NationStates Jolt Archive


My Submitted Proposal

Fahadia
28-04-2007, 01:13
1. children must complete grades k-12; it is illegal not to.
2. if you are too poor to pay for education, then it is not required.
3. at least 5% of the taxes government recieves must be devoted to education social welfare.
4. "drop-outs" will be classified as "outlaws" and criminals. All drop-outs will be arrested, unless they go back to school. the 2nd time and up they drop-out, they will be sent to jail.

BENEFITS:
1. our future leaders and labourers (the children!) will be very well educatated.
2. some taxes won't go to waste (if any taxes).
Shazbotdom
28-04-2007, 01:14
I believe something like this is already on the books. Except for the "outlaws" part. That shouldn't be the jurrisdiction of the United nation to determine what an outlaw is in a member nation. If this ever gets to a vote of the General Assembly(of which I doubt it will), we will vote it down.

--Understudy to the Shazbotdom Deligate
Gobbannium
28-04-2007, 03:46
Regrettably this proposal is illegal in a number of ways.

1. "grades k-12" is not a well-understood term. Or indeed a term understood at all in this nation. We suspect that defining it concretely in a way which will be universally applicable will be exceptionally difficult.

2 & 3. These articles are in direct conflict with the UN Educational Aid Act (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11663193&postcount=172), clause 6 of which states:

6. Entrusts nations with the right and responsibility to decide on the structure of their public education systems and the role of private institutions, mandatory, encouraged and prohibited subjects, skills and course elements in educational institutions, and the financing of educational programs, subject to previous UN legislation still in effect;
As you can see, legislating on how education is financed is not possible while this resolution remains in force.

4. Whilst outlawing dropping out is perfectly possible for a resolution to do, decreeing that jail time is mandatory for the second and subsequent offences is directly contradictory to the Fair Sentencing Act.

Finally, we must say that a proposal concerning education that does not use correct spelling or grammar is unlikely to win much support, even were it legal.
Hirota
03-05-2007, 21:47
Have to agree with the last point by Gobbanium - a proposal about education, should show some level of education ;)
Forgottenlands
03-05-2007, 22:00
2. if you are too poor to pay for education, then it is not required.

But you are declared an outlaw by #4

3. at least 5% of the taxes government recieves must be devoted to education social welfare.

5%? Do you have any idea how absurdly high that is? I doubt there's a national government in the world that puts that much money into education. Add on that I doubt those nations which have 100% taxes would be able to afford putting THAT much money into education while those nations with 0% taxes will be going "so? 5% of nothing is....dammit, if only I'd stayed in school a little longer."

Seriously, even if this were legal and SOMEHOW made it to quarom, it would be defeated by a large margin. It's quality is poor, it's principles are shocking, and its value isn't very high.

(EDIT: Yes, I know, I didn't use the Firefly joke. Shush.)
The Most Glorious Hack
04-05-2007, 08:29
5%? Do you have any idea how absurdly high that is? I doubt there's a national government in the world that puts that much money into education.50%+ here. Granted, zero percent tax rate, but I've always assumed that only means income tax. I figure there's a small amount of sales, luxury, or other taxes.

Or, heheheh, donations. Pfft. HA!
New Limacon
04-05-2007, 21:24
BENEFITS:
1. our future leaders and labourers (the children!) will be very well educatated. [my emphasis]


I agree with this in theory, but I do think this word should be fixed. It would make the point a little stronger.
ARK2
04-05-2007, 23:29
If you are proposing that K-12 education is mandatory and failure to remain in the education system is punishable by law, then there must be incentives for students who are living on or below the poverty line.

It would be more appropriate to propose an education-based law that provides more schools and teachers in underdeveloped regions, government assisted meal programs (to ensure that students are well nourished) and family assistance programs (so that children who attend school are given groceries and household supplies to take home to their families).