NationStates Jolt Archive


Proposals mean prizes!

Dashanzi
21-03-2007, 14:48
The United Nations,

RECOGNISING the importance in understanding and studying Art,

BELIEVING that by drawing attention to the field of Art the UN can promote the worldwide study of Art,

NOTING that many Artistic endeavours go unnoticed on the international stage,

WISHING to raise the profile of Artistic creations, endeavours and studies that can benefit all members of the United Nations,

SEEKING to accomplish both these noble goals of promoting Art and rewarding contributions to the field of Art,

HEREBY:

1) Establishes the United Nations Art Prize which will be awarded to the person, or persons, responsible for the greatest contribution to the field of Art over the past year,

2) Mandates the United Nations Awards Committee (UNAC) to determine the annual winner of the Prize,

3) Mandates the UNAC to award the prize based on the following criteria:

i) The work must be international in scope,
ii) It must have effects beyond the contributors' own nation(s),
iii) The work must have the potential to enrich the lives of people in all UN Member nations if experienced.

4) Encourages private donations to fund a monetary reward for the prize.
This being art, pretty much any piece can satisfy all criteria given the subjective nature of the field.

More prizes, delegates?

Benedictions,
Ithania
21-03-2007, 14:52
Congratulations, you just ruined my day… I think those who hypothesised the Economics Prize would lead to countless other resolutions are going to prove themselves right.

I hope all the different groups working on repeals behind the scenes will have a finished product soon.
Mikitivity
21-03-2007, 15:19
Congratulations, you just ruined my day… I think those who hypothesised the Economics Prize would lead to countless other resolutions are going to prove themselves right.

I hope all the different groups working on repeals behind the scenes will have a finished product soon.

Currently there are 6 pages of proposals. The first two pages have the normal varied content -- including one proposal to ban tariffs completely and another to make them completely (unilaterally) legal. Apparently some nations like the one-size fits all approach that was being advocated for during the awards debate.

The third page had another Free Trade proposal -- again one size fits all. But no awards proposals yet.

Page 4 was clear -- and about the time that it was clear that the prize resolution was near to pass.

Page 5 resolved to give everybody pie. Yes, just that. Otherwise no awards for *special* things. Just pie.

Page 6 had yet another proposal from the EVIL Molten Robots, whom are attempting to trick us into destroying our sun.

Now what I do not know if is the moderators recently sweeped the queue clean of copy-cat proposals. But asssuming that one were to copy the form / idea of the recently passed resolution, no prize proposals have made a prolonged / lasting appearance.

That said, I would expect one or two similar proposals to appear in the next week. And they should. Many nations complained that art (the subject of this thread) was not recognized.
Kivisto
21-03-2007, 15:26
I hope all the different groups working on repeals behind the scenes will have a finished product soon.

At least one individual who was planning on drafting a repeal was also planning on submitting a number of other prize proposals to keep the subject fresh in mind. Granted, that particular author has never been big on copycatting, so his submissions may not come as frequently, but they are more likely to stay in the list, which should give everyone a chance to consider how phrenology could improve their lives.
Cluichstan
21-03-2007, 15:34
At least one individual who was planning on drafting a repeal was also planning on submitting a number of other prize proposals to keep the subject fresh in mind. Granted, that particular author has never been big on copycatting, so his submissions may not come as frequently, but they are more likely to stay in the list, which should give everyone a chance to consider how phrenology could improve their lives.


The phrenology draft was meant only as a joke -- well, one with a point, though -- and will not be submitted (OOC: I could, of course, phrase it such that it'd be perfectly legal, but given my history, I'd probably get booted from the UN for silliness again). However, that doesn't mean that other, more valid fields of study can't be used.

Thanks go to the representative for Dashanzi for getting the ball rolling, though.

Respectfully,
Sheik Nadnerb bin Cluich
Cluichstani Ambassador to the UN
Retired WerePenguins
21-03-2007, 17:02
:headbang: How can you have art "international" in scope? You're not talking about one of those stupid "let's drape frabric Across many international borders" type of art are you?

