NationStates Jolt Archive

This wood be the first draft proposal with the following claws:

1}create a commission which will standardize the railways and traincars so that everyone can use them.

2}have the international railway lines connect with each nations capital and at least 1 major port and any city that has at least 1 million population.

3}create ships that can transport these trains so that people can travel from island nations to continents until technology exists to connect these lines underwater.

4}these trains can be used for frate and tourists.

5}create bridges linking continents if technology makes it allowed or underwater tunnels depending on the feesible studies that the commission would conduct.

real world examples are the tunnel linking France and England. Or making a bridge linking Alaska to Russia. Trains could be like the snazzy bullet trains in Japan for tourists and something more bulk for frate which can maybe transfered on 18 wheelers or other trains.

this is draft 1.0 proposed by Emperor Ceasar of the ShogunKhans! If I left out anything important we can add it in together. Hooah

The many nations in the NSUn aren't all on the same version of Earth, and in some cases aren't even on Earth at all... and don't all have the same ('modern') levels of technology. That would complicate matters...

Where in that post were you placing the end of the actual draft? Including examples from RL in the proposal itself, rather than just in the discussion about it, would be against the rules...
I suggest enclosing the draft in a box like this when you present a proposal's draft here...

"Would" not "wood", "clauses" not "claws", "freight" not "frate"...

This would be the first draft proposal with the following clauses:

1}create a commission which will standardize the railways and traincars so that everyone can use them.

2}have the international railway lines connect with each nations capital and at least 1 major port and any city that has at least 1 million population.

3}create ships that can transport these trains so that people can travel from island nations to continents until technology exists to connect these lines underwater.

4}these trains can be used for freight and tourists.

5}create bridges linking continents if technology makes it allowed or underwater tunnels depending on the feesible studies that the commission would conduct.

real world examples are the tunnel linking France and England. Or making a bridge linking Alaska to Russia. Trains could be like the snazzy bullet trains in Japan for tourists and something more bulk for frate which can maybe transfered on 18 wheelers or other trains.

I guess this makes it draft 1.1. Thanks for the input. If people are on different planets maybe we can include connection to spaceports. Just how high can we go with technology?

real world examples are the tunnel linking France and England. Or making a bridge linking Alaska to Russia. Trains could be like the snazzy bullet trains in Japan...


OOC: If you're proposing a resolution for the Nationstates UN, or doing anything else, it's generally best to keep real world references to a minimum

IC: We feel a few points are in need of address:

1}create a commission which will standardize the railways and traincars so that everyone can use them.

What right does the UN have to dictate how my train tracks work? What size to use? Who can use them? Is the UN going to pay to maintain these tracks that will be opened up so that "everyone can use them".

2}have the international railway lines connect with each nations capital and at least 1 major port and any city that has at least 1 million population.

My nation has no desire or need for an international railway line jutting into its capital. We have a network in place to move the supplies necessary for our country to destinations within its borders to best suit our people's needs. Why must our internal network be connected to an international line? It is an intrusion without benefit.

3}create ships that can transport these trains so that people can travel from island nations to continents until technology exists to connect these lines underwater.

Why not just fly the people and have them board a new train when they land? You have to boat the whole train...? Who is paying for these ships? What about nations who don't welcome just any visitor from just any country? What about nations who have never even seen a train?

4}these trains can be used for freight and tourists.

We already have those. You want to put our entire tourism sector out of business?

We question what Emperor Ceasar hopes to accomplish with this resolution, we ask that he states this goal in its next draft, but most of all we ask this project be abandoned in favour of something more constructive, necessary, and worthwhile.

- Gordon Tills, Roseariean Ambassador

Its supposed to make international links easy. Internal networks dont have to be connected. You can have people come to your nation easier and cross-border trade a cinch.

Its just to make UN members more accessible to each other. Imagine being able to go around the world by train and your country is one of the stopping points for tourists.

Using planes for international freight is expansive.

But if others think that it is not worthwhile, I'll drop it. Sorry for the bad attempt. I'll find something better to draft.

Ambassador from The Empire

Trains could be like the snazzy bullet trains in Japan for tourists

I hope you do realise that the Shinkansen network is meant primarily for inter-city commuting by people who actually live in Japan and is an economically important transport network, and not a theme park ride for the amusement people who just happen to be dropping by. Nevertheless, international railways are a good concept and worth pursuing... in some areas. Continental Europe, for instance, has the TGV and Eurostar, and they work pretty well - better than flying and often faster since you don't have to spend so much time on formalities and travelling to and from the airport.

But there's the problem; it would be very difficult to promote this by UN resolution because it simply wouldn't be suitable everywhere and UN resolutions must apply everywhere. It's also pretty useless to be loading trains onto ships to cross oceans just for the sake of it. And even if you had the technology, it's very hard to justify the expense of tunneling under the ocean to connect to a sparsely inhabited archipelago nation. Who would pay for it?

It's a worthwhile idea, but not so as a UN resolution.

*(thinks some more)*

And then, of course, there's the problem that the best -- if not only -- routes between some UN members would also pass through non-member nations...

Although this is a good idea, you can not have a standardized transportation mode over so many nations. As St. Edmundan Antarctic said (I'm just going to call you SEA from now..), to reach many nations you would have to pass through non-member nations.

In addition to that, many member countries may not require such comprehensive rail links to their cities, even if they do have more than 1 million citizens, as the transportation situation in every country is different.

True, the channel tunnel does help people get from England to France, but how well are the rest of Europe's railways connected? You can't force a country to expand it's transportation network and connect it to other countries. Of course additional funds provided by the UN to expand national railways and motorways would be more than welcome, but many countries may not wish to have themselves connected to an international railway network.

We also have the question of funding. How is the UN going to get all the money to connect all the various nations and build the massive bridges/tunnels required to connect continents? How will it fund the transportation departments of less developed UN members which may require an entire transport network to be started from scratch?

Overall a good notion,which would be impossible to apply.

A better idea would be the standardisation of railway guages, but that was already poo-pooed

Ok thanks guys for the advice. I wont bother redrafting. Proposal ends here.

Emperor Ceasar of the ShogunKhan concedes defeat on this proposal, we are but a warrior society, we will prevail with sensible proposals in the future! Hooah!