NationStates Jolt Archive


Second Attempt: Coordinating Relief Aid

Charlotte Ryberg
06-04-2008, 12:29
Coordinating Relief Aid

A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice, Strength: Mild, Proposed by: Charlotte Ryberg

RECOGNIZING the existence of many specialized non-governmental organizations (abbreviated as NGOs), both at domestic and international level, focusing on providing humanitarian aid to both individuals and governments;

APPLAUDING the efforts of such NGOs for promoting international peace and strengthening the ties between nations;

OBSERVING that the World Assembly has not designated a single point of responsibility for coordinating the efforts of such NGOs;

REALIZING there are duplications of some relief efforts, and that communication problems may create inefficiencies in absence of a clear single point of responsibility;

The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING that all citizens of member nations should be protected by such a humanitarian group.

1. ESTABLISHES the International Coordinated Relief Committee (ICRC), an organization whose sole duty is to co-ordinate of relief aid of NGOs in all member nations;

2. MANDATES that the ICRC shall be funded from the resources of the World Assembly, but;

3. PERMITS the ICRC to accept donations and grants from individual persons as a goodwill gesture;

4.1. DEFINES a major disaster as an event which may threaten lives and livelihoods, such as natural disasters, terrorist attacks and war;

4.2. DEFINES the functions of the ICRC, whose role shall be to:
a) Provide international coordination of food, shelter, and humanitarian aid efforts in nations affected by a major disaster;
b) Co-ordinate the efforts of existing NGOs in member nations at an international level;
c) Provide training to volunteers of NGOs and the ICRC itself in preparedness for such disasters.

5. INSTRUCTS the ICRC to:
a) manage and prioritize the allocation of resources to specific situations or emergencies, based on the current inability of other governmental and NGOs to meet all of the needs of those situations;
b) not promote conflict or war in any way;
c) not abuse their budget, in any way that may hamper the true purpose of the organization itself.

ENCOURAGES member nations and existing NGOs to share recovery plans and aid each other through the halls of the ICRC.

Co-authored by Mikitivity.
Quintessence of Dust
06-04-2008, 16:15
A few things:

This is really just a chopped up version of the original proposal. Whether or not you get slapped for plagiarism, it would at least be nice to make a new effort.

It's not Human Rights. This is really a Social Justice issue, as that increases Healthcare funding. Unless you argue how this enacts a positive freedom, I think the category is a big stretch.

Numerous types of discrimination - based on gender, sexual orientation, political beliefs, economic status - would still be permitted by the rather limited third subclause.

On funding, this is a perfect opportunity to move away from the biased, corruption-inducing mechanism of the old IRCO and to introduce a simple system where each nation contributes a small fee to provide for upkeep.

There are some other things to consider. These include: working with other agencies; providing training; developing infrastructure; and rules on when the IRCO is allowed to intercede and when not.

We consider this one of the most important international agencies to resurrect, but hopefully only after a comprehensive revamping of its mission.

-- Dr. Luc Monsettier
Chair, Quintessential Red Crystal Organization
International Health Advisor, Department of Confusion & Uncertainty
Quintessence of Dust, Delegate of Wysteria
Charlotte Ryberg
06-04-2008, 16:37
something like this?

The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING that all citizens of member nations should be protected by such a humanitarian group.

WORRIED that in an event of a major disaster, efforts to rescue and rebuild livelihoods may be hampered by lack of unity between member nations.

ESTABLISHES the International Red Crystal Organization (IRCO), an organization whose sole duty is to provide support for all member nations.

MANDATES that all member nations contribute a small fee to support the work of the IRCO, but;

ALLOWS the IRCO to accept donations and grants from individual persons as a goodwill gesture.

DEFINES a major disaster as a disaster caused by the following:
- Natural disasters
- Terrorist attacks
- War

DEFINES the functions of the IRCO, whose role shall be to:
1) Provide food, shelter, and relief aid to those in need, in an event of a major disaster;
2) Lay foundations for recovery after a major disaster;
2) Co-operate with other relief agencies to realise the above two clauses;
4) Provide training to volunteers in preparedness for such disasters;

MANDATES that the IRCO shall only intervene in the event that a member nation is incapable of providing relief to those in need, independently.

You should understand that I am quite desperate to resurrect the IRCO, or to have it replaced, at least.
Mikitivity
06-04-2008, 19:32
DEFINES the functions of the IRCO, whose role shall be to:
1) Provide food, shelter, and relief aid to those in need, in an event of a major disaster;
2) Lay foundations for recovery after a major disaster;
2) Co-operate with other relief agencies to realise the above two clauses;
4) Provide training to volunteers in preparedness for such disasters;

First, Mikitivity would rather that the existing International Red Cross Organization be re-recognized by the World Assembly. This is no need to change the larger organizations name.

Second, the roll of the Red Cross should not be to provide food, shelter, and humanitarian aid, but rather to provide international coordination of food, shelter, and humanitarian aid efforts. This distinction is important because it recognizes that many NGOs exist that already provide these services, but our organization should recognize one such organization to be the coordinating agency.

Third, recovery is a situation dependent activity. The IRCO can certainly work to assist nations or even regions in recovery, but my government feels national governments should not come to feel that any NGO should be the primary planning agency for recovery efforts. My government would like to see this thought devoted to an entire clause which encourages nations to *share* recovery plans and aid each other *through* the offices of the IRCO.

If there is a large enough interest in the concepts I've proposed, the Mikitivity Council of Mayors has authorized my office to draft and sponsor an alternative proposal which would focus on international cooperation and World Assembly recognition of existing humanitarian aid & relief organizations.

Thanks,
Howie T. Katzman
Mikitivity
06-04-2008, 19:40
You should understand that I am quite desperate to resurrect the IRCO, or to have it replaced, at least.

Just to add, I'd also be more than happy to simply limit my staff's work to helping your government with the language, but we really don't want to pander to the Crystal crowd by renaming the IRCO.

OOC: That is assuming that the International Committee of the Red Cross hasn't also sent Max a cease-and-desist order yet. ;)
Frisbeeteria
06-04-2008, 20:22
First, Mikitivity would rather that the existing International Red Cross Organization be re-recognized by the World Assembly. This is no need to change the larger organizations name.

