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The World Assembly
A resolution to establish administrative parameters.

Category: Book-keeping
Strength: Sweeping
Proposed by: Maxtopia (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=maxtopia)

Description: The Adopted Nations of the World Assembly,

NOTING that the United Nations has spectacularly imploded in a colossal fireball of extra-dimensional inanity;

BELIEVING that there is a vital and needed role for a global organizational body;

FURTHER NOTING that there are an awful lot of United Nations Resolutions;

FURTHER BELIEVING that the demise of the United Nations may be fashioned into a grand opportunity for nations to draw a new destiny;

HEREBY

1. ESTABLISHES the World Assembly as the natural successor to the United Nations, with the full transfer of all Delegate ranks and associated endorsements;

2. ARCHIVES all previously passed UN Resolutions for historical purposes, so that citizens of today may forever look back upon the masterwork of their ancestors;

3. DECLARES the pages of international law to be blank;

4. INVITES members of the World Assembly to begin work on a new volume, which may in time exceed even the grandeur of its predecessor.

Voting Ends: Sun Apr 6 2008

The UN Sucks

Long Live the World Assembly!

DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF DAYTANISTAN

FROM:
Amad Noosh, Supreme People's Commissioner of Foreign Affairs, Trade, Literature, and Sports

TO:
Foreign Ministry, The Holy Empire of Tannu Touva

On behalf of the workers and peasants of Daytanistan, and with the authorisation of the Supreme Daytan People's Council, I write to you to call upon you as the delegate for Central Asia, to immediately support, on behalf of this glorious region, the resolution presently at vote in the general assembly.

All previous international law was introduced by the international capitalist and imperialist powers to oppress and destroy the international working classes, especially those of our region, long resented by the West for its vastly superior way of life.

The Supreme Daytan People's Council commends the proposal to the delegate and calls upon Tannu Touva to heed the voice of the workers and peasants of Daytanistan and indeed the whole region by voting in favour!

I like the idea, but I think we should get to propose are own names for it and then have a vote on what to call it.

Heres what I would call it-
World Senate

Mikeswill posts 92 votes AGAINST.

UN = WA = more and more continued repeals and unpeals and promised Resolutions

Let Anarchy Rule and just keep the Endorsements to rule over our minnions in our Regions with an Iron Fist.

In the name of Peace, of course.

;p Kisses Sweeties

I'm surprised until now, the UN itself didn't get repealed anyway in a resolution. Ah well, given what day it tis now, I imagine the imploding has only begun. =^^=

But I think this WILL turn out exactly like the UN. After all, there's nothing to keep it from doing so.

The UN/WA should be republic instead of direct democratic. Delegates should make all the decisions, and even then, they should be ejected from the UN/WA for incompitence. A huge number of resolutions are ridden with grammatical errors and such (as this post possibly is (: ). They detract from the UN/WA. Also, nations frequently submit stupid proposals, just because they can't think of anything else. In short: The delegates should completely control the UN/WA. Other UN members will be indirectly involved by election of delegates.

Am I the only one that rejects the notion of being forced to submit to that cackle of idiots in the United Nations? So what if we use their name and symbol? It's just a parody simulation.

VOTE NO for the WORLD ASSEMBLY!!!!

NEVER SETTLE FOR TYRANNY!!!

Am I the only one that rejects the notion of being forced to submit to that cackle of idiots in the United Nations? So what if we use their name and symbol? It's just a parody simulation.

VOTE NO for the WORLD ASSEMBLY!!!!

NEVER SETTLE FOR TYRANNY!!!

What are you talking about? The only idiotic thing is the quantity of pointless resolutions and following repeals that have built up from the UN. Plus "for" is going to win, I can already see it happening.

What are you talking about? The only idiotic thing is the quantity of pointless resolutions and following repeals that have built up from the UN. Plus "for" is going to win, I can already see it happening.

Is there no fight left in people anymore? You're being oppressed for your ability to parody the quantity of pointless resolutions and following repeals in the actual UN. The UN is not a respectable assembly, and now it enters my book of satanic organizations. Their administrators can burn in hell for all I care. I'm not accepting a substitute organizational name to parody the UN.

What are you talking about? The only idiotic thing is the quantity of pointless resolutions and following repeals that have built up from the UN. Plus "for" is going to win, I can already see it happening.

Which ones (http://nationstates.wikia.com/wiki/User:Blast/UN_Resolutions) do you feel are pointless?

I frankly don't see the need to go "oh let's make a new organization that does nothing different than the last institution and call it progress" even if this is April Fool's Day.

What's the difference? Why bother?:sniper:
I voted against. I don't see the point of the resolution. And I thought game-mechanics resolutions were banned?
(Although I must admit that it hardly changes the gmae: the only difference is the graphics. Which suck.)

... even if this is April Fool's Day.

Now I feel like a dummy.

America will oppose the WA. Down with one world government.

Which ones (http://nationstates.wikia.com/wiki/User:Blast/UN_Resolutions) do you feel are pointless?

I frankly don't see the need to go "oh let's make a new organization that does nothing different than the last institution and call it progress" even if this is April Fool's Day.It helps detach the NS world from IRL organizations while providing grounds to wipe out the old resolutions, allowing for a fresh start with careful, intelligent consideration. If it will undo everything the UN has done so far, I will definitely call it progress. Makes me wish it was any other day.

What's the difference? Why bother?:sniper:
I voted against. I don't see the point of the resolution. And I thought game-mechanics resolutions were banned?
(Although I must admit that it hardly changes the gmae: the only difference is the graphics. Which suck.)

Yeah, the graphics are terrible. I also don't like the name... for some reason it reminds me of the post WWI "League of Nations." At the same rate, I like the idea of scrapping all previous resolutions and starting fresh instead of repealing each resolution one at a time (in some cases days after they were passed).

I voted against. I don't see the point of the resolution. And I thought game-mechanics resolutions were banned?

Game Mechanics resolutions are banned, because the Admins can't be called on to change the game whenever the players pass a resolution. However, nothing prevents the Admins from deciding to change the game on their own, and granting you a vote on the subject. Note the Category and Strength. Can you choose those? Nope.

Game Mechanics resolutions remain banned for players. The rules haven't changed.

Game Mechanics resolutions are banned, because the Admins can't be called on to change the game whenever the players pass a resolution. However, nothing prevents the Admins from deciding to change the game on their own, and granting you a vote on the subject. Note the Category and Strength. Can you choose those? Nope.

Game Mechanics resolutions remain banned for players. The rules haven't changed.

Besides, if you check you'll notice that the submitting nation isn't even part of the UN, uh I mean the WA

Obviously done for April 1, though I don't see the comic value of it.

It's an elusive Max sighting! MAXTOPIA LIIIIIVES!

I really thought Max's nation would be

1. Older, therefore more populated

2. Based on his book.

Oh well.

I really thought Max's nation would be

1. Older, therefore more populatedIt is old, it's just been dead for a long time.

I like it. I wonder what happens/could it possibly fail. this gives us an oppurtunity to effectively redo early legislation and not have shitty.... shitty resolutions at the beginning (right to fair trial and definition come to mind).

Literally it allows us to rehash all old debates, it is effectively a repeal of everything. You dont like something the UN did, great, you get a chance to undo it. You do like what the UN did in every case..... great... you get to redo it all. people are right, not much will change, but will change is awesome.

Yeah, the graphics are terrible. I also don't like the name... for some reason it reminds me of the post WWI "League of Nations." What's the problem with that? The League of Nations was an impotent, incompetent organisation populated by morons.

So errrr....what is the difference? :p

Literally it allows us to rehash all old debates,

Believe me, there are debates that some of us would rather not go through again.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

Believe me, there are debates that some of us would rather not go through again.

yeah i can see some of them would suck.... but i play this game to argue over-enthusiastically and slightly irrationally, and occasionally drunk, over things that in no way matter, with people who will never see me, or know me; so its all good for me.

plus, the protection for orphans act might fail second time around......

god i cant wait.

But I think this WILL turn out exactly like the UN. After all, there's nothing to keep it from doing so.

The UN/WA should be republic instead of direct democratic. Delegates should make all the decisions, and even then, they should be ejected from the UN/WA for incompitence. A huge number of resolutions are ridden with grammatical errors and such (as this post possibly is (: ). They detract from the UN/WA. Also, nations frequently submit stupid proposals, just because they can't think of anything else. In short: The delegates should completely control the UN/WA. Other UN members will be indirectly involved by election of delegates.

First to direct attention to the quote above, in order for the proposals to reach quorum, they had to be approved by the delegates in the first place. Therefore it can be assumed that delegates are just as capable of subjecting the WA to stupid proposals and/or grammatically incorrect proposals as other UN members. I do not think a Republic approach will stop improper proposals from being submitted and passing.

Second, to address some of the other posts, the great thing about nationstates is that you do not have to be a member of the WA just like when the UN existed. If you do not like the WA, then you don't have to join and will not be held to their decisions. Personally, I think the WA is an excellent opportunity for all NationStates WA members.

We embrace this grand opportunity to clean the slate and impose ... erm ... work toward a perfect, one-world government modeled on the perfection that is Rubina. We wish only that the organization were named the World Hegemony Association, allowing us to call during debate for the WHAaaambulance.

Forward march, comrades, to the hotel in the rain.

...deposits empty vodka bottle in the bottom desk drawer and passes out...

We thought of calling it the NationStates Assembly, but then we thought it was better to avoid cease and desist letters from the NSA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA) (or unmarked black vans from the NSA).

Heh. Come to think of it, The World Assembly works well enough... the teams of gnomes sent out shall henceforth work under the acronym--oh? ok... let's not go there. :D

George Willing, Deputy Ambassador to the United Nations was, for lack of a better word, pissed.

