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I've been mulling over this one for awhile now and finally decided to put it out there in the 'public' of the UN...

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Convention on International Crimes

Category: International Security
Strength: Significant


The United Nations,

RECOGNIZES that an international police force is unwanted;

RECOGNIZES also, that international criminals are a serious problem, falling within the scope of the international community;

DEFINES, for the purpose of this resolution, an international criminal as a person wanted for felonies in at least two different states and who is not currently in the custody of any nation;

CREATES the Committee on International Crimes (CIC), whose duties shall include:

1) Creating and managing a database of known international criminals
2) Collecting relevant data on international criminals, including but not limited to their whereabouts, assets, and movements
3) Dispense that data as requested to appropriate law enforcement officials
4) Publish and distribute a list of known international criminals
5) Mediate and settle disputes between nations concerning the order of trials and sentences of international criminals

REQUIRES nations to hand over any data relevant to international criminals to the CIC, excepting that specific details on national security issues may be omitted to perserve national security;

REQUIRES nations to cooperate with law enforcement officials tracking international criminals and to provide reasonable assistance to said officials in tracking and apprehending said criminals within their borders;

GRANTS nations the right to withhold time sensitive information from the CIC in order to safeguard on going investigations and operations;

GRANTS nations the right to deny law enforcement officials access to their territories and resources under any conditions for which a country is allowed to refuse extradition as detailed by the United Nations or other international laws and treaties;

GRANTS nations the right to offer asylum to any international criminals within their borders, and to deny foreign law enforcement officials the right to track criminals granted asylum without fear of military reprisal;

URGES all nations to revoke and deny asylum for international criminals; and

RECOGNIZES the right of nations to handle all criminals currently in their custody in accordance with their own laws and customs.

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All comments, concerns, questions, and complaints welcome. Whining should be restricted to appropriate levels. Should an individual exceed his/her glasses of whine limit, it will be noted.

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby IV
UN Ambassador and Minister of Apologies
Whine Connoisseur

I've been mulling over this one for awhile now and finally decided to put it out there in the 'public' of the UN...

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Convention on International Crimes

Category: International Security
Strength: Significant


The United Nations,

RECOGNIZES that an international police force is unwanted;

RECOGNIZES also, that international criminals are a serious problem, falling within the scope of the international community;

DEFINES, for the purpose of this resolution, an international criminal as a person wanted for felonies in at least two different states and who is not currently in the custody of any nation;

CREATES the Committee on International Crimes (CIC), whose duties shall include:

1) Creating and managing a database of known international criminals
2) Collecting relevant data on international criminals, including but not limited to their whereabouts, assets, and movements
3) Dispense that data as requested to appropriate law enforcement officials
4) Publish and distribute a list of known international criminals
5) Mediate and settle disputes between nations concerning the order of trials and sentences of international criminals

REQUIRES nations to hand over any data relevant to international criminals to the CIC, excepting that specific details on national security issues may be omitted to perserve national security;

REQUIRES nations to cooperate with law enforcement officials tracking international criminals and to provide reasonable assistance to said officials in tracking and apprehending said criminals within their borders;

GRANTS nations the right to withhold time sensitive information from the CIC in order to safeguard on going investigations and operations;

GRANTS nations the right to deny law enforcement officials access to their territories and resources under any conditions for which a country is allowed to refuse extradition as detailed by the United Nations or other international laws and treaties;

GRANTS nations the right to offer asylum to any international criminals within their borders, and to deny foreign law enforcement officials the right to track criminals granted asylum without fear of military reprisal;

URGES all nations to revoke and deny asylum for international criminals; and

RECOGNIZES the right of nations to handle all criminals currently in their custody in accordance with their own laws and customs.

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All comments, concerns, questions, and complaints welcome. Whining should be restricted to appropriate levels. Should an individual exceed his/her glasses of whine limit, it will be noted.

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby IV
UN Ambassador and Minister of Apologies
Whine Connoisseur


My country puts It's support behind this resolution, but I have been required to ask your delegation a few questions.

Where will trials for international criminals take place?

Will multiple trials be allowed in different countries for the same and/or different crimes?