I'm going to have to put the kibosh on Red Cross, Red Crescent, and Red Crystal (the lesser known but still copyrighted) organizations. See the ICRC copyright page (http://www.icrc.org/Web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/html/copyright), where it states:
3) Red cross and red crescent emblems are protected symbols under international humanitarian law and national laws. Any use that is not expressly authorized by the Geneva Conventions and their Additional Protocols constitutes a misuse of the emblem. Use of these emblems by unauthorised persons is strictly forbidden. Contact ICRC for more information.
Having been though this once already, let's not start out by going through it again.
Decapod Ten
06-04-2008, 20:52
might i suggest changing the color? is Gold Crystal copyrighted? of Crimson Cross? oooo how about Mauve Crescent? while the copyrighting is indeed a serious issue, there are easy, easy ways around it.
Cobdenia
06-04-2008, 23:19
There's no way I'd vote for this unless you choose to change it to the Red Lauburu, Sarcelly, or Tursaansydän. I'm assuming you've already decided against the fylfot...
Gobbannium
07-04-2008, 01:12
Go on, be classical. Use the Red Caduceus, you know you want to :-)
[NS]The Wolf Guardians
07-04-2008, 02:51
Red tesseract. Why do we need to call it (color) (shape) anyway? Why not the International Aid Coordination Committee or Group or... you know? Something... different?
Omigodtheykilledkenny
07-04-2008, 03:20
I'm going to have to put the kibosh on Red Cross, Red Crescent, and Red Crystal (the lesser known but still copyrighted) organizations. See the ICRC copyright page (http://www.icrc.org/Web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/html/copyright), where it states:

3) Red cross and red crescent emblems are protected symbols under international humanitarian law and national laws. Any use that is not expressly authorized by the Geneva Conventions and their Additional Protocols constitutes a misuse of the emblem. Use of these emblems by unauthorised persons is strictly forbidden. Contact ICRC for more information.Having been though this once already, let's not start out by going through it again.That only mentions the logos, not the name. Under the current ruleset (which was not created till after the IRCO res), the use of the term "Red Cross" may be an RL violation, but I really don't think "possible RL copyright violation" should become a new rules violation here. The "no RL references" thing already deems it moot.
Mikitivity
07-04-2008, 03:46
I'm going to have to put the kibosh on Red Cross, Red Crescent, and Red Crystal (the lesser known but still copyrighted) organizations. See the ICRC copyright page (http://www.icrc.org/Web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/html/copyright), where it states:

Having been though this once already, let's not start out by going through it again.

Fair and logical. :)

There is no real *need* to come up with a symbol anyways, but a World Assembly "Multi-Governmental Organization Humanitarian Aid Coordination Committee" (MGHACCC) still has some value in really recognizing that many of us can roleplay around the RL copyright laws with our own nations. If the ICRC really wants to issue me a cease and desist for *thinking* there is a Mikitivity Rote Kruez, then they've got some serious problem. ;)
Mikitivity
07-04-2008, 03:47
The Wolf Guardians;13588398']Red tesseract. Why do we need to call it (color) (shape) anyway? Why not the International Aid Coordination Committee or Group or... you know? Something... different?

I agree on both points. No need to create (in language) a symbol, and your suggestion is completely fine with me. :)
St Edmund
07-04-2008, 17:49
I agree on both points. No need to create (in language) a symbol, and your suggestion is completely fine with me. :)
OOC: Having a symbol (or set of alternative symbols) defined might be useful if anybody wants to add, in a later proposal, the use of the same symbol to mark hospitals, hospital ships, & so on, in wartime... as the Red Cross is used in RL...
Charlotte Ryberg
07-04-2008, 20:47
Please note the word IRCO is not finalized yet. Red tesseract, International Aid Coordination Committee or Group, Red Caduceus, Red Lauburu, Sarcelly, or Tursaansydän, Gold Crystal, Crimson Cross, Mauve Crescent... come on, make up your mind, there may be natural disasters ongoing at the moment!

The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING that all citizens of member nations should be protected by such a humanitarian group.

WORRIED that in an event of a major disaster, efforts to rescue and rebuild livelihoods may be hampered by lack of unity between member nations.

ESTABLISHES the International Red Cross Organization (IRCO), an organization whose sole duty is to provide support for all member nations.

MANDATES that all member nations contribute a small fee to support the work of the IRCO, but;

ALLOWS the IRCO to accept donations and grants from individual persons as a goodwill gesture.

DEFINES a major disaster as a disaster caused by the following:
- Natural disasters
- Terrorist attacks
- War

DEFINES the functions of the IRCO, whose role shall be to:
1) Provide international coordination of food, shelter, and humanitarian aid efforts in nations affected by a major disaster;
4) Provide training to volunteers in preparedness for such disasters;

MANDATES that the IRCO shall only intervene in the event that a member nation is incapable of providing relief to those in need, independently.

ENCOURAGES member nations and other charities of humanitarian aid to share recovery plans and aid each other through the halls of the IRCO.

The resolution clearly named 'The World Assembly', Rez. number 245 says the international law is indeed blank, so the IRCO is gone until I revive it. I ask you, have you really reached a consensus on what the organization is really going to be named?
Frisbeeteria
07-04-2008, 21:49
an organization whose sole duty is to provide support for all member nations

Hmm. Loophole city.

My neighbor is attacking me! I need "support". IRCO, you must provide me with bombs! I'm a dues-paying IRCO member, so you're mandated to do so!

My neighbor attacked me, and my people have lost their jobs and homes. IRCO, you must "support" me by providing homes and all living expenses while my people "rebuild livelihoods". Given that they're a bunch of lazy bastards, it might take 10-15 years of full support ... but then, you're mandated to provide it.


Needs some work there, chief.
Snefaldia
07-04-2008, 22:03
To avoid any potential problems, why not just call it the "International Medical Organization?"
The Popotan
07-04-2008, 22:17
To avoid any potential problems, why not just call it the "International Medical Organization?"Indeed. When I saw the name 2 ideas came to mind:

Some despotic organization bent on forcing others to comply with them

or

Some organization devoted to development and spread of recrational drugs.
DRASANGA
07-04-2008, 22:54
I think that noone should re-form this orginization. I base this opinion on the belif that if someone needs help, then ask for it. Don't create a comittee, or orgimaze a group, because as my most learned collauge has pointed out, this type of legislation points the path for a bunch of people who can help themselves if they got to work. Now I relize that there are nations that need some help, but then they should enter a contract with another nation / set of nations stating relif for something in return. This would solve both the wording problem and the afore mentioned work incentive problem this legislation provides.
Mikitivity
08-04-2008, 04:56
OOC: Having a symbol (or set of alternative symbols) defined might be useful if anybody wants to add, in a later proposal, the use of the same symbol to mark hospitals, hospital ships, & so on, in wartime... as the Red Cross is used in RL...

Oh, there is no copyright to using a red cross on a white background on a hospital ship ... in fact, it is one of the provisions of the RL Geneva Convention. :)

The organization need not have a symbol, but I *do* strongly support the identification of a few symbols for the exact situations you have in mind.
Charlotte Ryberg
08-04-2008, 15:18
International Medical Organization? try the International Relief Committee. All this is going to do (in terms of game mechanics) is increase basic welfare. By co-incidence the IRC was chosen: it's just an acronym. That's why Wikipedia disambiguation pages exist. :headbang:


WORRIED that in an event of a major disaster, efforts to rescue and rebuild livelihoods may be hampered by lack of unity between member nations;

CONVINCED that an international relief organization must exist if civilians are to survive a major disaster;

The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING that all citizens of member nations should be protected by such a humanitarian group.