He stood in front of the assembly, and as the faces looked at him, he realized his purpose in this great body was, perhaps now, coming to an end.

"My friends, I come to you today, to debate this travesty of a resolution. IT'S NOT FAIR. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO HAPPEN NOW, WE WERE JUST GETTING STARTED.::upyours::gundge::sniper::mp5::headbang::upyours::mp5::sniper::headbang::gundge:"

Mr. Willing composed himself.

"Also, I'd just like to say, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA," Mr Willing cleared his throat, "Ahem, that is all."


OOC: You have included 23 images in your message. You are limited to using 10 images so please go back and correct the problem and then continue again.

Probably for the best, lest my joke be taken too seriously.

Although our ultimate vote will be determined by a regional poll in Wysteria, we wish to make our outright objection to this legislation known. In one fell swoop, this resolution would accomplish more for the cause of villainy and evil than any project of the most dark and depraved ravages of the vast, right-wing conspiracy that has long plagued the halls of this one fine body. A vote for this resolution is a vote for tyranny, slavery, fascism, oppression and hurting puppies; a vote against is a vote to preserve liberty, equality and sorority for all. We urge, nay we strongly encourage!!, all member nations to remember their ties to the once glorious United Nations, and vote against this foul harbinger of iniquity and plague.

Was the UN, at times, a flawed body? Yes, it was. Did it lack, in some respects, the full capacities required of a genuine agent of the peace? Yes, it did. Were some of its resolutions poorly conceived, or poorly executed? Yes, they were. Yet will we stand idly by and wave on the horrendous and horrific hordes of hurtful hatemongers as they goose-step their way across the broken back of an organization that was, on the whole, a force for good? NO, WE, WON'T!

Do you hear that sound? It is the sound of IRONSHOD JACKBOOTS, and it is your choice whether to allow the massing forces of evil to cross the BRIDGE OF DEATH.* Do you catch that smell? It is the rancid reek of diseased flesh as the Global AIDS Initiative and World Organ Donor Centre are abolished, the putrid perfume of violence and disorder as the UN Bio Agent Convention and Wolfish Convention on POW are ignored, the stagnant stinking stench of repression, suppression and oppression as every one of the 48 standing Human Rights resolutions is reduced to some trivial museum piece to be 'look[ed] back upon'. To those who have summoned this hate-maelstrom of abominable sacrilege, we can only say: look back on this! :upyours:

-- Samantha Benson
Congressional Liaison, Department of UN Affairs
Quintessence of Dust, Delegate of Wysteria

Continuing to froth at the mouth, but lapsing into increasingly profane and incoherent spew suspiciously redolent of a mix of Pulp Fiction, 19th century hellfire preaching and some bad acid, Sam is dragged out by staff members to be sedated. Nervously, Dr. Monsettier takes the platform.

My apologies for that. I shall be brief: I merely wish to note that our nation notes the, uh, 'bravery'? of the region of Gatesville, who have long advocated a repeal of all UN laws, and who now turn around and vote against one delivering such. As the great Quodite dramatist and aesthetic philosopher Johann von Quiller once said, the gods themselves contend in vain...

-- Dr. Luc Monsettier
Chair, Quintessential Red Cross Organization

* Under Quintessential Congress Resolution 47-360, federal funding for the Bridge of Death has been earmarked at S1.7bn for FY2009.

OOC Edit: God fucking damn you Douria!

The Foreign Ministry of The United Barbarian War Bands of Los De Abajo, having duly noted the proximity of the putative Resolution to April Fool's Day, has instructed Its Ambassador to the United Nations to vote NO on the resolution.

The Foreign Ministry is deeply suspicious of a Resolution which appears to have been implemented prior to being passed!

The Foreign Ministry also notes that the putative resolution was never floated as a Proposal, and thus could not have received the required number of votes to achieve quorum.

While acknowledging that the resolution may indeed possess some merit, the Foreign Ministry urges all interested parties to vote NO, for each and every of the foregoing reasons.

In the Name of the Great Goddess Ayn Rand, and on behalf of His Most Barbaric Highness, Iovannes I, Exalted Ruler and Grand Panjandrum of The United Barbarian War Bands of Los De Abajo.

Issue authority: The Foreign Ministry of The United Barbarian War Bands of Los De Abajo, 1 April 2008.

A few thoughts from the Free People of Aurzuk about WA

1. WA will be almost the same of UN

2. UN was really collapsing under its unbelievable number of resolutions

3. a change of direction in World Guidance is necessary

4. WA will be a good solution to change nothing in order to change everything.

Say NOOOOO to WA as the name. Call it the Union of Nations (UoN) and make it's emblem similar to but distinctly different from the UN one. ;)

Say NOOOOO to WA as the name. Call it the Union of Nations (UoN) and make it's emblem similar to but distinctly different from the UN one. ;)

A passing Secretariat member, hearing the hubbub, stops by the impromptu convocation going on in the shattered rubble of the UNHQ. He sighs, rubbing wearily at the Tetragrammaton Sign (מאכס) inscribed upon his brow.

"I told Him there'd be trouble over how He wrote it, yes I did ... ahem. As it happens, we considered this one; but the RLUN (http://www.un.org) didn't even want us using their initials. We should have gone with World Congress, that'd show them, when they were voting in the WC ... long story short, you don't get to vote on the name. The Tetragrammaton Lord in His wisdom has allowed you to vote upon whether we pull the Gnomes off searching for surviving Representatives and put them onto searching for surviving Resolutions, and that's all this proposal does.

"As for the insignia, it is (at present) an interim logo; early proposals actually had "interim insignia" on them. If you have any bright ideas for the World Assembly flag, there'll be a time to submit them. They don't like my design, I should forumban the lot of them ..."

The Secretariat member, spiel delivered, continues on his way.

DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT

Ad nauseum.

The first thing I noticed about this sudden, previously unheard of change was the date of the notice: April 1: aka April Fool's Day.

Perhaps it is real, perhaps not. However, like other nations have already noted, a vote on the World Assembly name, as well as our position on the "UNs" demand would have been nice.

One thing to remember, regardless of the label you choose to attach to the name of this body, most things will remain the same.

Respectfully

Independent New Texas

I know that this will make me sound like an utter burke, but i opened up my nation and saw "WA member" and being Australian i thought, 'what the hell, since when is Goulbourne Valley in Western Australia?!'

Also, does anyone else see something iffy with this image,
-The United nations committee on human right is discussing human rights abuses in Sudan when suddenly a breathless secretary runs into the chamber,
"Mr general secretary" he pants, "An internet game is using our name for entertainment purposes"
"We'll soon see about that!" says Ban ki Moon, "To the UN mobile!"
Exit stage left.
a bit shonky if you ask me, which no-one does

This would only be a good April Fools joke, if the WA stayed. No one expects it to stay. ;)

]Also, does anyone else see something iffy with this image,
-The United nations committee on human right is discussing human rights abuses in Sudan when suddenly a breathless secretary runs into the chamber,
"Mr general secretary" he pants, "An internet game is using our name for entertainment purposes"
"We'll soon see about that!" says Ban ki Moon, "To the UN mobile!"
Exit stage left.
a bit shonky if you ask me, which no-one does
It is suspicious. More than suspicious, actually. I don't even believe it's real. But, if this had happened on any date other than April First, I would not be the least bit surprised. The real UN is, at best, a mass collection of arrogant little busy-bodies who micromanage everything they can get away with.

That being the case, I voted FOR because I like the new flag. :p

If this is not an April foul's day joke, The Democratic Republic of Mazzepa will leave the WA if the resolution passes.

We agree that this WA will be just the same as the UN.

What is the point of replacing a broken car with another broken car?

La Rinnosso Unnona di Norden e Marchòbrutellia votoce RESCHE hoce resoluzione. Noi della forzechi e della zemechi votocche per hoci "Tramblo Monda" scionca justi percce la Nazioni Unnonecca brucereco e justi percce di la caprizze qualeque che la vacascita-fucheca-cagno mitellía RL Monde! :mad:

The United Kingdom of Brutland and Norden votes AGAINST this resolution. We will not be forced and conned to vote for this preposterous "World Assembly" just because the United Nations burned down and just because of the whims of someone from that *expletives deleted* mythical RL World! :mad:

Carina Talchimio-Spicolli
The Permanent Royal Nord-Brutlandese Ambassador to the United Nations/World Assembly

If this is not an April foul's day joke, The Democratic Republic of Mazzepa will leave the WA if the resolution passes.

We agree that this WA will be just the same as the UN.

What is the point of replacing a broken car with another broken car?So why did you join in the first place?

I love the over abundance of people who whine about this being just like the UN...duh! It's just a mulligan. That being said, no one has ever been forced to participate in these organizations, so your whining is comparable to complaining that you didn't like your self-microwaved dinner...its all your own fault.

Of course, the mulligan provides an opportunity to revisit some of those early resolutions with less than 600 total votes (not that I minded much, but it'll be interesting to see how this all goes, if its not an April Fool's Joke).

It’s the final countdown (http://youtube.com/watch?v=7w08n6lFOBI)as we move to the new world order the new world senate which I am a part of. This never going to work every one that has tried to take over the world has failed. Rouge nations and former U.N. members will cause war this will not help unite the world but draw it in to conflict. Democracy and civil rights will be taken away replaced by a new world K.G.B. or Gestapo and all of nations will be nothing more then world assemble police states. This is only going to end one way some one will snap (http://youtube.com/watch?v=rIUZtvLfVlA&feature=related) :(

But I think this WILL turn out exactly like the UN. After all, there's nothing to keep it from doing so.

The UN/WA should be republic instead of direct democratic. Delegates should make all the decisions, and even then, they should be ejected from the UN/WA for incompitence. A huge number of resolutions are ridden with grammatical errors and such (as this post possibly is (: ). They detract from the UN/WA. Also, nations frequently submit stupid proposals, just because they can't think of anything else. In short: The delegates should completely control the UN/WA. Other UN members will be indirectly involved by election of delegates.

