NationStates Jolt Archive

Basic Education Act

A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.


Category: Education and Creativity


Area of Effect: Educational


Proposed by: Bubosia

Description: The United Nations,

NOTING that many people around the world do not have sufficient education.

ALSO NOTING that basic education will decrease the population boom through later marrying and childbirth age.

REALIZING that basic education founds a path to further education, through which people can obtain higher paid jobs and therefore increase standard of living.

DEFINES 'basic education' as basic literacy skills, health knowledge and basic arithmetic.

MANDATES that children shall be given the right to free basic education, as, if given education, they can repay the cost of education through boosting the economy.

CALLS UPON all nations to recognize and enforce this act.

Approvals: 3 (Ellenburg, WZ Forums, Ventei)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 108 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Wed Nov 7 2007

While I do like the idea in principle, you're going to run into some opposition from those who oppose mandatory education. More to the point, not all countries may be able to afford providing free education, so it may be a good idea to explain how the application of this proposal would be funded.


Christophe Boco,
Ambassador to the United Nations,
PDSRA

Even more to the point, this proposal is illegal due to clause #6 of Resolution #171 (the 'UN Educational Aid Act').

MANDATES that children shall be given the right to free basic education, as, if given education, they can repay the cost of education through boosting the economy.

Should i ammend it to:
NOTING that many people around the world do not have sufficient education.

ALSO NOTING that basic education will decrease the population boom through later marrying and childbirth age.

REALIZING that basic education founds a path to further education, through which people can obtain higher paid jobs and therefore increase standard of living.

DEFINES 'basic education' as basic literacy skills, health knowledge and basic arithmetic.

ENCOURAGES all nations that their children shall be given the right to free basic education, as, if given education, they can repay the cost of education through boosting the economy.

STATES that , if a nation is unable to educate the children in the basic elements, that they may request the help of the UNEAF. If the UNEAF is unable to help they may seek the help of other third party organizations.

ALSO NOTING that basic education will decrease the population boom through later marrying and childbirth age.Like this statement but feel it has a problem in it.. Youngsters meet have sex have kids don't marry because they have no eduction thus no job thus can't support kids just have fun getting there. Beleive if one was to check they would find many times they meet while getting an eduction and then have kids either end up married stopping eduction or going on to have more kids... So where is the decrease in a population boom.

We agree that they need to be given basic eduction so they can survive in this world and not make the same mistakes others have before them...

Sex education and education in the results of parenting would decrease population. Note that weathly educated areas have less people and smaller families, while poor uneducated areas have large families.

If this does not go though, I will make sure that it is changed so it does, although the next proposal i make i will post here first.

I think that the only reason a state would denie mandatory education is if they want to use the fact that there are alot of undereducated poor people to their own advantage. Big corporations can exploit these people for cheap labour etc.
Therefore I agree with the general idea of education being an important factor and everybody should have the right to education. Funding is always an issue, but as was said earlier, in the long term it will pay for its self through an economy boost.

Lanteana will have nothing to do with this sort of proposal. We believe in complete liberty, and mandating education -- regardless of the good intent of the action -- violates that liberty at such a fundamental level as to entirely contrast Lanteana's values. Lanteana has no mandate on education, and will not accept it especially if it comes from the United Nations, which has no business meddling in the internal affairs of its various members anyway.

This proposal appears to be nothing more than a non-binding resolution; since it carries no authority, why would we want to waste our time on it?

What about the children of serfs? Could some countries simply give them vocational training? Are they covered in this act also? Because it would be bad if the serfs became educated, it would ruin the Nobility's and Church's hold on Holy Empire Pugliasium.

It would be very costly to educate every child sufficiently. Could the act be ammended so that poor countries will only be obligated to educate the children with the highest IQs?

Finally, what is a health education? Teaching students the rules of basketball or Tennis? Because that is just silly.

The Holy Empire of Pugliasium would like to note that lower birthrates a population boom are a bad thing. The population not only powers the economy, but having many children lowers the risk of breast cancer, is a symbol of status and is ecouraged by the Puglese Orthodox Church.

Finally, schools are a waste of money. With todays technology it would be cheaper if children used the internet to learn on their own, and pass a job qualification test.

Lord Darius Marcus
Ambassador the to NSUN

We fear that this brave attempt to reduce the incidence of ignorance is still doomed by the UN Educational Aid Act.

Ok ok, so basically i want something that will actually force something, will be supported and support the educations aid act, while being able to stand on its own, if a nation would like to help me do this then i would be happy.

