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The UN must remain vigilante in its efforts to promote humanitarian assistance across the world. There are many nations that use force against their own citizens to eliminate opposition and create fear. We at the UN must stop this and therefore we should impose sanctions against any nation that violates humanitarian laws.

The UN must remain vigilante in its efforts to promote humanitarian assistance across the world. There are many nations that use force against their own citizens to eliminate opposition and create fear. We at the UN must stop this and therefore we should impose sanctions against any nation that violates humanitarian laws.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't this be an Ideological Ban violation? It doesn't necessarily ban these forms of government outright, but imposing sanctions would have a very negative effect, yes?

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't this be an Ideological Ban violation? It doesn't necessarily ban these forms of government outright, but imposing sanctions would have a very negative effect, yes?Yes it would and it would be impossible for the UN under it current policy it has no police or military to keep the peace to enforce and sanctions it may impose. Especialy when about 3 nations to every one is not in UN... so to santion 75% of you income most would not do.

No these sanctions would not have a negative effect, and we're not suggesting an ideological ban. We're simply stating that perhaps sanctions would help push these nations into the right direction. We in no way want to hinder nations from building up, but we simply want to help them along the way to democracy. A democratically elected nation seems to strive better since the people do not feel oppressed; and, furthermore, our idea is exactly that...just an idea. There is no need to criticize the idea, and we simply want to open the idea up to debate. If these sanctions are a failure, then the Democratic Republic of Mikaustinwan will back away from these "ideological bans." We still believe we should remain vigilante in ending the suffering across the world today, but perhaps we will have to do this without the support of the UN.

Umm

I don't think that the NationStates UN Does Sactions against anything. The NationStates UN does not equal the Real Life UN.

There is no need to criticize the idea, and we simply want to open the idea up to debate.Criticism is a part of debate. Otherwise you have an echo chamber.

An undemocratic nation is not necessarily a repressive nation. As such, the title of this proposal does not correspond to its content.


Julien Quan (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Julien_Quan),
Deputy Ambassador to the United Nations,
PDSRA

An undemocratic nation is not necessarily a repressive nation. As such, the title of this proposal does not correspond to its content.



Exactly! Secondly, how do you imagine, honorable delegate, imposing sanctions on the basis of one characteristics of a nation? No sanctions may ever be imposed without preceding talks and negotiations with such nation, as this would turn the UN into a despotic organization.

Criticism is a part of debate. Otherwise you have an echo chamber.

Unfortunately, some people seem to have nice echo chambers set up in their heads.

HotRodian UN Representative
Accelerus Dioce

There is no need to criticize the idea...

If you're so supportive of democracy, then surely you can't deny me my right to criticize...
Also, you continue to use vigilante when you mean vigilant.

Good day.

Eros Tatriel
UN Rep. for Subistratica

Unless a nation is committing gross violations of sentient beings' basic rights against its own citizens, Altanar is opposed to interference in the governance of individual nations just because of the type of government they have. And even in the case of nations violating the rights of sentient beings, individual nations can band together to force change, and often do. We are opposed to this proposal.

An undemocratic nation is not necessarily a repressive nation. As such, the title of this proposal does not correspond to its content.


Julien Quan (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Julien_Quan),
Deputy Ambassador to the United Nations,
PDSRA

FYI...A nation without democracy has always been repressive towards its people, if you don't believe me ask my Grandmother who was forced to join the Nazi Youth, or my Grandfather who wasn't given a choice to fight in WWII for the Germans. Ask the thousands of fleeing Cubans, or the millions of "repressed" Chinese. The fact is that Ariddia you're absolutely wrong, maybe you should stick your nose in a couple of government books instead of pretending to be the Ambassador to the UN!

Dude I need to get a life...Shit I never realized how completely uber-dorky this shit really is! Here we are talking about a fake UN, that doesn't compare at all to the real UN, and we think we know what we're talking about. I want to say that it's easy to attack someone for the way they wrote something, or for how they feel about issues, but the truth is we're not even talking about real issues. We're not talking about the thousands of lives that are taken in Darfur, or the repressive (this is for you Ariddia) governments in South East Asia. We're not talking about the Buddhist monks in Burma (Mynamar...Oh Subistratica could you check the spelling of that country for me), or the humanitarian violations that occur in South America, China, and the Middle East. No we're discussing something that makes absolutely no fucking difference to the world (the real World). So remember one thing, while you turn your gears to figure out if its vigilant or vigilante, this is all fake! Mikaustinwan ceases to exist, because this shit is corny...I'm going to go back to Bodog and play fantasy football, at least the players there know what they're talking about...Peace out Losers!

Dude I need to get a life...Shit I never realized how completely uber-dorky this shit really is! Here we are talking about a fake UN, that doesn't compare at all to the real UN, and we think we know what we're talking about. I want to say that it's easy to attack someone for the way they wrote something, or for how they feel about issues, but the truth is we're not even talking about real issues. We're not talking about the thousands of lives that are taken in Darfur, or the repressive (this is for you Ariddia) governments in South East Asia. We're not talking about the Buddhist monks in Burma (Mynamar...Oh Subistratica could you check the spelling of that country for me), or the humanitarian violations that occur in South America, China, and the Middle East. No we're discussing something that makes absolutely no fucking difference to the world (the real World). So remember one thing, while you turn your gears to figure out if its vigilant or vigilante, this is all fake! Mikaustinwan ceases to exist, because this shit is corny...I'm going to go back to Bodog and play fantasy football, at least the players there know what they're talking about...Peace out Losers!


No see. Cause this game is supposed to be FUN. Not for you to take your RL rants and push them onto the rest of us.

So I say good riddence. We don't need the likes of you here.

I'm going to go back to Bodog and play fantasy football, at least the players there know what they're talking aboutI'm drowning in the irony.