I totally agree.. I may add that adopting this organization may boost regional internal interaction: each WA member should choose how to make decissions, having many choices (own will, voting, re-classification of regional nations with the consequence of only some of them will vote, etc.). And also, the regional nations may quit supporting their WA delegate if it makes decissions that they don't like.

PS: Sorry for my English, it's my second language

Hey, a blank slate sounds fine to me...though let me point out that, by the offical story Max is having us go with, the NS UN was completly destroyed by the RL UN in a massive fireball. So, if we wanted to be picky, couldn't we claim this as an act of war by the UN?

Not that anything would come of it, though I suppose it could make a fun RP...

Even though its a nice april fools joke, I think we should keep it anyway!

Doesnt beat NationDates though, but pretty cool!

I don't know why people are getting so het up about it, all it is is a new name for the UN because of lawsuits from the REAL UN. Althogh, it would be interesting to see what would happen if it got passed as NO. What, there wouldn't be anything anymore?

I'm not even sure whether any of this is actually necessary anyway.
That's all it is, a new name for an old thing.

my question, if someone will answer. How come all ranks and titles from the old UN are being transferred to the World Assembly. With the downfall of the UN, shouldn't all officers with rank and title, be abolished as well?

Cerys Coch, Permanant Undersecretary to the Gobbannaen WA Office, crunches her way over the rubble to the makeshift podium, and lifts the megaphone Prince Rhodri swiped from the DRASANGA delegation only a few days ago.

"We've managed to get the Ambassador stuck in the bar for a while. I don't know how long that's going to last, so if you see him coming yell out.

"I want to plead for everyone to vote AGAINST this proposal. Seriously. Yes, there's a lot of crap in the old resolution list, but at least it's there. If we wipe the slate clean, we're just opening the door for a flood of new crap. Specifically, the Ambassador's already getting excited about rewriting the whole of the old human rights legislation, only in his inimitable style. Stultifyingly verbose, in other words. Pass this resolution, and not only will you have to read all this crap, but I'll have to translate it into proper English to. That's not going to make me happy, and if I'm not happy I'll share the unhappiness around, OK?

"What are you waiting for? Get out there and vote for your future sanity!"

--
Cerys Coch, permanant undersecretary to...

The World Assembly
A resolution to establish administrative parameters.

Category: Book-keeping
Strength: Sweeping
Proposed by: Maxtopia (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=maxtopia)

Description: The Adopted Nations of the World Assembly,

[...]

HEREBY

[...]

3. DECLARES the pages of international law to be blank;


Then why does the link to the last WA proposal link to the last UN resolution before the UN exploded. And why am I a member of the WA, when the resolution hasn't passed yet and endorsemonts, etc. haven't been transfered?

The Confused Borderlands of Dvorak Users

P.S. I don't know why I bother; the UN will probably unexplode tomorrow. Strange thinks happen when different dimensions are concerned, especially around this time of year...

I think W.C. Fields said it best when he said, "I never vote for anything. I always vote against."

I'm far too lazy to read all of the previous posts, but...

If this resolution wipes out all resolutions, does it also wipe itself out?

I the Hiadent of the Hiadentship of Herrebrugh am not going to be opressed by some dumb dummies listening to there "head master" in my nation riots and total anarchie have been reported! Vote against this pointles proposal!

"Maxtopia? Isn't that the nation ruled by the guy-"

beep beep

"Aha. Well." Ex-delegate Gardner picks up a microphone left lying around. The feedback squeaks. Loudly.

"Oh! Um, if anybody's actually listening to me, Plutoni very strongly supports this resolution. We'd actually join and vote for it too. Only it'll probably be gone before we're allowed in. Oh well."

He wanders off and is quickly lost in the crowd.

While I, the CEO of the Incorporated States of Video Game Enthusiasts and former UN delegate, feel that there is a definite need for a worldwide regulatory body like the World Assembly, I cannot in good conscience vote for the creation of such a body within an as-yet illegitimate organization.

Vote NO for the World Assembly!

The Empire is voting FOR because we like green better than blue.

The Empire is voting FOR because we like green better than blue.

Seconded.

Vance Aceon
Former Deputy Presiding Jevian United Nations Ambassador
Current Deputy Presiding Jevian World Assembly Ambassador

from The Allied Empire of Jey
Delegate of the United Nations region

The Most Serene Republic of Saint Mark and Venice has seen todays demise of the United Nations with mixed feelings. We understand the need for international law and justice but we are a nation that takes pride in our souvereignty. Therefore we cannot agree with the idea of a centralised world government.

Therefore, the Most Serene Republic will monitor the situation on a day to day basis and if the UN will not be restored to it's former glory by April 10- then the Most Serene Republic will withdraw itself from the international community and seek a policy of active neutrality.

Change is not always bad. We can only hope that the WA will be more effective than the old UN. Rynotia proudly supports the legislation.

:headbang:

1st of april...
nice joke

Fürst Wicke I

I for one am fully in favor of the creation of the World Assembly. LONG LIVE THE W.A.!

....but if this is an April Fools Joke, I will be pissed!

Here's some Big questions...

Are they just now finding out about the NS UN? why do they care?, I mean it's been up for six years correct?

:mp5:

Drasanga has observed the argument, and now would like to add their supprot this issue. However, what precedent does this set? According to this resoloution, if I take exception to several laws in the WA, why not just strike all previous legislation out and write all new? So I guess my question is who's to stop someone who gets the votes to strike out all prior laws and start with a clean slate? Addressing the comments of my most learned colleagues, why is it such a bad change for the new, and current delagates to have a say in the laws of the international law of the land? Also, if you don't like the changes, Resign. There is a reason that the Resign tab was made to be clickable. Again having said that, why was I automaticaly inducted into the WA after the fall of the UN?
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

....but if this is an April Fools Joke, I will be pissed!We'll find out tomorrow.

So I guess my question is who's to stop someone who gets the votes to strike out all prior laws and start with a clean slate?

Max Barry.

Again having said that, why was I automaticaly inducted into the WA after the fall of the UN?

Max made it so. You may, of course, resign.

Even if the explanation is an April Fools Joke... Keep the new organization. I would like to see what would happen in this new WA.

The kingdom of Grasaland is very annoyed at the fall of the UN but is more annoyed by the real UN for this stupidity!

& if this is a April fools I will have to say its good but if not then grasaland will be forced to withdraw

VOTE No on WA !

Why no email of this important news!

*Finds a rather tall standing piece of rubble to speak from, in an attempt to address the furious mob clamoring their way around the charcoal...what used to be the great General Assembly hall.*

Fellow UN...uh....WA Delegates and members, as of course you would know, this is one of the most groundbreaking events that has ever hit NationStates.

No, not because your panels are reduced to smoke and ashes, and no, not because that refreshing water cooler at the back door is now non-existent...BUT because our Global Government is to take upon another name, and will burn all the paperwork in the process.

*coughs as smoke rises from the rubble*

The difference between the UN and WA?...Eh, whats that?...no good senator, this debris isn't going to be permanent WA living conditions...the difference is - one comes with 200+ resolutions, probably 150 of which are mountains of turd. Enough to fertilize the new WA gardens for the next hundred years. The other comes with a clean slate, and the chance to start anew.

Now, although we do recognize the difficulties that the representative of Quintessence of Dust, Samantha Benson, points out – we would like to maintain that these are only temporary issues. The very valuable, and rare mind you, resolutions such as ‘The Universal Bill of Rights’ and ‘The Child Protection Act’ will be struck void, yes. And will of course be re-written, and passed with just as much support. The nations haven’t changed over the years. Resolutions that MUST be re-submitted again are a minority.

The turd, the sloppy shambles we call 'resolutions'....forms the majority. *Consults his calculator* Years ago, the rubbish would have counted as about 10% of total resolutions. Then it crept up to 40%, then 60% and now its probably at 75%. Given the current trend, this can only continue until the trash looms over the vital resolutions at a monstrous 99%.

In our reasoning, we would rather see everything reduced to 0%, from a completely new and fresh start. But won’t WA just re-start the cycle again? I don’t believe so. Why? Because we now have EXPERIENCE. We should have learnt from our mistakes. And for those that haven't learnt from our shortcomings....I'll be tempted myself to run them through with my blade, right here, right now.

We are now much wiser than we were when the UN was first founded. And if we start from the clean WA slate again, we will be sure to do everything in our power to keep our resolution list sparkling, orderly and clean. As opposed to the UN’s filthy, unacceptable list.

To us: A new start is more beneficial than the repealing of a hundred unworthy resolutions.

Sure, a handful of resolutions MUST be re-submitted as soon as possible, but aren’t we lucky they in no way form the majority?

Oh, and we don’t say this with ease. We take great pains to support The World Assembly. Because in contrast with Jey, we like blue better than green.

_________________

CoN Lord Chancellor
Delegate of the Council of Narnia

It helps detach the NS world from IRL organizations while providing grounds to wipe out the old resolutions, allowing for a fresh start with careful, intelligent consideration. If it will undo everything the UN has done so far, I will definitely call it progress. Makes me wish it was any other day.

Quoted for truth.

I personally think the whole "UN" function in this game needs to be rethought and rebuilt from the ground up. It shouldn't be nessary to be a member of the UN or the WA or whatever it will be called tommrow when this is all over in order to have a vote on who controls the region you live in. The two functions ("The UN" and "Regions") should be totally sperate.

But since Max Berry is apparently too lazy to design new fatures for his game, I suspect that will never happen... so, I guess having the WA replace the UN and erase all the stupid old rules is probably the best we can ask for.

