NationStates Jolt Archive

I've sent in three proposals for everyone's consideration. It may not be as everyone likes it, but is important for all nations anyway.

Support it! I reach out to all delegates to help stabilize our fragile world.

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Emergency Powers Act

A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.


Category: Political Stability


Strength: Strong


Proposed by: Faltasia

Description: Seeing that there are several breakdowns in democratic nations, and also considering the lack of efficiency in democratic societies, this act will allow for swift decision in times of need. The Emergency Powers Act will grant leader(s) of a nation to freeze parliament, congress, or any equivalent court of representatives with immediate effect should he/she/they deem necessary to the stability of the nation.

Definition of Emergency
Any event, or pre-emptive speculation, that directly affects the military and civilian security, economic security, political security, and health security.

Application of Act
(1) It is up to the discretion of leaders to invoke this act. No prior consultation or confirmation is compulsory.

(2) No time limit of Emergency Powers. It is up to the discretion of leaders to determine the status of stability within the region/nation.

(3) Emergency Powers Act cannot be repealed or overruled by any members of represented parties when in effect.

The act will serve to protect the stability of a nation in times of crisis.

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Repeal "CHILD LABOR"

A proposal to repeal a previously passed resolution


Category: Repeal


Resolution: #14


Proposed by: Faltasia

Description: UN Resolution #14: CHILD LABOR (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: ACKNOWLEDGING the importance of children for the furthering the human race.

RECOGNIZING the increasing rates of famine across the world, that a new source of succulent flesh is in demand, with little supply. This in turn creates a need for certain nation states to farm and harvest baby flesh to solve malnutrition and several other issues relating to the lack of food.

ALSO RECOGNIZING the rising prices of oil, goods, and other resources leading to an almost unstoppable economic recession. The need for cheap labor is increasing as too many qualified and over-qualified workers result in spiraling losses for industrial companies.

This repeal would allow nation states to independently govern their rights, and reduce UN involvement at an across-the-board level. Certain nations need their children for other reasons, and need to be given independence and freedom to make necessary decisions to sustain their economy.

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Possession of All Firearms

A resolution to tighten or relax gun control laws.


Category: Gun Control


Decision: Relax


Proposed by: Faltasia

Description: This resolution will allow any citizen of any nation to trade and carry any gun, light or heavy, of all range and class, at all times, without license and background checks, with no need for registration.

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Thank you all for fighting the good fight alongside me!

for the middle one, have you been taking Mr. Johnathan Swift's writings about solving the irish problem a little too seriously?

Soylent Green is People.

Seigfried doodled on the three proposals in front of him. Offhandedly he addressed them, "The first will absolutely fail without a orbiting spacestation with the ability to destroy planets. The second does take certain satirists too seriously and makes the spin in their graves to a degree that the Catawaban Department of Energy is considering mounting magnets on their corpses and erecting generators over their graves as a form of clean energy. And the final devolves back to the glory days when a man could protect his home and castle with his faithful twenty milimeter autocannon mounted in the gatehouse...wait those days never existed....hmm...as perhaps all of this proposal should have never existed."

Seigfried leaned over the delegate next to him to show off his charicatures of certain delegates.

(OOC dude, don't troll)


Agregorn sees this as nothing short of madness or a tactless joke and will leave the UN to declare war on the nation that pushes this. I personally urge for immediate sanctions against Faltasia.

We might tolerate nations being able to enact sovereign authority over their own citizens, but eating children is utilitarianism taken too far. If we can breed cattle or soy plants or kelp, we can certainly harvest them more effectively with a higher caloric efficacy than child flesh. Finally if your sovereign nation desires to go back to apish barbarism (if they ever left that state of being), I'm sure you'll find our weapons of mass destruction will more than quench your thirst for firearms.

I encourage the peaceful and cooperative nations of the world to unite against them, peacefully or otherwise if absolutely necessary. The UN stands for the betterment of the world as a whole through united words, and those who would mock this should loose their voice.

We make it a point not to support illegal, immoral, and down right stupid proposals.

Nigel S Youlkin
USoP UN Ambassador

I wanted to repeal child labor, but not at the price of that piece of crap :D

There is no need for the Emergency Powers Act. To my knowledge, there is nothing stopping a nation from setting up a system of government in which the leader may be granted extensive emergency powers. Even if the issues mentioned by this resolution needed to be addressed, altering governmental procedure is outside of the UN's jurisdiction.

