NationStates Jolt Archive


Slavery

Ursarcadia
02-02-2007, 21:31
I believe that in order to expand weaker economies within our borders, enslavement of prisoners of war and criminals should be an institutional way to encourage foreign companies to invest into these above mentioned nations.
Cluichstan
02-02-2007, 22:01
Yeah, you're gonna go far with that idea... :rolleyes:
Kivisto
02-02-2007, 22:10
Yeah, you're gonna go far with that idea... :rolleyes:

Remarkably more tactful than I was going to be with it.
Karmicaria
02-02-2007, 22:12
Let me start off by saying welcome to the UN. Now, on to what you have "proposed".

There are a few things that you would need to do first. I think a repeal of "End Slavery (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7029586&postcount=7)" would be needed, but repealing it would be a pain. However, if you're really serious about doing this, I'm sure you'll give it a shot.

Next, what nations are you talking about? It's not stated anywhere except in the line "above mentioned nations".

Next, I don't see how enslaving prisoners of war and criminals will encourage foreign nations to invest in whatever nations do this.

Also, you may have a weak economy, but there are plenty of us that do not.

This isn't going to fly.
Cluichstan
02-02-2007, 22:15
Remarkably more tactful than I was going to be with it.

I can show restraint sometimes, y'know. ;)
Hirota
02-02-2007, 22:59
I believe that in order to expand weaker economies within our borders, enslavement of prisoners of war and criminals should be an institutional way to encourage foreign companies to invest into these above mentioned nations.I tell you what kid, I'll liberate your little state and implement positive reforms. Then when Hirota has dragged your nation out of the stone age, then we might let you become an independent state once more, complete with a strong economy, and progressive intelligent population.

Arn't we nice?
Dancing Bananland
03-02-2007, 01:03
I believe that in order to expand weaker economies within our borders, enslavement of prisoners of war and criminals should be an institutional way to encourage foreign companies to invest into these above mentioned nations.

Good for you! But next time you have a great idea, try writing a proposal about it.
Quintessence of Dust
03-02-2007, 14:50
There's nothing stopping you doing this. Slavery isn't illegal.
Cookesland
03-02-2007, 15:05
Well if he wants to make it legal tell him to write it out in a proper proposal
The Most Glorious Hack
03-02-2007, 15:11
There's nothing stopping you doing this. Slavery isn't illegal.Um...
Quintessence of Dust
03-02-2007, 15:15
"End Slavery" doesn't ban slavery or enslavement; it just bans buying and selling of people. And I don't see anything in "Wolfish Convention on POW" that would prohibit enslaving prisoners of war, so long as the work isn't excessively dangerous. So I don't see why Ursarcadia couldn't do these things already.
Cookesland
03-02-2007, 15:37
"End Slavery" doesn't ban slavery or enslavement; it just bans buying and selling of people.

thats kinda what slavery is...
Quintessence of Dust
03-02-2007, 15:41
thats kinda what slavery is...
No, it's not. End Slavery doesn't compel people to release those who are already slaves; and it doesn't prohibition ownership of persons, thereby allowing someone to acquire slaves anyway, so long as they're not bought.

To put it another way: can you cite the language in Resolution #6 that would prohibit the petitioning nation from enacting the policies they've advocated?
Cookesland
03-02-2007, 15:51
i see what your saying but does that loophole apply to nations made after "End Slavery" was passed?
Quintessence of Dust
03-02-2007, 16:59
i see what your saying but does that loophole apply to nations made after "End Slavery" was passed?
Yes, because nations aren't created as UN members.
Cluichstan
05-02-2007, 15:12
No, it's not. End Slavery doesn't compel people to release those who are already slaves; and it doesn't prohibition ownership of persons, thereby allowing someone to acquire slaves anyway, so long as they're not bought.


Or keeping the offspring of current slaves as slaves as well.
Hirota
05-02-2007, 16:06
I'm pretty certain it was ruled the title had binding impact on the legislation, thus since "end slavery" was passed, slavery was ended.