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Re: War on Global Warming

Left Euphoria
21-02-2007, 19:35
I have submitted my proposal to the UN for voting. I hope to have the support of all UN regional delegates and all UN member nations.
Kivisto
21-02-2007, 19:39
For ease of reference, here's the proposal in question:


A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.


Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses
Proposed by: Left Euphoria

Description: The United Nations,

Alarmed by the damage done by men with money to our mother, the Earth,

Noting that terrorism is an insignificant threat compared to that of Global Warming,

Recognizing that Global Warming is the key to saving life on this planet,

Further recognizing that we'll all be dead in five years from Global Warming due to floods, famines, storms, meteor strikes, solar activity and alien invasions caused by Global Warming,

The UN General Assembly will create a panel charged with the formation of committees whose responsibility will be to redeploy all military personel from any and all activities they may be currently engaged in to fight a global war against Global Warming and to command them in this conflict.

The panel, which from here on shall be known as the Intergovernmental Panel on Committee Compilation for Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming or IPCCCAGW, will be composed of appointed politicians from all nations who recognize Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming as a serious and real threat. It's duties will include the formation and regulation of committees to lead the fight against global warming.

1) The IPCCCAGW will be required to create two committees but may create as many as it sees fit to carry out the mission of saving Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming.

2)The first will be charged with enacting international laws and fines against any corporation and/or individual who could potentially contribute in any way to Global Warming to fund both the IPCCCAGW and its committees.
2a)The committee will be free to exempt any corporation or individual from said fines and laws.

3)The second will be charged with the actual redeployment of all military forces to fight Global Warming.
3a) This committee may declare marshall law in any area it finds to be too polluted and order military action within said area to reduce pollution levels and their sources.

4) Urges all nations to silence any disagreement over the issue of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming as it only serves to hinder progressive policy.
Quintessence of Dust
21-02-2007, 19:57
You know when a mod tells you your proposal is illegal...?
Kivisto
21-02-2007, 20:18
Now for an actual evaluation.


Description: The United Nations,

Alarmed by the damage done by men with money to our mother, the Earth,

We'll ignore the sexist implications and direct our comments to the "money" thing. Seeing as environmentally friendly practices are generally less cost efficient and require a great deal of capital to initiate, you will find that a great deal more environmental damage is caused by developing nations that can scarce afford to utilize more ecologically sound technologies.

"Men With Money". Cute. It makess for a great catch phrase to refer to evil capitalistic despots that must be the root of all of the world's ills. It fails to meet standards of truth, however. It's slander, pure and simple, and insulting that you would have us believe it.

Noting that terrorism is an insignificant threat compared to that of Global Warming,

Aside from the natural debate over which of these problems is more of a threat in the short or long term, also glossing over whether or not Global Warming is indeed a significant issue facing the NationStates world, I'll instead simply state that this line serves absolutely no purpose other than to be belligerent. It should have been stricken before submission.

Recognizing that Global Warming is the key to saving life on this planet,

I think you mean to say that stopping the progress of global warming is the key to saving life. Other than that, we return to the issue that there is no substantive evidence to demonstrate that global warming is an issue within NationStates. Remember, NS=/=RL.

Further recognizing that we'll all be dead in five years from Global Warming

Even if RL=NS, your statement here is logically fallacious and stands as little more than fear mongering.

due to floods, famines, storms, meteor strikes, solar activity and alien invasions caused by Global Warming,

Extra-spacial activities will not be affected by global warming. You are also neglecting the theories that the melting of the polar icecaps (a thought which I personally fear) will cause a complete upset of the global ecosystem and catalyze a new ice age.

The UN General Assembly will create a panel charged with the formation of committees whose responsibility will be to redeploy all military personel from any and all activities they may be currently engaged in to fight a global war against Global Warming and to command them in this conflict.

What, exactly, are the militaries of the world supposed to do to combat global warming? Further, it is illegal for the UN to take charge of any military force.

The panel, which from here on shall be known as the Intergovernmental Panel on Committee Compilation for Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming or IPCCCAGW, will be composed of appointed politicians from all nations who recognize Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming as a serious and real threat. It's duties will include the formation and regulation of committees to lead the fight against global warming.

A committee with illegally appointed members whose primary function is to create other committees. That is special in a way that gets a bus built for one.

1) The IPCCCAGW will be required to create two committees but may create as many as it sees fit to carry out the mission of saving Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming.

Spectacular.

2)The first will be charged with enacting international laws and fines against any corporation and/or individual who could potentially contribute in any way to Global Warming to fund both the IPCCCAGW and its committees.

Who could potentially contribute? Brilliant. I could direct you to a few fields filled with cows that are greatly increasing atmospheric methane levels.

2a)The committee will be free to exempt any corporation or individual from said fines and laws.

That doesn't make it sound like they'd be open to bribes at all. Nope. No bias possible here.

3)The second will be charged with the actual redeployment of all military forces to fight Global Warming.

The UN does not get to take control of any military. The militaries of the planet have no weaponry available that can combat global warming.

