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Proposal United Nations Resolution: Gender Disparity in Education

Gender Disparity in Education
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: South Eire

Description: Elimination of gender disparity in primary and secondary education by 2015


Having examined although most young people have access to some schooling, many million young men and even more young women aged 15-24 in developing countries cannot read or write,

Observing that women remain a small minority in salaried jobs in many regions of the world, while in abundance in the informal economy,

Deeply concerned that gender disparities tend to increase in higher level of education especially in developing regions where it worsens when girls enter secondary school and later go to university,

Noting with approval in all regions, women are gaining access to literacy and education, and at a faster rate than men,

1. Calls for the human rights of girls, and advocates for their equal access to education, health and developmental opportunities;

2. Recommends reaching out to community leaders and policy-makers to garner their commitment and active advocacy in eliminating discrimination against girls and in providing gender-sensitive alternatives and role models for boys;

3. Encourages that developing countries establish laws that enable women to be treated the same way as their male counterparts such as equal job opportunities;

4. Ensure that, by 2015, children everywhere, boys and girls alike, will be able to complete a full course of primary schooling;

5. Requests that all children especially girls in difficult circumstances and those belonging to ethnic minorities, have access to a free, compulsory and good form of primary education.

if interested in voting for this resolution, please click here (http://www.nationstates.net/77264/page=UN_proposal/start=10)

If anyone is unsure or has a question please state so as a post.

1. Are you going to provide for freedom of religon

2. Who pays for this in developing nations

3. Define a primary education.

Oh, and do boys in these difficult circumstances also get access to the free compulsory and "good" education? Otherwise this resolution is downright sexist.

By 2015, eh? So, nations that exist in their own little bubbles of time and are still in the 1930's don't have to worry about it for a very long time.

Observing that women remain a small minority in salaried jobs in many regions of the world, while in abundance in the informal economy,

Not in my nation. The women of my nation are actually in the majority on this one. I'm not saying that the men have lesser jobs or get paid less than the women, my nation just happens to be run by a woman and most of the important jobs go to women, if they are qualified.

(OOC) It looks to me that you have taken your information directly from the real world, which is difficult not to do, but what happens in RL doesn't necessarily happen in the NationStates world. Also, this looks like it's skirting on the edge of feminist clap-trap.

I believe clauses 4 and 5 have been somewhat covered in previous resolutions. I'd recommend you combine them into a single clause and change the language to "REITERATES that children of any gender should be afforded an equal access to a free primary education."

The element you might consider adding to your proposed resolution is something about gendericide (sp?). This is a sticky subject, because it touches upon abortion, albeit it technically is really about trying to select the gender of your child. The way I'd go about combating this is to encourage governments to actually discourage the practice.

First of all, I would like to welcome the honourable representative of South Eire to the United Nations. Hang in there.

This isn't bad at all for a first draft. A few comments:


Description: Elimination of gender disparity in primary and secondary education by 2015

(OOC: Not all nations are in 2007. Some are in the past, some in the future.)


Having examined although most young people


Having examined that, although most young people... Better still: "Having noted" / "Having observed"...

Also, your sentence needs a subject, either at the beginning or at the end. "The United Nations, Having examined..." or "Having examined..., the United Nations...".


Observing that women remain a small minority in salaried jobs in many regions of the world, while in abundance in the informal economy,


You say this as if participation in the "informal economy" were a bad thing. Also, you don't define "informal economy". Anything that isn't salaried? If so, that would cover many forms of traditional, non-monetary economies, and may be taken as insulting.


4. Ensure that, by 2015, children everywhere, boys and girls alike, will be able to complete a full course of primary schooling;


What's the beginning of this sentence? How do you intend to ensure this?


Christelle Zyryanov (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Christelle_Zyryanov),
Ambassador to the United Nations,
PDSRA

(OOC) It looks to me that you have taken your information directly from the real world, which is difficult not to do, but what happens in RL doesn't necessarily happen in the NationStates world. Also, this looks like it's skirting on the edge of feminist clap-trap.

