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This is the CURRENT draft:


Racial Discrimination

Category: International Security
Strength: Significant


DEFINING for the purpose of this resolution racial discrimination as an attitude of superiority of one race over another race and the act of discriminating against the ‘inferior’ race violently

SEEING minority groups in numerous nations being oppressed in many ways, including torture and death, which are direct infringements of the law, as a result of racial discrimination;

REALIZING that this problem will continue to grow if not stopped immediately and completely, and will greatly injure foreign affairs for many nations;

CONCERNED for the safety of all individuals, of every color and every race;

RECOGNIZING the need to take action and put down all threats of violent racial discrimination;

THEREFORE URGES:

a ) The creation of anti-racism Special Forces for each individual member nation of the United Nations

b ) The said Special Forces to be made up solely of a section of the member nation's own police force

c ) The said Special Forces to be funded half by the UN and half by the said nation

PROVIDING THAT the said Special Forces will search out and capture the violent racial discriminators, in any way, shape, or form, to be handed over to the said nation's courts and punished according to that nation’s ideals.

ALSO PROVIDING THAT after all threats of violent racial discrimination is gone, the said Special Forces will cease to exist, and its soldiers will be offered jobs in other parts of the military.

AND FINALLY URGES that education should take the place of force after the initial threat of violent racial discrimination has been quelled, by judgment of the individual in command of the forces, in order that racial discrimination shall never be a problem again.


Any comments?

Well, right off the top, I'd say the category. That has absolutely nothing to do with Social Justice. Those words that appear when you select the category are there for a reason. In the case of Social Justice, it's "A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare." Yours does neither.

But what category would it be?

International security?

Probably International Security as it deals with police budgets. However, I'd recommend quite a bit of drafting. It's rather... lean and soapboxy.

You mean I should make it longer? Or what? I am a bit new at this.

Is the only reason it was removed because of it being in the wrong category?

Is the only reason it was removed because of it being in the wrong category?That's reason enough.

OK, so now I should just make it longer, more convincing, etc.?

Something besides "Racism bad; give more cops" would be good, yes.

OK, thanks very much! I'll work on it.

Is the general idea OK? Is it against the rules to have the UN fund something?

How's this:

SEEING minority groups everywhere being oppressed in many ways, including torture and death;

REALIZING that this problem will continue to grow if not stopped immediately, and will greatly injure foreign affairs for every nation;

CONCERNED for the safety of all peoples, of every color and every race;

RECOGNIZING the need to take action;

THEREFORE URGES:

a) The creation of anti-racism Special Forces for each individual member nation of the United Nations

b) The said Special Forces to be funded by the UN, but made up solely of a section of the member nation's own police force

Perhaps having it directly funded by the UN somehow breaches the rule about the UN having armed forces. Perhaps if you set up a UN fund to assist less economically developed countries with the funding of their police forces.
You should also outline the sorts of duties they might have

Here it goes again:

Category: International Security
Strength: Strong

'SEEING minority groups everywhere being oppressed in many ways, including torture and death;

REALIZING that this problem will continue to grow if not stopped immediately, and will greatly injure foreign affairs for every nation;

CONCERNED for the safety of all peoples, of every color and every race;

RECOGNIZING the need to take action;

THEREFORE URGES:

a) The creation of anti-racism Special Forces for each individual member nation of the United Nations

b) The said Special Forces to be but made up solely of a section of the member nation's own police force

c) The said Special Forces to be funded partly by the member nation and partly by the U.N., with the exact amounts depending on how stable the member nation's economy is

PROVIDING THAT the said Special Forces will search out and capture the persecuting racists, in any way, shape, or form, to be handed over to the said nation's courts.'

Is this about ready for the UN?

It's only been a few hours. Have some patience...

My nation's government objects to the use of the word "everywhere" in the following clause:'SEEING minority groups everywhere being oppressed in many ways, including torture and death; I doubt whether we are the only nation represented here that would consider this to be an unjustified slur...

