NationStates Jolt Archive

Category: Advancement of Industry
Area of Effect: Environmental Deregulation


International Energy Agency.


Recognizing that oil and coal as a fuel will no longer be practicably available to generate the power that will be needed by economically developing nations around the world, and seeing that new and more efficient sources of power are going to be needed in the near future, we will hereby form the International Energy Agency (I.E.A.) and charge it with the duties of:


(1) Building new solar, wind, geothermal, hydro, natural gas, nuclear, and hydrogen power stations in developing nations around the world.
(2) Replacing older stations with newer, more efficient power plants without disruption of the power service.
(3) Inspecting all major power plants to ensure that they are running as efficiently, safely, and cleanly as possible.
(4) Building international grids to distribute the power quickly and efficiently and without loss of service.
(5) Develop new sources of energy or improve on older technology.



Seeing that there are hundreds of power plants in all WA nations, for a station to come under I.E.A. jurisdiction the plant must produce more than 2,500MW.


All plants that the I.E.A. builds will feed into the particular nation’s grid, will produce no less than 7,500MW, and will be managed by the nation it is built in. This does not include nuclear and hydrogen plants which will be managed by the I.E.A.


Any plant that is deemed in need of replacement will be left online until the new plant is brought online and operating safely, efficiently, and has at lest 35% more output.


The I.E.A. is a not-for-profit organization, and any technological advancement made by the I.E.A. will be shared with all WA nations.


The I.E.A. will be funded by the WA and member nation.

Might want to look up the word "deregulation".

If you do not put nucleur power plants in your proposal, we will support it.
There is no solution for the nuclear waste. Even if we would solve that, the power used by the mining, transporting, enriching the fuel, building the plants and clearing the plants and storing the nuclear waste (consider that for more than many thousend years), is so much that there is hardly a profit in energy from it. It has used so much gasoline and so for it that it would be easier (and safer) to use that fuel for electricity.

I am not oppesed against studying how to improve nuclear energy, but before it is improved no new nuclear power plants should be build.

Greetings,
Cocoamok,
WA delegate of Intelligentsia Islands

are hydrogen plants all right?

And what about 'ocean thermal' power-plants?

are hydrogen plants all right?
How are you going to generate the Hydrogen for them?

To deregulate is to actually to not take care of the environment. This isn't going to be an ideal category for an agency, which should actually promote research of alternative and cleaner sources of energy.

I find it not wise to promote a specific form of energy because that would be favoritism. Not everyone will want nuclear power plants or wind turbines in their backyard, consider that there is never going to be an ultimate solution to all the energy problems nations may face at any time. I really wished there was, though!

You may want to encourage developed member nations to help assist financially in building new energy power plants in poorer countries too.

Also, don't specify number of wattages too specifically. Make it a bit more general by saying along the lines of "Generating enough electricity to satisfy the needs of a member nation."

For most resolutions under draft, a lot of changes have to be made to become the definitive version. My Relief Aid proposal, now at vote, underwent about 12 revisions, both minor and major.

And what about 'ocean thermal' power-plants?


How are you going to generate the Hydrogen for them?

you have to split water to git hydrogen, but the plant will be able to produce the power needed to do that with plenty to spare. Ocean Thermal is a good idea but the cost to power is pretty small, although the technology could improved by I.E.A. research.

International Energy Agency.


Recognizing that oil and coal as a fuel will no longer be practicably available to generate the power that will be needed by economically developing nations around the world, and seeing that new and more efficient sources of power are going to be needed in the near future, we will hereby form the International Energy Agency (I.E.A.) and charge it with the duties of:


(1) Building new solar, wind, geothermal, hydro, natural gas, and hydrogen power stations in developing nations around the world.
(2) Replacing older stations with newer, more efficient power plants without disruption of the power service.
(3) Inspecting all major power plants to ensure that they are running as efficiently, safely, and cleanly as possible.
(4) Building international grids to distribute the power quickly and efficiently and without loss of service.
(5) Develop new sources of energy or improve on older technology.
(6) Less developed nations can petition the I.E.A. for ad in the form of new power plants to be built in their countries.


Seeing that there are thousands of power plants in all WA nations, for a station to come under I.E.A. jurisdiction the plant must produce more than 5% of the nation’s usage.


All plants that the I.E.A. builds will feed into the particular nation’s grid, will produce no less than 15% of the particular nation’s demands, and will be managed by the nation it is built in. This does not include hydrogen plants which will be managed by the I.E.A.


Any plant that is deemed in need of replacement will be left online until the new plant is brought online and operating safely, efficiently, and has at least 35% more output.


Nations that petition the I.E.A. for ad must summit to an inquiry to determine that the nation is sound politically and to set the nation’s actual power needs.


The I.E.A. is a not-for-profit organization, and any technological advancement made by the I.E.A. will be shared with all WA nations.


The I.E.A. will be funded by the WA and member nation.