Regarding Repeal "Child Labor," Crepidon agrees with the general consensus reached by the representatives that spoke earlier and does not wish to spend any more time addressing this ludicrous proposal.

As for the Possession of All Firearms resolution, while Crepdion is an advocate of smaller government and greater personal freedom (and responsibility), there is a limit. It's hard to say where that limit is, which is why the matter should be left in the hands of individual governments. The UN has no business mandating government in this instance.

OOC:

I apologize if my reaction to these three proposals is construed as trolling. I did not intend to provoke any adverse reaction, in fact I censored a few of my more annoyed thoughts at these proposals. I think a part of my reaction has to do with a lack of respect. Yes, I do know this is only fantasy, a game, we all participate in, but since we do quasi-roleplay the NSUN it's kind of an insult when proposals of this caliber are thrown at us.

If these three proposals are serious they only make sense from the point of view of some insane anarcharic state where sociopathy and misanthropy make citizens giddy with delight. If these are satire, they are poorly done. I've read A Modest Proposal and studied other forms of satire. I personally detest satire that does not at the end reveal that it is all a joke and suggest some worthwhile solution. Otherwise, that kind of satire is no better than simple sarcasm meant to inflate the ego of the writer and do nothing for the wider world. There is a reason people thought Jonathan Swift was a sadistic madman when he wrote it, and why people still think it today. At the end of the pamphlet, Swift does identify the problems that must be addressed by the British people in regards to the plight of the Irish. However he is still so in character as the 'well-reasoned cannibal' that most people gloss over the fact that the cat has escaped the bag and is attempting to tap dance and hold up the reality of what Swift is trying to say.

These proposals are not well reasoned or well written and are not in the good intentions of the majority of UN member states. Perhaps I have not been a member of the UN long enough to see so many of these trash proposal that my feathers are no longer ruffled but are, in fact, plucked out. I write my responses to proposals and resolution debates very much in character. I censor and filter out any really mean responses before they come from the mouth of Ambassador Seigfried. What I said is snarky, sarcastic, but am I not allowed that?

There are proposals that can be offered constructive criticism for their betterment that I may never support. And then there are blatant shows of apathy, that cannot be dignified with coherent and dilberate consideration. This is one of the latter.

I know I probably should follow the old adage that 'if I have nothing nice to say, it's better to say nothing at all.' But sometimes I cannot do that. Sometimes people need to be told that they have made a massive and fatal leap of ignorance. Maybe people have let them go on so long with smiles and nods.

If anything, I've come to suspect that the swarm of junk proposals that I've seen in my short time are a form of trolling, trying to set off those of us that like being armchair delegates and enjoying having a bit of legislative fun.

These proposals seem like a joke, but we'll give them the benefit of the doubt and treat them as serious ones.

Description: Seeing that there are several breakdowns in democratic nations, and also considering the lack of efficiency in democratic societies,

Really? Like what?

this act will allow for swift decision in times of need. The Emergency Powers Act will grant leader(s) of a nation to freeze parliament, congress, or any equivalent court of representatives with immediate effect should he/she/they deem necessary to the stability of the nation.

Individual nations can do this already on their own, if they like. There's no need for international legislation to dictate this.

Definition of Emergency
Any event, or pre-emptive speculation, that directly affects the military and civilian security, economic security, political security, and health security.

Wow, that's broad. Really broad. I'm a security agent, and even I think this is too broad.

Application of Act
(1) It is up to the discretion of leaders to invoke this act. No prior consultation or confirmation is compulsory.

(2) No time limit of Emergency Powers. It is up to the discretion of leaders to determine the status of stability within the region/nation.

(3) Emergency Powers Act cannot be repealed or overruled by any members of represented parties when in effect.

Again, entirely too broad and open-ended, even for an intelligence/security guy like me.

The act will serve to protect the stability of a nation in times of crisis.

Ah, yes, the rallying cry of dictators and tyrants everywhere. Opposed.

