NationStates Jolt Archive

I've endeavored to keep up our page for UN Headquarters (ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/UN_Headquarters), but the pics we choose for the UN Building keep collapsing. The first image was one of some old European castle, or something, but the link expired. So I replaced it with an image of a Chicago highrise. Luckily, I was too lazy to upload the pic, and that link, too, bit the dust. And a wiki page with nothing but an office listing is rather boring. So we need a picture of the UN Building everyone can agree upon. Post your suggestions here: something relatively modern, as the UN was only founded in 2003, unless you're into that retro look. Keep in mind the building is 40 stories high, above ground, so it should be, you know, substantial enough to accommodate that kind of space. Nothing too unconventional or avante-garde, either. Secretary General Gratwick, we understand, is rather, shall we say?, conservative woman, and wouldn't want a flashy symbol of metropolitan values defiling her beloved UN.

I'll go with whatever design most participants here seem to like best.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w107/Cookesland/448.jpg

i like this although it might be a little too modern, i'll keep looking around for a couple more pics

Edit: Pic fixed, i hope *crosses fingers*

http://www5.worldisround.com/photos/11/71/448.jpg

i like this although it might be a little too modern, i'll keep looking around for a couple more pics

I don't really know how to say this, but... There is no picture.

EDIT: Works fine now. I'm quite in favour of the first proposal.

I don't really know how to say this, but... There is no picture.

It works on my computer let me try again


Suggestion #2

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w107/Cookesland/hsd_NewHighRise.jpg

These are a few of my favorites.

Modern, but not too modern.
http://pics.livejournal.com/rubinans/pic/00001s36

This one's a bit medieval.
http://pics.livejournal.com/rubinans/pic/00004f5z

An alternative modern.
http://pics.livejournal.com/rubinans/pic/00002p26

Another, staid but modern glass box.
http://pics.livejournal.com/rubinans/pic/00003wp1

This one has the advantage of separating the socialists from the capitalists. ;)
http://pics.livejournal.com/rubinans/pic/000055qh

This one would get my vote.
http://pics.livejournal.com/rubinans/pic/00008z48

And this one has charms all its own. :)
http://pics.livejournal.com/rubinans/pic/0000793d

A few of my suggestions...

#1 (http://www.natecarlson.com/pictures/vancouver/.cache/423x640-_dsc4944.jpg)

#2 (http://medpod4.members.winisp.net/Blog/IMG_1793.JPG)

#3 (http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/wp-content/cemetery-skyscraper.gif)

I like Cookesland's first suggestion.

An alternative modern.
http://pics.livejournal.com/rubinans/pic/00002p26I like this one. Reminds me of the library at my university, heh.

#1
http://www.painetworks.com/photos/hk/hk2861.JPG

#2
http://www.painetworks.com/photos/gi/gi0046.JPG

Personally I like #2

Something a little different...

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r90/friendlyfire_xbla/ruskyscraper-1.jpg

Got a few...

1 (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/43/Ifc2.jpg/188px-Ifc2.jpg)

2 (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Bank_of_china_night.jpg/449px-Bank_of_china_night.jpg)

3 (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Forbys_Taipei_101.jpg/285px-Forbys_Taipei_101.jpg)

4 (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/29/SWFC.jpg/250px-SWFC.jpg)

5 (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Turning_Torso_3.jpg/450px-Turning_Torso_3.jpg)

6 (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Hearstowernyc.JPG)

7 (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/SwissReHQ.jpg/200px-SwissReHQ.jpg)

That's all I got.

I once contemplated putting a picture of Burj Dubai on there, but it's incomplete.

I like Rubina's first suggestion and Ambrose-Douglas' second suggestion is pretty cool

I bet no one though of this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/United_Nations_HQ_-_New_York_City.jpg

OoC: I always sought of imagined it to be a horrid mixture of archintechural styles. As if one architect designed it originally, but as the UN grew, the building had extra levels put onto it, with new architects designing each new section as all of them, successively, got seriously annoyed with the bureaucracy and meddling in the UN, they could never get the same person to do a section twice. We could then also add a section in the article about the architect for each section and their nationality, which would make it more interesting. Might be able to do a diagramme on MS Paint...

http://www.kentuckyville.us/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/bilde.jpg

Appropriately ugly, yet functional.

