of parts that are not worthy of including. The simple factors of this resolution, which is about regulating working hours, is to say:

A maximum of 37 and a half hours per week for care workers,
48 hours per week for other sectors in peacetime,
but no restriction in the army and manufacturing industry during war, whereas resources are vital for a victory.

Members nations will be responsible to ensure that the legal limits are enforced.
Quintessence of Dust
30-04-2008, 15:00
I'm not sure the '126 hour week' will be heralded as a particularly striking breakthrough in labour relations... It would be advantageous to have a lower limit (37, 40, 48) with time above that being paid at a higher rate.

You don't need to capitalise words mid-sentence: 'not' has the same force as 'NOT' but is less ugly.

-- Samantha Benson
Congressional Liaison, Office of WA Affairs
Quintessence of Dust, Delegate of Wysteria
Subistratica
30-04-2008, 18:52
TL;DR, sorry. [That is, Too Long; Didn't Read]

Section 3, particularly, was way too much to go through. And I also don't like how there are so many committees being created (I counted 3: the Court, Law Agency, and Comission).
Shang Dang
30-04-2008, 18:55
I highly doubt many employers and countries will be willing to pass a chart of "Do's and a Don'ts". I'm sure our region won't.
St Edmund
30-04-2008, 19:16
Deep-sea fishermen. Farmers, especially at harvest time, or when the livestock are giving birth.
And I'm sure that other people here will be able to think of yet other categories of workers for whom these rules would be unworkable.
Fotar
30-04-2008, 19:36
Yeah...this will need a lot of work on its concision to get anywhere. That being said, the Narnian Kingdom of Fotar would not be supporting this. There are way too many different circumstances that would warrant exceptions to this proposal. In the end, we believe it would be likely that there would be more exceptions to the law than there would be areas affected by it.
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King of the Narnian Kingdom of Fotar
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Liberela
30-04-2008, 19:37
Thanks guys,I will post a revised version and see what you think.:)
Liberela
30-04-2008, 22:43
Here is my revised proposal!

Working Hours Bill
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.


Category: Social Justice
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Liberela
Description:
Accepting that many people work too long and this affects their health negatively and can cause a great deal of stress.
1:Any employee living in the WA must not work more than 2880 hours a year.

2:i:Any employee must not work more than 18 hours a day and 90 hours a week.
ii: Employees can only work 5 days of every week.
3:For every 3 hours of work a 15 minute break must be granted.
Legal minimum breaks are :
3 hours shift: 1 ¼ hour break
6 hours shift: 1 ½ hour break or
2 ¼ hour breaks.
9 hour shift: 3 ¼ breaks or
1 ¼ break and 1 ½ hour break
12 hour shift: 4 ¼ breaks or
2 ½ breaks or
2 ¼ breaks and 1 ½ break.
15 hour shift: 2 ½ hour breaks and 1 ¼ hour break or
5 ¼ breaks or
3 ¼ breaks and 1 ½ hour break
18 hour shift: 3 ½ hour breaks or
2 ¼ breaks and 2 ½ hour breaks or
4 ¼ hour breaks and 1 ½ hour break.
Employers may have employees breaks arranged any time of the day.

Only hours worked will be counted so pilots, transport personnel’s, and cabin crews and any other employees sleeping time overnight will not be counted as shift time

Any irregular shift patterns must have minimum equivalent of a 5 minute break every 1 hour but can be arranged into any combination required or desired.

4: This must include citizens of the WA holding more than one paid job .
Volunteer work will not be counted as job.

5: There must be a maximum of 12 hour working days for factory work, social care work, mining, Transport jobs, logging work, agricultural, Education work, and any other dangerous or very stressful environments as decided by the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’.

Only businessmen, aid agency workers, armed forces personnel, farmers, fishermen and jobs decided to be acceptable to work 18 working days by the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’,actors and, expressive and performing arts industry representatives and staff can work 18 hour days.