And if this turns out to be another April Fools day prank, then that would just be sad because this is probably this first time I've EVER seen anything new happen in the year or so I've been playing this game.

Goobergunchia will be voting against this resolution. Clause 3 is overly broad and will force this [ahem] formerly august body to refight far too many battles that it has already fought. We suggest that the resolution be rejected and resubmitted with a modified Clause 3 that grandfathers in the respected, reasonably non-controversial resolutions of this body.

If this resolution is adopted, Goobergunchia will immediately resubmit UN Resolution #25, the Child Protection Act, with an additional clause to incorporate UN Resolution #22, Outlaw Pedophilia, into that resolution.

We also echo the concerns raised regarding the numbering of past resolutions.

[Lord] Michael Evif
Goobergunchian UN Ambassador

And if this turns out to be another April Fools day prank, then that would just be sad because this is probably this first time I've EVER seen anything new happen in the year or so I've been playing this game.

Um...you missed the update that occured two weeks ago?

First.... Hello again :)

Second... This is a great idea. Can we have a dictator chair the WA or has Fris already claimed that installing his Modmin cronies in the powah positions?

Vive la revolution! :p

The UN is vershimmelt! We can now build something that promotes liberty and national sovereignty instead of restricting it!

I am absolutely in favor of this!

Goobergunchia will be voting against this resolution. Clause 3 is overly broad and will force this [ahem] formerly august body to refight far too many battles that it has already fought. We suggest that the resolution be rejected and resubmitted with a modified Clause 3 that grandfathers in the respected, reasonably non-controversial resolutions of this body.

If this resolution is adopted, Goobergunchia will immediately resubmit UN Resolution #25, the Child Protection Act, with an additional clause to incorporate UN Resolution #22, Outlaw Pedophilia, into that resolution.

We also echo the concerns raised regarding the numbering of past resolutions.

[Lord] Michael Evif
Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
Having recently come back from extended business trip, the ambassador from the Popotan strolls in and hears a remark that catches his interest and deems a reply is nessarary,

"And The Popotan shall submit it's own similar one which does not seek to force nations to define a legal age of 18 if they haven't set a specific age as not all nations have human populace nor do all nations use age as their criteria. Some might use other criteria.

As for outlawing pedophilia, we believe this resolution will adequately take care of this without burdening the organization with redundant clauses and resolutions."

- The Popotan

The recently renamed "World Assembly Republic of Centrax" votes for this proposal. Most of the old UN resolutions were junk anyway, and this will repeal all of them at once.

why should the WA Delegates rule the WA is my Qustion there are other nation in the WA that what a voice and they need too. Man what has people came too.

I voted for it.

The WA Rep. of The Federation of Rosie'ka

But since Max Berry is apparently too lazy to design new fatures for his game, I suspect that will never happen... so, I guess having the WA replace the UN and erase all the stupid old rules is probably the best we can ask for.

OOC: Wow, it's easy to criticize something you had no hand in creating or administering, and get to play for free at that. It's also amazingly useless and childish, but hey, whatever floats your boat. You also spelled Max Barry's name wrong...how impressive. Anyway, back to IC.

We were hoping that the new order would only abolish the bad resolutions of the past, leaving the new ones intact. Nevertheless, we shall await the outcome of this new order with great anticipation....assuming, of course, that it's not all just a bad dream on our part caused by too much wine before bed.

Ikir Askanabath, etc.

The Greater Boblandian UN delegate had never been more confused. Despite spending most of the day reviewing the situation with staffers, he still could not fully understand the situation.

“So the United Nations has collapsed… because an alternate universe is threatening to sue us under New York state law? Did you inform them that we’re not in New York?”
“Yes, sir, several times, but they don’t seem to care,” an exasperated staffer responded.

Two glasses of well-aged scotch later, the delegate rose to address the General Assemb - er, whatever.

“Ladies and gentlemen of the United Nations-[What? Oh.] Ladies and gentlemen of the ‘World Assembly,’ this is, by far, the gravest situation our august body has ever faced. I would first like to congratulate our real-world counterparts for so steadfastly and diligently working to fulfill the goals laid out by the hopeful founders in the UN Charter of 1945. Seriously, f*ck Darfur, this is by far the most important issue facing the international community today. Now, our nation’s first reaction was to suggest that our United Nations do nothing. Looking at their records, it seems like the last time their UN had the guts to enforce anything was in 1950. Our second reaction was to vote against this proposal because we think the new flag is hideous. Seriously, there’s an Internet referendum going on right now. *Glances at mobile phone* Yep. However, there is a major difference between the beginnings of the United Nations and the beginning of this ‘World Assembly’ – Maturity.

No, I’m serious. When the NSUN first opened its doors, there were no established protocols, almost no ground rules above the literal words in the FAQ to guide delegates. Almost anything was allowed to get through. Seriously, have you looked? At least the first proposal went out and did something. That’s more than you can say about most of them until about the twenties or so. The NationStates international legislative community has developed quite a sophisticated system in these past few years, and has brought together all sorts of mechanisms and metering for the legislative process. Where once there was nothing but anarchy and an as-is lawmaking process with virtually no revision, we have – completely by agreement of members and without cohesion by outside parties – processes for the development of an idea for law into full-fledged and (mostly) coherent statute. Look at the difference between the early and modern resolutions: there is a remarkable, a miraculous difference between them. And furthermore, these resolutions have, if anything, been growing more coherent and sophisticated as time goes on. A fresh start would allow us to work with the kind of freedom we had in those early years when literally nothing was on the books using the wisdom we have from dealing with the consequences of those early years. It will be as if the founders of the first NSUN had the clairvoyance to predict and avert some of their worst mistakes. Now, I’m not saying that the process is flawless and the best laws always pass; there is no government in this world that can boast so with a straight face. What I am willing to say is that this time around will be better than the last; that we have learned from our mistakes and, with the past no longer tying us down, will have a far greater chance to excel than our forbearers ever did. Thank you for your time.”
*Steps Down*


Meanwhile, Across the Inky Black Void of Space!

“Doctor, we have received a communication from the United Nations of Earth. They’re threatening to sue us.”
Dr. Prokhor Zakharov reclined in his chair. This one sentence should have seemed wildly nonsensical, but ever since the alien artifact brought to Lomonosov Park began to… malfunction, events like this were becoming more commonplace. “Are they? And what brought this on?”
The aide continued talking, scanning the PDA as he did so. “Apparently, the symbology used by the Planetary Council is a violation of their copyright, and the existence of both the UNS Unity and the Peacekeeper faction could confuse citizens of their world into thinking that they had launched an interplanetary colony system. They demand we disband the council and assassinate Commissioner Lal. They are waiting for our compliance.”
Zakharov considered this for a minute before bursting into laughter, loud at first and dying down to a chuckle. “Well then. Contact the Minister of Defense. Tell him to start warming the planet busters.”
“The- the singularity-“
“I wouldn’t settle for anything less.”

Edited: General cleaning crap up

I wonder what would happen if everybody against the World Assembly...

OOC: We'd like to point out, so that everyone is clear on this - that Max Barry has NO CHOICE but to abolish the NSUN, despite how you vote:

"We therefore demand that you immediately cease and desist from using the United Nations name and emblem in the above-referenced online game [NationStates], and that in the future you refrain from using or making any reference to them in connection with your activities."

--- FROM THE REAL UNITED NATIONS ---

Full legal notice:

http://www.nationstates.net/unlegal.pdf

Whoa. They make we wannabes seem like noobs...

Therefore, the World Assembly really is inevitable.

________________

CoN Lord Chancellor
Delegate of The Council of Narnia

I would like to say that I will be very upset if this is an April Fools joke. I like the green better, and the new flag looks cool. Furthermore, I could see this actually happening. It really wouldn't surprise me, in fact I was kind of waiting for it/wondering why nothing had been done yet... Anyway, the 2nd WA resolution should be the WA taxation ban.

LONG LIVE THE WA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This isn't an April Fools joke. Can you imagine the legal consequences Max Barry would face for misrepresenting Andrei Terekhov, the real United Nations Deputy Director, forging his signature and for composing a fake notice from the real United Nations?
_________________

CoN Lord Chancellor
Delegate of The Council of Narnia

Goobergunchia will be voting against this resolution. Clause 3 is overly broad and will force this [ahem] formerly august body to refight far too many battles that it has already fought. We suggest that the resolution be rejected and resubmitted with a modified Clause 3 that grandfathers in the respected, reasonably non-controversial resolutions of this body.

If this resolution is adopted, Goobergunchia will immediately resubmit UN Resolution #25, the Child Protection Act, with an additional clause to incorporate UN Resolution #22, Outlaw Pedophilia, into that resolution.

We also echo the concerns raised regarding the numbering of past resolutions.

[Lord] Michael Evif
Goobergunchian UN Ambassador

While the United States votes against and is opposed to the creation of a WA, if it passes, the United States will support the resubmission and repassage of the Child Protection Act and the Outlaw Pedophilia resolutions.
The USA- notes that while we may not like certain laws made by the UN, it is best to remain engaged in that we will only withdraw when it looks like resolutions harmful to our nation will be passed and then we will rejoin when new friendlier resolutions are up for vote

*snipped*

OOC: Alpha Centauri for the win!

This isn't an April Fools joke. Can you imagine the legal consequences Max Barry would face for misrepresenting Andrei Terekhov, the real United Nations Deputy Director, forging his signature and for composing a fake notice from the real United Nations?
_________________

CoN Lord Chancellor
Delegate of The Council of Narnia

I will laugh my ass off when it turns out you are wrong.

OOC:



I will laugh my ass off when it turns out you are wrong.

OOC : That would be veryfunny and I must say I would have to laugh as well.