Alfred Devereux Sweynsson MD,
Ambassador to the UN
for
the Protectorate of the St Edmundan Antarctic
(and still required to wear this bloody penguin costume...)

would " in numerous nations' be better?

would " in numerous nations' be better?Yes.

Anything else?

I know, I know, I'm impatient. I'm just...like that

I'll give 'till tomorrow and then I'll submit it.

To start off, you need to have a little more patience. I'd hold off a bit longer. Wait until more people have had the chance to look over this. Besides, the weekends are always slow. Things will pick up on Monday.

Right then. With the CONCERNED clause, I think that you should change "Peoples" to "individuals". It's just a personal preference of mine.

Monday is so far away...

Come now, it's not that far away. It would be best to wait until Monday to submit this anyway. Weekends are a terrible time to submit proposals. Take it from someone who knows. I'm sure that there are other members here who would agree.

Category: International Security
Strength: Strong
Why Strong? Looks Mild, or at best Significant to me. Strength is not about how strongly you feel about the issue, it's about the effect it has. This doesn't have much of an effect on International Security, it just deals with certain types of abuse.
c) The said Special Forces to be funded partly by the member nation and partly by the U.N., with the exact amounts depending on how stable the member nation's economy is
A) the UN doesn't have any money
B) This treads on the "unequal treatment" or "optionality" clauses of the rules. UN proposals affect all UN nations equally, so you can't simply claim poverty to get additional funding.

PROVIDING THAT the said Special Forces will search out and capture the persecuting racists, in any way, shape, or form, to be handed over to the said nation's courts.'
... and? What are the courts going to do? Racism isn't illegal under UN law, and you've done nothing to define any illegality here. All you have is an enforcement branch, but they have no basis to enforce.

Monday may seem like a long way off, but this stands no chance of approval, much less passage, in its current form. If you don't take the time to craft it into something that will be acceptable, all your efforts are doomed to failure.

Take the time. Do it right.

Good point, I will wait until Monday and I will keep your thoughts in mind.

So I can't have the U.N. fund anything?

I guess he means you should lay down a clear definition of Racism. Maybe Racial discrimination is a better term since you can't control how people feel personally as racism implies.

How 'bout adding this at the beginning:

'DEFINING racism as an attitude of superiority of one race over another race and the act of discriminating against the ‘inferior’ race'

OOC: Spacerats, I suggest you join Reclamation (http://z15.invisionfree.com/reclamation) and post this there. You'll probably get more help there than here.

OOC: I can't believe I didn't think of that. Yes, you will get better, positive and more constructive help on Reclamation. Good idea, Paradica.

Thanks for that information, guys, now the draft is also in reclamation

The Elleltian Delegation would like to welcome the Delegation of Spacerats to the UN and to Reclamation.

We haven't looked over the third draft yet, or much else seeing as I had to be in New Stalingrad for an important state function. Our Great Leader Celebrated his 52nd Birthday and we typically are in attendance for the celebrations if invited.

I will look it over in Reclamation and give my opinions there, but from the looks of it we probably will vote against this measure. Ellelt has already neutralized racism in our country by a program of interbreeding creating a unique Elleltian people who lack large distinctions in eye and skin color, well except in Ziberia where criminals are sent, and remote nomadic tribes live...but I don't think anyone hates those nomadic tribes. There certainly hasn't been any violence against them since Tsar Alexander I invaded Ziberia 450 years ago.

Vladimir Khernynko
Elleltian Ambassador to the UN.

Well, really all that I am looking for at this stage is to get ANYwhere with my proposal; I'm not going for the gold yet. This is my first proposal, so I'm just experimenting.

Any comments?