Police, emergency service’s and Medical personnel and NGO emergency supply agencies call must not be included in extreme circumstances.

Police and emergency service’s and Medical personnel can work extra shifts over this total in national emergencies such a Biological attacks, bomb explosions, plane hijackings , Nuclear Explosions and meltdowns, town bombings, outbreak of disease, in wars and in any other situations decided by the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’.


6: Any employer or manager asking or forcing employees to break these laws will be considered to have committed an offence of 'Breach of Working Hours Bill' and will be punished seriously by a penalty decided by the individual country. The ‘WA Employment Court’ can also on top of or instead of punishment impose unlimited fines on corporations and companies and fines of 50% of income to managers. This crime however will not be punishable by death.

7:Employees breaking these laws will also be considered to have committed an offence of 'Breach of Working Hours Bill' but will be punished with minor punishments and/or small fines imposed by the ‘WA Employment court’ 5% of their income. Individual countries will decide what punishments are appropriate. These will exclude death.

8:A new ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ will be set up to deal with employment law.

9: An Impartial ‘WA Employment Court’ with branches in every country will be set up to deal with breaches of these laws as individual nations may be corrupted by Corporations.

10:The ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ will be funded wholly by the WA .

11: The ‘WA Employment Law Agency’will run the ‘WA Employment Court’ and will fund all costs incurred by itself and the ‘WA Employment Court’.

12:People may do jobs for both the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ as all employees of these organisations will be on the payroll of the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’.

13: All proceeds from fines will go into the funds of the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ which controls the ‘WA Employment Court’.

14: 45% of the WA Employment Law Agencies leftover funds will be donated to charity and 15% for savings accounts to fund the creation of new branches of ‘WA employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ in new member states. The rest will go into a general savings account for general operation costs .

15:Any state leaving will have its ‘WA employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ branches dismantled and all employees transferred to a new or existing branch or laid off. All property will be sold for money or transferred to other branches if possible and the property is needed.

I hope this resolution will solve the problems of too long workers hours.
Liberela
30-04-2008, 22:52
The 18 hour day and 90 hour week is to accommodate Work Intensive shorter term Jobs requirements(e.g Actors in films, Crab fishers) but there is a 5 day working week!This was done because 126 hours a week was too much, thanks for tip Quintessence of Dust, for lower limits although 48 hours limit was too low!;)
Decapod Ten
30-04-2008, 22:59
10:The ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ will be funded wholly by the WA .

11: The ‘WA Employment Law Agency’will run the ‘WA Employment Court’ and will fund all costs incurred by itself and the ‘WA Employment Court’.

12:People may do jobs for both the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ as all employees of these organisations will be on the payroll of the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’.

13: All proceeds from fines will go into the funds of the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ which controls the ‘WA Employment Court’.

14: 45% of the WA Employment Law Agencies leftover funds will be donated to charity and 15% for savings accounts to fund the creation of new branches of ‘WA employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ in new member states. The rest will go into a general savings account for general operation costs .

15:Any state leaving will have its ‘WA employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ branches dismantled and all employees transferred to a new or existing branch or laid off. All property will be sold for money or transferred to other branches if possible and the property is needed.

wow. i must say this is by and far the most detailed funding regime ive ever seen. kudos. however some of it is nonsensical:

10:The ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ will be funded wholly by the WA .

11: The ‘WA Employment Law Agency’will run the ‘WA Employment Court’ and will fund all costs incurred by itself and the ‘WA Employment Court’.

doesnt #11 just mess with #10? if the WAELA and WAEC are funded by the WA as per #10, what does #11 mean/do? confused.

12:People may do jobs for both the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ as all employees of these organisations will be on the payroll of the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’.

good, but unnecessary, as it is illegal to dictate how commmittees are run. the gnomes like to do it their way.

13: All proceeds from fines will go into the funds of the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ which controls the ‘WA Employment Court’.