This isn't an April Fools joke. Can you imagine the legal consequences Max Barry would face for misrepresenting Andrei Terekhov, the real United Nations Deputy Director, forging his signature and for composing a fake notice from the real United Nations?
_________________

CoN Lord Chancellor
Delegate of The Council of Narnia

The best part is that the real UN has actually sued businesses for using its initials or name. LOL

Not sure about nonprofits though.

OOC : That would be veryfunny and I must say I would have to laugh as well.

OOC: we have a couple more hours to find out. I think we will be back to old UN by this time tomorrow. LOL

I will laugh my ass off when it turns out you are wrong.

OOC: Haha it would be funny...Mr. Barry would have totally blindsided most of us...I do realize he has a sense of humor, but I seriously doubt he would risk NationStates over an April Fools joke.

I'd hate to burst your bubble, guys, but...

This is a hoax

As stated in the "official" UN letter, the UN outlawed the use of thier emblem in Resolution #92 of Dec. 1946.
BUT
The UN did not have a resolution 96 in December 1946. And the REAL resolution 96 was approved in May 1951. It concerned PALESTINE.Specifically, the Arabs breaking a cease fire.

Happy April Fool's day, everybody.

DECLARES the pages of international law to be blank;We rise in strong support of this article, especially the highlighted passage. A clean slate is sometimes what is necessary for the betterment of the legislative process. Sometimes you just have to start over, and pretend past errors never existed. We only regret that the resolution does not also extend to the recorded proceedings of this body, which bear many embarrassing remarks we'd just as soon see gone.

For example, the instance wherein we were called "the easiest girl in the entire General Assembly." We take extreme exception to that gross mischaracterization!

**steps to the side of the podium to give the assembled diplomats a good view of her very womanly form**

Does this look like a "girl's" body to you?! No, I didn't think so.

We'd also like to strike out various remarks from the same offender in the documented minutes of this body -- including one such comment made during the debate on Meteorological Cooperation, to wit: "I'll support this, but only if we name every single hurricane 'Hurricane Dicey,' 'cause not even Katrina could hold a candle to that b--"

Are you getting all this, recording secretary?

Good, good.

Or another incident, in which he wondered whether he could put a lump of coal on Samantha Benson's chair, and see her pull a diamond from her ass once she stood up again? Or what he said of his own vice president, not two months later: "That Antigone Morgan's so slutty, she could [sexually congress] the entire roster of the Paradise City Dumbasses and not break a sweat!"

And let's not forget the time he tried to sell me to Sen. Sulla in exchange for support on anti-terror legislation!

Also, these unbelievably inappropriate and suggestive statements, made during this very session of the GA: "I'd like to World your Assembly, if you know what I mean," "You make me want to Max my topia, if you know what I mean," and last, but certainly not least: "You're giving me a serious Terekhov right now, if you know what I mean."

We trust the Secretary-General will look into these matters and delve out the appropriate sanction, after which remanding the offending party into my custody, for some "serious consequences," if you know what I mean.

Thank you all for your time.

--The Thessadorian Ambassador

The UN did not have a resolution 96 in December 1946.

Yes. But they did have General Assembly Resolution 92 (I), which is exactly what was quoted.

Although I joined NationStates before, never have I felt a need to post in these forums till now.

This whole real United Nations condemning NationStates for using the so-called UN brand is a load of bull!

The United Nations is supposed to be about unity and solidarity of the world people, and NationStates, I believe, promotes that through its many nations, regions, and yes, its United Nations. There is nothing wrong with the use of the symbol, and name for these purposes, which are noble.

I find it ridiculous that the name "United Nations" is protected under Interllectual Property laws, laws which lets face it suck in the first place for all the creativity and innovation they stifle, and for all the suffering they cause those who can't afford the price that comes with using such "property", some of whom live in the most destitute parts of the world.

Attempting to force IP laws down on us here is abhorrent and contemptous of ongoing efforts to solidify the bounds of humanity under the United Nations banner, and so we must undertake to resist such vile attempts. I urge a vote AGAINST the resolution tabled by Maxtopia in the so-called "World Assembly" right now to indicate protest and freedom from the shackles of such repressive Capitalist laws! Long live the United Nations!

Although I joined NationStates before, never have I felt a need to post in these forums till now.

This whole real United Nations condemning NationStates for using the so-called UN brand is a load of bull!

The United Nations is supposed to be about unity and solidarity of the world people, and NationStates, I believe, promotes that through its many nations, regions, and yes, its United Nations. There is nothing wrong with the use of the symbol, and name for these purposes, which are noble.

I find it ridiculous that the name "United Nations" is protected under Interllectual Property laws, laws which lets face it suck in the first place for all the creativity and innovation they stifle, and for all the suffering they cause those who can't afford the price that comes with using such "property", some of whom live in the most destitute parts of the world.

Attempting to force IP laws down on us here is abhorrent and contemptous of ongoing efforts to solidify the bounds of humanity under the United Nations banner, and so we must undertake to resist such vile attempts. I urge a vote AGAINST the resolution tabled by Maxtopia in the so-called "World Assembly" right now to indicate protest and freedom from the shackles of such repressive Capitalist laws! Long live the United Nations!


Hear, Hear! I agree whole-heartedly. Time to form the Coalition of the Willing and the Free. Fight this resolution! If it gets passed by some gross misfortune of fate, repeal it, repeal it! Don't surrender to tyranny, ever! Better dead than a slave!

This isn't an April Fools joke. Can you imagine the legal consequences Max Barry would face for misrepresenting Andrei Terekhov, the real United Nations Deputy Director, forging his signature and for composing a fake notice from the real United Nations?
_________________

CoN Lord Chancellor
Delegate of The Council of Narnia

OOC: How do you know that Mr. Terekhov doesn't play NationStates and actually gave Max permission to use his name on that fake document?

OOC: Hmm...Mr. Terekhov authorizing the misrepresentation of the UN? He would be risking his job for a joke...

________________

CoN Lord Chancellor
Delegate of The Council of Narnia

The World Assembly
A resolution to establish administrative parameters.

Please note that it has now been officially more than 24 hours since that resolution appeared.

Draw your own conclusions.

The Sacred Kingdom of Karianis, long dismayed by certain resolutions in the United Nations books, heartily approves of this new, bold step into the future. Let us wipe away the mistakes of the past, and stand together to build a new, better organization.

I did hear that the UN did do a similiar thing with Dr Who's UNIT supposedly the United Nations Intelligence Taskforce, from not being allowed to explain the actual acronym but still be able to use it.

So has the UN finally IRL shown us just how crap it is? or is this merely a prank?

And if the information was publically available anyway? ....

It is interesting to see if they went after any of the other games that used their symbol and initials.

Effectively it comes down to this,
-We cannot use the name because it violates the UN resolution.
-The resolution created by the offended party
-Ergo it really means,
"You cannot use our name because we said so:upyours:"

Also the organization created to safeguard human rights is stifling free speech,
Oh the Irony:rolleyes:

The Grand Holy Empire of Imota, still somewhat annoyed that the real world United Nations would do such a thing, wholeheartedly supports this proposal and hopes that the American state of Washington does not decide to follow the UN's lead.

Peace be upon all of you.

Lania I, Empress
Nolan Baguirre, Prime Minister
Weinna Gellendell, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Burgen Alsonis, Ambassador to the World Assembly

OOC: We'd like to point out, so that everyone is clear on this - that Max Barry has NO CHOICE but to abolish the NSUN, despite how you vote:

"We therefore demand that you immediately cease and desist from using the United Nations name and emblem in the above-referenced online game [NationStates], and that in the future you refrain from using or making any reference to them in connection with your activities."

--- FROM THE REAL UNITED NATIONS ---

Full legal notice:

http://www.nationstates.net/unlegal.pdf

Whoa. They make we wannabes seem like noobs...

Therefore, the World Assembly really is inevitable.

________________

CoN Lord Chancellor
Delegate of The Council of Narnia

WOW!!! we, the free people of Aurzuk are very impressed by this formal notice...

Effectively it comes down to this,
-We cannot use the name because it violates the UN resolution.
-The resolution created by the offended party
-Ergo it really means,
"You cannot use our name because we said so:upyours:"

Also the organization created to safeguard human rights is stifling free speech,
Oh the Irony:rolleyes:

Standing Ovation!!!!

This might just be me, but this just seems like another excuse for people to bring back old resolutions due to a lack of new ideas. Also, why has the site already been configured to say "World Assembly" instead of "United Nations" before we've even finished voting on it. I mean wth man?

I'm too lazy to read the whole thread, so: Is this a joke or we have now a new international body?
Because this seems to be forever, they just made it during april fools to keep us doubting... The whole site has already new elements related to the WA and not the UN.

The News page is here (http://www.nationstates.net/page=news), which is hopefully concise enough for you. In case it's not;

Yes, it was a joke, yes, it was real, and yes, we now have a new international body.

From the President of Chrimsveer

''This a unique moment in history. The U.N has collapsed, and now we stand on the brink of a new dawn for all humanity. We must not agree with this new World Assembly. It is time for mankind to stand up for itself, each coutry in it's own destinctive way. No longer will a large, corrupt organization rule us all with Resolutions in wich the small countries have no say at all. It is time to stop this maddnes. I declare my country to be a free one. I declare that my people, the people my family has bee taking care of since the country forged itself hundreds of years ago, to be free! No longer will we participate in debates with thousands of nations leaders, and no longer will we apply the decisions made by this dictatorial regime of world leaders, shoving up their believs and visions to the world!
It is time for Freedom! It is time to overthrow the World Assembly!
Be with us! Stand for your freedom, and vote against this last resolution. No matter the outcome, resign after the voting is over. The time for a new world is here, and we can do it, if we stand together in our demands, for one last time!