Will this criminal be turned over to a country which could possibly torture or kill him?

I don't like it.

But I have very short reasons!

First of all, it's got a built in escape clause. So it really doesn't do anything.

Second it attempts to regulate what I can do with my military. If I wanna invade a nation to pick up a genocidal maniac that it is granting asylum, I will.

I don't like it.

But I have very short reasons!

First of all, it's got a built in escape clause. So it really doesn't do anything.

Second it attempts to regulate what I can do with my military. If I wanna invade a nation to pick up a genocidal maniac that it is granting asylum, I will.

This is exactly what this resolution should be trying to prevent. The United Nations has no place for homicidal dictatorships such as yours.

Not to fuzzy up the point, but I believe it very much does.

Dourians are crazy, fun, stupid at times, and easily distracted by women in bikinis, but with the history of our nation, we do not tolerate genocide. If someone were to commit a genocide in our surrounding region or inside our country we will stop it and capture the criminal, no matter where he hides.

Not to fuzzy up the point, but I believe it very much does.

Dourians are crazy, fun, stupid at times, and easily distracted by women in bikinis, but with the history of our nation, we do not tolerate genocide. If someone were to commit a genocide in our surrounding region or inside our country we will stop it and capture the criminal, no matter where he hides.

And you can be sure that if you ever invade another nation on the pretext of capturing an international criminal that you will be dealing with not only that nation, but the whole of the Anatolian Armed Forces.

My country puts It's support behind this resolution, but I have been required to ask your delegation a few questions.

Where will trials for international criminals take place?

5) Mediate and settle disputes between nations concerning the order of trials and sentences of international criminals

The CIC will help mediate disputes on this issue.

Will multiple trials be allowed in different countries for the same and/or different crimes?

Again, part of the CIC mediations...and trying one person for the same crime in two countries doesn't make sense...if the action takes place in two countries, its two crimes, and he can be tried for both individually.

Will this criminal be turned over to a country which could possibly torture or kill him?

GRANTS nations the right to deny law enforcement officials access to their territories and resources under any conditions for which a country is allowed to refuse extradition as detailed by the United Nations or other international laws and treaties

That is up to the UN as a whole to decide. There is currently a resolution allowing refusal to extradite if captial punishment will be used, and there are ongoing efforts to expand or retract this.

And yes, that one clause DOES restrict your right to mindlessly kill thousands of people in order to get one person...there are numerous resolutions that already do this too. The UN is here to foster peace, not war.

This is excellent work and a proposal the Roseariean people will whole heartedly support. All my concerns were addressed as I read the proposal and I believe it is a very good draft indeed.

- Gordon Tills, Roseariean Ambassador

Different nations, different definitions of criminal... especially in the case of 'political' and 'moral' offences. On the one hand, this proposal does recognise the right of nations to offer asylum, which could be used in such case, but on the other hand there is a clause URGING them not to do so. I don't like it...

(OOC: Of course, I prefer my own proposal on Extradition (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499817)...)

Different nations, different definitions of criminal... especially in the case of 'political' and 'moral' offences. On the one hand, this proposal does recognise the right of nations to offer asylum, which could be used in such case, but on the other hand there is a clause URGING them not to do so. I don't like it...

(OOC: Of course, I prefer my own proposal on Extradition (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499817)...)

If you've been a 'political' offender in more than one country...perhaps you should have thought of that. And I do urge countries to deny asylum, but did not deny them that right because there are cases when it should be applied, because I don't want there to be cases where country A simply grants asylum to an international jewel thief or the like. I strongly urge countries to deny asylum to true criminals.

CREATES the Committee on International Crimes (CIC), whose duties shall include:

1) Creating and managing a database of known international criminals
2) Collecting relevant data on international criminals, including but not limited to their whereabouts, assets, and movements
3) Dispense that data as requested to appropriate law enforcement officials
4) Publish and distribute a list of known international criminals
5) Mediate and settle disputes between nations concerning the order of trials and sentences of international criminals

This seems to be duplicating ICPIN (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12864221&postcount=212).

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

This seems to be duplicating ICPIN (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12864221&postcount=212).

Except more intrusively and with fewer safeguards.