ESTABLISHES the International Red Cross (IRC), an organization whose sole duty is to co-ordinate of relief aid in all member nations;

MANDATES that all member nations contribute a small fee to support the work of the IRC, but;

ALLOWS the IRC to accept donations and grants from individual persons as a goodwill gesture.

DEFINES a major disaster as a disaster caused by the following:
- Natural disasters
- Terrorist attacks
- War
- Any other events which may threaten lives and livelihoods.

DEFINES the functions of the IRC, whose role shall be to:
1) Provide international coordination of food, shelter, and humanitarian aid efforts in nations affected by a major disaster;
2) Provide training to volunteers in preparedness for such disasters;

MANDATES:
1) that the IRC shall only intervene in the event that a member nation is incapable of providing relief to those in need, independently.
2) that the IRC shall not promote conflict and war in any way.
2) that the IRC shall not abuse their budget, in any way that may hamper the true purpose of the organization itself.

ENCOURAGES member nations and other charities of humanitarian aid to share recovery plans and aid each other through the halls of the IRC.
St Edmund
08-04-2008, 18:16
To avoid any potential problems, why not just call it the "International Medical Organization?"
How about because my government is trying to keep the "International Meteorological Organization" in existence, as an independent agency now rather than under the auspices of the WA, following the blanket repeal that did away with UN Resolution #148?

Alfred Devereux Sweynsson MD,
Speaking for the government of
The Protectorate of the St Edmundan Antarctic
Snefaldia
08-04-2008, 19:17
Snark will get you nowhere, sir. It would have been more helpful to suggest an alternate name- for example, "International Emergency Medical Organization," "International Health Organization." There's two, I'm sure you can come up with them just as easily.

Dr. Nëmô Taranton
Ambassador Plenipotens
Tanular
08-04-2008, 19:49
The words 'health' and 'medical' and their derivatives should not be used in the name of this organization. It is a relief agency, and to use health and medical in the name may conflict with any future attempts to establish organizations such as the RL World Health Organization, for the purpose of combating disease or health issues. This organization is disaster relief, and some variation on Red Cross would mostly likely be best (if it has been affirmed that Red Cross is unacceptable) as it provides for an easy reference, both for people and for future resolutions to use the symbol for whatever purpose.

On that note, the color and symbol should be something visible, recognizable, and easily drawn (as both the cross and crescent can be quickly painted in a stroke or two on almost anything).
Omigodtheykilledkenny
08-04-2008, 19:49
Dub it "International Coordinated Relief Committee" (ICRC). That way, we'll have the same acronym as the RL ICRC (Int'l Cmte of the Red Cross), and in RP, we can use a red cross and the acronym ICRC. It's like having our own Red Cross, just without using its name. :p
Charlotte Ryberg
08-04-2008, 20:00
Okay, try this (fuming). Oh, you're so picky...

WORRIED that in an event of a major disaster, efforts to rescue and rebuild livelihoods may be hampered by lack of unity between member nations;

CONVINCED that an international relief organization must exist if civilians are to survive a major disaster;

The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING that all citizens of member nations should be protected by such a humanitarian group.

ESTABLISHES the International Coordinated Relief (ICRC), an organization whose sole duty is to co-ordinate of relief aid in all member nations;

MANDATES that all member nations contribute a small fee to support the work of the IRC, but;

ALLOWS the IRC to accept donations and grants from individual persons as a goodwill gesture.

DEFINES a major disaster as a disaster caused by the following:
- Natural disasters
- Terrorist attacks
- War
- Any other events which may threaten lives and livelihoods.

DEFINES the functions of the ICRC, whose role shall be to:
1) Provide international coordination of food, shelter, and humanitarian aid efforts in nations affected by a major disaster;
2) Provide training to volunteers in preparedness for such disasters;

MANDATES:
1) that the ICRC shall only intervene in the event that a member nation is incapable of providing relief to those in need, independently.
2) that the ICRC shall not promote conflict and war in any way.
2) that the ICRC shall not abuse their budget, in any way that may hamper the true purpose of the organization itself.

ENCOURAGES member nations and other charities of humanitarian aid to share recovery plans and aid each other through the halls of the ICRC.
Gobbannium
09-04-2008, 03:39
DEFINES a major disaster as a disaster caused by the following:
- Natural disasters
- Terrorist attacks
- War
- Any other events which may threaten lives and livelihoods.
This seems like a bit of a useless definition. Why not just toss the pointless examples and define a major disaster as "any event which threatens lives and livelihoods"? Or "a disaster caused by any event blah blah..."? Or just not bother, because it's all a bit like defining an elephant when calling it an elephant would work just as well.

MANDATES:
1) that the ICRC shall only intervene in the event that a member nation is incapable of providing relief to those in need, independently.
The comma there can only cause grief because it makes the sentence weirdly ambiguous. Do you really mean that the ICRC can only intervene off its own bat (independently) if a member nation can't cope? Can it be invited in if the member nation could cope but wants help anyway?

--
Cerys Coch, Permanent Undersecretary
Flibbleites
09-04-2008, 04:36
Okay, try this (fuming). Oh, you're so picky...It's lack of pickyness that, back in the UN, got us such gems as Promotion of Solar Panels (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9692882&postcount=123).

Bob Flibble
WA Representative
Mikitivity
09-04-2008, 05:16
Dub it "International Coordinated Relief Committee" (ICRC). That way, we'll have the same acronym as the RL ICRC (Int'l Cmte of the Red Cross), and in RP, we can use a red cross and the acronym ICRC. It's like having our own Red Cross, just without using its name. :p

OOC: Do keep in mind that a number of players have their own domestic NGOs similar to the American Red Cross. This resolution really shouldn't change that at all. In fact, I feel a goal of the resolution should be to recognize domestic NGO aid agencies. Let's open the door and keep it that way. The ICRC isn't gonna bother with small fish.