To all the leaders who agree with me, I say: Come and join Chrimsveer in the new region: Unity of Free Lands. Here we can live our lives, and run our countries in complete freedom, with absolutely no interfierece of the W.A.
All gouvernment types are welcome

Funny how we can oppress people in a voluntary-membership organization, no? *sigh*

The News page is here (http://www.nationstates.net/page=news), which is hopefully concise enough for you. In case it's not;

Yes, it was a joke, yes, it was real, and yes, we now have a new international body.

That proves the old saying: "Truth is stranger than fiction".

I still say it's a prank.

If the UN is still called World Assembly after the 6 of April (date voting ends on resolution), then I'll believe it's true.

Last year the prank started a day early, why not have this year be a week long one

The notice from the RL UN was not a prank. It was a legit C&D order.

Sometimes the best jokes are the unintended ones.

I'm surprised until now, the UN itself didn't get repealed anyway in a resolution. Ah well, given what day it tis now, I imagine the imploding has only begun. =^^=

ah, yes, sweet, sweet imploding. WE NEED TO STOP THIS PROPOSAL.
then we can replace the delegate system with a vice president position and continue to not have one founder ruling alone forever.
IN CONCLUSION the free and democratic republic of anarchy works DECLARES the the UN and EU suck and the WA should be stopped, although it will undoubtedly be better then the UN ever was or could be.

The Wolf Guardians;13576825']Funny how we can oppress people in a voluntary-membership organization, no? *sigh*

yea, it is, we SHOULD use it to further freedom, but such proposals as the "metric system" and global disarmerment" are pressing personal views on people.

In that case, Mr. Narnian Council Representative, I hereby eat my own shoe.

Also, vote against. I would rather not see the corpus of law removed from the books. It will make it much more difficult in the future.

*eats own shoe*

Harmalan Shandreð
Ambassador Plenipotens

Just a thought, but would it be possible to increase the character limit for WA proposals? I know this has been suggested before, and tossed out, but I can see a need for it in the circumstances of this proposal passing, as it would mean that two related resolutions that there is a general belief that they need to be replaced can be combined in a second submission, e.g. Right to Fair Trial and Habeus Corpus, Rights of Neutral States and Maritime Neutrality, Rights of Unions and Abolition of Slavery, etc.

Well what do you know, all those idiots who submitted "Abolish the UN" proposals are actually getting their wish.:rolleyes: Anyway, as the author of a resolution which will be wiped out should this pass, I have to vote AGAINST.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

To all the leaders who agree with me, I say: Come and join Chrimsveer in the new region: Unity of Free Lands. Here we can live our lives, and run our countries in complete freedom, with absolutely no interfierece of the W.A.
All gouvernment types are welcome

OOC: Go stick your regional ad in the Gameplay forum where it belongs.

I am amused to no end by the number of deleted posts in this thread.

Kudos to whoever it was that noted that it was the sig of a real rep of the UN. Good eye.

yea, it is, we SHOULD use it to further freedom, but such proposals as the "metric system" and global disarmerment" are pressing personal views on people.

I was being sarcastic. If you don't like it, leave. Universalization tends to happen across any government scheme, it seems to me. Plus, the whole POINT is to group together on legislation, in the NSU... er... WA. Really, if you disagree and feel you're under pressure from a res unreasonably, either 1)start a repeal movement or 2) Leave. There's just no excuse to be oppressed. If the repeal is defeated, deal with it, or leave. I don't understand how people IN the U... dammit, WA can be anti-WA. We don't even have any affect on non-members, which would be the only other reason to bother. We don't fight wars, we don't sanction people, nothing. The only reason to join is to band together on ideas democratically.

Methinks, anyway. I did just wake up, though.

The Wolf Guardians' delegation is absolutely correct. We of Tanular have been very disappointed by the passage of some legislation, but if we didn't want them enacted, we would resign!

To those who complain resubmitting the good proposals would be too much work, I say: if the proposals are worth having on the books, nothing would be too much work to get the good ones back. If they can't pass this time around, they obviously weren't 'good ones.'

such proposals as the "metric system" and global disarmerment""Metric System" was Repealed, and "global disarmament" is a category type, not an actual Resolution.


Well what do you know, all those idiots who submitted "Abolish the UN" proposals are actually getting their wish.Even though THE MIGHTY GATESVILLE is voting against it. I wonder if they'll still claim it as "A VICTORY FOR GATEVILLE!" if it passes...

Leetha woke amongst the rubble, painfully sober.

looking around... ...by the gods of the Renthum...

We accept with great chagrin the pitiable fact that the NSUN is no more. We do not accept that the entire body of law wrought by that body must be tossed out like so much dirty water. Bloated, wrong-headed and plain ridiculous as some of it was, there was hard work and greatness enough to be kept.

We have changed our vote to AGAINST.

--L.T.

ooc:
Even though THE MIGHTY GATESVILLE is voting against it. I wonder if they'll still claim it as "A VICTORY FOR GATEVILLE!" if it passes...Heh heh. Or claim that Gates initiated the whole kerfuffle.

Why isn't there a poll for this thread?
The options could be
For
Against

Wait...this is real?!

I must say I'm sorry that the NSUN has to go. Can't really believe the RLUN cares about the NSUN, but oh well.

This is also causing trouble within my region, incidentally named "United Nations." I'm not sure if our founder has had any contact with Max over the name, but apparently he's under the impression that the C&D also applies to our region. Can a mod comment on this?

Anyway, IC:

We'll be changing our vote to AGAINST, as all of our resolutions will be repealed as a result of this resolution (and, ironically, even our repeals will be repealed.)

Not that it really matters.

Vance Aceon
Deputy Presiding Jevian United Nations Ambassador
Deputy Presiding Jevian World Assembly Ambassador-elect, effective Sunday April 6, 2008

of The Allied Empire of Jey
perhaps, Delegate of the United Nations, for the last time.

This is also causing trouble within my region, incidentally named "United Nations." I'm not sure if our founder has had any contact with Max over the name, but apparently he's under the impression that the C&D also applies to our region. Can a mod comment on this?
I'll pass this up the line to the Admins.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Forum Moderator

Wait...this is real?!

I must say I'm sorry that the NSUN has to go. Can't really believe the RLUN cares about the NSUN, but oh well.

OOC: Hell, I'm surprised they know about us.

OOC: Hell, I'm surprised they know about us.

It did take them five years to find out.

It did take them five years to find out.

how much ya wanna bet it was a politician's child showing their parent the game that did it?

I'd take better odds on "Banned player with a grudge fails to interest the ACLU, tries the UN instead". We have had people try to make trouble for the game before; but either way the UN is solidly in the right (according to international law, at least) to ask Max not to use their name and insignia. And I've not seen the UN/WA forum this active in donkey's years, so I don't think it's actually made that much trouble. We got an April Fools' joke and a lot of player interest out of it.

I must admit I do wonder if Andrei Terekhov has an NS nation now. :D

So it's official. NSUN is no more, God rest its soul.

Shocking turns of events aside, I still have to complain about that flag. Unless the UN claims dominion over the color blue now, anything in the original robin's egg field would be an improvement.

One has to admit that this gives a little more credence to everyone who always claimed that the UN impinged on members' sovereignty. It's kind of surprising that they even can copyright themselves. Can you imagine how The West Wing would've worked if Congress decided that it was now The Federal Government™?



"Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away."

Regarding the colour; after I submitted that, the Tetragrammaton Lord מאכס decided that he'd prefer blue, partly on the grounds that the green makes the Member and Delegate tags look like buttons. I'm not sure if the UN makes claims to that sky blue colour or not; I'd suspect not, so we can make a new flag with a blue field.

I will concede that the new insignia are not perfect (I will not concede that they are "Speer-esque") and I actually have an updated version of the flag that looks better at flag sizes. It's on sky blue, too. We will be running a flag competition for people to submit their own proposals, so you can see it then (and anyone who doesn't like it is welcome to submit their own).

... and you win the Invalid Get Out of Ban Card I mentioned in the Strangers' Bar thread.

The insignia is reminiscent of the old Japan Airlines logo. To whit:

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g136/regnans/JAL.png

OOC: Too bad, but what the heck. Names are just names, right? BTW, it's a nice text Max wrote about this.

Oh, and yes, sky-blue would be much nicer indeed.

IC: The Federal Republic of Cassanos's parliament and government decided to vote NO on the issue at hand, for one of the reasons some other honorable colleagues have already brought up:
Rendering all UN-resolutions null and void would severely impact international law and treaties, and would also disregard the hard work which had been invested in creating and enforcing those resolutions.

Therefore, the Federal Republic of Cassanos supports the proposal that the World Assembly as the legal successor to the United Nations considers the resolutions passed so far as still existent and valid.

The Republic of Youteria has cast its vote, supporting the creation of a new world organization that shall lead our nations towards greatness. Our new ambassador is on the way to join the new assembly. As I write this letter to our fellow nation´s envoys, thousands of persons celebrate on Youteria main cities, glad to see the rise of a new world order. May God save Youteria and the rest of nations in the world.

Servus Domini Filii, President of Parliament.

I am shocked that the real UN would care if their name was used in a game. I have voted in approval of the World Assembly and am not very happy with the real United Nations.

General DeSanctis
Dictator of the Roge Nation of DeSanctis

Joshua A. Norton had been sitting, face down, at his desk for some time now. A thick layer of dust had covered not only him, but Joebot™ sitting beside him, who was was sitting straight back in his chair motionless. No communication had been given to the ambassadors to Zarquon Froods in some time, and the remote power generators at ZIPP that had been giving Joebot power had been shut down for quite some time. Shortly thereafter, the lights on Joebot's hard drive lit up, and slowly he rose from his chair and dusted himself off. Gently he extended his arm to wake Judge Norton.

"Ambassador." Came the deep metallic voice.