That it is :D

I'm inclined against the ultramodern stuff, as well as the overly tall structures. We have to remember, the building's only 40 stories high.

I like Cob's idea. Is there a way to locate a picture of such a horridly mismatched architectural nightmare? I also liked Rubina's suggestion for segregating the capitalists from the socialists. ;)

This is the building I originally had placed on the wiki page, though it was a much better photograph, another of which I can't seem to find:

http://www.math.uic.edu/~limin/chicago/tn60.%20City%20Place.jpg

How about this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/JimRad-Mac/UNbuilding.jpg

There is a shopping centre somewhere in England that literally had 3 designers. It would certainly work.

No matter which one we pick. In my opinion it has to be a glass building.

http://www.kentuckyville.us/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/bilde.jpg

Appropriately ugly, yet functional.

Never mind ugly! it looks unstable. The only way we'd get out of that building would be in a body bag.

An alternative modern.
http://pics.livejournal.com/rubinans/pic/00002p26

I like this one. Simple and modern.

I like Cob's idea. Is there a way to locate a picture of such a horridly mismatched architectural nightmare?Like the Harold Washington Library (http://www.arrakeen.ch/usacan/190%20%20Harold%20Washington%20Library.jpg) in Chicago? Not tall enough, though.

Then there's this... thing (http://retaildesigndiva.blogs.com/retail_design_diva/images/2007/04/20/iac_building_low_02_2.jpg).

:Dhttp://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w107/Cookesland/448.jpgI like this one.

http://www.kentuckyville.us/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/bilde.jpg

Appropriately ugly, yet functional.I like this one too, it's a perfect match for the crazyness taking place inside the building.

How about this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/JimRad-Mac/UNbuilding.jpgToo tall.

Never mind ugly! it looks unstable. The only way we'd get out of that building would be in a body bag.

In other words, it's perfect.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Palace-of-soviets.jpg

What?


Truthfully, I think Cookesland's first design fits the bill best. It looks tall enough, has that nice sort of modern, but not too modern, look, and has a good variety of smooth, flat, and rounded shapes.

http://cac.mcgill.ca/safdie/habitat/images/matrix-images/original/NY2-descrip.jpg

Biggest issue I see is lack of adequate defenestration facilities. At best, you'd only fall a couple stories.

http://www.containercity.com/images/cc2/cc2-shot.jpg

On a similar track, let's just build the whole damn thing out of shipping containers. Forget 'bagsy', just get a crane and drop in a new delegation.

Let's just throw out some supertall structures and imagine they're 40 stories tall...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/42/Theillinois.jpg/185px-Theillinois.jpg
The Mile High Illinois (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illinois)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4c/X-seed4000.jpg/250px-X-seed4000.jpg
The "X-Seed 4000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Seed_4000)", (would have cost ~300-900 billion RL dollars)

Assuming we're not going to make the UN Building as large as Mt. Fuji, I like #1/4 of Akimonad's.


On a similar track, let's just build the whole damn thing out of shipping containers. Forget 'bagsy', just get a crane and drop in a new delegation.

I can imagine the new UN cards now...

I think this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryugyong_Hotel) would be fitting too. "UN Building? There's no UN building here!"

I like this one. Reminds me of the library at my university, heh.:D

http://www.kentuckyville.us/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/bilde.jpg

Appropriately ugly, yet functional.And evidently has a foundation of hot air. Nice. Gets my vote in the ugly glass category.

I like Cob's idea. Is there a way to locate a picture of such a horridly mismatched architectural nightmare?

Like this?
http://pics.livejournal.com/rubinans/pic/00009pd6
I especially like that the bottom floors have been leased out for advertising by Bldg Management to make up for the funding shortfall. ;)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Palace-of-soviets.jpg

What?


You know, I quite like this one. Now, if we could replace the statue on top with one of Catherine Gratwick or the Yeldan "babyfight", it would be perfect. Or we can just call the statue something like "Memorial to the Unknown Pissed off Diplomat" or perhaps "The Arrogant Architect"

http://www.containercity.com/images/cc2/cc2-shot.jpg

On a similar track, let's just build the whole damn thing out of shipping containers. Forget 'bagsy', just get a crane and drop in a new delegation.

