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Excellencies,
Ladies and Gentleman,

The Permanent Mission The Principality of Rizlandic has the honour to inform the honourable delegates that the Government of the Principality of Rizlandic decided to put to the following draft resolution to your review.

Protection of Human Rights Defenders
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Human Rights

Stressing the importance of civil and political rights and freedoms for the enhancement of the nations and international peace and solidarity,

Reaffirming the Bill of Rights granting people the right to assembly,

Recognizing that everyone has the right to know about their rights and freedoms, moreover protect and promote them,

Understanding that the term “human rights” shall not be differed from the term “civil rights,”

The NationStates United Nations shall endorse the Protection of Human Rights Defenders Act, the articles of which are as follows:

1- Everyone has the right to peacefully assemble with or without registration in order to protect and promote human rights and monitor the governments and other related organizations or institutions concerning the implementations, mechanisms and other procedures related with human rights and freedoms.

2- Each State shall adopt necessary mechanisms to protect human rights defenders and their right to peacefully publicize their work, especially including, but not limited to, times of war, martial law and conflict.

3- Human rights defenders or representatives of non-governmental human rights organizations shall not be avoided from attending national, international or regional meetings, demonstrations, trainings and conferences; and be not deprived from right to travel within the country.

4- Human rights defenders shall be allowed to visit any public facility including, but not limited to, detention centers, prisons, hospitals, schools, police and gendarmerie stations, mental hospitals, orphanages, refugee camps or detention centers.

5- Each State shall provide information and data for human rights defenders to be able to monitor and report any violations of human rights.

6- The State shall enact necessary legislation to make this act binding for commercial and private institutions and organizations.

Reaffirming the Bill of Rights granting people the right to assembly,

Beg pardon? We don't have that, do we?

No. Just... no. We are vigorous proponents of the UN's proper place in forwarding the human rights of the citizens of member nations, but this is unacceptable to us. The concept of "human rights defenders" is not a well-defined one, and carries with it the scent of the sort of busy-body with an ulterior motive who most needs to be prevented from the blanket access that clause 4 unwisely gives. We appreciate the thought of requiring nations and businesses to publish the sort of data that allows the violation of rights to be noted, but to raise up self-appointed bastions of truth and justice in such a manner as the proposal does is just to give the oxygen of publicity to the cheapest imaginable form of political career, all at the cost of the government.

3- Human rights defenders or representatives of non-governmental human rights organizations shall not be avoided from attending national, international or regional meetings, demonstrations, trainings and conferences; and be not deprived from right to travel within the country.

We will provide them all with bleachers so they can watch our anual war games. Just give us a list of who they shall be so we can make sure we have enough seating for all of them in a good loctation to observe the training on weapons with live fire

4- Human rights defenders shall be allowed to visit any public facility including, but not limited to, detention centers, prisons, hospitals, schools, police and gendarmerie stations, mental hospitals, orphanages, refugee camps or detention centers .So you don't think their representatives are honest enough to do this as you left them off here but had them in #3 above... Also why not include nuke weapons sites and military installations as leaving them out we declare it all a military post and thus they can't visit it.

6- The State shall enact necessary legislation to make this act binding for commercial and private institutions and organizations.
The State enforces laws that protect citizens and companies owned by citizens and their property it don't need to be making them to let anyone come and go on private property and this would force them to do that.

If they force their way about this then they will have a free trip to prison as they will be violating a number of local and national laws in that. Also if they act up they may be declare mentaly unstable and have a long visit at out mental instutions...

OH and you have dention centers twice or need to define the two centers so folks know what they are. And not consider it a Dention Room at some school...

1- Everyone has the right to peacefully assemble with or without registration in order to protect and promote human rights and monitor the governments and other related organizations or institutions concerning the implementations, mechanisms and other procedures related with human rights and freedoms.

2- Each State shall adopt necessary mechanisms to protect human rights defenders and their right to peacefully publicize their work, especially including, but not limited to, times of war, martial law and conflict.

This would apparently over-ride the nations' codes of military discipline, allowing members of the armed forces to desert their posts -- even in times of war -- under the excuse of attending such assemblies...
NO BLOODY WAY!

1- Everyone has the right to peacefully assemble with or without registration in order to protect and promote human rights and monitor the governments and other related organizations or institutions concerning the implementations, mechanisms and other procedures related with human rights and freedoms.

Altanar requires that public assemblies or demonstrations be registered, and take place in approved locations, with appropriate security present. This is in place because before we did that, public demonstrations had a way of turning into riots - meaning, they almost always did. The "with or without registration" bit would need to go from this clause for us to approve of it.

2- Each State shall adopt necessary mechanisms to protect human rights defenders and their right to peacefully publicize their work, especially including, but not limited to, times of war, martial law and conflict.

Unacceptable interference with how we protect our nation during times of war, martial law or conflict.

3- Human rights defenders or representatives of non-governmental human rights organizations shall not be avoided from attending national, international or regional meetings, demonstrations, trainings and conferences; and be not deprived from right to travel within the country.

We have a problem here too, namely the part about not being "deprived from right to travel within the country". Anyone could label themselves a "human rights defender" - a terrorist, an insurgent, etc. - and we'd have no legal means to prevent them from going wherever in Altanar they wanted to under this clause. Absolutely unacceptable.

4- Human rights defenders shall be allowed to visit any public facility including, but not limited to, detention centers, prisons, hospitals, schools, police and gendarmerie stations, mental hospitals, orphanages, refugee camps or detention centers.

