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This act was proposed to discourage use of Recreational Drugs.
This act declares that:
1. Marijuana, cocaine, methane fedamine, tobacco, liquor, antidepressents, Barbiturates, Benzodiazepines, Deliriants, Dissociative anaesthetics, and Stimulants are illegal unless perscribed by a certified doctor.

2. Drug abusers will have at least 6 months, counseling, and rehabilitation.

3. It is illegal to sell or trade Marijuana, cocaine, methane fedamine, tobacco, liquor, antidepressents, Barbiturates, Benzodiazepines, Deliriants, Dissociative anaesthetics, and Stimulants unless you are a certified doctor.

This act encourages:
Free rehabilitation and counseling for drug abusers.

This act discourages:
1. Viewing drug abusers as mere criminals.
2. Selling of recreational drugs unless a certified doctor.
3. Circulation of drugs throughout the country.

Methamphetamine

Not even mentioning that this proposal is contradictory to an existing resolution, we would like to remark that it does not seem a good idea to include socially accepted items like tobacco and alcohol in a proposal like this; culinarily speaking, this would be a serious decline.
Moreover, we would like to note that doctors do not generally sell drugs; they prescribe them, but the chemists sell them. You might want to specify that this selling is to the general public, as otherwise, manufacturers would not be able to sell their drugs to chemists.

Need I say more?

I agree except for

2. Drug abusers will have at least 6 months, counseling, and rehabilitation.


And

This act encourages:
Free rehabilitation and counseling for drug abusers.

This act discourages:
1. Viewing drug abusers as mere criminals.

For the following would be a more effective and less costly alternative
because Rehabilitation is BS and should be thrashed

I say we lock up the drug abusers and teach them a harsh lesson they won't forget.....or just kill them for scientific studies...

Alan:UGL delegate

No, not unless you intend to ban alcohol as well, which is far more addictive and harmful than some drugs listed there.

i will never support the banning of booze and pot...

No, not unless you intend to ban alcohol as well, which is far more addictive and harmful than some drugs listed there.

First, I think you need to read the proposal again, as it is included.
Second, I think that there are things far worse than alcohol on there. Alcohol is not the most addictive one on there either.
Anyhow, it is an illegal proposal, as there is already an unrepealed resolution on mind altering substances.

Respectfully,

The Count of Saint-Germain à Clerques,
National Emissary to the NSUN,
for the Principality of Beaucalsradt

First, I think you need to read the proposal again, as it is included.
Second, I think that there are things far worse than alcohol on there. Alcohol is not the most addictive one on there either.
Anyhow, it is an illegal proposal, as there is already an unrepealed resolution on mind altering substances.

Respectfully,

The Count of Saint-Germain à Clerques,
National Emissary to the NSUN,
for the Principality of Beaucalsradt

My apologies, I only skimmed over it, that was stupid of me

"This resolution is still in contradiction of NSUN Resolution #191: the UN Drug Act (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12131355&postcount=192). The Shazbotdom Empire will thus not support this if it comes to a vote."

If you make the making and selling of drugs and alcohol illegal it encourages the criminals to take over the making and selling of alcohol and drugs, this could have disasterous implications; an increase in violence and, seeing as the criminals behind this trade will make fortunes, they will therefore be able to bribe people in high positions; leading to an increase in corruption.

No, the making and selling of drugs and alcohol must be legal. Although people should be aware of the consequences of abusing these narcotics.

Dictated but not signed.

Ronald Roberts
Premier of the United States of Cawales.

Have any of you considered the fact that this contradicts both Fair Sentencing Act (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11973198&postcount=181) and UN Drug Act (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12131355&postcount=192), thus making it illegal?

Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky
Delegate, Antarctic Oasis
Chairman, Yeldan Committee For State Security

Edit: Shazbotdom beat me to it.

Have any of you considered the fact that this contradicts both Fair Sentencing Act (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11973198&postcount=181) and UN Drug Act (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12131355&postcount=192), thus making it illegal?

Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky
Delegate, Antarctic Oasis
Chairman, Yeldan Committee For State Security

Edit: Shazbotdom beat me to it.

OOC:
Well I missed the Fair Scentencing Act one.

Edit: Shazbotdom beat me to it.

OOC: And I beat Shaz when I posted this very proposal in the Silly Proposals thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13399729&postcount=5627)

OOC: And I beat Shaz when I posted this very proposal in the Silly Proposals thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13399729&postcount=5627)

OOC:
Yeah but your just that damn good. Darn you Flib.

This act was proposed to discourage use of Recreational Drugs.
This act declares that:
1. Marijuana, cocaine, methane fedamine, tobacco, liquor, antidepressents, Barbiturates, Benzodiazepines, Deliriants, Dissociative anaesthetics, and Stimulants are illegal unless perscribed by a certified doctor. We could list many more we would want on this list as some of these are less a threat to us than those we might ban... so we believe it is up to each nation to deal with this issue and protect their own citizens based on the general genetics of their citizenship.. Thus if we ban salt water usage in our borders but use cocaine in it's place then it up to us to know what is and what is not good for the health of our citizens and ban those that harm them....

2. Drug abusers will have at least 6 months, counseling, and rehabilitation.We believe there is a resolution that leaves it up to nations to punish criminals and until that is repealed this violates that as it takes away nations rights to punish drug abusers as they see fit.

3. It is illegal to sell or trade Marijuana, cocaine, methane fedamine, tobacco, liquor, antidepressents, Barbiturates, Benzodiazepines, Deliriants, Dissociative anaesthetics, and Stimulants unless you are a certified doctor.Same point here as in #1 we may not feel these are harmfull to our citizenship thus allow them but ban others.

This act encourages:
Free rehabilitation and counseling for drug abusers.Here nothing is free somebody has to pay for it.... There is no welfare here if you can work you work to get what you need if you can't then you end up in prison a criminal and have to work or we loose the key to your cell.

This act discourages:
1. Viewing drug abusers as mere criminals.Bull Manure they are just that and we will deal with them as such..
2. Selling of recreational drugs unless a certified doctor.Since our doctors serve the nation then they follow national laws and don't sale drugs to anyone... They prescribed drugs needed by people for health reasons and certified persons then sale those drugs to those who can pay for them..
3. Circulation of drugs throughout the country.How does it discourage this? You give no means to punish those who will abuse the laws and use illegal drugs an out since by this we can't lock them up.. have to send them to rehab for at least six and talk to them telling them this is a no no don't do it again... Here we lock them up and if they can't get drugs they soon get dry and with hope won't need them again. If we set them free and they are found using again then they can forget ever getting out of prison here as we don't believe in third changes in this matter. If they commit other crimes with the drug abuse they won't get a second change... to abuse drugs.

We must protest this as our country does not subscribe to your theories in this matter. Not only does this proposal ignore the fact that a prior proposal allows such activity, but it provides no 'teeth' to back up this legislation.

Besides, it would be detrimental to our growing Marijuana and Hashish trade (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=548348).

Methane fedamine? Does that come from cows or something?