Oh wait, this was a joke wasn't it. Nevermind.
A parody perhaps? One that crosses internationa borders?
Yes it's art. Congratulations you win your own prize. :p
Dashanzi
21-03-2007, 17:52
Of course art can be international in scope. Art can be pretty much anything in scope.

Benedictions,
David6
21-03-2007, 18:39
This wouldn't annoy me if it were done in a way that were actually funny.
Ithania
21-03-2007, 18:44
I don’t think this is really intended to be funny in that way dear; it’s intended to be legitimate-ish so that it proves the stupidity of a certain small group of individuals within a very legitimate organisation for being so narrowly focused in their efforts.

Normally special interests wouldn't annoy me but their irrational selfish-interest has left us in quite the pickle.
Dashanzi
21-03-2007, 18:48
This wouldn't annoy me if it were done in a way that were actually funny.
It seems that my low-wit approach has elicited the desired response. Splendid.

Benedictions,
-MU-MU-
21-03-2007, 19:07
It seems that my low-wit approach has elicited the desired response. Splendid.the ambassador from MU MU struggles to contain his laughter

Ahem....very nicely done.
Cluichstan
21-03-2007, 19:43
It seems that my low-wit approach has elicited the desired response. Splendid.

Well played indeed, my friend!

Respectfully,
Sheik Nadnerb bin Cluich
Cluichstani Ambassador to the UN
Ardchoillean Admin
22-03-2007, 01:17
This wouldn't annoy me if it were done in a way that were actually funny.

Then let us draw up appropriate legislation for the International Comedy Prize!

(Though I suspect Dashanzi would be a shoo-in for that, too.)
Gobbannium
22-03-2007, 04:30
Pardon our confusion, but since we personally regard Art as being every bit as important to national and social well-being as Economics, we were quite looking forward to voting for this proposal. If the honorable representative is now informing us that it is humour, we find ourselves somewhat saddened at the prospect. What profits it to feed the wallet and not the soul, after all?
Cluichstan
22-03-2007, 04:37
Then let us draw up appropriate legislation for the International Comedy Prize!

(Though I suspect Dashanzi would be a shoo-in for that, too.)

Sheik Nadnerb hits the Ardchoillean representative with a rubber chicken. "I get no respect...no respect, I tell ya..."

He then runs off to the Stranger's Bar.
Mikitivity
22-03-2007, 05:48
Pardon our confusion, but since we personally regard Art as being every bit as important to national and social well-being as Economics, we were quite looking forward to voting for this proposal. If the honorable representative is now informing us that it is humour, we find ourselves somewhat saddened at the prospect. What profits it to feed the wallet and not the soul, after all?

It is not currently in the proposal queue. For that matter there are no proposals for awards in the queue at this time (and this is based on 9 pages of proposals -- including one promoting pies and another promoting cakes).
Ardchoillean Admin
22-03-2007, 06:22
Sheik Nadnerb hits the Ardchoillean representative with a rubber chicken. "I get no respect...no respect, I tell ya..."

He then runs off to the Stranger's Bar.

The rear half of a pantomine horse rises from the Ardchoillean delegation's seats and galumphs after the Sheik, neighing thirstily.

(Take in small dog, string of sausages, large fat woman, red flannel drawers, banana peel, klaxon, small skinny man, ducks, parrots, bosomy ingenue, front half of horse ....)
The European Islands
22-03-2007, 06:29
I simply do not see any reason for this proposal. Our government is not concerned about art, we are concerned about military spending, organ donations, and whether or not gambling should be legalized. There just isn't enough time to worry about art here. However, I am not speaking for other countries. If this was at vote, we wouldn't complain, but we wouldn't care, either.

Alex K. Nordolf, Official Ambassador for the European Islands, 2007
Dashanzi
23-03-2007, 13:52
For that matter there are no proposals for awards in the queue at this time (and this is based on 9 pages of proposals -- including one promoting pies and another promoting cakes).
This is unfortunate. Precedent has been set: the UN wishes to reward notable endeavours and has determined that the best way of doing so is via repetitive, time-consuming, subject-specific legislation. We have dug our grave; let us now lie in it, pen and paper at the ready.