Repeal "CHILD LABOR"

The Altanari delegation has spoken out, at length, about our opposition to child labor and I see no need to beat that dead horse again. However, this clause just jumped out at me:

RECOGNIZING the increasing rates of famine across the world, that a new source of succulent flesh is in demand, with little supply. This in turn creates a need for certain nation states to farm and harvest baby flesh to solve malnutrition and several other issues relating to the lack of food.

After careful consideration, my response to that is: are you out of your freaking mind?

Opposed.

Description: This resolution will allow any citizen of any nation to trade and carry any gun, light or heavy, of all range and class, at all times, without license and background checks, with no need for registration.

Altanar is currently in the process of enacting concealed carry laws and loosening our restrictions on firearms ownership. However, we don't see the need or benefit in allowing any of our citizens to own any freaking weapon they want. Handgun, sure. Shotgun, sure. Mk 19 Grenade Launcher, I don't think so. As a security officer, the idea that any citizen should be able to have any freaking gun that they want, with no regulation whatsoever, is absolutely appalling to me. Also, our delegation would rather see gun laws left to individual nations. Opposed.

Three strikes; it would appear your ideas are out.

Markus Paulanus, Deputy Ambassador for Security and Military Issues

As the UN Delegate for the Region to Empire of Schuyler, I am appalled and offended by the horrible proposels put before the NS world.

The three proposels that I just viewed were stupid and pointless. Child Labor?! Do you have any idea how totalitarian you sound?

The RES is completely against these proposels and only hopes that this is the general publics opinion as well!

Signed,

Roddyville
UN Delegate
Region to Empire of Schuyler

Agregorn is brimming with joy caused by the reaction of this post. It's one thing to be aware of the idiocy of this world. But hope surmounts when all nations unite against stupidity. Many times, we've felt the UN was too liberal and paternalistic. Times like this remind our great nation of the brotherhood we share with other UN nations and our resolve against extreme stupidity.

I ask for the resignation of Faltasia's ambassador, and sanctions placed upon Faltasia until such a time that they apologize for this offensive proposal.

I ask for the resignation of Faltasia's ambassador, and sanctions placed upon Faltasia until such a time that they apologize for this offensive proposal.

Ironic that you should put this at the end of a post applauding our recognition of stupidity. While I find the three proposals deplorable, sanctions are not something to be bandied about haphazardly.

While I find the three proposals deplorable, sanctions are not something to be bandied about haphazardly.

Fair enough. The UN is, after all, a peaceful gathering of ideologies for the betterment of all sentient life on this planet. We shouldn't be so quick to act hostile towards flagrant stupidity. We cheerfully rescind our request for sanctions, though remain cold in relations towards Faltasia.

Dear all,

Thank you for your comments on the proposal. While I myself understand that it is totally ridiculous, I felt that it was necessary to raise the debate to have things talked about. I understand that some of you might think that it is too far fetched, but I just want to remind all of you that the UN needs to be able to at least, lend an eye to whatever voices that may be.

Feel free to not vote for these proposals, for I am glad that you guys have taken the time to hear/read it out in the first place. THAT is the true practice of UN. Thank you all. I'll see you in the future with better resolutions.

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Emergency Powers Act
A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.
We already have laws in place for such and do not need the UN to come in and tell us how to preserve our nation or what laws we apply when.

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Repeal "CHILD LABOR"
A proposal to repeal a previously passed resolution
Category: Repeal
RECOGNIZING the increasing rates of famine across the world, that a new source of succulent flesh is in demand, with little supply. This in turn creates a need for certain nation states to farm and harvest baby flesh to solve malnutrition and several other issues relating to the lack of food.We would not put it past you humans to eat your own young and if you want to do it go on and do so.

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Possession of All Firearms
A resolution to tighten or relax gun control laws.
Category: Gun Control
Decision: Relax
Proposed by: Faltasia
Description: This resolution will allow any citizen of any nation to trade and carry any gun, light or heavy, of all range and class, at all times, without license and background checks, with no need for registration. We find it is needed to limit and restrict who can carry weapons and what type weapons might be carried by individual citizens so this we do not support and will never support it or anything close to it. Nations have a duty to protect their citizens and allow them self protection but citizens must follow laws set on them or the system fails to protect anyone.

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Thank you all for fighting the good fight alongside me! I suggest you take the documents you wrote these on to the toilet next time you feel moved and used them there... I however will not be there with you as these stink.. more than I might after eating a good helping of fartalot beans...