Shake up the preamble a little bit to say something along the lines of:

----

UNDERSTANDING:
a) That energy is a vital resource for the development of Society, and;
b) That energy requires the use of a Member Nation's resources;

CONCERNED:
a) That not all nations have sufficient access to resources or facilities required to produce energy, and;
b) That certain forms of energy production are believed to do harm to the environment;

The World Assembly,

BELIEVING:
That to generate energy using reputable, renewable and/or sensible resources, and to ensure fair distribution of energy to every member nation is essential for sustainable development of all society;

ESTABLISHES the International Energy Council (IEC), whose responsibilities shall be to...

----

In the NationStates world, don't assume that oil and coal are under threat, just say that we need to get energy from renewable and sensible sources. Also consider establishing a international grid later on.

This is a bit of a magic wand proposal. A committee will wave its wand and build everyone power stations? Power plants supplying more than one seventh of the energy demand of nations with population in the billions? An international energy agency is a good idea, but this proposal is a bit thin on substance.

Also, it doesn't take on the main issue in conversion to renewable energy, that is, decentralisation. The use of massive centralised power plants feeding into a grid isn't realistic; it's much preferable to have smaller, local sources of power.

-- Samantha Benson
Congressional Liaison, Office of WA Affairs
Quintessence of Dust, Delegate of Wysteria

you have to split water to git hydrogen, but the plant will be able to produce the power needed to do that with plenty to spare.
No. It won't be able to do so. Even at 100% efficiency, which is a level whose attainment I consider rather improbable, the energy obtained by burning a given amount of hydrogen (into water) can NOT exceed the amount of energy that was needed to split that much hydrogen out of water in the first place. That's a matter of basic thermodynamics.

*mutters something uncomplimentary about people who seem to believe in 'perpetual motion' systems*


Alfred Devereux Sweynsson MD,
Speaker Afar to the World Assembly
for the government of
The Kingdom of St Edmund.

No. It won't be able to do so. Even at 100% efficiency, which is a level whose attainment I consider rather improbable, the energy obtained by burning a given amount of hydrogen (into water) can NOT exceed the amount of energy that was needed to split that much hydrogen out of water in the first place. That's a matter of basic thermodynamics.

*mutters something uncomplimentary about people who seem to believe in 'perpetual motion' systems*


Alfred Devereux Sweynsson MD,
Speaker Afar to the World Assembly
for the government of
The Kingdom of St Edmund.

You are quite right, but hydrogen can be quite usefull for stocking the energy out of wind and sun.

I agree with Samantha Benson on the % in the nations with population in the billions.

And decentralization will be quite usefull. In our nation we have small heat- power systems in the industry. They distribute that to other users in the neighboorhood without much power loss (due to short distances).

Success with this resolution, it will become good I think.

Cocoamok

International Energy Agency.
...we will hereby form the International Energy Agency (I.E.A.) and charge it with the duties of:
...
(5) Develop new sources of energy or improve on older technology.
(6) Less developed nations can petition the I.E.A. for ad in the form of new power plants to be built in their countries.


Just a grammar issue, develop should be developing, and 6 needs to be reworded entirely. Also, I'm assuming they would want to petition for aid, not ad. Perhaps something like <<Providing aid to less developed nations in the form of new power plants.>> the petitioning process could be explained later on in the proposal.

i'm going to remove 6. 1,2 and 4 are for developing nations in the sense that developed nations dont need grids and new power plant, thay already have them.

UNDERSTANDING.
a) That in this day and age energy is a necessary resource as is oil, lumber and water.
b) That energy requires the use of large amounts of resources.


CONCERNED.
a) That not all nations have sufficient access to resources or facilities required to produce energy.
b) That certain forms of energy production can do harm to the environment.


RECOGNIZING: that oil and coal as a fuel will no longer be practicably available to generate the power that will be needed by economically developing nations around the world, and seeing that new and more efficient sources of power are going to be needed in the near future, we will hereby form the International Energy Agency (I.E.A.) and charge it with the duties of:


(1) Building new solar, wind, geothermal, hydro, natural gas, and hydrogen power stations in developing nations around the world.
(2) Replacing older stations with newer, more efficient power plants without disruption of the power service.
(3) Inspecting all major power plants to ensure that they are running as efficiently, safely, and cleanly as possible.
(4) Building international grids to distribute the power quickly and efficiently and without loss of service.
(5) Developing new sources of energy or improve on older technology.


Seeing that there are thousands of power plants in all WA nations, for a station to come under I.E.A. jurisdiction the plant must produce more than 5% of the nation’s usage.


All plants that the I.E.A. builds will feed into the particular nation’s grid, will produce no less than 15% of the particular nation’s demands, and will be managed by the nation it is built in. This does not include hydrogen plants which will be managed by the I.E.A.


Any plant that is deemed in need of replacement will be left online until the new plant is brought online and operating safely, efficiently, and has at least 25% more output.


The I.E.A. is a not-for-profit organization, and any technological advancement made by the I.E.A. will be shared with all WA nations.


The I.E.A. will be funded by the WA and member nation.