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No Public Auto Weapons Bill

The Lefty Rockers
14-01-2007, 22:36
Okay, my bill is to make private ownership of all automatic weapons illegal. I have a few endorsements so far, but I am afraid that the bill was unclear. To clear things up, I'll say what the bill really meant here:

The bill would make the private ownership of all automatic weapons illegal, except for all government officials, military, or police. This would decrease the firepower of all criminals, terrorists, ect., and would give the government's of the united nations a significant advantage in making the world a better place.

This bill would not completely eliminate the ownership of guns, any sub-automatic rifle/pistol will be available for recreational hunting or self defense.


That's what I meant to say. Less of :mp5: , More of:fluffle: So please vote for my bill

-The Confederacy of the Lefty Rockers
UN member of The Air Academy Region
HotRodia
14-01-2007, 22:44
Howdy Lefty Rockers, and welcome to the UN!

A few tips to start you off right:

1. It's considered polite to post a copy of your proposal text.
2. It's considered polite to refrain from using smilies in your in-character posts.
3. Make sure to read the invaluable Rules for UN Proposals (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=420465).
Yelda
14-01-2007, 23:04
Here's the text:
No Public Auto Weapons

A resolution to tighten or relax gun control laws.


Category: Gun Control


Decision: Tighten


Proposed by: The Lefty Rockers

Description: This bill will outlaw the ownership and use of fully automatic weapons by anyone other than government officials or police.

The bill will allow for any sub-auto gun to be woned for recreational hunting, but without machine guns, the fire power of criminals would be significantly decreased
You're going to need to present some arguments in the text for why you're doing this, what benefits it would have, etc.. This is usually done in the preamble. Then you'll need to define automatic weapons. As it is, a nation could define automatic weapons as anything they wanted to. You'll also need to specify how the resolution will accomplish its goals. Are you banning future sales of these weapons? Are they to be confiscated, and by whom? Or are they to be turned in voluntarily?

I probably wouldn't support an outright ban on these weapons, but I think a program which offered incentives to individuals who would turn them over voluntarily might be a good idea. Also, you might consider banning the international trade in these weapons, with exclusions for governments, army and police.

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Ambassador
Allech-Atreus
15-01-2007, 01:17
We are vehemently opposed to such a proposal limiting the ownership of firearms. Granted, such a ban wouldn't have much effect, seeing as we mostly use lasers and projectile weapons are obsolete for us, but the principle is a dangerous.

Nonetheless, we welcome your delegation to the UN with a warm cup of soup and a pass to the Allech-Atreus Ambassador's Lounge (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a188/kuroutesshin/506_7.jpg), and a complementary Kazman Cigar.

Most courteously.
The Continent Arcanum
15-01-2007, 01:57
My superiors and I find this proposal to be unhelpful and badly worded - and, to boot, not particularly useful. Automatic weapons, as stated, are undefined, causing ambiguity and loopholes.

Further, in research performed by the Continent's statisticians, we found that removing machine guns and other weapons of that variety would not reduce crime by any great amount. Statistics provided show that between less than one percent and three percent of violent crimes are committed with such weapons, and even information that is urging control of "assault" and other firearm-style weapons say that less than nine percent of gun crimes involve "assault" weapons.

While nine percent is a measurable decrease, we feel the costs of implementing this proposal would far outweigh a mere nine percent decrease in gun crimes. Cost, of course, is a consideration to weigh heavily in gun control laws - can the law be implemented effectively and cost-effectively?

In this case, we feel the answer is no.

- Thaddeus Grellins
United Nations Advisor, UN Advisory Board of the Continent Arcanum
Altanar
15-01-2007, 19:13
We also would like to welcome you to the hallowed halls of the UN. We wish we could welcome your proposal as enthusiastically.....unfortunately, we cannot.

Gun control is something we practice, to an extent, in Altanar. Does that mean every nation wants to, or even should? We would say no, because not every nation is Altanar. Cultural and social values towards firearms differ greatly, and we feel that such values should be respected and that this is not an issue that merits international intervention.

Nevertheless, we encourage you to continue drafting legislation.

- Jaris Krytellin, Ambassador
David6
16-01-2007, 02:39
I concur with Atlantar. Welcome to the United Nations! Also, what kind of soup is that?
Allech-Atreus
16-01-2007, 03:38
Cat's blood and leeks. It's a traditional recipe.
Krioval
16-01-2007, 06:24
I concur with my colleagues with regard to the scope of this legislation. Krioval does not find it to be in the United Nations members' best interests to restrict firearm use on a universal level. However, if one would like to submit this proposal, it could best be strengthened by clearly defining the weapons to be banned, as the ambassador from Yelda has indicated.

~ Ambassador Jevo Telovar
David6
16-01-2007, 15:25
Welcome to the UN forums!

I'd just like you to consider this: if guns are banned, who will have the guns? The outlaws, right?

Cat's blood and leeks! My favorite- can I grab a bowl?
Cluichstan
16-01-2007, 16:49
That's what I meant to say. Less of :mp5: , More of:fluffle:

I think I just threw up in my mouth.

Respectfully,
Sheik Nadnerb bin Cluich
Cluichstani Ambassador to the UN
The Most Glorious Hack
17-01-2007, 06:14
I think I just threw up in my mouth.We can add that to the soup. Cat's blood and leeks sounds pretty nasty to begin with.


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Ambassador to the UN
The Federated Technocratic Oligarchy of the Most Glorious Hack