NationStates Jolt Archive


The Pension Fund

Freakvl
28-11-2007, 02:22
Please consider the Pension Fund Proposal. It will benefit your retiring government officials and military leaders.
Freakvl
28-11-2007, 03:08
www.nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=pension%20fund
Gobbannium
28-11-2007, 04:34
Or inline:


Category: Human Rights
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Freakvl

Description: Description: DEFINING for the purposes of this resolution, a Pension for all retiring government officials and military leaders who have contributed 20 consecutive years of service.

AWARE that member nations may not wish to participate.

OBSERVING that a Pension is beneficial for individuals that have provided support to our Nations.

CONCLUDING that a Pension fund will benefit retiring government and military leaders

THEREFORE HEREBY MANDATING all member nations to follow this resolution that is:

§1 ENACTING that nations put immediately into effect laws providing retired government and military leaders a pension. This will be funded by 1% of all tax dollars go towards the fund.

§2 DEFINING a Pension as a fixed amount, other than wages, paid at regular intervals to a person or to the person's surviving dependents in consideration of past services, age, merit, poverty, injury or loss sustained, etc.

§3 URGING member nations to consider imposing sanctions on nations who do not follow similar courses of action.

§4 ADVISING each member nation to consider imposing sanctions on nations who do follow similar courses of action.

REITERATING, finally, that member nations to start a Pension fund for retiring government officials and military leaders with 20 years of consecutive service.

We have to say we have some trouble regarding this particular piece of featherbedding as a Human Rights issue, particularly when such enormous sums as 1% of the total tax take (if we understand the badly mangled sentence correctly) are involved. Under those circumstances, we reject outright clauses 3 and 4.
The Dourian Embassy
28-11-2007, 05:24
What is it with people urging people to consider sanctions these days.

You know that I could say the total payout for a pension is 1 penny, and keep/divert the remaining collected funds elsewhere?

Wait a minute, does it actually say we should consider sanctions on people who do or don't follow this resolution? That's a first.
[NS]Ardchoilleans
28-11-2007, 05:43
So if a particularly bloody, dictatorial leader has oppressed our nation for 20 years, and our citizens have finally got around to hanging him by his own entrails from the nearest skyscraper, our new government will have to put 1% of its total tax intake aside to pay his dependents, as, plainly, he sustained an injury in the position?
Texan Hotrodders
28-11-2007, 05:47
I'd like to suggest that the argumentation in the proposal consist of more than what boils down to, "It sure would be nice for folks to have a pension."

Shouldn't you at least try to justify it by some ethical reasoning, or perhaps practical reasoning?

Former Minister of UN Affairs
Edward Jones
The Most Glorious Hack
28-11-2007, 07:25
Wrong category. TANSTAAFL.
Ariddia
28-11-2007, 12:03
TANSTAAFL.

OOC: This isn't about a "free lunch", it's about rewarding hard work and service.

IC:

OBSERVING that a Pension is beneficial for individuals that have provided support to our Nations.

CONCLUDING that a Pension fund will benefit retiring government and military leaders

Not in Ariddia, it won't. We have a moneyless economy.


THEREFORE HEREBY MANDATING all member nations to follow this resolution that is:

§1 ENACTING that nations put immediately into effect laws providing retired government and military leaders a pension. This will be funded by 1% of all tax dollars go towards the fund.

The grammar of that last sentence is atrocious. Also, we don't use dollars. Also, we have a moneyless economy.


§3 URGING member nations to consider imposing sanctions on nations who do not follow similar courses of action.

§4 ADVISING each member nation to consider imposing sanctions on nations who do follow similar courses of action.

I think I speak for most of us here when I say: "Huh?".


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