And I kinda like different names to strengthen the no RL references in resolutions. I would rather keep Max and the Mods busy on other things ... like giving us more issues! :)
Mikitivity
09-04-2008, 05:26
Old Preamble:

WORRIED that in an event of a major disaster, efforts to rescue and rebuild livelihoods may be hampered by lack of unity between member nations;

CONVINCED that an international relief organization must exist if civilians are to survive a major disaster;

I'd like this to be the longer part of the resolution ... and since the WA has a clean slate, I'd advocate that we make Preambles tell the world why the resolution is important. This is the justification portion of a resolution. :)

The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING the existence of many specialized non-governmental organizations (NGOs) both at the domestic and international level focusing on providing humanitarian aid to both individuals and governments,

APPLAUDING the efforts of these NGOs for promoting international peace and strengthening the ties between nations,

OBSERVING that the World Assembly has not designated a single point of responsibility for coordinating the efforts of these NGOs,

REALIZING there are duplications of some relief efforts and that communication problems may create inefficiencies in the absence of a clear single point of responsibility,

See the above basically tells people, "Hey, we need somebody to take on the role of coordinating everything." In RL, the ICRC really tries to do this. The Geneva based organization takes resources from domestic NGOs and moves them around. I think this is what we want. :)
Omigodtheykilledkenny
09-04-2008, 06:03
OOC: Do keep in mind that a number of players have their own domestic NGOs similar to the American Red Cross. This resolution really shouldn't change that at all. In fact, I feel a goal of the resolution should be to recognize domestic NGO aid agencies. Let's open the door and keep it that way. The ICRC isn't gonna bother with small fish.

And I kinda like different names to strengthen the no RL references in resolutions. I would rather keep Max and the Mods busy on other things ... like giving us more issues! :)I'm sorry, I don't follow. What exactly is wrong with the proposed name? You don't like the acronym?
Mikitivity
09-04-2008, 06:08
I'm sorry, I don't follow. What exactly is wrong with the proposed name? You don't like the acronym?

I kinda don't like it -- it will confuse some people into thinking we are pretending it is the RL ICRC. Even IRCO was pretty similar.

To be clear: I see some benefits there too ... the acronyms are easily recognized by most of us. But it sounds like we are now working to really separate the game even more from RL, so we can sweep this one up too! :)
Omigodtheykilledkenny
09-04-2008, 06:17
Maybe we should leave aside concerns about the name and focus on the proposal itself first, if some people are going to get unnecessarily picky about what the committee calls itself.

Honestly, the name was intended to preserve the tradition of the former UN IRCO while staying in the boundaries of Fris's "ruling." Maybe we should just call it the "WA Inoffensive Non-Derivative Committee Name That Pleases Everybody" (WAINDCNTPE)? I kinda like it. :D
Mikitivity
09-04-2008, 06:25
Maybe we should leave aside concerns about the name and focus on the proposal itself first, if some people are going to get unnecessarily picky about what the committee calls itself.

Honestly, the name was intended to preserve the tradition of the former UN IRCO while staying in the boundaries of Fris's "ruling." Maybe we should just call it the "WA Inoffensive Non-Derivative Committee Name That Pleases Everybody" (WAINDCNTPE)? I kinda like it. :D

*nod* You're right, on both counts. ;)

Did you like my alternative preamble?
Omigodtheykilledkenny
09-04-2008, 14:40
WAINDCNTPE it is, then. :p

I very much agree that proposals contain a justification for their existence, and that proposal authors should do their best to include substantive arguments in favor of their legislation in the preamble. Your proposed text is nicely done, although obviously it's up to the author whether or not to include it.
Charlotte Ryberg
09-04-2008, 16:28
Gobbannium: A 'such as', in place of the existing could have the potential to give an idea of what a natural disaster is, but you're right.

Flibbleites: Agreed!

Mikitivity: you'll be credited for that idea. I really like it.

I've decided to come up with something unique if you agree: it's Tia's Treaty. Not a nation name, but it's catchy.

The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING the existence of many specialized non-governmental organizations (NGOs) both at the domestic and international level focusing on providing humanitarian aid to both individuals and governments,

PRAISING the efforts of such NGOs for promoting international peace and strengthening the ties between nations,

OBSERVING that the World Assembly has not designated a single point of responsibility for coordinating the efforts of these NGOs,

REALIZING there are duplications of some relief efforts and that communication problems may create inefficiencies in the absence of a clear single point of responsibility,

The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING that all citizens of member nations should be protected by such a humanitarian group.

ESTABLISHES the International Coordinated Relief (ICRC), an organization whose sole duty is to co-ordinate of relief aid in all member nations;

MANDATES that all member nations contribute a small fee to support the work of the IRC, but;

ALLOWS the IRC to accept donations and grants from individual persons as a goodwill gesture.

DEFINES a major disaster as an event may threaten lives and livelihoods, such as:
- Natural disasters
- Terrorist attacks
- War

DEFINES the functions of the ICRC, whose role shall be to:
1) Provide international coordination of food, shelter, and humanitarian aid efforts in nations affected by a major disaster;
2) Provide training to volunteers in preparedness for such disasters;

MANDATES:
1) that the ICRC shall only intervene in the event that a member nation is incapable of providing relief independently, to those in need.
2) that the ICRC shall not promote conflict and war in any way.
2) that the ICRC shall not abuse their budget, in any way that may hamper the true purpose of the organization itself.

ENCOURAGES member nations and other charities of humanitarian aid to share recovery plans and aid each other through the halls of the ICRC.

Co-authored by Mikitivity
Omigodtheykilledkenny
09-04-2008, 17:01
OK, it says "IRC" in some places, "ICRC" in others; you omitted the essential word "Committee" from the org's name in the "ESTABLISHES" clause; and you mention NGOs in your preamble, but fail to mention them at all in your proposed operative section. Since the ICRC's entire purpose is to coordinate the efforts of existing NGOs in member nations on an international level, then the NGOs merit a mention somewhere in the operative clauses, for example, the "ESTABLISHES" clause and the second "DEFINES" clause.

If "Tia's Treaty" is your proposed title, it's not going to work.
Charlotte Ryberg
09-04-2008, 17:20
There has been a significant number of adjustments, and therefore Charlotte Ryberg is aware that it is now making it patchy, so we decided to tidy up:

International Coordinated Relief Committee (ICRC)

Category: Social Justice

Strength: Undecided

RECOGNIZING the existence of many specialized non-governmental organizations (NGOs) both at the domestic and international level focusing on providing humanitarian aid to both individuals and governments,

PRAISING the efforts of such NGOs for promoting international peace and strengthening the ties between nations,

OBSERVING that the World Assembly has not designated a single point of responsibility for coordinating the efforts of these NGOs,

REALIZING there are duplications of some relief efforts and that communication problems may create inefficiencies in the absence of a clear single point of responsibility,

The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING that all citizens of member nations should be protected by such a humanitarian group.

ESTABLISHES the International Coordinated Relief Committee (ICRC), an organization whose sole duty is to co-ordinate of relief aid of NGOs in all member nations;

MANDATES that all member nations contribute a small fee to support the work of the ICRC, but;

ALLOWS the ICRC to accept donations and grants from individual persons as a goodwill gesture.

DEFINES a major disaster as an event may threaten lives and livelihoods, such as Natural disasters, Terrorist attacks and War.