3a) This committee may declare marshall law in any area it finds to be too polluted and order military action within said area to reduce pollution levels and their sources.

The word is Martial. And there goes most of the third world.

4) Urges all nations to silence any disagreement over the issue of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming as it only serves to hinder progressive policy.

Silencing all dissenters. That's a great human rights stance you've got yourself there.

Approvals: 0

I doubt that this is going to increas overmuch.

The Protectorate of Kivistan UN Bordello has not approved this proposal.

Nor are we likely to. I'm left with the feeling that this whole thing is a joke, in which case it should not have been submitted. There are easily a half dozen things about it that are illegal, and most of the rest is offensive.

I'd suggest going here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=420465) to read the rules for UN proposals that are currently in force.
David6
21-02-2007, 20:48
I hope this is a joke.
Hirota
21-02-2007, 20:57
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12349046&postcount=12
Altanar
21-02-2007, 23:22
Your idiocy truly knows no bounds. Please quit wasting our time. If you want to be a joke of a nation, that's all well and good, but find some other sandbox to play in.
Left Euphoria
21-02-2007, 23:27
Several have asked how exactly would the militaries of the could combat global warming. This was addressed in the discussion during the drafting of the resolution. The military would fight Global Warming by destroying polluting factories and corporations and by shooting into the air directly overhead in heavily polluted and/or environmentally sensitvie areas such as forests and densly populated cities to destroy air pollution.

The reason for clause 4 is because dissent only serves to hinder progressive policy such as this and can only come from corporate hacks. Anyone who stands in the way of progressive socio-economic policy will always and only be doing it because corporations are paying them to do so.

There are already 2 approvals; South Lorenya and Stomant.
Cobdenia
21-02-2007, 23:41
Oh for fuck sake
Left Euphoria
22-02-2007, 00:24
Approvals: 8 (South Lorenya, Stomant, Tellarites, Misplaced States, Understood correctnes, Zigbigadorlou, Cypherspace, All-Joneses).

I'd like to take a moment to thank these delegates for their support of this proposal.
Kivisto
22-02-2007, 02:29
Approvals: 8 (South Lorenya, Stomant, Tellarites, Misplaced States, Understood correctnes, Zigbigadorlou, Cypherspace, All-Joneses).

I'd like to take a moment to thank these delegates for their support of this proposal.

Thank them all you want. It's still illegal and will never reach vote. Have a nice day.
Flibbleites
22-02-2007, 05:40
Approvals: 8 (South Lorenya, Stomant, Tellarites, Misplaced States, Understood correctnes, Zigbigadorlou, Cypherspace, All-Joneses).

I'd like to take a moment to thank these delegates for their support of this proposal.

Wow, it's so bad WZ Forums won't approve it.yeah, I know he probably just hasn't gotten to it yet.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative
[NS]The Wolf Guardians
22-02-2007, 06:09
Wow, it's so bad WZ Forums won't approve it.yeah, I know he probably just hasn't gotten to it yet.


That is REALLY awful. The Pinnacle of Awfulness, if you ask me.


"Alien invasions? Meteor strikes?" What are you on, and where the hell can I get some?
Left Euphoria
22-02-2007, 06:46
Sometimes it's ok to lie. Like when you know what's good for people more than they do. Or when it's for a good cause.

If this resolution doesn't pass I'll just write another one. Maybe one that bans cars or all forms of private transit. Or maybe one that outlaws private ownership in UN member nations.
Allech-Atreus
22-02-2007, 06:48
Sometimes it's ok to lie. Like when you know what's good for people more than they do. Or when it's for a good cause.

If this resolution doesn't pass I'll just write another one. Maybe one that bans cars or all forms of private transit. Or maybe one that outlaws private ownership in UN member nations.

And you would be punished for submitting illegal proposals.

But please, don't let that stop you. All the better!
[NS]The Wolf Guardians
22-02-2007, 07:14
What the hell is the point of submitting resolutions you know won't pass? If you want to bring about massive change to the universe, you really have to use baby steps. In the current NS Multiverse, writing such a resolution serves NO purpose, because it WON'T pass. Most people will write it off, as we have, as crap, and will ignore you and everything you do. If you plan on PASSING things, you better start taking it more seriously, and make less fundamental changes. At least, in each proposal.

And intentionally and poorly LYING to this august body is despicable. Despite the fact that there are a great number of idiots in the multiverse, you're not going to fool anyone with blatant bullshit. Please, just plain don't do this. Anymore.

AND, don't just write proposals just because you have a god-complex. Write them because you seriously want to change things for the better. And, once again, keep the logistics of the change in mind.
The Most Glorious Hack
22-02-2007, 09:33
Remember how I said it was blatantly illegal and a waste of the UN's time? Yeah? Do you know what happens when you ignore a direct ruling by a Moderator on a UN Proposal?

Well, you do now.

Also, there's already a thread on this train wreck of a Proposal, making this one unnecessary spam. Locked.

-The Most Glorious Hack
NationStates Game Moderator