DEFINING for the purpose of this resolution racial discrimination as an attitude of superiority of one race over another race and the act of discriminating against the ‘inferior’ race violently

SEEING minority groups in numerous nations being oppressed in many ways, including torture and death, which are direct infringements of the law, as a result of racial discrimination;

REALIZING that this problem will continue to grow if not stopped immediately and completely, and will greatly injure foreign affairs for many nations;

CONCERNED for the safety of all individuals, of every color and every race;

RECOGNIZING the need to take action and put down all threats of racial discrimination;

THEREFORE URGES:

a) The creation of anti-racism Special Forces for each individual member nation of the United Nations

b) The said Special Forces to be made up solely of a section of the member nation's own police force

c) The said Special Forces to be funded half by the UN and half by the said nation

PROVIDING THAT the said Special Forces will search out and capture the persecuting racial discriminators, in any way, shape, or form, to be handed over to the said nation's courts and punished according to that nation’s ideals.

ALSO PROVIDING THAT after all threats of violent racial discrimination is gone, the said Special Forces will cease to exist, and its soldiers will be offered jobs in other parts of the military.

AND FINALLY URGES that education should take the place of force after the initial threat of racial discrimination has been quelled, by judgment of the individual in command of the forces, in order that racial discrimination shall never be a problem again.

Don't create a new thread with each new draft. Edit your first post if you want to keep it current.

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I represent the government of the Spacerats and we wish to bring to your attention a proposal that we have submitted for consideration by U.N. delegates such as yourself. This proposal seeks to extinguish all forms of racial discrimination. For too long the U.N. has done nothing to quell the problem of racism. Well, that is about to change. I am writing to seek your support on this matter and hope you choose to endorse this proposal.

You can find this proposal by simply clicking HERE (http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=racial%20discrimination)



Many thanks for your time

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12187805&postcount=35

Although my humble suggestion would be this: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=397276

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No. As much as the Anti-Tax party hates spending the money of the citizens of Retired Werepenguins, I hate spending the money of the United Nations, especially since the United Nations doesn't have any money in the first place because it can't have any taxes by law. (I think that all UN expenses are paid by a 24 hour BINGO game but I could be mistaken. I really need to check my Stranger's Bar tab one of these days.)

PROVIDING THAT the said Special Forces will search out and capture all violent racial discriminators, in any way, shape, or form, to be handed over to the said nation's courts and punished according to that nation’s ideals.

Wow. So you want the said Special Forces to use absolutely anything, which includes using murder for hire, unwarranted searches, any form of torture to make prisoners give the names of violent racists, etc.? It sure is a good thing this conflicts with UN Resolution #26 "The Universal Bill of Rights".

The said Special Forces to be made up solely of a section of the member nation's own police force
and
its soldiers will be offered jobs in other parts of the military.

So they're taken from the police force, turned into soldiers, then offered jobs in the military?

Also, it would be nice if you included the name of your proposal in the title of your thread, instead of "Attention, All UN Delegates." It makes life easier for us, and frankly, advertising like that won't increase your support...

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No. As much as the Anti-Tax party hates spending the money of the citizens of Retired Werepenguins, I hate spending the money of the United Nations, especially since the United Nations doesn't have any money in the first place because it can't have any taxes by law. (I think that all UN expenses are paid by a 24 hour BINGO game but I could be mistaken. I really need to check my Stranger's Bar tab one of these days.)

What law says the NSUN can't levy taxes (or dues, fees, or whatever)? If the representative is referring to NSUNR #4, "UN Taxation Ban", he might want to check that resolution again to see exactly what it prohibits.

Lorelei M. Ahlmann
Ambassador-at-Large

Merged. Again.

Next time, I'll just delete the new threads. If you're having trouble seeing your old threads, adjust your settings to show older threads.

So we hire a bunch of oogbogian police to patrol non-oogbogian neighborhoods and we have extremely violent incidents with the extra police on the ground. How about we include a minority recruitment stipulation in this police force or it will create more problems than it helps. Also include a right for neighborhoods to participate in the minority recruitment. Police your own.

Also replace race with minority, not all discrimination is based on race, religion is a big factor as well.

Merged. Again.

Next time, I'll just delete the new threads. If you're having trouble seeing your old threads, adjust your settings to show older threads.

Or he can use the advanced search to find threads he's started.