Benedictions,
Mikitivity
23-03-2007, 15:18
This is unfortunate. Precedent has been set: the UN wishes to reward notable endeavours and has determined that the best way of doing so is via repetitive, time-consuming, subject-specific legislation. We have dug our grave; let us now lie in it, pen and paper at the ready.

Benedictions,

Actually naysayers promised that the proposal queue would have been literally flooded with copy-cat proposals should the previous resolution have passed. It did, nothing happened. Not even a token submission by one of the naysayers in order back up their predictions (which BTW I actually do respect that they've not attempt to submit anything they didn't really back).

My point is only to remind people that some of the arguments against the previous resolution were not as strong as they were made out to be at the time. This is not to say that a copy-cat proposal will not sneak into the queue in the next few weeks. I hope a few do! And this is not to undermine other arguments such as art >= economics (something I'm not taking a position on, but it was stated several times).
Cluichstan
23-03-2007, 15:49
Actually naysayers promised that the proposal queue would have been literally flooded with copy-cat proposals should the previous resolution have passed. It did, nothing happened. Not even a token submission by one of the naysayers in order back up their predictions...

Oh, but you're wrong (http://nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=medical), my friend. ;)
Retired WerePenguins
23-03-2007, 15:54
Oh, but you're wrong (http://nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=medical), my friend. ;)

That's because YOU HAVE NO SHAME! :p

Besides as of the time I'm writing this you have Approvals: 0 :D
Cluichstan
23-03-2007, 15:56
That's because YOU HAVE NO SHAME! :p

Besides as of the time I'm writing this you have Approvals: 0 :D

I submitted it about five minutes ago. Whaddaya expect?

Oh, and yeah, I have no shame. Y'all should know that by now. ;)
Dashanzi
23-03-2007, 16:10
Actually naysayers promised that the proposal queue would have been literally flooded with copy-cat proposals should the previous resolution have passed. It did, nothing happened. Not even a token submission by one of the naysayers in order back up their predictions (which BTW I actually do respect that they've not attempt to submit anything they didn't really back).

My point is only to remind people that some of the arguments against the previous resolution were not as strong as they were made out to be at the time. This is not to say that a copy-cat proposal will not sneak into the queue in the next few weeks. I hope a few do! And this is not to undermine other arguments such as art >= economics (something I'm not taking a position on, but it was stated several times).
My argument has never been that the proposal queue would be flooded with 'copy-cats', rather that it should be on the passage of the resolution in question. We have elevated the field of economics, placed it on a lofty pedestal. If this is the path it has been determined we must take, then what follows is obvious, else we show ourselves to by hypocrites and charlatans of the highest order.

Benedictions,
Cluichstan
23-03-2007, 16:14
My argument has never been that the proposal queue would be flooded with 'copy-cats', rather that it should be on the passage of the resolution in question. We have elevated the field of economics, placed it on a lofty pedestal. If this is the path it has been determined we must take, then what follows is obvious, else we show ourselves to by hypocrites and charlatans of the highest order.


I trust, then, you'll come up with another to follow mine, my friend?

Respectfully,
Sheik Nadnerb bin Cluich
Cluichstani Ambassador to the UN
Dashanzi
23-03-2007, 18:27
I trust, then, you'll come up with another to follow mine, my friend?

Respectfully,
Sheik Nadnerb bin Cluich
Cluichstani Ambassador to the UN
* ooc: 'art' has been submitted and that's that for the time being, else I suspect I'll have to eat my own brain to stave off boredom. *
Cluichstan
23-03-2007, 21:33
OOC: Well done. I plan on coming up with a few others myself. ;)
Mikitivity
24-03-2007, 03:25
Oh, but you're wrong (http://nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=medical), my friend. ;)

At the time I wasn't. ;)