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Given that the passage of "The World Assembly" is likely and the body of former UN Law, all 244 resolutions, will be archived and set aside, it is probably in the best interest to capitalize on this opportunity and immediatly pass legislation deserving of being the new "first resolution" on the books.

Since there has been expressed a feeling of taking old resolutions and passing them again in the World Assembly, in the case of many of the very well-written ones and favorites of the General Assembly, it strikes me that we ought to have an agenda laid out for the resolutions we wish to re-add to the new World Assembly list.

Therefore, I suggest that we start a working list of old UN-resolutions to take, tweak if necessary (and approved) and then submit for a vote. This is a momentous opportunity to start off the organization on the right foot, but creating a corpus of well-written, clear, and consistent resolutions for the future of the game.

first on the list should be, of course, Fris' excellent "Rights and Duties of WA States." What's next?

#1 Rights and Duties of WA States
#2 The Universal Bill of Rights
#3 Universal Freedom of Choice
#4 World Assembly Taxation Ban
#5(Wolfish)WA Convention on POW
#6 (Eon) WA Convention on Genocide
#7 Diplomatic Immunity
#8 WA Structure Convention
#9
#10

Of course, if TWA fails (and I'm hoping it does) and we keep the old resolutions, this is moot.

I think this is a very good idea Snefaldia. A little bit of organization can go a long way!

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I had an "NSUN Headquarters" resolution in the queue either last week or the week before, which I actually intended as a semi-serious proposal. And given that "Continuity of Government" is effectively neutralized, we could combine the two into a super-proposal for the organization of the WA.

While we should deal with organizational matters, such as Rights and Duties, before proceeding with more mundane business, I will note that I have posted a redraft of The Child Protection Act (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13577601), and suggest that it be considered at some point following the organization of this World Assembly. Provided, of course, that the resolution currently at vote is adopted.

Later today, when my staff figures out where most of their supplies are, I will attempt to provide a record of UN resolutions that are important to the structure of the organization.

[Lord] Michael Evif
Goobergunchian UN Ambassador

Actually, I believe the plan would be to put "The World Assembly" as, essentially, WAR#0, not WAR#1 (heh... war...). Because you just know some joker would try to Repeal it...

I suggest tabbing up the reasonably unobjectionable ones first, as some of the good ones might still be contentious and probably come up for close votes...though it might be hard to figure out which ones are which.

If The World Assembly passes, I'm pretty sure it will be the last old resolution, not the first new one. This thread is an excellent idea, though.

I'd go with following next, using the the old ones as baseline, and the original authors where still active:


#26, The Universal Bill of Rights, adjusted to be reflect Sentient Beings, not just Human Beings
#53, Universal Freedom of Choice with a bit of rework
#31, Wolfish Convention on POW, unbranded but still by Wolfish
#83, The Eon Convention on Genocide, minus the damn Pretenama Panel
#127, Diplomatic Immunity needs to be there


There's a lot of other good stuff, but those are the basics as I see them

I would be very happy to resubmit my 2 resolutions from the old UN which are forever remembered in my siggy below. Particularly the UNCoESB as it would be a base to stop the passing of the Save the (insert fluffy animal here) proposals.

The Donor one i could live with loosing....... (oh the irony) :P

#26 there may have difficulties ... I've seen I-don't-know-how-many resolutions try and fail to come up with a foolproof definition of sentience.

"Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool", as they say.

That raises the question, though - #26 doesn't actually address what qualifies as "human", and therefore for human rights - do we need to define sentience?

I would like to re-submit UN Resolution #4 UN Taxation Ban, i dunno if it really needs anything added on

All these good proposals, what the heck am I going to repeal?

Fight the Axis of Evil redraft?
Max Barry Day?
HIPPOS ARE BIG?

I like Fris' list so far.

Also would like to nominate Prohibition of WA Military.

I have updated the list with given suggestions, retaining the Taxation Ban as #4. Given the time it takes to pass resolutions, I set the list at 10 resolutions for now. In my opinion, there's no use getting so far ahead of ourselves- even ten resolutions would take several months to pass. Given that we cannot use the moniker "UN" or put the names of nations (as was common in the early days) I adjusted the titles only slighty, for cosmetic purposes.

Further suggestsions are greatly welcome.

Edit: Kenny, I place your "superproposal" in there are a placeholder under "WA Structure Convention."

#26 there may have difficulties ... I've seen I-don't-know-how-many resolutions try and fail to come up with a foolproof definition of sentience.

"Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool", as they say.

That raises the question, though - #26 doesn't actually address what qualifies as "human", and therefore for human rights - do we need to define sentience?

have you looked at my attempt?

It would be better to reformat the original with a cursory, slightly vague definition of sapience. I have a thread on the subject started.

Concerning branding, would it be out of the question to put something like "Originally submitted by <....>" at the end?

Actually, I believe the plan would be to put "The World Assembly" as, essentially, WAR#0, not WAR#1 (heh... war...). Because you just know some joker would try to Repeal it...*hides pencil and paper*
No I wouldn't.

Also would like to nominate Prohibition of WA Military.

Actually, that's currently being worked into Fris's redraft of Rights and Duties.