14: 45% of the WA Employment Law Agencies leftover funds will be donated to charity and 15% for savings accounts to fund the creation of new branches of ‘WA employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ in new member states. The rest will go into a general savings account for general operation costs.

why not just have procedes fund the WA? lot simpler.

15:Any state leaving will have its ‘WA employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ branches dismantled and all employees transferred to a new or existing branch or laid off. All property will be sold for money or transferred to other branches if possible and the property is needed.

i see this as almost completely unnecessary and dictating how roleplaying is done. i dont think ive seen a proposal that ever accounts for how nations stop existing, or leave the WA. legally the WAELA and WAEC cant affect non-WA nations, or nonexistent nations, so the branches would have to be dismantled without saying so. so this section seems unnecessary and complicating to me.

8:A new ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ will be set up to deal with employment law.

9: An Impartial ‘WA Employment Court’ with branches in every country will be set up to deal with breaches of these laws as individual nations may be corrupted by Corporations.

wait...... what does the WAELA do that the WAEC doesnt? the functions of these committees seem to be unclearly defined and unnecessarily seperate. id also suggest defining these before you start refering to them.
Subistratica
01-05-2008, 04:03
wait...... what does the WAELA do that the WAEC doesnt? the functions of these committees seem to be unclearly defined and unnecessarily seperate. id also suggest defining these before you start refering to them.

That's precisely my main problem: there's too many committees being created by one proposal, to the point where the creator can't even keep them straight..

That, and I certainly will not have anyone dictating how we structure our breaks. I really don't like that chart at all.
Flibbleites
01-05-2008, 04:19
I cannot support this proposal's trampling of National Sovereignty.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

OOC: According to Word, you're about 1500 characters over the limit.
Regular squirrels
01-05-2008, 04:22
IS THIS SERIOUS???


Why would the world gov't worry about working hours? That's a nation's job.
Mikitivity
01-05-2008, 06:38
1:Any employee living in the WA must not work more than 2880 hours a year.

I'm just curious about the rationale behind some of the total numbers like this one. I understand the "tiered" structure you have for breaks.

A general suggestion I have is to consider watering down the entire proposal to change specific numbers to weasel words like "fair" or "reasonable". The reality is many nations, mine included, actually like weasel words. They give us flexibility in the domestic front and the ability to still influence other societies to fall in closer to the hours we choose.

Another option would be to focus on a few protected classes of people. Maybe limiting the hours students in primary education can work or students who are on grant / scholarship programs -- with the goal being to keep them there.
Liberela
01-05-2008, 13:28
Thanks guys heres the new one:

Working Hours Bill
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Liberela
Description:
Accepting that many people work too long and this affects their health negatively and can cause a great deal of stress.
1:Any employee living in the WA must not work more than 2400 hours a year.

2:i:Any employee must not work more than 18 hours a day and 72 hours a week.
ii: Employees can only work 5 days of every week.

3:This must include citizens of the WA holding more than one paid job .
Volunteer work will not be counted as job.

4: A new ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ will be set up to monitor employment laws and check all employers without warning every 2 years, with a one week test.

5: An Impartial ‘WA Employment Court’ with branches in every country will be set up to investigate breaches of these laws and prosecute if people and corporations found guilty as individual nations may be corrupted by Corporations.

6: Total break time on any shift must equal to 5 minutes every hour.
Employers may have employees breaks arranged any time of the day.

Only hours worked will be counted so pilots, transport personnel’s, and cabin crews and any other employees sleeping time overnight will not be counted as shift time although they can be paid for this.

7:There must be a maximum of 12 hour working days for factory work, social care work, mining, Transport jobs, logging work, agricultural, Education work, and any other dangerous or very stressful environments as decided by the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’.

Only businessmen, aid agency workers, armed forces personnel, farmers, fishermen and jobs decided to be acceptable to work 18 working days by the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’,actors and, expressive and performing arts industry representatives and staff can work 18 hour days.