OOC: Skirting on the edge? Interesting use of an oppressive patriarchal metaphor, you evil anti-feminist! ;)

OOC: Skirting on the edge? Interesting use of an oppressive patriarchal metaphor, you evil anti-feminist! ;)

OOC: Ouch, darling. Now you're making me want to delve into a discussion that doesn't belong in the UN forum. Evil anti-feminist? Not quite, my friend. ;)

Here's our biggest problem, Seabear70 does not have a gender problem. We dealt withall tht back in the sexual revolution, It was a bloody viscous time which decimated our population.

And now that we have put all that behind us, you would have us pigenhole women into situations that they do not choose to be in?

We can support clause 1, consider clause 2 social engineering, think clause 3 has a snowballs chance in hell of actually accomplish anything, consider claiuse 4 to be so vague that it defies comprehension, and think clause 5 is so gender biased that we wold never stand for it in our country.

Sorry, but you will not have Seabear70's support.

Here's our biggest problem, Seabear70 does not have a gender problem. We dealt withall tht back in the sexual revolution, It was a bloody viscous time which decimated our population.

And now that we have put all that behind us, you would have us pigenhole women into situations that they do not choose to be in?

We can support clause 1, consider clause 2 social engineering, think clause 3 has a snowballs chance in hell of actually accomplish anything, consider claiuse 4 to be so vague that it defies comprehension, and think clause 5 is so gender biased that we wold never stand for it in our country.

Sorry, but you will not have Seabear70's support.

March 16, 2007

Seabear70,

I do understand your position, for you have already dealt with the issue of discrimination against women.

I applaud you for this.

My resolution however applies to those you have not yet dealt with this issue.

I encourage you to vote for this resolution so that the international community can arrive to the same position you are in.

Again I applaud you for your prior efforts in removing any discrimination against women.

James O'Callahan
PM of South Eire

Moving past the sizzle, let's get to the steak of this proposal:

1. Calls for the human rights of girls, and advocates for their equal access to education, health and developmental opportunities;

We can accept this, as we already provide this in Altanar. In fact, we find the concept of gender discrimination confusing, as women have always had the same rights and responsibilities as men in our society.

2. Recommends reaching out to community leaders and policy-makers to garner their commitment and active advocacy in eliminating discrimination against girls and in providing gender-sensitive alternatives and role models for boys;
3. Encourages that developing countries establish laws that enable women to be treated the same way as their male counterparts such as equal job opportunities;

We can accept these provisions as well, as we can see that they are (unfortunately) still required in some societies.

4. Ensure that, by 2015, children everywhere, boys and girls alike, will be able to complete a full course of primary schooling;

This is the big problem with the whole ball of wax here. As others have asked, how do you plan to ensure this? More detail is needed. Also, since school systems differ widely between nations, how do you define a "full course" of schooling? And why stop at primary schooling? If you're going to cover schooling at all, we'd add secondary schooling to the list.

5. Requests that all children especially girls in difficult circumstances and those belonging to ethnic minorities, have access to a free, compulsory and good form of primary education.

It is also amazing to us that some nations don't already offer this. We have no problem with this clause, except we'd add secondary schooling here as well. Also, "good" is too subjective.

Overall, a good effort, but clause 4 needs a lot of work.

- Jinella Agaranth, Ambassador

2015 what? 2015 AC is quite a while in the future, 2015 ZR is long in the past. Since those are the only time systems Paradica recognizes, and none is specified in the proposal, my government can only assume you mean one of those.

Roderick Spear
Paradican Ambassador to the UN

This is a good first effort at writing a proposal, although we see a number of problems. The main one is that there are already a number of resolutions on the books dealing with rights, discrimination, and education. Our first reaction to this draft was: "What does this do that the others don't"?

We'd suggest the representative of South Eire spend some time studying those existing resolutions. (This is a good tool for doing that: Index_of_UN_Resolutions (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Index_of_UN_Resolutions)). This proposal should be focused on and limited to closing any existing gaps.

Travilia E. Thwerdock
Ambassador to the United Nations

March 16, 2007

Seabear70,

I do understand your position, for you have already dealt with the issue of discrimination against women.

I applaud you for this.

My resolution however applies to those you have not yet dealt with this issue.

I encourage you to vote for this resolution so that the international community can arrive to the same position you are in.

Again I applaud you for your prior efforts in removing any discrimination against women.