DEFINES the functions of the ICRC, whose role shall be to:
1) Provide international coordination of food, shelter, and humanitarian aid efforts in nations affected by a major disaster;
2) Co-ordinate the efforts of existing NGOs in member nations at an international level;
3) Provide training to volunteers of NGOs and the ICRC itself in preparedness for such disasters.

MANDATES:
1) that the ICRC shall only intervene in the event that a member nation or a NGO is incapable of providing sufficient relief independently, to those in need;
2) that the ICRC shall not promote conflict and war in any way;
3) that the ICRC shall not abuse their budget, in any way that may hamper the true purpose of the organization itself.

ENCOURAGES member nations and existing NGOs to share recovery plans and aid each other through the halls of the ICRC.

Co-authored by Mikitivity
Gobbannium
10-04-2008, 02:00
(OOC: the trouble with putting the resolution in a quote block is that I'm having to cut and paste this by hand. Bloody Jolt.)

We seem to be down to the spelling nitpick stage, so here goes:

DEFINES a major disaster as an event [which] may threaten lives and livelihoods, such as Natural disasters, Terrorist attacks and War.
Missing word [inserted]. Also this seems to have a bit of an attack of Gratuitous Capital Letters.

MANDATES:
1) that the ICRC shall only intervene in the event that a member nation or a NGO is incapable of providing sufficient relief independently, to those in need;
Is this really germane any more? The ICRC coordinates, rather than providing relief itself, so it doesn't really intervene in the way this implies.

--
Cerys Coch, Permanent Undersecretary
Mikitivity
10-04-2008, 03:49
Is this really germane any more? The ICRC coordinates, rather than providing relief itself, so it doesn't really intervene in the way this implies.

--
Cerys Coch, Permanent Undersecretary

I too do not like the word "intervene", but I think the intent of this clause is really to set a priority such that aid is first rendered to nations that have the greatest need. If that *is* the intent, I'd actually recommend the clause be:

INSTRUCTS the ICRC to:
1) prioritize the allocation of resources to specific situations or emergencies, based on the current inability of other governmental and non-governmental organizations to meet all of the needs of those situations;
2) not promote conflict and war in any way;
3) not abuse their budget, in any way that may hamper the true purpose of the organization itself.

I think this keeps within the principal of the proposal. I changed MANDATES to INSTRUCTS, because the ICRC here really feels more like an arm of the World Assembly, and I wanted to make it clear that the WA really can give instructions to its bodies. Mandates will work too, but it has a bit more a third-party / external feel, which I think isn't necessary.

OOC: New Orleans could have honestly benefited a bit from international aid, despite the very real wealth of the US. Or at least that is my opinion.
Mikitivity
10-04-2008, 03:54
OK, it says "IRC" in some places, "ICRC" in others; you omitted the essential word "Committee" from the org's name in the "ESTABLISHES" clause; and you mention NGOs in your preamble, but fail to mention them at all in your proposed operative section. Since the ICRC's entire purpose is to coordinate the efforts of existing NGOs in member nations on an international level, then the NGOs merit a mention somewhere in the operative clauses, for example, the "ESTABLISHES" clause and the second "DEFINES" clause.

If "Tia's Treaty" is your proposed title, it's not going to work.

I put the NGO reference in a rewrite of one of the operating clauses. And I agree, they should be mentioned again somewhere in the operating clauses.

I think the proposal name should either be the name of the committee / body -or- just "Humanitarian Relief Coordination" or something along those lines. I'm not gonna quibble much on the name issue right now, but there is a strategy to using a catchy name. The only better advertisement might be an ambassador with big eye lashes.
The Most Glorious Hack
10-04-2008, 06:26
(OOC: the trouble with putting the resolution in a quote block is that I'm having to cut and paste this by hand. Bloody Jolt.)That's why I always use [indent] instead of [quote].
Quintessence of Dust
10-04-2008, 15:33
I'm assuming post #38 is the latest draft? I've got a bit confused. On strength, I would go for 'Mild', because it's coordinating rather than providing aid. And to the sapient rights folks, is 'humanitarian' insulting?:p

IC:
This is now looking very promising, and we commend those involved. A few comments and concerns:

The 'small fee' looks like the sort of thing that could bring a wonderful proposal down in a ball of flames. Oh, the huge manatee. Given every single WA member nation and their uncle appears to be working on a funding resolution right now, it's hopeful one might make it to submission stage, and hence you could simply say 'the the ICRC will be funded out of normal WA resources'. I'm not suggesting you ignore the funding issue, but it might save you hassle to leave that to a separate Resolution.

I don't see the point of the definition of 'Major disaster' since it's so vague anyway.

Otherwise, looks good!

-- Samantha Benson
Congressional Liaison, Office of WA Affairs
Quintessence of Dust, Delegate of Wysteria
Charlotte Ryberg
10-04-2008, 15:40
All considered and accepted. The strength of the proposal has been drafted.

International Coordinated Relief Committee (ICRC)

Category: Social Justice

Strength: Mild

RECOGNIZING the existence of many specialized non-governmental organizations (abbreviated as NGOs) both at domestic and international level focusing on providing humanitarian aid to both individuals and governments,

PRAISING the efforts of such NGOs for promoting international peace and strengthening the ties between nations,

OBSERVING that the World Assembly has not designated a single point of responsibility for coordinating the efforts of these NGOs,

REALIZING there are duplications of some relief efforts and that communication problems may create inefficiencies in the absence of a clear single point of responsibility,

The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING that all citizens of member nations should be protected by such a humanitarian group.

ESTABLISHES the International Coordinated Relief Committee (ICRC), an organization whose sole duty is to co-ordinate of relief aid of NGOs in all member nations;

MANDATES that all member nations contribute a small fee to support the work of the ICRC, but;

ALLOWS the ICRC to accept donations and grants from individual persons as a goodwill gesture.

DEFINES a major disaster as an event which may threaten lives and livelihoods, such as Natural disasters, Terrorist attacks and War.

DEFINES the functions of the ICRC, whose role shall be to:
1) Provide international coordination of food, shelter, and humanitarian aid efforts in nations affected by a major disaster;
2) Co-ordinate the efforts of existing NGOs in member nations at an international level;
3) Provide training to volunteers of NGOs and the ICRC itself in preparedness for such disasters.

INSTRUCTS the ICRC to:
1) manage and prioritize the allocation of resources to specific situations or emergencies, based on the current inability of other governmental and NGOs to meet all of the needs of those situations;
2) not promote conflict or war in any way;
3) not abuse their budget, in any way that may hamper the true purpose of the organization itself.

ENCOURAGES member nations and existing NGOs to share recovery plans and aid each other through the halls of the ICRC.

Co-authored by Mikitivity
Frisbeeteria
10-04-2008, 16:02
"This is a great idea" does not equal "Strength: Strong".

