NationStates Jolt Archive

I feel very strongly that the more recent version of second-hand smoking legislation was much too strong. The decision to allow smoking on private property is the decision of the property owner; if they choose to allow smoking, the people who wish to not inhale smoke have the right to not go.
I believe that this new legislation is a better compromise, for it protects private rights and yet can go a long way to solving the problem.
I urge you all to vote in favor of this resolution!
Pellar Sorn, Chancellor
Empire of the Graz

What legislation?


Always post a copy. We're lazy bastids.

The Second-Hand Smoking Act

A resolution to ban, legalize, or encourage recreational drugs.


Category: Recreational Drug Use


Decision: Outlaw


Proposed by: The Graz

Description: NOTING the poor health consequences of being in the presence of tobacco smokers, and the inability of those said people to prevent those fumes from entering their system,
NOTING the fact that second-hand smoking, hereby defined as tobacco smoke inhaled from a foreign cigarette, is almost as dangerous as smoking an actual cigarette,
The United Nations will:
1. OUTLAW the smoking of tobacco in public places, hereby defined as property not privately owned.
2. OUTLAW the smoking of tobacco in the open air, hereby defined as land not enclosed by four walls and a roof.
3. ENSHIRNE the right of proprietors and property owners to regulate smoking of tobacco as they wish within their premeses.and this...

Civil Drug Rights Act

A resolution to ban, legalize, or encourage recreational drugs.


Category: Recreational Drug Use


Decision: Legalize


Proposed by: The Graz

Description: NOTING that the Almighty Lord gave unto us FREE WILL to do as we will to our own body,
NOTING that an adult is legally allowed to determine the course of his own fate,
the United Nations will:
1. LEGALIZE the consumption of marijuana in private property, hereby defined as any property owned by an indivudual
2. ENSHRINE the right of proprietors o ban marijuana smoking on their property.
3. ENSHRINE the right of local governments to enforce laws against the smoking of marijuana in public domain.I guess the question I should ask is, why are the restrictions on tobacco stricter than on marijuana? And, don't both these proposals violate the UN Drug Act?

OUTLAW is a strong word just who will enforce these rules to keep folks from smoking where they dang well feel the need to smoke. Also what will be done to them if they are caught smoking where they shouldn't be. Now you will make the folks move outside and let the smokers come inside. As see nothing that says we must set up separate smoking rooms or houses or structures so they since they can by this only smoke inside then the nonsmokers can enjoy the fresh air outside now...

2. OUTLAW the smoking of tobacco in the open air, hereby defined as land not enclosed by four walls and a roof.


As far as the one on marijuana you run into the same problems with it that have with regular tobacco of enforcing any laws one may put into place on it... So if can solve one can solve the other but first need to solve either as a problem..

Also since a dictator owns all property he rules they those areas are individual's private property and same goes for a council that owns or rules a nation as they own the land thus have all rights to set up how folks live on it and to establish a government to mediate problems yet they still retain private ownership of the land....

As a single voice, the entire Altanari delegation says "bah" to both these pieces of...legislation.

We're opposed to any smoking laws being passed by the UN. Whether or not smoking is regulated should be decided by individual nations, and doesn't strike us as a matter of international significance. One can argue the effects of secondhand smoke all they like, but somehow, I doubt the secondhand smoke from smokers in Altanar is going to somehow reach all the way across the multiverse and affect smokers in, say, The Graz.

As for the second bit of legislation, we're kinda irked by the phrase "NOTING that the Almighty Lord gave unto us FREE WILL" contained within said legislation. Whose "almighty lord" are you referring to? In Altanar, the predominant religion is one where people worship a polytheistic faith composed of a pantheon of deities. We also find it ironic that the legislation natters on about some singular deity giving everyone free will, and that "an adult is legally allowed to determine the course of his own fate", yet saying it's perfectly okay to ignore that deity and "enforce laws against the smoking of marijuana in public domain", despite the fact that such laws legally don't allow someone to determine the course of their own fate if they partake of the herb, at least not without intervention from your friendly neighborhood cop.

Hmm....no to both. Thanks for playing though.

Ikir Askanabath, Ambassador

If the final draft is written properly, we will undoubtedly support the proposal. Moreover, we have just intoduced a similar bill within our nation, what you can observe in our current profile...

"The majority of the Great Commonwealth does not smoke and is agnostic. We also do not feel either of these issues are of international significance. We will not support this legislation."

Yelda concurs with the Commonwealth of the Wolf Guardians. This is not an international issue. The UN, with its limited resources, has better things to do than regulate the smoking policies in 20,715 member nations.

Aüþgæþ Spøtyiú
Ambassador

I would almost have to agree with that last; human rights is ALWAYS an international issue. Everyone has good points: I will revise and submit a new version.

I would almost have to agree with that last; human rights is ALWAYS an international issue. Everyone has good points: I will revise and submit a new version.
Whilst we would generally agree with that sentiment, we note that neither of these proposals (nor should be) human rights. The concern recreational drug use, and that we are not certain is a national matter, never mind an international one.

this is a solid move for safeguarding the health of all peoples.

however rephrasing it condemming and sanctioning nations, rather than individuals of countries may have more success getting through, as each nation has its own way of enforcing and administrating the ban.

in thezone, we burn people with their own fags if theyre caught smoking within 500 miles of another human.

in thezone, we burn people with their own fags if theyre caught smoking within 500 miles of another human.I believe this runs afoul of at least one UN Resolution.