I would like to re-submit UN Resolution #4 UN Taxation Ban, i dunno if it really needs anything added on

I cannot begin to explain how much I hate this idea. That damn resolution, as written, cause more work for the UN mods than any ten other resolutions combined. Mind you, I'm not totally against the idea, just the way it was phrased.

Since we're currently considering banning plagiarism by anyone other than the original author, and given that Nassland's last login was 1886 days ago, I'm highly inclined to delete any cut-and-paste reentry of that horrible resolution. If you want to include that in your list, better have a solid rewrite in hand before you start.

Considering the popularity of the concept, and the horrible prose of the original, I did not have it in mind to make a complete resubmission. Reqording of the text would be more appropriate. Perhaps in the context of a larger WA Funding Act? Let's poke Karmi.

Slavery should be there, if not already mentioned.

I cannot begin to explain how much I hate this idea. That damn resolution, as written, cause more work for the UN mods than any ten other resolutions combined. Mind you, I'm not totally against the idea, just the way it was phrased.

Since we're currently considering banning plagiarism by anyone other than the original author, and given that Nassland's last login was 1886 days ago, I'm highly inclined to delete any cut-and-paste reentry of that horrible resolution. If you want to include that in your list, better have a solid rewrite in hand before you start.

Okay I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the "Cut n' Pasting" will be ruled illegal, I'll start working on a re-draft. Any suggestions that would cut down on the Mod-Matinence?

Write a solid WA Funding Act that includes the effects of the Direct Taxation Ban in it?

Cob: I'm inserting a clause into the revised version of "Universal Bill of Rights" that will cover slavery.

Tsar: I'll poke Karmi and see if she wants to re-work her UN Funding Act to include the concept of the UN Taxation Ban.

It looks like that single hulled tankers resolution is coming up pretty fast. It jsut needs 33 more delegates.

I can't say that I'm at all enthusiastic about something as fluffily generalised as UBR being re-proposed. Wouldn't it be a better idea to go through the rights individually and nail them down properly, rather than go back to having endless arguments about what the "Right To Arm Bears" actually means? Either you have exactly the sort of wet blanket approach we seem to want to discourage, or we have UBR and all the individual resolutions explaining what it means, and neither of those approaches seems to make sense.

Actually, I believe the plan would be to put "The World Assembly" as, essentially, WAR#0, not WAR#1 (heh... war...). Because you just know some joker would try to Repeal it...

Damn you! I had already planned on it.

Cob said it already, Abolition of Slavery needs to go on the list.

I can't say that I'm at all enthusiastic about something as fluffily generalised as UBR being re-proposed. Wouldn't it be a better idea to go through the rights individually and nail them down properly?

I like this idea. I prefer that to including everything (esp slavery) into an omnibus bill. Break it down.

I like this idea. I prefer that to including everything (esp slavery) into an omnibus bill. Break it down.

I was about to delete that comment, having found the right thread to make it in. Oh well.

OOC: I also agree, and have said so elsewhere.

I definitely think Rights of Neutral States should be added, meaning Wolfish should be given a poke on 2 counts. I also think it would be good to see some of the more sweeping committees (IRCO and UNEA in particular) reestablished.

The Rights of Sentients Act should go on there, unless the Universal Bill of Rights protects both human and nonhuman sentients.

I cannot begin to explain how much I hate this idea. That damn resolution, as written, cause more work for the UN mods than any ten other resolutions combined. Mind you, I'm not totally against the idea, just the way it was phrased.

Since we're currently considering banning plagiarism by anyone other than the original author, and given that Nassland's last login was 1886 days ago, I'm highly inclined to delete any cut-and-paste reentry of that horrible resolution. If you want to include that in your list, better have a solid rewrite in hand before you start.

The idea was a great idea, but anything to replace it that isn't clearly phrased deserves to be deleted. I might try to come up with a more explicit WA taxation code that it would take a true dope to misinterpret. But, and I'm sure the mods will agree, I'm sure they'll find a way.

I will work on Religious tolerance and a humanitarian agency.

I'd put 'Exmigration Rights' fairly high up on the list for replacement, too, so that any people who don't like the way that their current homeland is run -- and who might actually be oppressed there -- can "vote with their feet" and go elsewhere. That would make passing other 'Human Rights' resolutions rather less urgent...

Write a solid WA Funding Act that includes the effects of the Direct Taxation Ban in it?

Tsar: I'll poke Karmi and see if she wants to re-work her UN Funding Act to include the concept of the UN Taxation Ban.
Yup. We can combine the funding and taxation ban in one resolution... it's like us saying that the WA cannot get money from individuals, but only from governments. IMHO it should go first before we establish any agencies that need funding...

I am prepared to set up international standards that specifically be applicable under the World Assembly and future sucessor unions.

Karmi's funding resolution is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12654799&postcount=1), if anyone wanted to look at it.

And yeah a version needs to exist for the WA. No wonder the UN building fell over, no one was maintaining it for free.

In relation to the International Standards Agenda, I wish to announce that I have began a feasibility study on a International Nation Code System as of tonight, and may be viewed and debated here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=553467).

Thanks.

And yeah a version needs to exist for the WA. No wonder the UN building fell over, no one was maintaining it for free.

Hey, we were doing our best to maintain the building with the limited financial resources at our disposal. And we were doing a damn good of it until that damn RLUN came in and blew it up.

Ken Scott
VP Building Maintence Department
WA Building Management