I'm new to this, so don't bite my head off if I'm missing the point here, but it seems to be as though the term "basic education" is far too vague to be put into effect. Perhaps you would consider expanding on that idea to give it some level of definition?

Pugliasium
We will
-work in a clause for vocation.
-work in something like 'more able students will receive first priority
-State health education as basic information about the body, good food bad food food pyramid, exercise ( recommending it not enforcing it)

More education will boost economy through better jobs, also sex education (part of health education) would increase awareness of STDs and there fore hopefully lower the rate.
Also this aims to affect the poorer group of children, ones that cannot afford education. They dont have internet.

Also amend the below statement
STATES that , if a nation is unable to educate the children in the basic elements, that they may request the help of the UNEAF. If the UNEAF is unable to help they may seek the help of other third party organizations.

to

STATES that , if a nation is unable to educate the children in the basic elements, that they may request the help and funding of the UNEAF. If the UNEAF is unable to help they may seek the assistant of other third party organizations.

Finally if anyother concerns of clashing with the educational aid act are present please inform me.

I'm new to this, so don't bite my head off if I'm missing the point here, but it seems to be as though the term "basic education" is far too vague to be put into effect. Perhaps you would consider expanding on that idea to give it some level of definition?

DEFINES 'basic education' as basic literacy skills, health knowledge and basic arithmetic.

We are also looking to expand on the health knowledge sector.

Everyone of every age all around the world should be able to go to school, nevertheless, babies don't have that much attention span, but still. Like I said, everyone should have the right to go to school. God strike me dead, I swear to the UN that I will tell my people that they will go to school but they don't have to.

Should this happen: :sniper:

Should this happen: :upyours:

Or should this happen: :gundge:

...my people will learn!

Everyone of every age all around the world should be able to go to school, nevertheless, babies don't have that much attention span, but still. Like I said, everyone should have the right to go to school. God strike me dead, I swear to the UN that I will tell my people that they will go to school but they don't have to.

Should this happen: :sniper:

Should this happen: :upyours:

Or should this happen: :gundge:

...my people will learn! But of course, no one has to!

6. Entrusts nations with the right and responsibility to decide on the structure of their public education systems and the role of private institutions, mandatory, encouraged and prohibited subjects, skills and course elements in educational institutions, and the financing of educational programs, subject to previous UN legislation still in effect;
If the honoured ambassador notes the section of the UN Educational Aid Act that we have highlighted, he will we hope see why this invidious piece of legislation bars his own. The UN may not in any way, shape or form, tell nations what to place on their curricula without repealing this act.

Yes i have read that, so is there any way at ALL that we can put SOMETHING SIMILAR OR ON THE SAME LINE as this through, that is SUPPORTED adn SUPPORTS that act while SUPPORTING itself, and also have some sort of actual force.

Yes i have read that, so is there any way at ALL that we can put SOMETHING SIMILAR OR ON THE SAME LINE as this through, that is SUPPORTED adn SUPPORTS that act while SUPPORTING itself, and also have some sort of actual force.Believe the only way to mandate any subjects or levels of eduction and not violate the section of the current one noted is to get that one REPEALED....
as you can't do anything to AMMEND the current one any effort to do so is not legal.. and until the current one is off the books then yours is illegal if it mandates anything toward eduction.... also note it hits both the state funded eduction systems and private funded as clearly covers as forms of eduction and how they work together in a given nation.. that being set by that nation..... with the corpotation of any private eduction group... and the UN can do nothing to mandate on either per 171 sect 6.

The extra adds on sound good, but may the Nations reserve the right to organize their own curriculums, as long as they meet the standards of the Act?

Also, would it be a good idea to create some kind of international library?

Are you all sure that it is illegal to ammend a resolution. I don't remeber reading that in the rules.

You mean the "Rules for UN proposals" thread pinned to this forum? (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=420465)

Amendments

You can't amend proposals. Period. You can't add on, you can't adjust, you can't edit. If you want to change an existing Proposal, you have to Repeal it first.

Yes i have read that, so is there any way at ALL that we can put SOMETHING SIMILAR OR ON THE SAME LINE as this through, that is SUPPORTED adn SUPPORTS that act while SUPPORTING itself, and also have some sort of actual force.

Basically, no. That is the fundamental, and we strongly suspect intentional, flaw of the UNEAA. Your only option is to repeal the UNEAA, which we suspect will prove excessively difficult as few nations seem to bother to read the legislation on which they are voting.

ah well