"I don't know nothn' 'bout birthin' no babies!!!!" Shouted Norton as he leapt from his chair is cloud of dust. "What? What's happened here? The logos? The World Assembly? O cruel fate, please tell me that mine eyes decieve me. Hath not I led a good life?"

"Well..." started Joebot.

"Shut up. What the devil is going on here? And how much of a raise am I getting for my pain and suffering? Answer the second question first."

"I'm receiving information from EIEIO. We are ordered to proceed as normal, until we have further instructions. There was an incident at the palace."

"The palace? What is it." questioned Norton.

"It's where the Emperor lives, but that's not important. We must conduct business as usual, and we are instructed to participate in this vote. It looks like we're starting over."

"Very well. The Empire of Zarquon Froods hereby votes FOR, and we are looking forward to the many great pieces of legislation that will flow through these halls. And by that we mean the great debates. And by that we mean defenstrations. Come Joebot, I'm starved."

The two make their way out of the hall unsure about what was happening back home.

To be honest, when i saw this for the first time, (4/1/08) i thought: Nice April Fools' Day joke, but this is legit right?

Well, FUDGE!!!!

For all those idiots out there that think, "OH, I don't see how you can be oppressed in a voluntary-organization," Shutup! It's not voluntary when your region has to have a WA Delegate in order to prevent jerks from invading and booting everyone that stayed on after the founder left the game. My region just so happens to have a history of invasions because of who we are. If there was a way to have a democratically-elected position to rule the region without needing WA membership, then I'd leave immediately to protest the World Assembly, but there is no option for rational region management without getting dicked by the WA.

So my anger might not be just about the UN name change, so what? :rolleyes:

It's not voluntary when your region has to have a WA Delegate in order to prevent jerks from invading and booting everyone that stayed on after the founder left the game. My region just so happens to have a history of invasions because of who we are.

Your region has two nations. Both were active in the past day. You could both leave for a day, refound, and drop your WA membership quite easily, secure in your foundership's protection.

Gonna need a better reason, I'm afraid.

This isn't unprecedented. The UN were quite unhappy when they found out that the original Doctor Who writers had created a United Nations Intelligence Taskforce. UNIT still exists in the Whoniverse, but now it doesn't stand for anything. I don't blame the Beeb or Mr. Barry for folding when the world government-in-waiting threatens to slap their wrists.

As a result the Psychological Comfort of Myopedia votes AYE!
--
TWP Ambassador to Region of Gay
Long Live The West Pacific! Hail Eris! Mine's a pint!

I rise to a Point of Information,

If this resolution passes, should we expect to see a large increase in our freedoms? I'd imagine the repeal of every UN regulation ever passed would result in a vast increase in civil, political, and certainly economic freedoms.

Thank you.

I rise to a Point of Information,

If this resolution passes, should we expect to see a large increase in our freedoms? I'd imagine the repeal of every UN regulation ever passed would result in a vast increase in civil, political, and certainly economic freedoms.

Thank you.

Considering that the "Book-Keeping" category is only temporary, my guess is there won't be any changes to our nations.

The central Asia delegate to the World Assembly changed the vote regarding the World Assembly resolution based on point 3 wherein all international law is declared null and void. After careful consideration on this point, as it was particularly brought to our attention in it's negative aspects by the Tannu Touvan ambassador, it is our belief that with no international law in place everything is defacto legal and therefore this particular point is to my conscience wrong and my government cannot support it.

Everything from genocide to piracy to waging aggressive war would be sanctioned by the World Assembly simply because it was not illegal. The stance of my government is that it is an imperialist ploy by the governments of the west to dominate once again the regions that have so painstakingly thrown off the shackles of their oppressors.

It is considered by my government that we can only support this resolution if provisions are made to protect the sovereignty of independent nations and regions from military or economic domination by more powerful nations and regions and that certain basic human rights are protected.

The delegate for Funen has firmly opposed the establishment of the World Assembly for now, calling for an open contest for member nations to come up with a name and a flag. Charlotte herself believes if that we have a design and contest then we would be willing to participate too.

Despite our leader's heavy college schedule and revision, we call for an establishment of a second union within NationStates if you wish. We shall be able to assist in laying the foundation stones of the 'Charlotte Pact' or 'Max Barry Union' or whatever: that goes down to the contest I hopefully come up with, if it happens.

While I concede that the category is called "Book-Keeping", the strength of this resolution is listed as "Sweeping."

It is our opinion, and our hope, that if we are starting with a clean slate then it should be reflected in our individual nation's freedom listings.

What concerns us is that we may be hit the double-whammy legislation. While we don't mind our political and civil liberties being boosted by the World Assembly (and indeed, we would campaign for it), we are concerned with economic regulation.

Say, for the purposes of discussion that the repeal on "Ban Single Hull Tankers" did not take effect. That legislation decreased our economic freedom. Now, if we toss out every piece of legislation passed, then we should see an increase in economic freedom similar to the effect of a normal repeal.

However, say the distinguished gentleman from Flibbleites is correct, and the freedoms are not changed in our individual nations. In the new World Assembly, we pass another ban on Single Hull Tankers. Now, my industry has been hit twice with restrictions on economic freedom.

That's what I was hoping to avoid.

I am a bit confused and admit I haven't read back in this thread. But, if Book-keeping as advised in a sticky post, is not a valid catagory, why is this proposal not dismissed?

I quote..............


The category BOOK-KEEPING and its sub-strengths are not a valid category.

All proposals using this temporary category will be deleted without penalty to the poster ... but please stop posting them.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Game Moderator


Am I missing something here?

Actually, this is just a one-off.

I will laugh my ass off when it turns out you are wrong.

This would only be a good April Fools joke, if the WA stayed. No one expects it to stay. ;)
I'd hate to burst your bubble, guys, but...

This is a hoax

...the tables have turned.

Well, it would be a good time, in a new era to make crazy resolutions like the 99p coin one to liven up the WA.

I say out with the old, in with the new.


Let's get rid of the combustion engine this time around. That would be cool.

But I think this WILL turn out exactly like the UN. After all, there's nothing to keep it from doing so.

The UN/WA should be republic instead of direct democratic. Delegates should make all the decisions, and even then, they should be ejected from the UN/WA for incompitence. A huge number of resolutions are ridden with grammatical errors and such (as this post possibly is (: ). They detract from the UN/WA. Also, nations frequently submit stupid proposals, just because they can't think of anything else. In short: The delegates should completely control the UN/WA. Other UN members will be indirectly involved by election of delegates.

Really? How's it representative if maybe the delegate I elect makes decisions that I would be forced to?

Anyway, I'm still neutral on this issue, what would be the major differences from the United Nations to World Assembly, instead of it's name? Will it be the same thing with just a different name that might sound cooler?

The UN/WA should be republic instead of direct democratic. Delegates should make all the decisions, and even then, they should be ejected from the UN/WA for incompitence. A huge number of resolutions are ridden with grammatical errors and such (as this post possibly is (: ). They detract from the UN/WA. Also, nations frequently submit stupid proposals, just because they can't think of anything else. In short: The delegates should completely control the UN/WA. Other UN members will be indirectly involved by election of delegates.

Such a move would certainly make the practice of region crashing and invading much more serious.

It's one thing when invader seize the delegate position and eject natives. It's quite another thing if the entire region is dependent on one sole nation to speak for it during the votes. If an army seizes enough regions, that would certainly make an impact at the WA.

Additionally, what would be the point of being in the WA if you could not be active in the WA other than to select your delegate? Particularly if the WA is somehow able to collect funds through member nations. No taxation without representation. (Granted, a tax ban of some sort is being attempted.)

POSTED April 1, 2008
Mikeswill posts 92 votes AGAINST.

UN = WA = more and more continued repeals and unpeals and promised Resolutions

Let Anarchy Rule and just keep the Endorsements to rule over our minnions in our Regions with an Iron Fist.

In the name of Peace, of course.

;p Kisses Sweeties



Reposted 22 hours ago: "Given the continued Reality of this Resolution we have reopened discussion regarding The NationStates' position of said Resolution." indicates the transformation from the playful diatribe relative to an April Fool's joke toward an intelligent discussion relative to the merits of the reality of this Resolution.


Apparently I have a Spam Clown in my Region attempting to twist my April Fools remarks i.e. minnions in our Regions, as contradictory to our World Factbook: World Factbook Entry: Welcome to NationStates, aiming to become one of the strongest ranking regions. Pro-Economy, Pro-Society, Pro-WA, Pro-Peace; Join our glory! Above all, freedom for all nations to control their own destinies in a region free from war.

Therefore I have to post on record explaining the obvious.

Additionally, as Our Region is "Pro-WA", we are compelled to vote FOR this Resolution. However, be it known that by Pro-WA we feel a duty to preserve Regional and National Sovereignty and shall have no difficulty voting AGAINST future Resolutions (as we have so often done in the past) aimed at reducing our Rights of Self-Determination.

The Mikes Hope Essence of Mikeswill
Word Assembly Delegate
NationStates Region

In that case, Mr. Narnian Council Representative, I hereby eat my own shoe.

*eats own shoe*


*Winces* Ah well that explains why you've been limping around with one foot in a shoe, the other in a sock - this afternoon...

You know, its much more preferable to eat one's hat (if you happen to be wearing one). I've had to do it before in a wager - whether or not a certain resolution would pass...but I've never had the guts to get down a shoe...especially the heel...

By the way - don't bother voting against. Its standing at nearly 5:1.

There's a bright side to it, though. This proposal has been the ULTIMATE decider, the most EFFECTIVE way of:

Bringing ALL the Conservatives into the light. ;)

________________

CoN Lord Chancellor
Delegate of The Council of Narnia

The Corporate Union of European Dominions sees this new body as a power hungry confederacy of anarchists attemting to unbalance world peace and prosperity. While we have not seen it fit to withdraw from this body, that i s only because of our faith in the fellow voter to recogize this as a fraud and promptly veto it.