ANY public facility? That's entirely too broad a clause. Again, anyone can label themselves a "human rights defender", and now we have to let them into ANY public facility in Altanar, including military and police facilities? Absolutely, unequivocally not a chance in the seven hells that's ever going to happen.

5- Each State shall provide information and data for human rights defenders to be able to monitor and report any violations of human rights.

I think this may be the only clause we don't have an issue with. Not good enough.

6- The State shall enact necessary legislation to make this act binding for commercial and private institutions and organizations.

And we have to impose this on private businesses and institutions too? No. A thousand times no.

We applaud your desire to protect human rights, but this needs an immense amount of work before it would be even remotely acceptable to us. Sorry.

Ikir Askanabath, Ambassador

While the Commonwealth of Knoxvillistan notes the honorable purpose of the proposal, its government takes issue with its apparent lack of regard for national sovereignty. It is on this basis that the Commonwealth hereby notes its opposition to the measure.

Steven McCoy, Ambassador

While the Commonwealth of Knoxvillistan takes issue with its apparent lack of regard for national sovereignty.

What national sovereignty? You pretty much tossed that in the garbage when you joined the UN.

What the UN says, goes. For ALL member nations. Go read the other 225 passed resolutions and see where your sovereignty is, fella.

If you can defend a human right, you can defend yourself.

HotRodian UN Representative
Accelerus Dioce

hmm, might as well make the token species arguement.

No humans here, only us Pirates.

As for Clauses 4 and 6, Can I have access to your bank vaults? I'm a human rights defender.

Keelhaul Basinstoke
Bloodstonian UN Pirate

What national sovereignty? You pretty much tossed that in the garbage when you joined the UN.

What the UN says, goes. For ALL member nations. Go read the other 225 passed resolutions and see where your sovereignty is, fella.

Perhaps I could have been more specific. What I dislike about this measure is the whole "let the human rights defenders go wherever they please in my nation" idea. I thought my purpose in my previous posting was self-evident. Of course I know that UN resolutions are binding. Do you think that I can't read the FAQ? :p

Perhaps I could have been more specific. What I dislike about this measure is the whole "let the human rights defenders go wherever they please in my nation" idea. I thought my purpose in my previous posting was self-evident. Of course I know that UN resolutions are binding. Do you think that I can't read the FAQ? :p
You wouldn't be the first :-( We thank the honoured ambassador for the clarification, since we did not and do not believe that national sovereignty entered the picture in any way. We do however share his displeasure with the proposal.

the daft invader wishes to walk into your presidents office, and poo in his drawer as the daft invader is a human rights defenders. the 10000 soldiers, 500 battle tanks, and 2 carrier groups, with 45 fighter jets, that are massed on your borders, are also human rights defenders.


see the problem there?

Oh, and of course clause #3 would also make it impossible to keep convicted criminals in jail -- no matter how rightful the conviction, or how serious their offences -- too...

Excellencies,
Ladies and Gentleman,

The Permanent Mission The Principality of Rizlandic has the honour to call the honourable delegates of the member states of the United Nations to the proposed resolution targeting the full protection of human rights defenders who are core components to have human rights and freedoms guaranteed. The government of the Principality of Rizlandic believes that the United Nations members have taken an important step by enrolling to this supranational body to enshrine the human rights and freedoms. Our government would like to invite all member states to further their efforts by supporting this proposal.

Protection of Human Rights Defenders
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Human Rights

Stressing the importance of civil and political rights and freedoms for the enhancement of the nations and international peace and solidarity,

Reaffirming the Bill of Rights granting people the right to assembly,

Recognizing that everyone has the right to know about their rights and freedoms, moreover protect and promote them,

Understanding that the term “human rights” shall not be differed from the term “civil rights,”

The NationStates United Nations shall endorse the Protection of Human Rights Defenders Act, the articles of which are as follows:

1- Everyone has the right to peacefully assemble with or without registration in order to protect and promote human rights and monitor the governments and other related organizations or institutions concerning the implementations, mechanisms and other procedures related with human rights and freedoms.

2- Each State shall adopt necessary mechanisms to protect human rights defenders and their right to peacefully publicize their work, especially including, but not limited to, times of war, martial law and conflict.

3- Human rights defenders or representatives of non-governmental human rights organizations shall not be avoided from attending national, international or regional meetings, demonstrations, trainings and conferences; and be not deprived from right to travel within the country.

4- Human rights defenders shall be allowed to visit any public facility including, but not limited to, detention centers, prisons, hospitals, schools, police and gendarmerie stations, mental hospitals, orphanages, refugee camps or detention centers.

5- Each State shall provide information and data for human rights defenders to be able to monitor and report any violations of human rights.

6- The State shall enact necessary legislation to make this act binding for commercial and private institutions and organizations.

Please don't repost new threads for your new drafts. One is sufficient.

Thread merged.

It's not even a new draft. It's the old draft, resubmitted without addressing a single one of the concerns raised by anybody.

Thumbs down.

Wolfgang yawns again. The GA has been quite boring as of late. "Minor pet peeve with this in addition to its abysmal failures. I'm not human. Does this, therefore, have nothing to do with myself or my countrymen?"

OOC: It would help if the OP would actually come back and participate in the discussion...

It's not even a new draft. It's the old draft, resubmitted without addressing a single one of the concerns raised by anybody.
He's probably got his forum thread settings on "show last 24 hours" and thought it was deleted, so he reposted. But you're right - he ought to participate.