Police and emergency service’s and Medical personnel can work extra shifts over this total in national emergencies such a Biological attacks, bomb explosions, plane hijackings , Nuclear Explosions and meltdowns, town bombings, outbreak of disease, in wars and in any other situations decided by the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’.

8:Any employer or manager asking or forcing employees to break these laws will be considered to have committed an offence of 'Breach of Working Hours Bill' and will be punished seriously by a sentence decided by the ‘WA Employment Court’ or rehabilitation and/or impose unlimited fines on corporations and companies and fines of 50% of income to managers, decided by the ‘WA Employment Court’ .However this crime however will not be punishable by death.

9: Employees breaking these laws will also be considered to have committed an offence of 'Breach of Working Hours Bill' but will be punished with minor punishments or rehabilitation as decided by the ‘WA Employment Court’ and/or small fines 5% of their income. The ‘WA Employment Court’ will decide what punishments are appropriate. These will exclude death.

10:The ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ will be funded wholly by the WA .

11: All proceeds from fines will go to the WA.

I hope this resolution will solve the problems of too long workers hours.

The 72 hour week is based on 18x4 but most will work 12x5=60 hours a week,
the 2400 hour year. This adresses most concerns, I hope!:)
Liberela
01-05-2008, 13:30
Thanks guys heres the new one:

Working Hours Bill
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Liberela
Description:
Accepting that many people work too long and this affects their health negatively and can cause a great deal of stress.
1:Any employee living in the WA must not work more than 2400 hours a year.

2:i:Any employee must not work more than 18 hours a day and 72 hours a week.
ii: Employees can only work 5 days of every week.

3:This must include citizens of the WA holding more than one paid job .
Volunteer work will not be counted as job.

4: A new ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ will be set up to monitor employment laws and check all employers without warning every 2 years, with a one week test.

5: An Impartial ‘WA Employment Court’ with branches in every country will be set up to investigate breaches of these laws and prosecute if people and corporations found guilty as individual nations may be corrupted by Corporations.

6: Total break time on any shift must equal to 5 minutes every hour.
Employers may have employees breaks arranged any time of the day.

Only hours worked will be counted so pilots, transport personnel’s, and cabin crews and any other employees sleeping time overnight will not be counted as shift time although they can be paid for this.

7:There must be a maximum of 12 hour working days for factory work, social care work, mining, Transport jobs, logging work, agricultural, Education work, and any other dangerous or very stressful environments as decided by the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’.

Only businessmen, aid agency workers, armed forces personnel, farmers, fishermen and jobs decided to be acceptable to work 18 working days by the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’,actors and, expressive and performing arts industry representatives and staff can work 18 hour days.

Police and emergency service’s and Medical personnel can work extra shifts over this total in national emergencies such a Biological attacks, bomb explosions, plane hijackings , Nuclear Explosions and meltdowns, town bombings, outbreak of disease, in wars and in any other situations decided by the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’.

8:Any employer or manager asking or forcing employees to break these laws will be considered to have committed an offence of 'Breach of Working Hours Bill' and will be punished seriously by a sentence decided by the ‘WA Employment Court’ or rehabilitation and/or impose unlimited fines on corporations and companies and fines of 50% of income to managers, decided by the ‘WA Employment Court’ .However this crime however will not be punishable by death.

9: Employees breaking these laws will also be considered to have committed an offence of 'Breach of Working Hours Bill' but will be punished with minor punishments or rehabilitation as decided by the ‘WA Employment Court’ and/or small fines 5% of their income. The ‘WA Employment Court’ will decide what punishments are appropriate. These will exclude death.

10:The ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ will be funded wholly by the WA .

11: All proceeds from fines will go to the WA.

I hope this resolution will solve the problems of too long workers hours.

The 72 hour week is based on 18x4 but most will work 12x5=60 hours a week,
the 2400 hour year. This adresses most concerns, I hope!:)
Subistratica
01-05-2008, 15:03
ii: Employees can only work 5 days of every week.