I am a bit confused and admit I haven't read back in this thread. But, if Book-keeping as advised in a sticky post, is not a valid catagory, why is this proposal not dismissed?

I quote..............


The category BOOK-KEEPING and its sub-strengths are not a valid category.

All proposals using this temporary category will be deleted without penalty to the poster ... but please stop posting them.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Game Moderator


Am I missing something here?Yes, the author of this proposal is Maxtopia. Maxtopia is the nation of the creator of NationStates if he wants to bend the rules who are we to say he can't?

However, say the distinguished gentleman from Flibbleites is correct, and the freedoms are not changed in our individual nations. In the new World Assembly, we pass another ban on Single Hull Tankers. Now, my industry has been hit twice with restrictions on economic freedom.

Actually, you won't have been hit twice by that resolution's effect. A resolutions only affects nations the moment they pass, since your nation didn't exist when the single hulled tanker ban passed (for that matter, mine didn't either) your nation's stats were not affected by it.

Hmm well I couldn't go past this:

"Well I think that was the Best April Fools on NationStates ever. They fooled everyone into making them think The World Assembly was a trick..."


________________

CoN Lord Chancellor
Delegate of The Council of Narnia

Actually, you won't have been hit twice by that resolution's effect. A resolutions only affects nations the moment they pass, since your nation didn't exist when the single hulled tanker ban passed (for that matter, mine didn't either) your nation's stats were not affected by it.That reminds me... we should start recording this information... imagine the poor nation who joins three years from now and gets smacked with 100 Resolution's worth of changes... whee!

Does a little dance in celebration of Maxtopia's return.

That reminds me... we should start recording this information... imagine the poor nation who joins three years from now and gets smacked with 100 Resolution's worth of changes... whee!
*concerned stare*

Well i think its a better and more improved idea, but more to the point,

We have to start thinking of new and more improved Proposals to think about, instead of just bashing out any old garbage to get it voted on, i have saw this proposal "Ban single hulled truckers" for weeks now, and its just getting beyond a joke.

Its a wise desion thats needed to make these things happen not just some idea you think of and bash it down on paperwork.

The Corporate Union of European Dominions sees this new body as a power hungry confederacy of anarchists attemting to unbalance world peace and prosperity. While we have not seen it fit to withdraw from this body, that i s only because of our faith in the fellow voter to recogize this as a fraud and promptly veto it.

Just kidding, the UN was getting sluggish and ineffective now that we think about it

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/tzorsland.jpg

With the recent change of this body to the World Assembly, the official national representative of the TPNA (Tzorsland Puppet Nation Association) got confused at the name change and not knowing what the WA was, immediately resigned. A meeting of the TPNA was called and it was decided that we no longer need a puppet to support our view at whatever this body wants to call itself. Therefore it was resolved that Tzorsland will join the WA and lead the Glorious Region of New York to great heights in NationStates! Unfortunately, we will not be joining until after this resolution passes, because we don’t know what stat wanking effects this resolution will have and we really don’t want to know!

Unfortunately, we will not be joining until after this resolution passes, because we don’t know what stat wanking effects this resolution will have and we really don’t want to know!

Category: Book-keeping has zero effect on national stats. We're currently debating whether it should be left as a one-off, or perhaps modified to be allowed to stay on for those resolutions that don't actually have any statistical effect. We'll keep you posted.

I think the flag isn't really good.

Do a more great flag, representing the peoples and nations of the whole world, and its greatness!

The POWAAH of ExRarne seconds the request for a new flag.

Let's stick to the topic of the resolution at vote, which has nothing to do with flags.

OK. I voted for the resolution.

so someone convince me: why should i vote for or against this proposal?

Or is it more bureaucratic nonsense that always comes up in votes and wont really change anything and i can just ignore it....

If you want all prior Resolutions archived and the World Assembly given a fresh slate to work upon, vote for it. If you want to keep the UN's resolutions, vote against it. If you want to have the approbation and esteem of your peers, peruse what has already been written about it, starting with the resolution itself.

Do all of you coutries really want to be under complete control of a single body again? We should divide the power into seperate branches.

Extraneous sizing removed. To answer your question; the WA will happen whether this resolution passes or not. You can't change the name, or how it's run, or what it does. What this resolution addresses is whether or not to archive the previous resolutions.

I vote FOR the resolution.
WA success!

With a clean slate, I think we can change the tone of the WA. One matter which really should be promoted is posting proposals for debate in the WA forum BEFORE submitting them. Also, we should encourage as long as feasible process of debate, so that issues that lead to resolutions being passed, then repealed, then passed again can be hashed out and the repeal function can be kept to a minimum.

I am also beginning to suspect there may be a group of people out there who just vote "yes" on anything.

Beginning ... ?


As for forum posting, I've been promoting that since 2004. We've got a solid core here, but there will always be rogue proposals that come from outside, out of the blue. Nature of the beast, I'm afraid. At least this time we're not launching with "Axis of Evil" and 3 votes.

Perhaps something along the lines of: "Has this proposal been examined by the WA? You may wish to post it in the WA forum (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=1225) before submitting it" could be placed on the submit proposal page?

It's been proposed, and shot down at the top level. Max is adamant that players can enjoy the game without having to join the forums.

What's the problem with that? The League of Nations was an impotent, incompetent organisation populated by morons.

So errrr....what is the difference? :p

Ha ha! Now that you mention it...

Travda's position remains the same even in light of this not being a prank. The WA will be the same as the UN, so there's no valid reason to resign over the new name. As for striking the records clean: the UN was already in the process of removing nearly every law via its constant repeals before this alternate-reality UN came and started flailing and whining. Thus archiving all past laws would be merely an extension of that past trend. WA = UN. Case closed.

Also, I still like the new flag. So I'm biased.

Vokhuz Kon
Travda WA Chief Delegate

It's been proposed, and shot down at the top level. Max is adamant that players can enjoy the game without having to join the forums.
*silent acceptance*

The League of Nations?

I had a quick look around the UN website the other day, (the real one) and i found no mention of China, Sudan, Iran, Cuba or Venezuela,

Clearly they have much more important things on their mind, ie persecuting games. Apparently, "it's just a game" is going to be the Nationstates Nueremburg
defence.:confused:

However I now have a totally not sarcastic:rolleyes: question for everybody
What purpose does the real UN serve nowadays.

3. DECLARES the pages of international law to be blank;

Any time the WA passes something I don't like, I am invoking this clause to say that the pages of law are still blank even with the passage of new resolutions. :)

I had a quick look around the UN website the other day, (the real one) and i found no mention of China, Sudan, Iran, Cuba or Venezuela,

Clearly they have much more important things on their mind, ie persecuting games. Apparently, "it's just a game" is going to be the Nationstates Nueremburg
defence.:confused:

However I now have a totally not sarcastic:rolleyes: question for everybody
What purpose does the real UN serve nowadays.


OOC: How'd you miss this press release about darfur (in sudan) then? (http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2008/sgsm11496.doc.htm)
or this site? (http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/dbc.nsf/doc104?OpenForm&rc=1&cc=sdn)

Justlook here for the latest press releases (http://www.un.org/apps/pressreleases/)

The resolution The World Assembly was passed 11,609 votes to 2,259, and implemented in all UN member nations.

And yet the topic is still [AT VOTE].

So, really, what's the big change and why is everyone being a whiny "EW, CHANGE"?

Any time the WA passes something I don't like, I am invoking this clause to say that the pages of law are still blank even with the passage of new resolutions. :)
Oh, that's sneaky. Even by my standards. Admirably done, Jey.

So, really, what's the big change and why is everyone being a whiny "EW, CHANGE"?
The only real change is that with this new resolution, all the previous laws have been made null and void. If it hadn't passed, we would still be the WA, but would have retained all legislation passed under the UN.

As for the whining, there are several categories the dissenters may be classed under:

-Those who don't like being bullied by the real UN.
-Those who did not read the actual proposal.
-Those who have an inexplicable self-hatred for the WA, even though they're free to resign at any time.
-Those who wanted to retain all the previous laws.

The only group with a legitimate argument against this resolution is the last one. Sadly, the last one is also the smallest group.

I think may have passed by the biggest margin I've ever seen. Oh, and a Happy Founder's Day to everyone.

Richard York
UN Ambassador

The People's Republic of Andaras may join the WA if it decides it meets the tactical interests of our state, but reserves the right to leave if it sees bourgeois interests coming to dominate the assembly.

Any time the WA passes something I don't like, I am invoking this clause to say that the pages of law are still blank even with the passage of new resolutions. :)

OOC: It might be a bit hard to invoke, since it's not on the new lawbooks either :-)

The resolution The World Assembly was passed 11,609 votes to 2,259, and implemented in all UN member nations.
Ahem? UN members? What is the UN?
:D
Well Max,(:headbang:), is there something wrong there?:fluffle:

Justlook here for the latest press releases (http://www.un.org/apps/pressreleases/)
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Before they get onto Max, they should learn how to actually have a site working.

Also... Wolf-Shadow, This law had to pass through the fromer UN Member Nations as to allow the WA to be made... Since there was no WA till this resolution passed, the UN members were still UN members and I guess we all stood on the rubble of the once (great?) building and gave the bill a big stamp of approval. - But yes, I was wondering the same thing.

I like the idea, but I think we should get to propose are own names for it and then have a vote on what to call it.

Heres what I would call it-
World Senate

MY NATION THINNKS ITS A GOOD IDEA

Before they get onto Max, they should learn how to actually have a site working.


OOC: Beats me. The sites work for me both at home and at work, on both Apple and Windows Computers. Might be your computer. did www.reliefweb.int work for you at least?