Fact is, from a Social Justice perspective, this will require a very minor transfer payment to keep this organization going. Social Justice: Strong would be mandated for providing extensive social programs for the protection of large portions of the population. The ICRC is simply filling in the gaps in the event of major disaster beyond the abilities of the nation's normal social net.

I'd classify this as Mild at best.
Charlotte Ryberg
10-04-2008, 18:23
Modified: please see post #44 of this thread.
Mikitivity
11-04-2008, 04:00
Modified: please see post #44 of this thread.

Thanks! Reposting major revisions like that makes it easy to read & follow what is happening.

I give this effort two thumbs up! We could play around with it more, but at this point I've extremely pleased with this proposal and honestly hope it achieves quorum and is adopted.
Charlotte Ryberg
11-04-2008, 15:06
One little problem, not serious at all: the title is too long, in excess of thirty characters, so I have decided to give it a title of 'The ICRC'. Okay?
Mikitivity
11-04-2008, 15:39
One little problem, not serious at all: the title is too long, in excess of thirty characters, so I have decided to give it a title of 'The ICRC'. Okay?

Try that on its first pass through the proposal queue, but if it doesn't seem to work, then I would like to suggest "Coordinating Relief Aid". Should take 23 character spaces and fit. :)
Charlotte Ryberg
11-04-2008, 15:49
It worked! And you have been duly credited for your ideas.

Moderator Request: Title changed proposed again, please see the title of post #1 for the name.

I will therefore submit my resolution and persuade fellow delegates.

Dear Esteemed delegate

With the re-launch of the UN as the World Assembly due to the Cease and Desist Order (let's stick to the facts), all pages of International law have been abolished.

Therefore, the ICRO we used to have has been rendered defunct, and therefore I am determined to ensure continuity in the co-ordination of aid worldwide to people in need. Therefore I have proposed the International Coordinated Relief Committee (ICRC) as a successor to the ICRO.

OOC, Besides, I do not mean the real-life ICRC. That's why Wikipedia had Disambiguation pages in the first place.

With these events in mind I would beg you to give your approval to the proposal, ‘Coordinating Relief Aid’, which will lay the foundations for the restoration of the international aid co-ordination organization which we may rely on in future.

I hope you will give these your full consideration. Thank you.

Yours faithfully

Ms. Charlotte Ryberg,
of Charlotte Ryberg.
Frisbeeteria
11-04-2008, 17:32
Moderator Request: Title changed proposed again, please see the title of post #1 for the name.

[OOC] Done.

[IC] Make up yer damn mind, wouldya?
Charlotte Ryberg
11-04-2008, 20:31
[OOC] Done.

[IC] Make up yer damn mind, wouldya?

[OOC] Well, at least it's better than starting a new topic...

You may now consider your opinions to my new proposal. Thanks to everyone so far who have come up with ideas and made quite interesting suggestions.
Quintessence of Dust
11-04-2008, 23:52
Well, I've approved it, but I was disappointed you didn't address the comment about the fee.
Charlotte Ryberg
12-04-2008, 08:30
Thanks for approving at least. Quintessence of Dust, what would you like to see if it needs to be re-assessed in terms of the fee?
Quintessence of Dust
12-04-2008, 19:37
The 'small fee' looks like the sort of thing that could bring a wonderful proposal down in a ball of flames. Oh, the huge manatee. Given every single WA member nation and their uncle appears to be working on a funding resolution right now, it's hopeful one might make it to submission stage, and hence you could simply say 'the the ICRC will be funded out of normal WA resources'. I'm not suggesting you ignore the funding issue, but it might save you hassle to leave that to a separate Resolution.
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Charlotte Ryberg
13-04-2008, 14:15
Yes, actually, we can dig some of the money from the WA's coffers, but some are still complaining about the ICRC name.

Coordinating Relief Aid
Revision 2

A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Charlotte Ryberg

Description: RECOGNIZING the existence of many specialized non-governmental organizations (abbreviated as NGOs) both at domestic and international level focusing on providing humanitarian aid to both individuals and governments,

PRAISING the efforts of such NGOs for promoting international peace and strengthening the ties between nations,

OBSERVING that the World Assembly has not designated a single point of responsibility for coordinating the efforts of these NGOs,

REALIZING there are duplications of some relief efforts and that communication problems may create inefficiencies in the absence of a clear single point of responsibility,

The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING that all citizens of member nations should be protected by such a humanitarian group.

ESTABLISHES the International Coordinated Relief Committee (ICRC), an organization whose sole duty is to co-ordinate of relief aid of NGOs in all member nations;

MANDATES that the ICRC shall be funded from the resources of the World Assembly;

all member nations contribute a small fee to support the work of the ICRC, but;

ALLOWS the ICRC to accept donations and grants from individual persons as a goodwill gesture.

DEFINES a major disaster as an event which may threaten lives and livelihoods, such as Natural disasters, Terrorist attacks and War.

DEFINES the functions of the ICRC, whose role shall be to:
1) Provide international coordination of food, shelter, and humanitarian aid efforts in nations affected by a major disaster;
2) Co-ordinate the efforts of existing NGOs in member nations at an international level;
3) Provide training to volunteers of NGOs and the ICRC itself in preparedness for such disasters.

INSTRUCTS the ICRC to:
1) manage and prioritize the allocation of resources to specific situations or emergencies, based on the current inability of other governmental and NGOs to meet all of the needs of those situations;
2) not promote conflict or war in any way;
3) not abuse their budget, in any way that may hamper the true purpose of the organization itself.

ENCOURAGES member nations and existing NGOs to share recovery plans and aid each other through the halls of the ICRC.

Co-authored by Mikitivity.
Mikitivity
13-04-2008, 17:08
Yes, actually, we can dig some of the money from the WA's coffers, but some are still complaining about the ICRC name.

If the mods are OK with the name and you like it, stick to it. :)
Nueva Terra
13-04-2008, 18:56
I wholehartedly of this proposal, and think that it desires a shot at being resolved.
Gobbannium
14-04-2008, 02:50
A partially deleted clause seems to have fallen loose in the middle of the current draft.

--
Cerys Coch, Permanent Undersecretary
Mikitivity
14-04-2008, 02:58
A partially deleted clause seems to have fallen loose in the middle of the current draft.

--
Cerys Coch, Permanent Undersecretary

I think it (as it reads) plugs into the MANDATES clause. I'm just assuming the word "and" is missing.

