NationStates Jolt Archive

-And yes, I'll cut down the title at some point.
What I most want to know is whether the following proposal is legal, seeing as I've already recieved 2 mod warnings :) and I don't want another.
I suppose, I'd also like to know what you think about it, but not so much.

The statement, "No man is an island" is untrue, biased and chauvinistic.
It also undermines that fundemental right of humanity: that right to be declared an island.
THIS RESOLUTION WILL:
Agree that all men, women and children have the right to declare themselves islands, with the following results:
1) They may be renamed against their will
2) They may be fought over arduously and continously
3) They may be trodden underfoot (metaphorically, at least).
WHILE AT THE SAME TIME STRESSING THAT:
This is not far from the current state of affairs, and encoporates ALL genders, races, creeds etc. into its effect.

:)

May I be the first one to say that...

http://test256.free.fr/UN%20Cards/tpcard1kr.jpg

Wow I think I'm dumber just looking at that.

OOC:
What I most want to know is whether the following proposal is legal
I really, really doubt it: it doesn't appear to do anything or make any sense. Proposals have been deleted for being interminably vague before, a charge that could be justifiably be leveled against this one. (Not saying it would be enough to earn you a third warning, and obviously my opinion isn't official.) Also, 'no man is an island' is from Donne, so it would seem to border on a RL reference (I doubt this would get the proposal deleted in itself: stock phrases might be allowed.)

In any case, this proposal seems contradictory. If one is indeed an island, then why should the United Nations be of any relevance? And you need to explain why the phrase is 'untrue, biased and chauvinistic', or else I could simply write a proposal saying it is 'true, unbiased and not chauvinistic'.

I wouldn't, because it'd be completely pointless.

What I most want to know is whether the following proposal is legal, seeing as I've already recieved 2 mod warnings :) and I don't want another. I suppose, I'd also like to know what you think about it, but not so much.

I doubt it's legal. I also doubt, even if it was, that this would have a snowball's chance in hell of passage. The only thing I don't doubt is that this would be a good candidate for the "silly proposals" thread.

My immediate thought is that it's in violation of "Maritime Neutrality Convention", specifically 2) DEFINES “national waters”, for the purposes of this document, as the seas or ocean within the 12 nautical miles adjoining a national coastline; where a body of water is less then 25 nautical miles wide, a one nautical mile channel equidistant from the coastlines is to be considered as international waters,
Seems to me you can't simply 'declare' yourself an island without negotiating territorial release from the current owners of the land/water.

That, plus it's insufferably fluffy.

When I first saw this documents title I thought this was an artical that would advance the individual human beings personal rights. Now I see it's nothing but a ridiculous paper designed to turn a man into a landmass. It's a waste of time case closed.

(The representative then sits down and proceeds to read a book.)

While we encourage freedom in my country, I would like to see what would happen to some misminded citizen who declared themselves a separate "island." Not only is this illegal, it is insanity.

If people want to be their own island, let them set off in a boat, find a piece of land no one owns or wants, and declare themselves an anarchy...

An island? I realize that I've been putting on weight, but I don't think I could pass for an island!

llllllol

Supporting this on general principles.

Ah wonderful. An other silly and pointless resolution. I believe I have lost five or ten IQ points just from reading the draft.

I appeal to the author not to post this, since it's stupid. Also Comrade Gramiko doesn't have that many IQ points left to lose.

OOC: No man is an island.

But Chris Farley came close.

And people said I didn't need to include the "Bloody Stupid" violation...

Whatever Panageadom is taking, I'd like to get some.

Right. It's vague. I get that.
But what's so wrong?
Wherein is it detailed that human beings have no right to call themselves islands (optionally), and be treated as thus?
Should we not support this fundamental liberty?
-Along with all the other liberties: such as liberty to be annoying and rude (freedom of speech), to deeffecience the government and the rest of the poulace (freedom to life and liberty) and freedom to believe in monsters made of pasta (freedom of religion)?
What defferientiates this right to all those other rights? What?

Whatever Panageadom is taking, I'd like to get some.

OOC: I'm fairly certain he took it all... at once.

-Along with all the other liberties: such as liberty to be annoying and rude (freedom of speech), to deeffecience the government and the rest of the poulace (freedom to life and liberty) and freedom to believe in monsters made of pasta (freedom of religion)?
What defferientiates this right to all those other rights? What?

Well, you've got the right to post incomprehensible sentences with bizarrely misspelled words here on the forums, but there's no corresponding responsibility that the rest of us have to pay any attention to what you say. Even if we could understand it enough to pay attention.


* /me goes to deeffecience a banana for breakfast for my poulace,

said earlier but,

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w107/Cookesland/spongebobweed9gb.jpg


anywho If people want to be hermits, or "islands" then they just do and go live by themselves....

I appeal to the author not to post this, since it's stupid. Also Comrade Gramiko doesn't have that many IQ points left to lose.

Just so my colleagues know, I am not much worried about the IQ points I'll lose over reading bloody stupid drafts. They usually return after a few shots of J. V. Stalin Vodka and a couple pulls off a Proletarii Cigarette. However, should I be reduced to an idiot, Comrade Ulyanov, Our Glorious General Secretary, has assured me that I will be granted a place in one of the most premiere Mental Rehabilitation Centers in our nation, where I may be able to drool on myself in peace and quiet.

llllllol

Supporting this on general principles.

That's right, Axis. Be a rebel!

[QUOTE=Panageadom;12799570]Right. It's vague. I get that.
But what's so wrong?
Wherein is it detailed that human beings have no right to call themselves islands (optionally), and be treated as thus?
Should we not support this fundamental liberty?
-Along with all the other liberties: such as liberty to be annoying and rude (freedom of speech), to deeffecience the government and the rest of the poulace (freedom to life and liberty) and freedom to believe in monsters made of pasta (freedom of religion)?
What defferientiates this right to all those other rights? What?=QUOTE]

I don't think a lot of people want to make themselves official landmasses. It's just not worth our time. Only crazy people want to be islands. Hardly the majority of people the UN is supposed to serve.

Besides. I don't want to be an island. I want to be an isthmus. It's so much more fun to say.

Besides. I don't want to be an island. I want to be an isthmus. It's so much more fun to say.

Can I still be a peninsula? Please?

Can I still be a peninsula? Please?Oh, I suppose. You've been a good little poster lately.

I'm too big to be just one island, can I be an archipelago?

Who wants to be an island? With the onset of global warming
<<
>>
*wrings hands hysterically*

YOU"RE ALL GOING TO DROWN!!

;)

Well if we're all going to drown can i be a Sandbar? :p

Two crabs walk into a sand bar.... :D

Figured one would see it. :D

On a more serious note:

The TSRCP Politburo has convened, and has realized some important points regarding this matter of legislation:

Does an individual have a right to call himself an island? this would cause problems; many people in the sea, all declare themselves an island - each one may find themselves in another's space, this would lead to a violation of aforementioned resolution regarding maritime neutrality etc..

If, however, a special clause is appended to this draft, which exempts a person-island from such a law, then we would consider it.

Furthermore, this proposal can simply state that a man may declare himself to be a land-mass, or rather a nation; this poses the question of UN membership - can a man-land apply for UN membership

On the contrary, we would suggest that no person is indeed an island or any mass of land.

So, ignoring illogicity, and including said clause, this could, ahhh, become a legal motion?
Brilliant!
:)