James O'Callahan
PM of South Eire

The problem is that your resolution is so gender biased that it makes women a protected class rather than making them equals.

Equality is not about the past, it's about the now.

And as for our efforts to remove gender descrimination, we didn't remove it, it removed itself starting with "The Night All Women Had PMS Simultaneously" Considering that all women and men recieve military training and that virtually all are armed, this was not a night that is remembered fondly.

Strangely, it was the few unarmed women that actually started the riots and did the most damage. You'd be amazed what a woman who is fed up with percieved slights can do with a chair leg, especially against men who had up to that point recieved extensive sensitivity training telling them that they were not to ever harm a woman under any circumstances.

In the first few hours over 10,000 members of the armed militia were beaten to death and their weapons stripped from their dead bodies. If the women of the militia had not managed to come across a hoard of pamprin and turn the tide, then it is doubtful there would have ever been another generation of Seabearians.

As it was, after the kordite smoke had cleared, and the bodies were barried, the women who had saved us banned together and demanded that men once and for all time knock this shit off and actually treat them like the people they are instead of as idealized concepts.

Our constitution was rewritten soon afterwards to reflect that humanbeings are individuals with individual strengths rarely related to gender, and that certain jobs have specific requirements that all people must meet.

The greatest noticable effect of this, other than the drop in 108 pound women applying to be firefighters, is that all gender quotas were dropped from the government and industry, and more women have entered the workplace.

Women, now making up roughly 57% of the population of Seabear70 now bring in roughly 49% of the income, however, adjusted for education and time on the job, it is a perfectly even distribution of income with minor statistical variances from study to study.

At the same time, we realize, and embrace that there are differences between the sexes. Men, can now actually bear and have children, but not without signifficant medical intervention, and very few choose to do this, as a result, women will take time off from work to have children, that's just reality. And if a woman does choose to have a child, that will effect their income.

This is not punishment, it is an acknoledgement that both work and childrearing are a choice, and that deciding between them is the option of the woman. We apply no stigma to either. Nor do we apply a stigma to women that choose to stay at home and raise children, infact these are among the most celebrated women in Seabear70, and they are one of the few classes that may apply for a deferment to deploy with the militia, though they are required to maintain training.

Right now, our women's movement is pushing to provide representation for men in Abortion, so that in the case of a legally concieved child, the father is allowed to petition the courts to block an abortion. We are treading lightly on this one, and it will likely come down to a nationwide vote.

The problem is that your resolution is so gender biased that it makes women a protected class rather than making them equals.

Equality is not about the past, it's about the now.

<History of Seabear 70 removed>

Most folks around here write responses that are actually responses to the topic at hand, not long discourse on their perceived nation history. If you want to write the History of Seabear 70, get a NSwiki page. You're doing this almost everywhere, and it's topic hijacking. Knock it off.

Most folks around here write responses that are actually responses to the topic at hand, not long discourse on their perceived nation history. If you want to write the History of Seabear 70, get a NSwiki page. You're doing this almost everywhere, and it's topic hijacking. Knock it off.

Sorry, I thought it would make my objection more understandable and far more readable.

Simply stating that I was for or against a specific resolution would leave questions as to my motive, the method I chose gives a background and a clear explanation of the reasons for my objection.

(OOC) It looks to me that you have taken your information directly from the real world, which is difficult not to do, but what happens in RL doesn't necessarily happen in the NationStates world. Also, this looks like it's skirting on the edge of feminist clap-trap.

(OOC) Being inspired by the real world is perfectly acceptable, and the general male dominated world model is a solid NS idea enshrined in daily issues even though matriarchial nations like yours and mine exist. Resolution #62 Female Genital Mutilation (http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_past_resolutions/start=61) is clearly along similiar lines of gender oppression.

Now that the nit picking is under way, welcome to the fine land of NS resolution writing. You will find that there is a whole lot of things that you can't take for granted in writing a UN resolution, the current year is one of them. In many ways the NS emperor has no clothes, so it's best to pretend he has but not actualy talk about what they look like. It's a vast vague multiverse out there and resolutions need to be appropriately vague. Otherwise you have the start of something good. I would reccomend going to an off forum site where helpful people will be found, like Reclamation (http://s15.invisionfree.com/Reclamation/index.php?act=idx).