3:This must include citizens of the WA holding more than one paid job
Does this mean, then, that a citizen must split those 5 days between both jobs? Or that they can work 5 days with one and 5 days with the other?

4: A new ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ will be set up to monitor employment laws and check all employers without warning every 2 years, with a one week test.
A test of what? And will it really take a week to do this test?

5: An Impartial ‘WA Employment Court’ with branches in every country will be set up to investigate breaches of these laws and prosecute <i>if people and corporations found guilty as individual nations may be corrupted by Corporations.</i>
What?

8:Any employer or manager asking or forcing employees to break these laws will be considered to have committed an offence of 'Breach of Working Hours Bill' and will be punished seriously by a sentence decided by the ‘WA Employment Court’ or rehabilitation and/or impose unlimited fines on corporations and companies and fines of 50% of income to managers, decided by the ‘WA Employment Court’ .However this crime however will not be punishable by death.
Simply by asking an employee to, say, work 6 days a week instead of 5, the entire company can be forced to pay "unlimited fines"? And what sort of "rehabilitation" would take place? I don't like the sound of this at all.
Decapod Ten
01-05-2008, 23:14
much improved.

3:This must include citizens of the WA

just a pet peve here, nobody is a citizen of the WA. there are citizens of memberstates, but not the WA.

6: Total break time on any shift must equal to 5 minutes every hour.
Employers may have employees breaks arranged any time of the day.

good, but awkward. employers by this can have you work 12 straight hours, then take a 3 straight hour break.

id also include something that denotes by day, hour, and year, you are using standard measurements, because there are nations (Chapek 9) for which a day does not equal 24 hours.

Police and emergency service’s and Medical personnel can work extra shifts over this total in national emergencies such a Biological attacks, bomb explosions, plane hijackings , Nuclear Explosions and meltdowns, town bombings, outbreak of disease, in wars and in any other situations decided by the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’.

id cut the examples, or at the very least most of them. most people know what a national emergency is, and if you have the WAELA define it, examples are unnecessary.

7:There must be a maximum of 12 hour working days for factory work, social care work, mining, Transport jobs, logging work, agricultural, Education work, and any other dangerous or very stressful environments as decided by the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’.

Only businessmen, aid agency workers, armed forces personnel, farmers, fishermen

i just find these examples HILARIOUS. you have "education work" and "social care work" under the "dangerous of very stressful environments" but not "armed forces personell" :p

Only businessmen, aid agency workers, armed forces personnel, farmers, fishermen and jobs decided to be acceptable to work 18 working days by the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’,actors and, expressive and performing arts industry representatives and staff can work 18 hour days.

why not list performing arts industry with the others? makes it clearer.

yep...... keep hammering away.......

oh, and random thought, what about prostitution? how will their hours be counted?

and i still maintain opposition to the passage of this proposal.
The Most Glorious Hack
02-05-2008, 05:37
Category: Social Justice
Strength: SignificantI don't think this category fits.

Also, this strips a lot of freedom from citizens.
Mikitivity
02-05-2008, 05:49
I don't think this category fits.

Also, this strips a lot of freedom from citizens.

I think NS2 should be able to support primary and secondary categories to accommodate situations like this.

That said, I thought that by removing income inequality that *that* does remove freedoms. The category actually sounds right to me.
St Edmund
02-05-2008, 18:14
Yet another group of 'workers' who would have to be exempt from these limits: Politicians...
The Most Glorious Hack
03-05-2008, 06:18
That said, I thought that by removing income inequality that *that* does remove freedoms. The category actually sounds right to me.Those were two separate thoughts. The freedom bit was that it prevents citizens from working more hours if they want.

I'm not really sure that this is Social Justice, though. It's not redistributing wealth or anything, it's just limiting how many hours someone can work. This really sounds more like Human Rights as written.