Hey, UN Building Mgmt. would never have to worry about building new offices. Everyone could just add theirs to the top.

http://www.containercity.com/images/cc2/cc2-shot.jpg

On a similar track, let's just build the whole damn thing out of shipping containers. Forget 'bagsy', just get a crane and drop in a new delegation.
excellent idea. Finally we won't have to use the 18th floor bathroom as our office. Or was it the 17th floor?

As popular as the shipping-container behemoth has proven, I really think Rubina's latest suggestion (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12875840&postcount=29) is the best. Unbelievably ugly, mismatched phases, clashing architecture, suitably modern, and added advertising revenue to boot! I say we go with that one. :D

Actually, that earth-tone block at the end could very easily be a modular construction from the 'shit-a-brick' architectural school. There's not reason in the world that couldn't expand or shrink as needed by stacking more modules / containers on top. Best (worst) of both worlds.

As popular as the shipping-container behemoth has proven, I really think Rubina's latest suggestion (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12875840&postcount=29) is the best. Unbelievably ugly, mismatched phases, clashing architecture, suitably modern, and added advertising revenue to boot! I say we go with that one. :D

Okay. Still, we are going to put our shipping-containers on the roof anyway. And it's going to be our office. And if the building management complains, that's their problem.

You know, I quite like this one. Now, if we could replace the statue on top with one of Catherine Gratwick or the Yeldan "babyfight", it would be perfect. Or we can just call the statue something like "Memorial to the Unknown Pissed off Diplomat" or perhaps "The Arrogant Architect"Wasn't there a giant robot that climbed up the building sometime back? We could replace the statue with that.

Hey, UN Building Mgmt. would never have to worry about building new offices. Everyone could just add theirs to the top.

Hey! Some nations have things ON the roof.

Hey! Some nations have things ON the roof.Yeah. Where would we put the clothing-optional tanning area if not on the roof?!

We have a clothing-optional tanning area on the roof?!

You know, I just remembered something ... I have to go ... something about ... quorums and delegates ... proposal categorization ... whatever, I gotta go. Bye!

*races frantically for the elevator*

"Wait!" ...

Oh well... Guess he'll find out for himself that the only ones up there right now are the Ausslanders.

:D

Hey! Really short Ausserlander women are sexxxy! Just ask Auss himself (http://z11.invisionfree.com/NatSovOrg/index.php?showtopic=400)!

We have a clothing-optional tanning area on the roof?!

*races frantically for the elevator*

I know you're thinking this ...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/frisbeeteria/UN/sunbather.jpg

...but isn't it slightly more likely that UN delegates and their staff are more likely to be this ... ?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/frisbeeteria/UN/22613139.jpg

The official policy of the governmnent of Cobdenia is

"Any hole's a goal"

When the Most Wise and Beautified Empress Kou the third arrives to inspect the Otaku-do UN mission, please remind her guards not to leave her unattended with any of the Cobdenia government's representatives.

Yeah. Where would we put the clothing-optional tanning area if not on the roof?!

Hmmm i didn't know that, do we have a clothing-optional pool up there too?

I know you're thinking this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/frisbeeteria/UN/sunbather.jpg) ...

...but isn't it slightly more likely that UN delegates and their staff are more likely to be this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/frisbeeteria/UN/22613139.jpg) ... ?With all the stripper commandos, hooker secret agents, Karmicarian diplomats and hot secretaries who frequent these halls, we're not so sure. :p

It should evidently be either Brutalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brutalism) or Modernist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modernist_architecture) in style. I suggest the Torre Picasso (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torre_Picasso) in Madrid as a suitably bricklike structure.

Hmmm i didn't know that, do we have a clothing-optional pool up there too?

I'm not exactly sure that any part of this building isn't clothing-optional.

~Dr. Jules Hodz

How about this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ad/Buffalo_City_Hall_-_001.jpg/402px-Buffalo_City_Hall_-_001.jpg

Fairly ugly, about the right height, Art Deco-y, and imposing in the way public buildings ought to be

What's the obelisk in the front for? The Tomb of the Unknown Delegate?

