NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: I'm not sure what category to put this in and whether or not it is any good.

Second Draft:

UN Alcohol Act

NOTING the intoxicating properties of ethanol, refered to by the general populace of the world as alcohol.

ALSO noting the popularity of beverages containing said substance, hereby refered to as alcohol.

BEING aware of the possibility of death and/or injury from over indulgence in alcohol

DEFINING a shot of alcohol as 30 mL, a dram of alcohol as 3 mL, blood-alcohol content as the mL of alcohol in a citizen's blood per 1000 mL, alcohol by volume as the percent of alcohol in an alcoholic beverage

MANDATING that all labels on beverages which contain alcohol have the alcohol by volume on the label.

REQUIRING that all UN member nations set a minimum purchasing age and consumption age of alcohol and a minimum BAC level at which a citizen cannot legally drive an automobile.

FORBIDDING the serving of alcohol to a consumer whose BAC would go above 0.25.

ALLOWING UN member states to ban alcohol althogether and create other laws relating to alcohol

First Draft:

UN Alcohol Act

NOTING the intoxicating properties of ethanol, refered to by the general populace of the world as alcohol.

ALSO noting the popularity of beverages containing said substance, hereby refered to as alcohol.

BEING aware of the possibility of death and/or injury from over indulgence in alcohol

DEFINING a shot of alcohol as 30 mL, a dram of alcohol as 3 mL, blood-alcohol content as the mL of alcohol in a citizen's blood per 1000 mL, alcohol by volume as the percent of alcohol in an alcoholic beverage

MANDATING that all labels on beverages which contain alcohol have the alcohol by volume on the label

FORBIDDING the serving of more than 15 mL of alcohol to a citizen who cannot write an A or other letter designated by each UN state's government. This means that no more than 300 mL of 5% beer can be served to a citizen who meets this qualification. This is to minimize injuries and/or deaths caused by over consumption of alcohol.

REQUIRING that all UN member nations set a minimum purchasing age and consumption age of alcohol and a minimum BAC level at which a citizen cannot legally drive an automobile.

ALLOWING UN member states to ban alcohol althogether and create other laws relating to alcohol.

"We do not see how this is something that the United Nations needs to deal with. I'm sure that Alcohol limiting laws should be a national soverignty issue. Also, may we note that a 'shot' isn't just what you say. There are also such things as Torpedo Shots, which are longer and slightly narrower, but have more mL in them."

We beleive that there should be some foundation for alcohol laws in the UN and that this helps to prevent deaths and/or injuries caused by consumption of alcohol world-wide.

If alcohol is a matter of national sovereignity, why aren't other drugs, or do you feel they are a matter of national sovereignity issues as well?

The term 'shot' shall be amended to a 'shot of alcohol' and the term 'dram' shall be ammended to a 'dram of alcohol'. These terms are defined in order for these terms to be able to be used for the same amount of alcoholic beverage worldwide. In Germany a shot is 20 mL while in the US it is 25 to 35 mL.

Also, this allows alcohol legislation to be brought to the eyes of some states who may have ignored it until now.

OOC: I'm not sure what category to put this in and whether or not it is any good.

UN Alcohol Act

FORBIDDING the serving of more than 15 mL of alcohol to a citizen who cannot write an A or other letter designated by each UN state's government. This means that no more than 300 mL of 5% beer can be served to a citizen who meets this qualification. This is to minimize injuries and/or deaths caused by over consumption of alcohol.

REQUIRING that all UN member nations set a minimum purchasing age and consumption age of alcohol and a minimum BAC level at which a citizen cannot legally drive an automobile.

ALLOWING UN member states to ban alcohol althogether and create other laws relating to alcohol.

No no no.. Write a letter A? Gibberish. If I had no hands I'd still want to drink (in fact, moreso). If I were a clever alcoholic I'd practise writing whatever the letter in question was while drunk.

Why not just a breathalizer or whatever? Much more effective way of gauging the alcohol in the subject's system and also it gives you the precise ability to tell if they're breaking the law because you can read the percentage of alcohol in their blood. So next draft, I'd ditch the alphabet jazz and go with something more fair and reliable.

About the only parts of this whole resolution I could formally support would be the requirements related to purchasing alcohol and measures to crack down on drunk driving.

Keep on working at it, perhaps someday we will be able to support your proposal.

- Gordon Tills, Roseariean Ambassador

After leaving the bar closely behind Darth Ron Paul and just before Glog hurt himself with Darth Ron Paul's lightsaber, Emperor Ceasar staggered over to this new thread and said "hic" before passing out himself.

This is some of the most ridiculous legislation I've seen as of yet.

We do not need the UN playing Nanny to the citizens of each nation state, that is not the job of the United Nations to prevent people from practicing free will and pursuing freedom to the ends which they desire. The United Nations is a body designed to create partnerships between nations, not restrict liberties of it's member citizens.

I will not support this legislation, and will work hard to create opposition!