Or am I delusional here?
Decapod Ten
03-05-2008, 09:43
yes. completely delusional if you like that muschtache.......





oh god... my proposal was just deemed illegal wasnt it?

goodammn beer is good
The Most Glorious Hack
04-05-2008, 06:48
yes. completely delusional if you like that muschtache...Have some respect for the Scatman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scatman_John).
Subistratica
04-05-2008, 07:24
Have some respect for the Scatman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scatman_John).

[OOC: I'VE BEEN WONDERING WHO THAT WAS FOREVER.]
*ahem*

Subistratica maintains its opposition to this proposal.
Liberela
04-05-2008, 18:14
Working Hours Bill
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Liberela
Description:
Accepting that many people work too long and this affects their health negatively and can cause a great deal of stress.
1:Any employee living in the WA must not work more than 2400 hours a year.

2:i:Any employee must not work more than 18 hours a day and 72 hours a week.
ii: Employees can only work 5 days of every week.

3:This must include citizens of the WA holding more than one paid job .
These have to work the 5 days out between the jobs.
Volunteer work will not be counted as job.

4: A new ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ will be set up to monitor employment laws and check all employers without warning every 2 years, with a one week test testing compliance to the employment laws.

5: An Impartial ‘WA Employment Court’ with branches in every country will be set up to investigate reported breaches of these laws and prosecute if people and corporations found guilty, as individual nations may be corrupted by Corporations.

6: Total break time on any shift must equal to 5 minutes every hour.
Employers may have employees breaks arranged any time of the day.

Only hours worked will be counted so pilots, transport personnel’s, and cabin crews and any other employees sleeping time overnight will not be counted as shift time although they can be paid for this.

7:There must be a maximum of 12 hour working days for any jobs decided by the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’.

Only jobs decided to be acceptable to work 18 working days by the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ can work 18 hour days.

Police and emergency service’s and Medical personnel can work extra shifts over this total in national emergencies such a Biological attacks, bomb explosions, plane hijackings , Nuclear Explosions and meltdowns, town bombings, outbreak of disease, in wars and in any other situations decided by the ‘WA Employment Law Agency’.

8:Any employer or manager asking or forcing employees to break these laws will be considered to have committed an offence of 'Breach of Working Hours Bill' and will be punished seriously by a sentence decided by the ‘WA Employment Court’ or rehabilitation and/or unlimited fines on corporations and companies and fines of 50% of income to managers, decided by the ‘WA Employment Court’ .However this crime however will not be punishable by death.

9: Employees breaking these laws will also be considered to have committed an offence of 'Breach of Working Hours Bill' but will be punished with minor punishments or rehabilitation as decided by the ‘WA Employment Court’ and/or small fines 5% of their income. The ‘WA Employment Court’ will decide what punishments are appropriate. These will exclude death.

10:The ‘WA Employment Law Agency’ and ‘WA Employment Court’ will be funded wholly by the WA .

11: All proceeds from fines will go to the WA.

I hope this resolution will solve the problems of too long workers hours.

Has it improved?
Quintessence of Dust
05-05-2008, 03:29
Sorry, this is silly. First, your numbers are totally are totally arbitrary: from 18 hours a day, down to 72 hours per week, down to 2400 hours per year. Why the rounding down? Why these numbers at all?

Second, working more than 5 days a week is not harmful in the slightest. Working seven twelve hour shifts in manual labour is, I'm sure, very harmful: but this would even ban an office worker coming in on the weekend!

Third, working hour restrictions for an agricultural or factory worker should obviously differ from someone in retail or administration.

Fourth, you have answered none of the questions about overtime, proliferation of committees, arbitrary sentencing, or categorisation.

My suggestion: DON'T simply repost yet another draft, minutely tweaked. Forget the draft for now and try responding to some of the comments. If you're not interesting in replying to them, fair enough, but posting the draft then seems a little pointless.

-- Samantha Benson
Congressional Liaison, Office of WA Affairs
Quintessence of Dust, Delegate of Wysteria
Liberela
05-05-2008, 08:32
Proposal is stalled for now.
Decapod Ten
05-05-2008, 08:46
Proposal is stalled for now.

awwww......