It's so the stupider delegates know which way up is...

Top votes: Cob's latest, Cookesland's first, Rubina's ad-ridden monstrosity.

Fairly ugly, about the right height, Art Deco-y, and imposing in the way public buildings ought to be

... and that dome at the top could nicely house a spherical General Assembly akin to the Galactic Senate ...

http://www.rumrill.net/brian/pics/pics1/senate/galactic_senate_meeting.jpg

That's a horribly blurry picture, Fris. Either that or it was saved in Windows 95 in 256 color mode.

This one is better:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/53/Galacticsenate.jpg

Cool, i've always kinda thought the GA was like the Galatic Senate

I have Revit 9 so I could make a few all new buildings if that's all right.

Personally, I'd prefer actual pictures.

EDIT: On the other hand, looking at the Revit site, that would be interesting.

Sounds good to me; can you try and make something in a horrid mixture of styles? Perhaps a Art Deco four the first four floors, brutalist the next few, gothic revivial for a few more, etc...

I have Revit 9 so I could make a few all new buildings if that's all right.

I was hoping somebody would step up to the challenge. My friend who does architectural animation has moved.

Design spec: Must contain A General Assembly Hall capable of seating 30,000-40,000 delegates (could conceivably be half that size, as most nations vote virtually or never show up at all. Hell, a really big conference room might be big enough)
Offices for approximately the same number of delegations, including several speaking members and assorted staff.
Conference rooms that will handle between two and two hundred argumentative delegates, where they can hash out their proposals in a semblance of privacy
A large bar with at least a portion of it made to look like an old English Gentleman's Club, and another portion to be a smoky, dimly lit film noir jazz club. The windows on the bar must be large, frangible, and extremely easy to replace.
An annex with large spacious offices for all the International Organizations and Committees we've created. (Large freight corridors and dumpsters for all the ones we frequently repeal into non-existence)
A massive lobby with Gift Shop, including a tip jar (for the UN budget)
An enormous sub-basement with integrated internal high speed rail for rapid movement between offices, rail lines, airports, teleporters, and pretty much any other form of transport. (Ceiling height may be reduced to 1.5 m if necessary to save space. Most gnomes are shorter than that.) It need not appear in your diagram, but we have to know it's there.I'm sure there are things I've left out, and others that may be controversial. Feel free to add to the list.

I'd add:

-Forty stories high, but with a flat roof so that more can be added if neccessary (personally, I'd say only a limited number of countries actually have offices in the UN, the others sending in representatives to the GA from outside when needed)
-The General Assebly takes up four or five floors, so it's probably best to have the first four or five floors take up more space on the ground the those above so there's room for all the delegates in the GA
-Top floor should look derelict, if possible
-Roof should be spacious and be covered with antenna, satellite dishes, AA guns, etc.


Not sure how much of this is possible...

-Roof should be spacious and be covered with antenna, satellite dishes, AA guns, etc.
If you want to know what's on the roof, all you have to do is take a look at the Building Directory (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/UN_Headquarters#Roof).

OoC: I know; I wrote most of it originally:

Before I got my hands on it (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php?title=UN_Headquarters&oldid=146201)

After (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php?title=UN_Headquarters&oldid=146263)

:D:p

Rubina's ugliness will be added to the article, for the time-being. If a better suggestion comes along, we can change it.

Suggestion #3 (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w107/Cookesland/Republican-Party-Headquarters.jpg) :p

Thank you, Cookesland.

And now, Bob Dole will read from the Necronomicon.

just some suggestions:

twin towers:
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r5/z0rgg/JiangbeiTwins.jpg
green building, solar and wind powered:
http://www.linearchitecture.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/cormiami2.jpg
feminine shape:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/69/Theabsolute.jpg
bamboo shape:
http://static.flickr.com/89/208250984_809128c310_o.jpg
colored:
http://www.iwan.com/work/photography/instituut_voor_beeld_en_geluid/pix/beeld_en_geluid_5067.jpg
and a giant aquarium for the lobby:
http://www.arcspace.com/travel/radisson_berlin_hotel/4.Radisson.jpg