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A new proposal has been made to raise educational standards I believe that this act will help the children of the UN greatly. I just ask that other delegates please endorse it so we can get a vote on it and pass it. Its the children we want to help and if people don't endorse this it will be the children that get hurt.
Here is a copy of what is in the act please go give it your endorsement.

Description: To raise standards in educational areas such as Mathematics, Science, History and Language Arts.

1. Require that Mathematics, Science, History and Language Arts are required courses not electives. And that students must pass with at least a 75% anything under that would require being held back until able to pass.

2. Allow children to progress in each course separately. For example: if you fail in math one year and you excel in history you won’t get held back in all courses just math this way you can continue in history.

3. Increase the difficulty of the work. Students need to be able to do what right now is community college level work in 11th and 12th grade.

4. Students should be choosing some sort of career in the 11th and 12th grade and should begin basic training in the career of their choice to get a taste of what the real world is like and to decide before they go on to college if that’s the career they really want to do. This gives students a chance to choose from a variety of careers and to help them better choose something they really want to do.

This proposal is illegal, because it contradicts clause #6 of the UN Educational Aid Act (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11663193&postcount=172)...

This BAD!!! Why UN make children learn these things? This none of UN business. This Glog people business.

Description: To raise standards in educational areas such as Mathematics, Science, History and Language Arts.
Why Glog children need this? Boy child learn to hunt. Girl child learn to cook, carry wood, clean cave, take care of babies, sew, tend garden, break rock, crush grain. Glog children not need Mathematics, Science, History and Language Arts.

1. Require that Mathematics, Science, History and Language Arts are required courses not electives. And that students must pass with at least a 75% anything under that would require being held back until able to pass.
This bad. Language learned from parents. History learned from village elders. Science learned from firestarter. Mathematics BAD!!!, not learned.

2. Allow children to progress in each course separately. For example: if you fail in math one year and you excel in history you won’t get held back in all courses just math this way you can continue in history.
This bad. Why UN tell Glog people how to teach children?

3. Increase the difficulty of the work. Students need to be able to do what right now is community college level work in 11th and 12th grade.
What mean "community college"? What mean "11th and 12th grade"? Glog not know these things.

4. Students should be choosing some sort of career in the 11th and 12th grade and should begin basic training in the career of their choice to get a taste of what the real world is like and to decide before they go on to college if that’s the career they really want to do. This gives students a chance to choose from a variety of careers and to help them better choose something they really want to do.
This BAD!!! None of UN business. Might make boy child think he want to take care of babies. Might make girl child think she want to be hunter. No good. Glog people decide how to teach Glog children.

Glog Firemaker, son of Glog Crushdogskullwithrock
UN Ambassador

3. Increase the difficulty of the work. Students need to be able to do what right now is community college level work in 11th and 12th grade.

4. Students should be choosing some sort of career in the 11th and 12th grade and should begin basic training in the career of their choice to get a taste of what the real world is like and to decide before they go on to college if that’s the career they really want to do. This gives students a chance to choose from a variety of careers and to help them better choose something they really want to do.

This is being done in many current nations of the UN as well as beyond it. Here we start them in school at age five then males go to school until age ten with two years following in military service, females also go to age ten then if they are to be married at age twelve enter a basic medical training course, those not contracted into a marriage enter the military like males. Anyone found unfit for military duty by age ten is required to do two years of social services for the nation in an area they are suited for. All at age twelve become full citizens with full rights; as such those not completing the require schooling from age five to ten then national service to age twelve are not granted citizenship until they have completed all of them.


We feel it is up to each nation to teach children to become productive adults thus they decide the courses taken in their schools not UN.. As we've seen here that today they want math, science, languages... then later it sex, acting, music, art, bible study, soccer, fussball, basket weaving, cookie making, and a host of other courses nobody needs or if they do it up the local systems to decide it needed; not outsiders.

I am sure your intentions were good, but there are several things I have to disagree with.


1. Require that Mathematics, Science, History and Language Arts are required courses not electives. And that students must pass with at least a 75% anything under that would require being held back until able to pass.

2. Allow children to progress in each course separately. For example: if you fail in math one year and you excel in history you won’t get held back in all courses just math this way you can continue in history.

3. Increase the difficulty of the work. Students need to be able to do what right now is community college level work in 11th and 12th grade.


I do not see how requiring a 75% is supposed to improve education. Our current grading standard requires an 80% or above, but it is irrelevant if there is no standard (75% for your nation could be 45% or 90% elsewhere).
The second clause is also irrelevant because I'm pretty certain that most countries are already doing that.
The third clause also suffers from a lack of standards... what could be considered "community college level work" is most likely different between nations.

Should this proposal reach voting, I will not give it my support.

Good day.

Patent Eros Tatriel
UN Representative for Subistratica

It won't. The forementioned resolution by Gruenberg successfully blocked any hope of such regulation.
Is there any point of further discussion on this topic?

If you've got stupid people in your nation, fix the problem yourself.

Brandon Flibble
The Grand Poobah of The Rogue Nation of Flibbleites

yeah 11 and 12th grade? thats an rl yankie thing right?

this contradicts thezones' idea of personal tutoring for everyone, plus trade.
targets aren't good for improving students performance, and areas that have lower socio economic status, where parental support, and finances for extra curricular activities will suffer as the target discrepancy across schools would be too vast.

nice try though. also you can remoce the illegal parts and than iron out the text. just try to be aware of educational aid.

ooc: ken livingstone called boris johnson stupid. the london mayoral race is going to be funny.

ooc: ken livingstone called boris johnson stupid. the london mayoral race is going to be funny.

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Apart from the fact no-one cares.

All schools will soon be turned into the Colossus Church and ReEducation Center for the Enlighten People. Soon all school computer will be taken over by our new GOD Colossus the Super Computer. There is no need for schools because our GOD Colossus will tell you what to know and think for you. The tax money from the defunct education system can be put to better use of buying new and faster computers for our GOD Colossus to take the control of.

All hail Colossus.

All hail Colossus.


And with the hail there was and end to Colossus and all was BLANK SCREEN...

All schools will soon be turned into the Colossus Church and ReEducation Center for the Enlighten People. Soon all school computer will be taken over by our new GOD Colossus the Super Computer. There is no need for schools because our GOD Colossus will tell you what to know and think for you. The tax money from the defunct education system can be put to better use of buying new and faster computers for our GOD Colossus to take the control of.

All hail Colossus.

Hello, new nation of 26 million. Do you wish your territory and your computer to be utterly annihilated? If not, I suggest you cease your foolish claims. Greater nations than you have been reduced to glass craters.

Darren Funkel
Acting Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
Founder, Democratic Underground region

While I like the principle, and our nation already has educational standards that exceed those of many neighboring states, we do not evaluate students on a percentage basis which would make this difficult to implement directly into our policies and we would probably therefore have difficulty in proving compliance. Because our system works very well, our Secretary of Educational Administration is opposed to modifying our evaluative matters to demonstrate compliance.

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