MANDATES that the ICRC shall be funded from the resources of the World Assembly;

all member nations contribute a small fee to support the work of the ICRC, but;

That said, I'd like the "all member nations ..." part to be removed per QoD's request. Mikitivity will still support this, fee or not.
Charlotte Ryberg
15-04-2008, 15:18
Yes, one of the clauses were left behind in the deletion, but it will be dealt with now. Since the proposal has not reached quorum yet, a new adjustment will be made:

The Individual donations are still permitted under this resolution, but now the ICRC will be funded by normal resources. It will remain, that the ICRC must still not abuse the budget, ever. For your convenience, post #1 will be updated now.

Coordinating Relief Aid
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Charlotte Ryberg

Description: RECOGNIZING the existence of many specialized non-governmental organizations (abbreviated as NGOs) both at domestic and international level focusing on providing humanitarian aid to both individuals and governments,

PRAISING the efforts of such NGOs for promoting international peace and strengthening the ties between nations,

OBSERVING that the World Assembly has not designated a single point of responsibility for coordinating the efforts of these NGOs,

REALIZING there are duplications of some relief efforts and that communication problems may create inefficiencies in the absence of a clear single point of responsibility,

The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING that all citizens of member nations should be protected by such a humanitarian group.

ESTABLISHES the International Coordinated Relief Committee (ICRC), an organization whose sole duty is to co-ordinate of relief aid of NGOs in all member nations;

MANDATES that the ICRC shall be funded from the resources of the World Assembly, and;

PERMITS the ICRC to accept donations and grants from individual persons as a goodwill gesture.

DEFINES a major disaster as an event which may threaten lives and livelihoods, such as Natural disasters, Terrorist attacks and War.

DEFINES the functions of the ICRC, whose role shall be to:
1) Provide international coordination of food, shelter, and humanitarian aid efforts in nations affected by a major disaster;
2) Co-ordinate the efforts of existing NGOs in member nations at an international level;
3) Provide training to volunteers of NGOs and the ICRC itself in preparedness for such disasters.

INSTRUCTS the ICRC to:
1) manage and prioritize the allocation of resources to specific situations or emergencies, based on the current inability of other governmental and NGOs to meet all of the needs of those situations;
2) not promote conflict or war in any way;
3) not abuse their budget, in any way that may hamper the true purpose of the organization itself.

ENCOURAGES member nations and existing NGOs to share recovery plans and aid each other through the halls of the ICRC.

Co-authored by Mikitivity.

OOC: When superseding the old post #61 I expected that it would come up as #62. I didn't realise it so the reason 'Superseded by post #62.' should actually be 'Superseded by new revision'.

Now, I am doing a double-double check with the moderator to ensure this passes the rules test before posting a second attempt.
Charlotte Ryberg
18-04-2008, 15:19
The first attempt at submitting this resolution failed due to poor campaigning. However, around 66 approvals indicate that this proposal will be given a second chance by the council.

A second attempt is being seriously considered as long as the moderators give the final okay.

As with changes: Individual donations are still permitted under this resolution, but member nations will no longer have to pay a small fee just for the ICRC. therefore, the ICRC will now be funded by normal WA resources as well as charitable donations. It will remain, that the ICRC be trusted not to abuse the budget whatsoever. For your convenience, post #1 will be updated if changes are made.

Coordinating Relief Aid
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Charlotte Ryberg

Description: RECOGNIZING the existence of many specialized non-governmental organizations (abbreviated as NGOs), both at domestic and international level, focusing on providing humanitarian aid to both individuals and governments;

APPLAUDING the efforts of such NGOs for promoting international peace and strengthening the ties between nations;

OBSERVING that the World Assembly has not designated a single point of responsibility for coordinating the efforts of such NGOs;

REALIZING there are duplications of some relief efforts, and that communication problems may create inefficiencies in absence of a clear single point of responsibility;

The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING that all citizens of member nations should be protected by such a humanitarian group.

1. ESTABLISHES the International Coordinated Relief Committee (ICRC), an organization whose sole duty is to co-ordinate of relief aid of NGOs in all member nations;

2. MANDATES that the ICRC shall be funded from the resources of the World Assembly, but;

3. PERMITS the ICRC to accept donations and grants from individual persons as a goodwill gesture;

4.1. DEFINES a major disaster as an event which may threaten lives and livelihoods, such as natural disasters, terrorist attacks and war;

4.2. DEFINES the functions of the ICRC, whose role shall be to:
a) Provide international coordination of food, shelter, and humanitarian aid efforts in nations affected by a major disaster;
b) Co-ordinate the efforts of existing NGOs in member nations at an international level;
c) Provide training to volunteers of NGOs and the ICRC itself in preparedness for such disasters.

5. INSTRUCTS the ICRC to:
a) manage and prioritize the allocation of resources to specific situations or emergencies, based on the current inability of other governmental and NGOs to meet all of the needs of those situations;
b) not promote conflict or war in any way;
c) not abuse their budget, in any way that may hamper the true purpose of the organization itself.

ENCOURAGES member nations and existing NGOs to share recovery plans and aid each other through the halls of the ICRC.

Co-authored by Mikitivity.

OOC:

The use of the ancronym ICRC will not necesarily indicate a reference to
the Real-life red Cross Organization. This is because, according to an independent research on Google.com search engine, the acronym ICRC has many uses:

The ICRC may be a acronym of:

International Committee of the Red Cross
International Conference of Reformed Churches
International Certification and Reciprocity Consortium
Integrated Concepts and Research Corporation
Independent Competition and Regulatory Commission, a government organization in Australia
Intercommunity Cable Regulatory Commission

These appeared on the first page of the search result, on google.com only.

Therefore, the ICRC acronym is okay for the job.
Mikitivity
18-04-2008, 15:45
I still really like it, and hope it gets submitted soon. This proposal combined with the Humantarian Transport should generate interesting foreign aid discussions and likely help WA Delegate endorsements for both proposals.

I think it would be appropriate for you to send telegrams to all the Delegates who have not yet endorsed your proposal but who have endorsed mine to point out that there are some common themes between the two ideas. :)
Flibbleites
18-04-2008, 16:47
What's stopping you from using your original thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=553573)?
The Most Glorious Hack
19-04-2008, 06:29
What's stopping you from using your original thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=553573)?Nothing. Merged.
Charlotte Ryberg
23-04-2008, 16:01
Nothing. Merged.

Perhaps a new thread if this goes into big-time voting stage...

The second attempt has been submitted for debate. The ICRC will be funded by the Un and sriously no one will have to pay compulsory fees anymore. The Humantarian Transport proposal is not mentioned due to the house of cards rule. Please support it. Thank you.
Mikitivity
24-04-2008, 06:23
Perhaps a new thread if this goes into big-time voting stage...

The second attempt has been submitted for debate. The ICRC will be funded by the Un and sriously no one will have to pay compulsory fees anymore. The Humantarian Transport proposal is not mentioned due to the house of cards rule. Please support it. Thank you.

Oh, I agree. Humanitarian Transport should *not* be mentioned. :) They will obviously complement each other, but we'll remind the international community of that (should they not see the parallels ... and most nations will understand).

