NationStates Jolt Archive


Drug Laws?

Regular squirrels
17-04-2008, 04:08
I say we ban Cocaine, Heroin, methamphedamines, and LSD.


(I know, however, that any resolution I would try to propse would be shot down because I forgot to cross a T)

Please, could someone right a draft for this...or say this is stupid.
Imota
17-04-2008, 04:21
I have always personally felt that recreational drug use should be regulated by each individual nation. Therefore, I have always been highly skeptical of any law that seeks to limit drug use, however well intentioned. Personally, I agree with banning the four drugs you mentioned, and that's how I often pretend my nation works (and it affects how I vote when the relevant issues come up). That said, I would still vote against this proposal because I feel it runs counter to national sovereignity.
The Mafia Lords
17-04-2008, 16:35
NO NO NO
Freedom for the common man to mess with his body!
Subistratica
17-04-2008, 16:53
NO NO NO
Freedom for the common man to mess with his body!

And for, in his messing, to mess with the bodies of others as well?

However, I'm inclined to agree with Imota; such issues should be left to individual nations to deal with.

Have a pleasant day.
-October Siles-Vadice
axmanland
17-04-2008, 16:56
absolutely foolish short sighted plan... my country has trade agreements to process raw opium into morphine and diamorphine how dare you or anyone else attempt to chain our minds down to the level of the mundane
Subistratica
17-04-2008, 17:01
absolutely foolish short sighted plan... my country has trade agreements to process raw opium into morphine and diamorphine how dare you or anyone else attempt to chain our minds down to the level of the mundane

There's no need to be so harsh. It is a pretty popular idea, but unfortunately not one I feel is suited for the WA.

And I'm curious as to what you mean by "the level of the mundane".

Have a pleasant day.
-October Siles-Vadice
Charlotte Ryberg
17-04-2008, 17:02
I wouldn't support a ban on drugs, but restricting any illegal drug trade would be a good idea. And pleaseee avoid words like Cocaine, Heroin, methamphedamines, and LSD, because they are references to real world affairs, which is against guidelines.

And generally, before submitting proposals, be sure to ask a moderator like Frisbeeteria to do a final check on your proposal before submitting it. I doing that now with my proposal 'Coordinating Relief Aid'. Like what The Most Glorious Hack said, "Get help before you get in trouble".
Subistratica
17-04-2008, 17:06
I wouldn't support a ban on drugs, but restricting any illegal drug trade would be a good idea. And pleaseee avoid words like Cocaine, Heroin, methamphedamines, and LSD, because they are references to real world affairs, which is against guidelines.

And generally, before submitting proposals, be sure to ask a moderator like Frisbeeteria to do a final check on your proposal before submitting it. I doing that now with my proposal 'Coordinating Relief Aid'. Like what The Most Glorious Hack said, "Get help before you get in trouble".

[OOC:I think refering to specific drugs is okay... that is, I don't think they fall under RL references. But I could be wrong.

And I think a trade-restriction resolution might be more doable.]
axmanland
17-04-2008, 17:25
[OOC: ive rp'd my high king as the ex leader of a massive drugs cartell who seized power during political instability and i get quite into it while in charicter sorry if it came across as rude lol oh and he has a rampant non specific dug habit and strong psychotic views on the "altered state world" and the "mundane world" like i said i get quite into roleplay]
Regular squirrels
17-04-2008, 22:57
absolutely foolish short sighted plan... my country has trade agreements to process raw opium into morphine and diamorphine how dare you or anyone else attempt to chain our minds down to the level of the mundane

Did I mention morphine? (but I think I just forgot it...maybe I'll add it)

I wouldn't support a ban on drugs, (A)but restricting any illegal drug trade would be a good idea. (B) And pleaseee avoid words like Cocaine, Heroin, methamphedamines, and LSD, because they are references to real world affairs, which is against guidelines.

(C) And generally, before submitting proposals, be sure to ask a moderator like Frisbeeteria to do a final check on your proposal before submitting it. I doing that now with my proposal 'Coordinating Relief Aid'. Like what The Most Glorious Hack said, "Get help before you get in trouble".

A: Okay trade restrictions on the drugs...

B: . . . We make such refrences in proposals all the time...it's citing nations and organizations we steer clear of...

C: How do we get their attention?
Subistratica
17-04-2008, 23:38
Getting their attention is easy... come up with a draft, post it as "DRAFT: -Name-", and eventually they'll come along and check it out.
Oh, and you could also try sending them a telegram pointing them to your draft if they don't say anything after a day or so. But I think you should try to come up with a draft first... or, if you can't [either because, like me, political writing isn't your thing, or because you don't have enough endorsements to make proposals], ask someone else to do it for you.
Frisbeeteria
17-04-2008, 23:47
[OOC:I think refering to specific drugs is okay... that is, I don't think they fall under RL references. But I could be wrong.]

You're correct. Advil™, Viagra™, or Panadol™ would be real world references. Heroin, marijuana, LSD and cocaine would not be, as they refer to the compounds not the brand names.

However, a drug law limiting itself to specific named drugs (or even worse, to "Class A" drugs - an undefined term in NS) is going to be too limited to be effective. You need to find a generic and measurable way to describe the effects you wish to ban if you really want it to work.*
Quintessence of Dust
18-04-2008, 02:12
Do you not perhaps think drug laws is a policy area where crossing T's is quite important? (Perhaps starting with the second 't' in 'methamphetamine'.)

I agree that a good first step would be to take on the international drugs trade. Before we start any vast criminal empires, let's do our best to close one or two of the existing ones down. There's an interesting, old, draft here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=488090). DON'T plagiarise it, but it's worth taking a look at as a lot of drafting work went into it.

-- Samantha Benson
Congressional Liaison, Office of UN Affairs
Quintessence of Dust, Delegate of Wysteria
Regular squirrels
18-04-2008, 03:59
"We the people of the WA hereby establish that drugs that affect the mind so much that the senses sense things that aren't there are prohibited."


My attempt at a proposal.

*Waits for it too be ripped apart*