NationStates Jolt Archive

Hello im am JK Rowling 3 and i don't understand why it must be two endorcements to post a proposal. it undermines the small regions with only two or one WA member. This makes it difficult to have a bigger say in the WA. I am proposing (on the forum) that ANY MEMBER OF THE WA SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROPOSE an issue.
thank you

I disagree. Smaller regions have a tremendous say in the World Assembly. Their Delegates may endorse proposals. As a member of a mid-sized (~20 WA members) region, it is harder for me to ask my Delegate to endorse every single proposal that I like.

The trade-off is that:

Smaller Regions are more likely to have a Delegate that represents their views both in endorsing proposals and voting on resolutions. Larger Regions have Delegates that have to balance the views of a more diverse group.

Larger Regions have more WA members, so it is easier to collect endorsements to submit proposals and their Delegates effectively have more influence on the final outcome of resolutions.

My advice is look for a mid-sized region. You will have an easier time at getting endorsed by fellow players, and your Delegate will still respond to your own opinions. :)

Thank you for response and i honor you opinon but i manage a small region of 6 nations only 2 of which are WA members (myself include therefore unless more come which has not happened then neither of us can propose

Thank you for response and i honor you opinon but i manage a small region of 6 nations only 2 of which are WA members (myself include therefore unless more come which has not happened then neither of us can propose

I understand your dilemma. Am I correct in assuming you are a Delegate? If so, please understand that you have a power (and responsibility) that the vast majority of us do not have ... you have the ability to endorse proposals. I would like that ability as well, and could easily get it if I moved to a region with 1 single friend who was in the WA and asked him to endorse me.

One of the easiest to see trade-offs really is the ability to propose resolutions versus the ability to set the agenda of the WA by controlling which proposals reach quorum. :)


Changing the subject slightly, have you considered finding another small region and proposing a merger? You could hold monthly elections, and share the Delegate position.

An alternative is to join a large region for a week, collect 2 endorsements, submit your proposal, and then reform your region. Once a proposal is submitted, you can actually loose your WA membership and it will continue without. :)

It has two advantages:
- it means it takes that bit longer to submit a proposal: you might need to a be a game player for 2 days, not just 1, before you have the requisite number, and might spend that time reading the rules;
- it makes it a bit harder to submit a proposal, requiring extra effort.

It has one disadvantage:
- players who want to be Hermits, or attached to a small region, have trouble.

You can skip to another region who doesn't mind endorsing you, for the duration of the submission.

Personally, I consider the first two advantages pretty minimal and the latter one more significant, particularly for delegates of small regions, and so I probably agree with you that it's a bit unfair, but I doubt it's the sort of thing that will be changed.

actually i am not a delegates because my other nation will not endorse me and i wont endorse him and since me and him are the only two WA members neither of us are delegates
and since there is one other WA member i cannot get 2 endorcements

Quintessence of Dust any ideas / opinions

We require players to have 500 million population to submit issues, but you can get two endorsements in one of the Pacifics in about an hour. That makes it easy enough that we see no reason to change it.

It ain't broke. We aren't going to fix it.

Well, I think the only problem is if you cannot leave your region to submit a proposal. If you're not a delegate, then there's no reason not to skip out to a region where you can pick up 2 endorsements, submit, and return.

All WA members should have a say. You never know, there may be hidden gems among the nations with a sole endorsement. At least 1 is what I consider.

thank you finally somebody understands my dilema and understands that right now more WA member should have a bigger say then a yes or no to a resolution already submitted they should be able to adress problems

JKR, a region merger is possible. Just message other small regions you like, agree on a new region for all of you, set up a forum with elections for the delegate, and you've got a succesful region coming your way.

JKR, a region merger is possible. Just message other small regions you like, agree on a new region for all of you, set up a forum with elections for the delegate, and you've got a succesful region coming your way.

I am going to strongly second this!

JKR, is there any reason you want to stay in your current region?

yes because me and my best friend started it so that there could be a region for nations to relax and not have like 20 nations badgering them

yes because me and my best friend started it so that there could be a region for nations to relax and not have like 20 nations badgering them

Fair enough, but please understand that the point of the United Nations / World Assembly is specifically to encourage that exact same type of "badgering" (I call it interaction), but instead of being limited to 20 nations, it amounts to hundreds.

Realistically proposals aren't going to get into the resolution queue / World Assembly floor without the support of other nations -- and that comes from interactions.