As far as funding, I believe you mean the World Assembly. ;)

In the past moderators have allowed nations to create new threads for debates of resolutions to separate them from proposal discussion threads. I suspect the reason your threads were merged, is the discussions were chronologically close and the topics fairly linked.
The Kosovo
24-04-2008, 18:29
Honourable Delegate,

The Ablanian Republic of The Kosovo is pleased with the idea, whereas a humanitarian agency is desperately needed for the development of our future as an independent nation. It is something the government shall would vote for if it reached the voting floor.

Regards,

Skender Gjon Petrovic
Foreign Affairs Minister
Charlotte Ryberg
25-04-2008, 09:29
UN Delegates, this is going far better than our last attempt.

Reference: www.nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=Relief%20Aid

We now have 88 approvals so far, by Black Empire, Minyos, Shang Dang, The Derrak Quadrant, Quintessence of Dust, ka-Spel, Daehanguk, Soldnerism, Iron Felix, Cordova I, Uzbezkitan, Ducky McDuck Duck, Drugged Monkeys, Intelligenstan, Bataaf, The Artic Republics, New Hamilton, TamDerJust, Sensual delights, The Crazy King, Cowgirls United, Kohlenstoff, West Stockport, Aatesio, Mathenea, The Atreidond Islands, Misplaced States, Eiga-Baka, Scififanaticz, Petrstein, Nurdia, Anarchy works, Axelton, Gediz, Ventei, Going Postal, Colbertrica, Finnish Pride, WZ Forums, Mengjiang, Slices Right, Decorus Congregatio, Mercantilion, Kungpaomao, Letonija, Lucanian Shires, Loxx, Gallantaria, The Digital Network, Graalium, Worldia555, Koehlertopia, Alzonia, Immortalland, Anglo-Arrius, Xele, Technoviking, Lord Sumguy, Chickenstate, Catawaba, Bourgenstein, Colonial Timocria, Sancte Michael, Local folk, Scythina, Marari, Jey, Biain the First, Atherha, Judsland, Stephanephpolis, Blahminia, Kotire, Rotovia-, lost highlanders, Griffenfeld, Wencee, Alpacadom, QWERTY9223, Rabah, Orioni 2, Servit, Scott Tree, Ymmij Gnest, 12 Colonies of Kobol, Bibliotecia, and Glenlogan. Thank you to you all.

I even approved it in confidence that the new ICRC, a new milestone in the making in the history of the WA, will deliver its promise. I know this is possible because there are disaster victims that desperately need help. I know we can do it and I know it can succeed. I know I am not a Liberal idiotcracy: this is a proposal that can make one major stage of recovery faster.

Come on everyone, I humbly request just 19 more approvals for this proposal as I speak. Nothing is impossible...

- Charlotte Ryberg
Nokvok
25-04-2008, 20:38
The only reason I saw for not approving this proposal was point 3.

Those private donations. How will they be handled?
Will they be used to pay the paperwork? Because Paperwork is what this committee's line of work is.
Or will the donations be divided among the members NGOs, and if yes, in which way?

I would like some elaborations on this point.
Frisbeeteria
25-04-2008, 22:01
Those private donations. How will they be handled?
Will they be used to pay the paperwork? Because Paperwork is what this committee's line of work is.
Or will the donations be divided among the members NGOs, and if yes, in which way?

I would like some elaborations on this point.

My dear representative of Nokvok, one of the charming things about NationStates is that you don't have to wade through that level of detail. Ambassadors make high-level decisions, and pass them to the bureaucrats to invisibly implement. We don't know how they do it, only that it gets done.

I'm assuming you're a former bureaucrat raised up to ambassadorial level. Once you've been here for a while, you'll learn to trust the Gnomes and bureaucrats to do the trivial stuff while we maintain the diplomatic reputations our nations are famous for. Now g'wan back to your seat. Scat!
Nokvok
26-04-2008, 07:19
I'm just saying that I would like it assured that the private donations are used appropriately.

Private donations are an important factor.
What if there are two disasters, one in a poor country, one in a rich one. Won't the committee be tempted to aid the richer country first, assuming (rightfully) that the richer country's thankful population will give more donations?

I am concerned about the fairness of the institution, and conflicts of interest.

In my opinion the Donation part needs clarification or needs to be removed.
Charlotte Ryberg
26-04-2008, 09:57
It will be, and will be enforced in all ways. Don't be afraid to assume that all countries have an equal chance of aid. Clause 3 is there so that the general public in all countries will be allowed to be generous and give money.

Cheers!
Charlotte Ryberg
26-04-2008, 16:04
That's it, we've done it! our proposal has reached quorum!

As of 16:03:

Approvals: 109 (Black Empire, Minyos, Shang Dang, The Derrak Quadrant, Quintessence of Dust, ka-Spel, Daehanguk, Soldnerism, Iron Felix, Cordova I, Uzbezkitan, Ducky McDuck Duck, Drugged Monkeys, Intelligenstan, Bataaf, The Artic Republics, New Hamilton, TamDerJust, Sensual delights, The Crazy King, Cowgirls United, Kohlenstoff, West Stockport, Aatesio, Mathenea, The Atreidond Islands, Misplaced States, Eiga-Baka, Petrstein, Nurdia, Anarchy works, Axelton, Gediz, Ventei, Going Postal, Colbertrica, Finnish Pride, WZ Forums, Mengjiang, Slices Right, Decorus Congregatio, Mercantilion, Kungpaomao, Letonija, Lucanian Shires, Loxx, Gallantaria, The Digital Network, Graalium, Worldia555, Alzonia, Immortalland, Anglo-Arrius, Xele, Technoviking, Lord Sumguy, Chickenstate, Catawaba, Bourgenstein, Colonial Timocria, Sancte Michael, Local folk, Scythina, Marari, Jey, Biain the First, Atherha, Judsland, Stephanephpolis, Blahminia, Kotire, Rotovia-, lost highlanders, Griffenfeld, Wencee, Alpacadom, Charlotte Ryberg, QWERTY9223, Orioni 2, Servit, Scott Tree, Ymmij Gnest, 12 Colonies of Kobol, Bibliotecia, Glenlogan, RZGRZ, Exaequo, Mivvin, Euphonimia, Hadristan, Freebistan, Athenae Magnus, Mikhals Empire, Amoneyy, Gilliganstan, The rabid platypuses, Vintage Blue, Nymphiadora, Saudi burmia, Badass-Land, Engul, Subistratica, Nazakya, Candelaria And Marquez, Slabeen, Calleephoneya, Death Notes, Scififanaticz, Pakstania)
St Edmund
26-04-2008, 16:17
That's it, we've done it! our proposal has reached quorum!

Congratulations!