If alcohol is a matter of national sovereignity, why aren't other drugs, or do you feel they are a matter of national sovereignity issues as well?
Actually, I think they are a matter of national sovereignty thanks to previous legislation sweetie. Here we go:


2) AFFIRMS the right of UN member states to determine their own laws with regard to the legality of any activity involving recreational drugs, including but not limited to the consumption, cultivation, preparation, possession, exchange, and distribution of recreational drugs by any individual or group of individuals, within their own jurisdiction;

I don’t know much about biology but I think the definition of “recreational drug” in the UN Drug Act is inclusive of alcohol thus your attempt to control laws governing consumption is illegal.

FORBIDDING the serving of more than 15 mL of alcohol to a citizen who cannot write an A or other letter designated by each UN state's government.

:confused: So people who have paralyzed arms can't drink? I've heard of the scarlet letter, but this is a bit too much. And think of G l o g!

:confused: So people who have paralyzed arms can't drink? I've heard of the scarlet letter, but this is a bit too much. And think of G l o g!

Or for that matter people who were born without arms, or lost theirs in a tragic accident.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

Roseariea, Blue Booted Bobbies, Flibbleites:

OK, OK. Breathalizer instead of writing. I just thought it would be too expensive to have a breathalizer in every pub across all the nations in the UN.

Ithania:

I did not see UN Drug Act when I was looking over past resolutions. Thanks for pointing that out. Does the UN Drug Act define recreational drug?

GeeDub 43:

Due to the effect of alcohol to deminish the ability for one to make sound judgement we need this law.

Everyone:

Here is the new draft, I will edit it above the first:

UN Alcohol Act

NOTING the intoxicating properties of ethanol, refered to by the general populace of the world as alcohol.

ALSO noting the popularity of beverages containing said substance, hereby refered to as alcohol.

BEING aware of the possibility of death and/or injury from over indulgence in alcohol

DEFINING a shot of alcohol as 30 mL, a dram of alcohol as 3 mL, blood-alcohol content as the mL of alcohol in a citizen's blood per 1000 mL, alcohol by volume as the percent of alcohol in an alcoholic beverage

MANDATING that all labels on beverages which contain alcohol have the alcohol by volume on the label.

REQUIRING that all UN member nations set a minimum purchasing age and consumption age of alcohol and a minimum BAC level at which a citizen cannot legally drive an automobile.

FORBIDDING the serving of alcohol to a consumer whose BAC would go above 0.25.

ALLOWING UN member states to ban alcohol althogether and create other laws relating to alcohol

Ithania:
I did not see UN Drug Act when I was looking over past resolutions. Thanks for pointing that out. Does the UN Drug Act define recreational drug?
Indeedy it does and I think ethanol does fall under it as it is a central nervous system depressant:

DEFINES for the purposes of this resolution, a "recreational drug" as a chemical substance whose primarily purpose is to act upon the central nervous system where it alters brain function, resulting in temporary or permanent changes in perception, mood, consciousness and/or behavior;
I can’t be certain but if ethanol falls under this as I think then your attempt to regulate exchange and consumption of beverages containing ethanol within a nation would be considered illegal under the rules for contradiction.

Still have the problem of the UN Drug Act.

Sir Albert staggers in, sensing an outrageous travesty of a proposal is under discussion ,"le'mme see.....belch....no..no, no, no ,no hic, no, no, no, noooooooooooooooooooooo"

Pausing for breath, purple faced and clearly irritated, "this is clearly a national issue, Bahgum will oppose this unwanted, obtrusive, interference into Bahgumian sovereign rights. The right to sink a pint or six and not worry about political correctness is enshrined in the Bahgumian constitution"

Peering at the notes from the rest of the discussion,"also, may I ask what the UN drag act has to do with alcohol? Are we now going to legislate on club ladies nights?".

Because Prohibition worked so well, right?

"REQUIRING that all UN member nations set a minimum purchasing age and consumption age of alcohol and a minimum BAC level at which a citizen cannot legally drive an automobile."

Now, I feel this legislation is toothless. I mean it allows for a minimun age to be set at any age, meaning every nation who wished to avoid this law could set the levels of their law as an extremely young age and a extremely high BAC as minimum, making the law itself a pointless piece of paper.

On the other hand, this issue would interfere with national sovernity if even taken in the manner in which it is written.

So then Evoinia, though understanding and agreeing with the general principle cannot suppot this legislation. We will however independantly create our own laws on this manner with discussion between our Regional Allies.

To the delegate from Evoinia, UN proposals cannot set such specifics as age limits, due to the fact that not everyone in the UN is human. You or I might be, but not everyone is. Twenty-one would be a terrible age limit for a race who doesn't reach maturity until they're fifty years old. or, alternatively, what if they reach physical maturity after five years of age, and die at age twenty? Then twenty-one would be a rather silly limit, now wouldn't it?

I, personally, am rather ambivalent about this proposal. My nation already has laws in place regarding alcohol, fairly strict ones, at that. Or, to put it another way, we're only allowed one drink a week. If this does somehow make it to a vote, I'd probably abstain.

Serifina Karin
Ambassador to the United Nations
Sacred Kingdom of Karianis

We dip baby soothers in our wine before passing it onto our teething babies. It soothes them. Is that too young for the weaklings? We breed warrior races! Alcohol brings character! Ironically, we do not have many alcoholics, they wouldn't be able to survive our daily trainings. Perhaps the weaklings could imitate our system instead of making up laws preventing others from enjoying the good life and living a long and healthy life! Hooah!