NationStates Jolt Archive

I dislike this resolution, and while it didn't create the 'OMG FLOOD' effect...er...

Here's the dreaded resolution (http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_past_resolutions/start=202). Not planning on submitting it just yet, just drafting it and seeing any problems.


AFFIRMING the NSUN's commitment to promoting economics,

HAVING CONSIDERED that the NSUN is composed of two economic ideologies, one of capitalism, and one of socialism,

NOTING WITH REGRET that the UN Economic Prize may end up being awarded to economists advocating one of the two ideologies, thereby offically backing such ideology and suggesting that said ideology must be implemented globally to "improve the lives of people",

UPSET that having an monetary award attached to this Economic Prize provides a conflict of interest, with economists working not for the good of society, but rather for their own self-interest, to try and win the Prize.

REALZING that there may exist a 'conflict-of-interest' between private donors and the United Nations Awards Committee, in which private donars would give money to the UNAC, and the UNAC will back whatever political ideology the private donars believe in,

OBSERVING that having the UN award prizes such as this may lead disunity and conflict in the United Nations,

WISHING to avoid these fears,

The NSUN therefore,

ABOLISHES the United Nations Awards Committee

and REPEALS Resolution #203.

(OOC comment)


You need to fix the spelling in your seond use of the word 'donors' (which you have, there, as 'donars'...)

The 'ABOLISHES' clause is arguably new legislation in a repeal, and therefore illegal (Admittedly there was a similar clause in the repeal of 'UN Patent Law', but I was only one of several people who argued against the legality of that too...), and is unnecessary anyway because as awarding the Economics Prize is the only role that the committee in question has been given so far the repeal would result in it being shut down anyway.

our economy is not based on either socialism nor on capitalism. It is based upon the Wawa. We acquire our currency from fallen enemies and we are able to purchase many products or services based upon how our warriors have been successful in battling the enemy.

as awarding the Economics Prize is the only role that the committee in question has been given so far the repeal would result in it being shut down anyway
Really? Committees that no longer have any role get shut down? I thought we were simulating the behavior of governments :D

Proposal suggested.

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_proposal1/match=economics

Really? Committees that no longer have any role get shut down? I thought we were simulating the behavior of governments :D
Yes. It's possible to give existing committees extra roles in resolutions after those that actually set them up, in which case repeal of those original resolutions would leave the committes in existence with only those added duties, but if a committee is only used by a single resolution and that gets repealed then the committee is closed down.

Repeal resubmitted. Hope that you approve.

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_proposal1/match=economics

A few general points:
the UN has no commitment to 'promoting economics' anymore than it does any social science, nor any academic discipline in general;
almost every facet of the assumption that capitalism and socialism are wholly exclusive and incompatible, that they are concrete, and that nations (I assume you mean) fall into either one bracket or the other is disputable;
not that it's 100% relevant, but I strongly suspect a survey of member nations would reveal the vast majority to have mixed economies;
given the sums of money available to analysts in the private sector, I think it's unlikely someone would pursue a comparatively lower paid academic career solely in the hope of the cash associated with the UNEP: any trained economist can earn absolute stacks, without an original thought;
'donors' is spelt with two o's;
whether or not winners advocate one of these mythical ideologies, a bigger problem would surely come from potentially endorsing critiques of UN-sanctioned policies: I'm all for self-scrutiny, but sticking a medal on it?

I used to be against this because I was concerned about the latter point, but I've moved away from it. The bigger problem is that economics is just one discipline in a plethora of them, and it would be facile for the UN to attempt to recognise every single one; hence, we'd probably support a repeal that argued more (as, I believe, the Jevians were intending to do) that the Prize should be scrapped as unfairly privileging one particular academic pursuit where numerous others are equally worthy of recognition.

On a totally unrelated point, it's mid-December: who is the 2007 winner?

-- George Madison
UN Ambassador and Secretary of State for UN Affairs
The Democratic States of Quintessence of Dust

And does anyone else think that would make for a suitably silly RP...?

On a totally unrelated point, it's mid-December: who is the 2007 winner?We should say it's Felix, for spearheading his nation's wildly successful (and not at all ham-handed) pursuit of free-market economics (http://z11.invisionfree.com/Antarctic_Oasis/index.php?showtopic=637).

Either that, or whoever it was that killed ACCEL. He deserves a medal.

And does anyone else think that would make for a suitably silly RP...?Interesting idear. Could we get away with posting it here, or should it be on the NationStates forum?

Either that, or whoever it was that killed ACCEL. He deserves a medal.
I fear I may have been responsible for the demise of ACCEL as well. Their downward spiral began shortly after I became a member.

Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky
Chairman, Yeldan Committee For State Security

I fear I may have been responsible...An effort worthy of a true fifth column, Comrade Felix. Our congratulations.

Leetha Talone
UN Ambassador

Interesting idear. Could we get away with posting it here, or should it be on the NationStates forum?Either/or, I should think.

Um ... I know I should be as bold and unashamed of my lifestyle choice as the rest of you, but I feel a bit inhibited performing full-blown RP in front of non-RPers. Honest, wouldn't it be more comfortable to do it among our own kind in NS?

In the beginning of the fifth article, REALIZING is missing the letter "I" between the "L" and "Z".